Where can a person go to get away from political extremists and meet other people that don't want to play along with the left vs right shit flinging? Everywhere I look there are people getting up in arms about party politics and being hateful towards each other, it's exhausting. They are always trying to pull you to their side, and see people that do not want to partake in their fight and just want to mind their own business as somehow being worse than Satan Hitler. I just don't know where to go to get away from all this.
>>34549918OP I have never voted in my entire life even though my country has compulsory voting laws, I still refuse. We also have like 5 or 6 parties so the left vs right thing isn't as pronounced. Still I have a lot of people discriminate me for not being preoccupied with politics like they are. Just stay away from those types of people and find people like you they exist.
I lucked out with my friends because out of the 4 of us only 1 is very "politically minded", and he knows discussing politics with us is pointless. If you just keep your powerlevel hidden and don't argue than it is pretty easy to get along with people of almost every viewpoint because they assume not arguing = agreeing. Ive gotten along with commies,nazis, trannies, muslims, tradcaths, and atheists all because I dont argue with people. This comes with the symptom of women wanting nothing to do with me because I dont engage in that pointless bullshit.
>>34549918We (a whole, entire society) need to agree that difference in opinions exist and should be acknowledged, but we all want the same thing. Find the common ground to unite us as a nation such as desire for peace, right to protect ourselves / family, ability and desire to pursue happiness while being able to appreciate our differences without having to change someone's mind or fight it out. Be kind and love one another.
>>34549918Go back to pol
>>34549984This is such bullshit. I have nothing in common with leftists.
>>34549984The issue is that growing sects of society don't have a desire for peace, don't believe in a right to protect themselves and think that the pursuit of happiness means that other people are obligated to deliver happiness to them. That's why the common ground is gone, and it's probably not coming back until there's enough hardship to make people question their presumptions.
>>34549992i mean, that leftist believes gun rights are necessary for protecting yourself. that's already more common ground to begin with than 99% of them. ask them about what they like to shoot, they have an ak patch, so it's probably some Chinese sks clone, you can bitch about the price of 7.62 nowadays, etc.
>>34550219They literally think I deserve to be killed because I think trannies aren't actually the gender they say they are.
>>34550221on the Internet where people say retarded stuff to get upvotes. not in everyday life. in everyday life even kkk members will talk to black people that approach them civilly.
>>34550231I would never approach a leftist civilly. I make efforts to avoid them. It's not that we disagree on how to get to the same goal, it's that their goals are evil and have no place in a functioning civilization.
>>34550221They literally dont, and you are being a histrionic bad faith whiney baby. They want people to stop committing or threatening bodily violence to trannies. Look i am a leftist that thinks that trannies need their own category. Some idiot blue hairs don’t agree and think i am some kind of crypto fash. The gun lefty bros are more practical and either agree with me or agree to disagree. Acting like the left if a monolith only happens when you actually just want identity wars and want violence instead of common ground. If you want to be a shit lick who just loved hating trannies instead of just letting them be then you have problems with lefty gun bros. But they don’t want you dead unless you are a cop who is actively working as the boot of the authoritarian regime.
>>34549918I talk to people about what they want from life and how what political decisions made will affect this.When I talked to people who rabidly hold a view I just bring up the most raw data I can get and we discuss it.I have some issues with people from any political affiliation.The most recent one was with a great uncle, he's a car guy so we were talking electric vehicles. He got visible upset when I started talking about resource extraction and he started ranting about Michelle Obama's hands and about how she was actually a man.I paused for a bit, asked what that had to do with what we are talking about, and then left the family gathering without saying bye. My grandma was so annoyed.
>>34550262I saw the way they reacted to the murder of Charlie Kirk and I'm never going to forget it. They celebrated his death because of his normie conservative Christian views. Right-wing political commentators don't get much more moderate than Charlie, and they're glad that he's dead and they say so openly. I can only imagine what they'd like to do to me, since my views are less moderate than his in some ways at least.
>>34550273>a high profile political figure dies>some people celebrate saying he deserved it.Cmon anon, that's a trope that goes back to ancient times.It's retarded and shitty to say, and essentially all the people saying that garbage world never do anything themselves.Disregarding an entire political faction for that, well, your going to have to do that for any of them one the following gets big enough. Especially with the internet being a megaphone for retards.Also remember that that stuff is especially blasted and shared online to keep the populous from arguing about the real issues and how they are taken advantage of.
