>>34582718
I know what you mean. I don't mind it if it's a personal thing that the person keeps to themselves, I actually tend to sympathize with the person in that case, but I don't like seeing it advertised everywhere, specially on those lgbt parades and such, that are usually quite immoral.
Unfortunately best we can do I guess is to just try and ignore it. Do not partake or engage in discussions. Saying anything just fills people with some sort of zeal. Best not to give them what they want in that aspect.
Also try to be with friends that share your view on things

>>34582718
Red states and countries.

>>34582749
Thanks for replying, very much.
>try to be with friends that share your view on things
Well, I did, but they were too weak and just converted and are either supportive of it or are just one of them. I really had to cut ties with them completely. It's not like I hate them, but they're hard supportive to the point I can't stand it anymore.

>>34582718
Just don't become a fag. Just let them be with them; what they do doesn't have a hinge on what you do. Maybe make friends at a gym, or, in a combat sport gym.

>>34582757
Np man, like I said, I know how it is, including the friend part.

I find that, when it comes to being with people who support it (like your friends, in this case), it's alright if they are chill with it, i.e. they don't go out of their way to show everyone how supportive they are and all, but I don't like people being too vocal about it, hitting their chest and publicly claiming they are all for it, posting rainbow flags and shit. It just smells like hypocrisy and people wanting to signalize virtue, rather than being something genuine.
This mindless pursuit of some people in supporting trends is annoying, it's like people don't have their own opinions, they HAVE to follow the trend of what is right or not, or they get ostracized by others. In my experience, it's not something they really agree in most cases, they just support it either out of fear, or because they believe this will grant them brownie points.

In any case, best wishes, OP. Don't give up on making friendships, and don't let this whole thing sour your days. Just try to stay out of it as much as you can.

>>34582845
I really liked every single word reading you reply,

I understand what you're trying to tell me and all. It's just like you said, they support it because it's trendy or they're expecting something to happen, which also what happened with my friends who I *thought* they didn't clash with my values, but turned out, they wanted to do it and follow it because it's getting normalized, even though it morally wrong. I mean if they don't see it like it, then fine, but why is it neccessary to publicly state that you're one of them or imply that you are? Literally just makes me hate the whole idea of it more and more.

And this being a trend isn't any better. Everywhere I go in whatever community it is, they MUST include their delusions in it, whether from their weird gender pronouns thing or sexualities, like they try their hardest to push it while they can as possible. I can't enjoy my favorite media and most of the people following it are just putting random non-sense into it. Can't I have a normal person to discuss about something that actually needs to be discussed without those things?

Well, anyway, I'm not giving up, in fact, I'm glad they have showed me their true colors, but it is what it is. Thank you for your inspirational speech, and I hope the best for us.

do you all live in Portland or San Francisco or something? I'm in a college club that has 4 or 5 trans and
>being too vocal about it, hitting their chest and publicly claiming they are all for it, posting rainbow flags and shit.
never comes up. The only time anything gay or trans comes up is if someone new joins and the trans say their pronouns. They're mostly quiet weird nerds and I never hear militant arguments from them

The mood is shifting when it comes to all protected minorities.
I think society at large is becoming sick of a paradigm where an outgroup insists that they're just people and should be treated normally, and then when people ask frank questions of them they flip out, claim they're being oppressed and demand exceptional treatment.
I'm beginning to suspect even they realise that affirmative action, ramming rainbow shit into places it has no business has a generally deleterious effect on their movement, and just gives everyone gay fatigue.
I felt the way OP described in 2016, but here in 2026 I think people think you should fuck who you want to fuck and dress how you want to dress, but should generally shut the fuck up about it.
Even a significant proportion of trannies seem to be quietly realising they were the victims of a temporary fad.

>>34582718
Yeah, same. While you do understand the significance of why they do that, it just gets so tiring. I think that is why there is a resurgence of homophobia.

>>34583822
The fact they're trying SO hard just to fit in is really sad. That's why I'm not into that shit, and on top of that it's morally wrong.
They be saying it was found in nature so it's fine to do it, literally the worst thing someone can follow as a fact.

>>34582718
Building community takes time and effort, you've to sieve people. It's The same reason men tank after a divorce because of all the life energy spent on trying to get one and take care of her. Same is true for friendships. But it is done with the hope that the time and energy spent on making such partners and friends pays off in improving your life.
I agree with you. I don't like the way lgbtq is accepted so easily. Many are in that category be ause of mental illness, poor family relations, lack of a patriarch or a matriarch and its society's way of okaying this "thing" so that they don't have to take responsibility.
You're right to feel the way you do. Only hang out as much as required.
But you also need to not care about what people do, because people do stupid shit all the time and you can't go crazy because of them. You are not personally liable for their retardness so relax, no need to push them, don't get worked up. Just spend that energy finding the right people.
And if you're young, remember, just because they're anti lgbtq doesn't mean they're good or interesting people. You need to ensure your connections also improve your life in a meaningful way other than just being anti lgbtq. Yes you're anti lgbtq, but you also have a whole life other than that. That is something you should realise for yourself so you utilise you're energy correctly and see that others aren't a drain on you

>>34584298
I agree with you completely. Even if they were anti lgbtq, it doesn't mean that they WILL be good or interesting people, I totally understand that part, but the problem is that, even if I found one that is anti lgbtq, they'd be really hard to find, which makes finding people too specific for me and literally impossible in that case.
>you also need to not care about what people do
I also understand this completely, I did ignore a lot of things in people, but lgbtq is really a different story where almost everyone I see or find are from lgbtq, so it's really hard to ignore when they act and popularized it more and more.
>You need to ensure your connections also improve your life in a meaningful way other than just being anti lgbtq.
This is my favorite part, which is beautiful from you saying that. Honestly most of my past friends (excluding the lgbtq part) weren't actually improving my life in any meaningful way, so it's great to point it out.
Thank you for your reply, appreciate it!

>>34583822
>Even a significant proportion of trannies seem to be quietly realising they were the victims of a temporary fad.
the vast majority of trannys never had any interest in any of it

it was like Latin X, it was white women on the Internet pretending to make up a thing to get mad about