I'm kinda flat, I don't like doing girly stuff, and I'm short. I get told I'm cute all the time but I know I'm not like a gorgeous tall model or anything so it feels like people are just being nice. I've tried working out to feel better about it but it just made me scrawnier.I just go to work and come home mostly, but there's a neighbor in my apartment building I share a wall with and we play songs for each other. We don't really talk, but I'll put a song on and when it finishes he'll put one on as a response and we kinda have conversations like that.I've been thinking about trying to talk to him, but 2 things have discouraged me:My brother says that guys see it as slutty for a girl to be the first to approach because it shows you're used to hanging around men enough not to be intimidated by them.And I feel like he wouldn't be impressed with me since I'm kind of a shrimpy nerd and I don't want to put myself out there just to get rejected.One of my friends keeps telling me to go talk to my neighbor guy though, and I'd like to if I could set my mind at ease on the other stuff.
Do NOT listen to normies, OP. Their advice is always retarded. There is absolutely no reason to go against thousands of years of established dating etiquette.Here is what you do:>find out when he comes back home>find a social excuse to be outside for an hour in that timeframe>when he sees you, make sure to smile warmly at him, smile when he talks to you, smile when he is smiling at you>play with your hair, have open body language>maybe even wink at him, when you see himDo NOT talk to him first, except a hello, how was your day. Let him initiate. If that doesn't work and you are cute, you also have a moral obligation to make yourself at least visible to other men, so you don't have to rely on random accidents like your neighbor being an eligible bachelor. Same principle. General open body language, open to the room. Smile as your way of saying "come talk to me".Normies always give retarded advice and think you can just go against thousands of years of tradition with no consequence.
I'm cracking up envisioning a scenario where this dude think he's engaged in a sound war with a neighbour who keeps blasting loud music through the wall, but you have construed this as flirting and are now cringe butterflyposting about it on 4chan.>I know, I'll play that bitch some Gizzard>Fuck, that didn't workJokes aside, yes, go talk to your neighbour. You could be run over by a bus tomorrow. No man on God's green earth is going to think you're a slut for approaching them.
>>34574149>Do NOT talk to him firstShit advice there's no reason why she shouldn't
>I feel like he wouldn't be impressed with me since I'm kind of a shrimpy nerd and I don't want to put myself out there just to get rejected.If you aren't fat or badly facially dysgenic, it's fairly unlikely that your looks will be an issue unless your neighbour is exceptionally attractive himself.I can't speak for all men, but for me it's more of a binary thing than I think it is for women. Either a woman is attractive enough, or she isn't. If we discount obese women, I'd say about 70% my own age meet my standards.Blur your face and post a pic, we'll tell you straight away.
>>34574149your advice is normie advice, the sort of thing a 14 year old normie girl would suggest.
>>34574138Talk to him and use the music as a conversation starter
Talk to him tonight please my god im so lonely
>>34574228Redpill for women
>>34574138>My brother says that guys see it as slutty for a girl to be the first to approach because it shows you're used to hanging around men enough not to be intimidated by themI get what your brother is saying and somewhat agree but not completely. If a girl were to aggressively pursue me, yeah, that would put me off. However, I don't see any harm in talking to him. I would see it as endearing if a girl started a conversation with me. You can even say something like, "if you ever want to talk more, let me know". That will put the obligation to talk to you on him and if he is interested, he will initiate again.
>>34574138>My brother says that guys see it as slutty for a girl to be the first to approach because it shows you're used to hanging around men enough not to be intimidated by themAre you guys brown?It's the exact same as it is for women. When she's your type, awesome yes let's go out. When she's not your type, uh sorry but no thank you