How do you have fun with other people and build (romantic) relationships? 1. How do you hold a conversation for longer than like 5 minutes without resorting to water cooler conversation tier small talk. Whenever I'm out and about and I listen to other people have a conversation next to me it sounds so bizarre and alien. What they say is completely devoid of any meaning or any connection to the world around them, beyond some innate hard coded drive to make sounds with their mouths to be heard by other people. You could replace all the words with gibberish while keeping the same cadence and speech patterns and these conversations would remain functionally unchanged. The only success I've found is by making observations that I think are funny, or making people laugh in general, but that's far from consistent.2. The other problem is (physical) activities. Wtf are you supposed to do with other people and when? If I had it my way I would just be either at home, in the gym, or in nature 24/7. Pretty much all my hobbies are solitary. What do people usually do together? Do they just aimlessly walk around, eat, and occasionally partake in some inconsequential activity they pay a small fee for? How do I take charge and find something interesting to do?3.Where do you meet people? When you scroll through this board you keep seeing people talk about relationships, particularly guys that have girls show them interest. HOW??? The only times that happened to me was when I was in school and I never did anything about it and the only time I had sex was when I and the girl were both pretty drunk. Where do you go in your mid twenties when you want to meet new people?
>>34561412>How do you hold a conversation for longer than like 5 minutes without resorting to water cooler conversation tier small talkTalk about something you're genuinely interested in, something you know a lot about, or ideally both. Most conversations die in five minutes because people keep circling the same lifeless "water cooler" topics that nobody actually cares about. If you speak about something with real curiosity or passion, the conversation naturally grows branches. People respond to energy, depth, and specificity.You do not need to perform or become a comedian. Just bring something real into the conversation. A book you read, a strange historical event, a game mechanic you admire, a philosophy you disagree with, why old movies feel different from modern ones, why cities are built the way they are, why certain music feels timeless. Anything with substance gives the other person material to react to, question, challenge, or expand on.Good conversations are usually less about "communication skills" and more about having thoughts worth expressing.>The other problem is (physical) activities. Wtf are you supposed to do with other people and when?When? Whenever you and the other person are available. You can go hiking, head to the beach, cycle around the city, skate, walk through the park, have a picnic, grab something cheap to eat like ice cream or crepes, visit a bookstore, play pool, browse thrift shops, go to an arcade, watch a movie, explore a random neighborhood, sit in a café for hours talking about nonsense, or just wander around with no plan at all.>How do I take charge and find something interesting to do?You just say, "I want to do X. Let's go there quickly, let's go," or you can just lead the person along. They'll be unconscious of what's going on until they're standing in front of the ice cream man, lol.
>>34561428>Anything with substanceNot from my experience. Substance usually doesn't matter as much as how you say something. Conversely you could talk about things that don't matter for a long period of time as long as you talk to the other person like a child, or at least that's what I've noticed with the people around me.>You can go...like I said I have very niche and solitary hobbies, so anything outside of that is very much take it or leave it for me. My guess is that I just have to try things out for the sake of it and string the other person along at their expense, but to be honest I can't see myself asking a woman or anyone else out to go walk through the park, have a picnic, or visit a bookstore without them being put off by it. That's kind of what I meant by inconsequential and aimless activities. Is it all just set dressing to have different flavors of conversations while doing them? Does it all really just lead back to talking?
>>34561457Especially if you have a good conversation partner. I met this dude online and we just clicked and I was just picking random words from his sentences and making a sentence from that. It didn't matter what I said, I made sure to keep a positive vibe but that's about it. It was really fast back and forth. I don't know why I haven't been able to recreate that with anyone else.
>>34561457You do not want advice. Keep whining.
>>34561412This is the first time I noticed Keanu in that picture.
>>3456141290% of ALL conversations, even among intellectuals, is on the small-talk level - sports, gossip, last night's TV, etc. Meaningful conversations happen quietly and privately.
>>34561428What if we're low IQ and never do anything except bedrot at home so we have nothing interesting to say?
>>34561412you just can't build a solid, robust, lifelong relationship with a ran through woman OP, unless of course you're ready to be a sissy cuck that is. Your main aim should be filtering out for virgins and prioritizing only khhv women. Women who'd already been in relationships, even 1 mind you, are used up trash who should've played in their league(in case they were pumped n dumped) or should've not been mean to their exes if they were the ones who'd initiated the breakup.
