Ex muslim, seeking advice from christian bros, which christian sect should i convert to? And whats your selling point? Can i practice your sect in secret? I doubt that ill be baptized soon so can i baptize myself? How to start worshipping? Thanks
>>34569230Stop worshipping and start doing, reaching god is just another reach for a guarantee that doesn't exist nobody is going to guarantee an outcome for you. You need to act and stop asking for permission from a fake ass god
>>34569269God is real
>>34569269I was asking for advice from christians in this thread though, your intervention is appreciated but it is not needed here
>>34569230oriental orthodoxy (preferably syriac)i'm assuming you're brown and a lot of orthodox christians are also brown (and exist in muslim countries)
>>34569277He is a fake gay retard smite me faggot u won't cause ur not real
>>34569230It's going to be a toss up between Catholicism and Orthodoxy, all the others are fake and gay.I'm not even going to pretend to understand how deep the divide really is since there are scholars and theologists arguing about it to this day and I don't want to give you a biased opinion so I'd recommend you look into it yourself.You can however look at what kinds of societies, feats, and achievements were brought on with either denomination as their backbone with Catholicism being the driver for western and Orthodoxy the driver for eastern European developments.
>>34569230>>34569373forgot to say: You can learn about it in secret and read through a study bible, but going to Church in either denomination is more or less mandatory if you're going to take it seriously. No, you can't baptize yourself, but the Catholic church recognizes Orthodox baptizional rites and vice versa. But like I said, there is no way around joining a Church.
>>34569230>Can i practice your sect in secret?No.>I doubt that ill be baptized soon so can i baptize myself? No.>How to start worshipping?In a church. Walk in at the start of a service, sit down, and watch what happens. Any given church will probably have some sort of "What's it all about?" for new believers; there will be posters.
>>34569230>which christian sect should i convert to?There's not one "correct" denomination, in my opinion. They're all limbs of body of Christ and versions of worship. Which one of them is good for you, depends on your character.For example, I am Catholic, because I value mysticism, on the one hand, and, on the other, the clarity of the tradition in the West. >Can i practice your sect in secret?I am not a theologian, but I know you have to go to church for the Eucharist, for example. So, I'd say, it is not possible. But it's better to be in a community, anyway. Try it out.
>>34569379I live in a society that will kill me for adopting the message of christ, i can not get baptized or go to church, its impossible
The Catholic Church is the True Church. It is the only church Jesus Christ founded. Jesus made St Peter his successor, the first pope. Eastern Orthodox see the Pope as just a "first among equals" but not a true head, just the "Western Patriarch." Catholics and Orthodox agree on the legitimacy of church councils. We also agree on Apostolic Succession. Apostolic succession means that Jesus gave his authority to his disciples (the apostles), who became the first Bishops, and pass that authority on to successive Bishops.Protestants reject all this, claiming the Bible alone as authority. This is a completely unworkable system, because the Bible is not clear and unambiguous like they claim. People can interpret the Bible differently. How do you decide whose interpretation is correct? You can't say, "The Bible," because the correct interpretation of the Bible is the very issue we are trying to resolve!Sola Scriptura (Bible Alone) is fine as a single individual, but as soon as you gather with other Christians in community, you run into practical problems. How do you baptise? Do you baptise infants, or wait until they reach the age of reason? How do you decide what rules to make? Sola Scriptura means everyone is equally qualified for making these decisions. In practice, what happens is that anyone who disagrees with his church, just goes and founds his own church. This makes unity between Christians impossible. This is not what Jesus wanted. When Jesus prayed, (not the Lord's prayer, that's the prayer he gave to us) he prayed that we would be one. He prayed for our unity. With Sola Scriptura, nothing is ever settled, everything is up for debate. Organisations cannot function like this. Someone has to have the final say. Someone has to make the hard decisions. In the Catholic Church, this is the role of the Pope, together with all the Bishops in the world (In church councils)
>>34571567Catholicism sounds like the way, unfortunately i can not baptise myself as of now, nor go to church, can i become a catholic for now till i cane safely get baptized and attend mass or is that impossible? I do not plan on being disowned for the next 5 years so i gotta play it safe
>>34571285The Catholic church recognises that some unbaptised people can still be saved through "baptism of desire." Meaning if you in all other ways truly believe and serve God, but for a good reason have not been baptised (but wanted to) you can be saved
>>34571959Well guess ill take the catholic pill, thanks <33 which bible translation should i read in english?