>>34549954I tend to get along with pretty much everybody too, probably because I don't affiliate with any political ideology so I don't get confrontational about anything they have to say, but it is still tiring that eventually a lot of people will start going off on these bravados about how the people of opposing political views are all degenerates and the root of all evil... I don't care what side you're on, seeing people spewing gratuitous hatred like that is completely unenjoyable for me, and it happens everywhere. Already started in this thread.
>>34550273>Right-wing political commentators don't get much more moderate than Charliethe moderateness of his views wasn't the problem, it was the way he always chose to put things.>I think it’s worth it. It’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God given rights. That’s a prudent deal. It is rationalThat's what you say for cheap heat. That's not something you say for understanding and compassion to bridge the gap. It doesn't matter how moderate you are if you don't have tact about the things people are sensitive about. Do you understand that?
>>34549918Just go outside and stay away from boomers and leftoids. The former are more likely to fall into cycles of clickbait on social media/Fox (and regurgitate headlines/slogans while having a meltdown), while the latter are generally far more intolerant of beliefs vs. actual behaviors. It's pretty difficult to find passively liberal spaces nowadays, since they are very willing to fall in line if just a few permanent-activist types come in and start policing everything.If you see people flaunting their beliefs in public, whether it's a maga hat or a pride flag, that's generally a cue to keep your distance. But the latter will tend to be especially insufferable, because they're more likely to insist you also fall in line to their demands rather than just listen to their unsolicited monologues.
>>34549918centrism is not enlightenment but i get what you are saying. you should be able to hang with people on all sides of the spectrum if you are as centrist as you say you are
>>34550921>they're more likely to insist you also fall in line to their demands rather than just listenice would like a word with you
>>34550831That doesn't sound inflammatory at all. "It's necessary but unfortunate" isn't wording that should cause you to feel incensed, so if there's trouble bridging the gap it's most certainly on the people who can't hear such a phrase without feeling insulted.
>>34550938I'm not claiming to be a centrist though, I'm saying that I do not even position myself anywhere in the spectrum. Saying that you do not align with either left or right is often translated as centrism by people that look at everything through the lens of left wing vs right wing politics, but that lens is exactly what I am saying that I want to get away from. These people insist that this is the only perspective that matters and that everybody else must look at the world the same way, that any other perspective is erroneous and even irresponsible or dangerous. This rigidity in thinking that "the things that matter to me are the objectively correct things to care about and to not care about them is unacceptable" is what tires me. I'm very much a mind-my-own-business kind of person, I don't go around telling people how they should live their lives, which is what extremists do.
>>34550831Not that guy, but>That's not something you say for understanding and compassion to bridge the gap.He went out of his way to say it's unfortunate. At some point, no level of tact is going to save you from becoming an enemy to people who just viscerally disagree with your value structure. Sure, he'd piss off a lot more people, and faster, by saying "I love dead kids, it's a fucking bonus for having guns, holy shit I just came thinking about it". But to ideologues who think the obvious and unavoidable solution to a moral travesty is to greatly restrict guns, any refusal to go along will be interpreted in the same way.>>34550941Notice I said "more likely", not "they're the only ones who do this".
>>34550831>He said such incendiary things as (normie conservative opinion)Leftism is incompatible with civilization.
>>34552204>Leftism is incompatible with civilization.if you're saying things like this, you simply don't care about reaching across the aisle, simple as
>>34552586But he's saying that in response to somebody who made it clear that they weren't interested in "reaching across the isle" in the first place. The quote he provided as an example of "cheap heat" was literally just a man stating his position. That makes it clear that he's not capable of being objective, and that it's the position itself that's causing him frustration, meaning he really is choosing to make himself incompatible with civil discourse.
>>34552586Correct, I don't want to reach across the aisle to people who literally want to kill me, or at minimum want to steal my money from my paychecks to fund things that they want and I don't. It is not possible to be a good person and believe these things, and since these things are core tenets of leftism, there are no leftists who are good people. The only thing I want is for them to have as little influence over my life as possible.
>>34552602>Correct, I don't want to reach across the aislethen don't post in a thread where the op is explicitly asking about how to manage that, genius>hey guys how do you keep the snow plowed at your house>hurrrr durrrr i live in Phoenix not a problem
>>34549918The easiest thing to do is touch grass
