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After 5 years she dumped me, twisted the way events happened, invalidated my actions, tried to portray me as a villain and directly tried to hurt me by attacking insecurities and weaknesses I had confided to her. I merely didn't accept being gaslit and upheld my personal limits, and that was enough for her to detonate.

I feel existentially rejected and I am in pain. How do I get over this?
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you were supposed to get her pregnant within the second year of relationship or move on
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>>34552959
Of course, married men with kids never get divorce raped at extremely high rates and their wives are always satisfied since they had kids

No. Having kinds with 99.99% of women will just compound the problem and leave you suicidal when they leave thinking they can do better

>you were supposed
Deflecting all blame to men, like always.
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>>34552971
for young/poor people, divorce ruins only the life of the woman, not the man. she will be a single mother for a long time if she leaves you while you only pay child support which is a fixed, non income dependent rate in most countries and only required to pay if you actually have an income and are not in education still. as for 50%, those 50% are typically for 50% of what you have earned during marriage. assets you amassed before marriage and after are excluded.

>Deflecting all blame to men, like always.
says the redditor manchild who has been living 5 years with a woman going on holidays and having pet babies instead of planning for a future
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>>34553022
>for young/poor people, divorce ruins only the life of the woman, not the man.
The level of gynocentrism, materialism and solipsism embedded in this post is incredible. You are 100% a woman

>planning for a future
Impossible with someone like you. Don't bring children into this world, please
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>>34553042
I am a guy and have two young sons. my wife also planned on having kids even later when she was in her 30s already. I went ahead, married her and made her pregnant. I am happy with my kids and despite her original objections (she wanted a perfect wedding instead of rushing things, make me spend more time with her parents and get their approval, start her career first), things worked out fine and she has a good job and is happy as a mother.

you sound like a larping incel who is not even the OP. if you are and the original story is true, I repeat: you are a manchild for not being able to take control of the relationship and wasting time like some schoolkid. I bet your ex is with an older man now and will get married within a year.
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>>34553070
>calling other men incels
>married and had kids with a career woman that didn't want to marry at first
>thinks one's own value as a man is reproducing with a woman

Ooof. Don't come crying when she inevitably leaves

Your type thinks you're above others for having a woman pump out some kids. You're not
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>>34553105
you wasted 5 years of your and someone else's life with nothing coming of it except some nice first memories (at the cost that your future relationships will not have many of those and you will most likely want to forget them along with your ex anyway). I have spent 10 years with my wife - if we divorce, so be it, I enjoyed the ride and I will always love my kids. I would gladly give them half of my possessions for starting a new life. you think you are better off because no woman will exploit you? what is the end game here? to become rich and get buried with your petty fortune?
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>>34553379
>you wasted 5 years of your and someone else's life
In your fundamentalist natalism point of view, which is a very narrow view to relationships and the human experience.

>if we divorce, so be it, I enjoyed the ride
Ok, so have I. What makes you think your purpose of having kids is superior to that of others? You're trying to grandstand here as the sole owner of purpose but you are out of your element.

You are not your money, your kids, your wife or your career. All of those can leave, be lost or be taken away at any moment. Your 'just put a baby in a woman, it solves everything' mindset is wrong and leads a lot of men to ruin. The shocking amount of divorced couples, wrecked men and children out there proves you wrong.

You are a gynocentric cretin and trying to invalidate the OP's lived experience.
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>>34553105
Dude, you should not believe the guy that said he has 2 sons and is married. Do you think he would be here calling others that if it was true? He is definitely an incel himself, and he is also brown... He is a well known brown incel here that calls everyone incels, he also calls others simps constantly, don't argue with him.
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>>34553022
>>34553070
>>34553379
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>>34553413
There is nothing more pathetic than a grown man calling other men incels. It's pick-me attitude playing into misandrist hands
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>>34553429
ok, incel
>>34553411
>All of those can leave, be lost or be taken away at any moment
well, OPs relationship was taken away. and he blames the girl. when he was the man in the house and had the job to step up and make decisions. if you think he is better off than me, then why has he spent 5 years with the girl in the first place? why does he feel sad about the breakup? the only stakes there were potential marriage and children. otherwise, 5 years or 10 or 15, it would not matter. people would just say, so be it and move on. but that is not how it works, every relationship is a preview/testrun of marriage/parenthood. all I am saying men should take chances, both with asking women out as well as doing the next step (which is the opposite of what blackpill incels tell you to do)
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>>34553464
>ok, incel
I'm not the guy you're talking to, but I probably have talked to you before, you're that brown little incel that calls others incels, nobody will ever take you seriously, lol

>>34553429
Don't mind that guy, he is brown and an incel, he does the same discourse and always derails the threads, the only explanation for him not to be banned is that mods are jeets.
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>>34553487
Figures it's the kind of people that get a kick out of trying to bring others down



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