>>34571986First, if you have the possibility to go abroad even temporarily and start RCIA, and become a catechumen, even if not staying long enough to complete it, you should try doing that. And RSV Second Catholic Edition
>>34571986>which bible translation should i read in english?I recommend the Ronald Knox translation. It's the translation used on the Bible section of newadvent.org , so you can check it out for yourself right now if you want
>>34573269>>34572025Thanks
>>34569230>seeking advice from christian brosIt will be difficult, most people will recommend you a flawed denomination, which is not any different than being a Muslim.>And whats your selling point? Can i practice your sect in secret?I see, it seems that it is exactly what you want. You are trying to find a replacement, you should seek God, not to find a replacement for the religion you realized was false.>How to start worshipping?You worship in spirit and in truth. Just like Jesus commanded.>But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him.>God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.>John 4:23-24
oh let me guess you’re one of those ppl who were born into a Sunni Muslim family and thought putting a cross in your bio would look cool or smth or maybe you saw a few weak/fake hadiths, became atheist then turned christian for attention. but genuine question tho why tf did you go from "sunni" Islam to christianity?? It's like going from bad to worse. and the opposite is also true.you should just become Quranist instead, everything starts making way more sense after that.... oh wait yh you probably never even fucking opened the Quran in ur whole life... your family’s probably gonna find out any way and you will end up like any ex muslim. you are not different bruh
>>34574305I cant be muslim, even if islam was true. The trauma is too strong so do not bother.
>>34574305Shias claim the Hadith is weak whenever it shows something terrible about Islam, even if I recited from Sahih al Bukhari you would say it's weak, lmao
>>34574365Muslims love to practice taqiyaa, they are total hypocrits
>>34574325nigga why are you larping? what the hell does Islam have to do with your trauma? Stop blaming Islam for your trauma i don't really gaf about your trauma but this is so ridiculous bruh
>>34574379Lol i see it now, are you a muslimfag from the west who never grew up in the middle east and experienced true islam? Because i did. Its not fun
>>34574365i don't follow Sahih al-Bukhari or Shia or Sunni. I am a Quranist. I do not believe that Sahih al-Bukhari is the second most authentic book after the Quran as the Sunnis believe. Because it is just a random man who decided to collect كلام (sayings) about the Messenger of God 300–400 years after he died. and he decided to write everything he hears from random guys abt the prophet .and basically prophet Muhammad in his time forbade the companions from writing anything about him for fear that his words would be mixed with the Quran. also, the verses in the Quran always describe Muhammad as a messenger. Meaning a messenger carrying a message from GOD, not a message from HIMself. and the message of the messenger was the Quran, not the hadiths.I hope I made it clear to you. I think it makes sense now lol
>>34574433So you're a converter. Got it. Truly sad.
>>34574388umm... wdym "never grew up in the middle east and experienced true islam"?
>>34574466The middle east is infested with islam, and its shit
>>34574433Prayer is not demonstrated in the quran btw
>>34574487another proof that you have never read the Quran in your life at all lol
>>34574487better than Christianity desu
>>34574550>better than Christianity desu
>>34574564Muhammad with the boys, till the sun goes down, lol
>Ohh no, that's a weak Hadith, pbuh
>>34574564Its a weak hadith any way bruh
You can join the Catholic church with me. I know some great people who will help you. I have a great deacon who has been there for me during the worst times of my life and saved me.
>>34574564They came.
>>34569230Protestants are less evil than catholics. Catholics are less evil than orthodox.
>>34574812>Its a weak hadith any way bruhLMAO, I predicted someone would say this shit, have some Qur'an recitations >>34574582
>>34574582“Has eye”?
Why did muslims have to ruin this thread...
>>34575349that wont change the fact that its weak nigger try smth else
>>34575381>“Has eye”?I wasn't the one that made the image, but anyways, a grammar error doesn't change anything.>>34575497>that wont change the fact that its weak nigger try smth elseDoesn't matter. I still predicted, cry about it, nigger.
