she was my best friend for years, everyone thought we were a couple and she had some really weird interactions with me (like always making me argue with my girlfriends until i broke up with them, or asking weird questions, inviting me over to sleep with her, holding hands), we fought over some stupid shit 2 years ago and last week she texted me "i really miss you, i love you" which i interpreted as her liking me, but she has a boyfriend and i confessed and she told me i was the greatest friend she ever had and how she will think about me for 50 years. we agreed to be friends and she told me she really missed me, also mutual friends we had told me that she kept talking about me when i wasn't in their friend group. is there ANY fucking way i can make her like me even more so she can be my girlfriend? i don't care if it's manipulative or if it takes years, i want her to be with me, she has said before we are like "twin souls" and also i'm better looking and taller than her boyfriend, but she likes what she describes as "incel scott pilgrim looking twinks"
>>34564919you're not the one who would be manipulating her, you're the one being manipulated. she knows what she's doing. she enjoys it.
Friendzone is real.Dont plan on dating her ever and stay her friend or stop orbiting. You being an orbit beta kills any advantage you have being tall
>>34564919She's manipulating you
>>34564919>is there ANY fucking way i can make her like me even more so she can be my girlfriend?No. There isn't. And the sooner you accept that, the happier you'll be.
>>34564919>inviting me over to sleep with her, holding handsAnd you didn't have sex? Award-winning fumble right there.
>>34564953this is the weird part, she says she's "asexual" and, to even masturbate, she has to look at stories that have some sort of "build up" to even feel something, she doesn't understand how people get horny by just looking at someone naked, and then she confessed that her fetish is... rape. one time she had me over to her place, we watched some tv and then i went to sleep on her sofa (next to her bed) and she kept doomscrolling so i asked her "hey why don't you sleep?" to which she replied "i'm scared you might rape me OP!". also there were other weird situations like both of us being on relationships (and about to break them) and she asking me "heyyy broo what would happen if we were single at the same time!?". also she's not really an emotional or physical person, the only one who she greeted with a kiss on the cheek was me, she used to hug me too. it's the first time she ever told me something like "i love you", last time i tried to do so (years ago) she replied "i fuck with you op <3"...
>>34564919Pretty sure she wants you already. She's keeping you as a back up.
>>34564919>is there a way I can become a good little cuckoldShe's used up. End of the story, unless of course your own dad was a sissy, spineless cuck who'd married a non-virgin hoe cuz if that's your heritage, then by all means proceed with the cuckdancing humiliation ritual
>>34564998and fuck all the cucks who say that it's ok to be first gen cuckold
>>34564919If you read your own thread, and reflected on it honestly, you would see that this girl enjoys the attention and validation you give her, but doesn't want to give anything back because otherwise she'd be in a relationship with you already. Therefore - she is a user who created a system where you are beholden to her, to give her attention and all the good stuff she wants, without her giving anything you actually want back. You are the support animal, you're akin to a very good puppy dog. She doesn't want to be sexual with you, you're a puppy dog. And even if she will - you're a puppy dog. She will never actually be with you.You are to be used and be satisfied and even thankful for being used. Women are archons and they control this universe, men are just the tools. You my friend are her tool. Choose a better life. Choose to not talk to her anymore and find others.
>>34565009I mean she really likes that manga chainsaw man where the protagonist literally becomes a dog for some woman and also is a friend with one girl who calls him a loser so it makes sense.
>>34565018Damn dude then that further corroborates what we were already thinking. She sees men as tools and is okay with using them as tools.You ever wondered why the protagonist of the manga chainsaw man has women berating him, he's constantly chasing after female attention, getting teased left right and center and used? It's because the entire manga is about male loneliness and the yearning to have a perfect girlfriend. I watched the movie with 2 other male friends and it made us all feel like loser virgins even though 2 of us have had gf's in the past and one of us currently has a gf but she's back in his home country. I'm sorry that it's like this. I wish I could make her change but I can't. Just be sure of one thing - if it wasn't you who slotted himself into the position of being the perfect use buddy and emotional masturbation tool, then she would find someone else who would do that for her. A smart man bails out when he sees that nothing is happening. Sit with yourself honestly and really honestly think. Don't think for me or for her, think for yourself. Think about how much you enjoy her, versus how much pain you feel knowing you can't have her. If the pain outweighs your enjoyment of her then you have to let her know that you have feelings for her and you want a relationship with her, and that if she doesn't want it you're going to take personal offense to that and won't be able to talk to her anymore. 1/2
2/2I know it sounds somewhat abrasive, maybe even a little desperate, but to be fair with you man, if she was upfront about her intentions I would be saying okay, just tell her that unfortunately YOU caught feelings and have to take a step back. But in this case dude, you didn't catch feelings on your own. She's saying I love you, she cares for you a lot. Or at least acts like it. IT IS RUDE and manipulative to behave romantically with someone who you're not willing to commit to and reciprocate feelings and effort for. So she's an actual bitch who's done and is currently doing something rude to you. Therefore I really think that you need to take a stance and basically, respectfully say - stop playing with my feelings, either get involved with me, or I have to stop talking to you because you're being way too loving with me and it's making me love you back and gives me a lot of pain. Yeah dude, frame it as her fault because it is. It takes 2 to tango. If a girl told me all that shit my cum would have to flow out her vagina that night or I'd cry myself to sleep over a missed opportunity, this girl does this to you regularly, it must feel awful. Cut it now.
>>34564985sounds pretty crazy to me, I don't know if being with her would work out well at all.The only plausible reasons for why you're not with her already are 1: as other anons mentioned, she's toying with you, or 2: she's trying to drop huge hints and you haven't given her any indication that you've noticed them. But I think you mentioned something about confessing, so it's most likely that she's just toying with you
>>34564985>>34565018Nothing positive can come from extended contact with this woman
>>34564928>Friendzone is real.Women date their friends all the time though
>>34564919>but she has a boyfriend and i confessed and she told me i was the greatest friend she ever had and how she will think about me for 50 yearsYou both sound like retards. She's clearly placating you with womanshit and you also sound like a narcissist. Just cut it loose and move on nigga.Pic related will be your scenario if you continue this shit.
>>34565219>Women get free meals from their friends all the time thoughftfy.
>>34565232>>34565301>>34565108>>34565101i mean i DO get attention from other women and i had previous girlfriends before, i've talked about this with girls from Uni, friends of friends and all of them told me that she absolutely likes me but i don't know anons, i guess i'll keep dating other women and going on with my life, it's fun hanging out with her so i don't mind it really, i just REALLY want her.i'm replying to everyone here but 4chan thinks my post is spam kek
>>34564919>making me argue with my girlfriends until I broke up with them"Why is my little cuck jester not dancing anymore? Go dump her so you can spend more time worshiping me.">inviting me over to sleep with herRationing false hope that you might get pussy from her one day. Cruel.>she told me I was the greatest friend she ever hadkek>she has said before we are like "twin souls"Bullshit cliche.>how can I make her be my girlfriend?That will never happen. You are an orbiter. You smother her with attention and affection while her back is getting blown out by another guy. Maybe don't let this whore talk you out of relationships and walk you around like a dog and you won't be so obsessed with her. Not even joking, you should get blood work done to make sure your test is within a healthy range...
>>34565219They call their boyfriend/husband friend but not the other way round
You're not even in a relationship with her and you are her cuckold. If you manage to get in a relationship with her, you will be her cuckold. Are you ok with that? If not, you should cut her off and forget about her. If you can't bring yourself to do that, you should at the very least set boundaries with her. Don't sleep in a bed with her just holding hands, that's sending the message that you're just like a brother to her. Make it clear to her that if you don't get to fuck her, there's no point in you being there.Your relationship has to be reciprocal. If she wouldn't do something for you, then don't do that for her. If you start seeing other girls, don't let her sabotage your relationship. Don't end it with another girl just out of the *hope* of getting with her. She would have to make a firm commitment to *you* for you to consider it.Because of your history with her and the habits you have developed, it will be hard for you to make changes and change the dynamics of the relationship. What you need is a chad wingman. You need a close male friend who is wise to the ways of women for you to confide in. You need to tell him everything that happens between you and her so you have a second opinion on what is actually happening, rather than just what you think is happening.If you assert yourself, she will probably respond with manipulative strategies which you will have to resist. If you are successful in resisting and she realises you have suddenly grown a pair of balls and are no longer falling for her tricks, you may see a side of her you have never seen before. She might become very angry with you and even attack you. Or she may burst into tears instead.What you may find is that once she learns she can no longer manipulate you, she will lose interest in continuing the relationship. There is the danger though that she might pull the ultimate uno reverse card and claim that you raped her.That is why it's probably best just to end it straight away.
>>34568146the thing i don't understand is why would she would see me as a cuck or an orbiter if i GET other women and DID hook up with multiple while being her friend. also, she's not your typical woman, she's really weird, all of our mutual friends who know her since she was a kid told me they never saw her cry or angry, she's like constantly apathical and multiple times i thought about her being a sociopath or something. and that "rape" thing could be true in the future, the fight we had was because in our friend group there was a guy who she didn't like so she wanted to tell everyone he raped a girl from the group, so i told him and she got really mad at me and blocked me everywhere, then she texted me for one year and some months things like i miss you and weird romantic memes which to i replied and she would reply with a troll face or stupid shit. also tweeted stuff like "when u are at a party and no one understood ur joke but u know he would and then say something even weirder and eventually rape and kill you and then himself!"i'm seriously thinking about going to therapy and ask a therapist what does he thinks about this situation because she's been my friend for half a decade and i could never understood her, she hates physical contact with everyone, even her boyfriend, the closest thing she did was laying her head on my shoulders and caressing my arm or some shit like that on our friend's car
Be very wary of a woman that will send a message saying>i really miss you, i love youto someone that isn't their partner.I'm not saying she's necessarily going to cheat, I'm saying that she's likely going to be equally warm with any other male friends that might arise.Would you be okay with your partner sending that message to someone else?
>>34568684NTA but it feeds her ego that you give up on other women to please her.she's disloyal anyway, why would you want her for a gf? she could do the same to you and look for backups and validation outside the relationship, emotionally cheat on you and tell other men "I love you" while you're still comitted to one another. worst of all, if she fucks up and get caught she will blame it all on you and say you forced the idea on her.
>>34568773>>34568699the only positive thing this girl brings to me is a friend group where i can meet a lot of women and go out with them so it's fun, so i don't know... i don't mind it, maybe in the future i won't like her anymore?
