I feel like my parents are forcing me to go to college, they won't support any other way.I feel like I will have a better chance becoming a man by cutting them out and starting by myself alone. I don't know many skills. I feel like being completely independent will force me to learn. I feel like having a cushy apartment and car all paid for by daddy will continue to make my life useless.I don't feel like I can become a real man in college.age 21
>>34583150Go independent OP. I lived with my family until I was 24 and then switched countries. Learned to survive and look out for myself and also socialize with people. I realized alot of my issues came from what my parents would think about me.
>>34583150I sort of agree with >>34583153 in the sense that parental pressure and demands can stifle your growth. It's not their intention obviously, but sometimes it happens. But it's probably best if you prepare yourself first. Find a job to provide for yourself, and try to develop your skills. The job should also provide you with some both life and laboral experience.Also, keep in mind that college isn't necessarily bad. It can be fun and interesting if you have something you really enjoy studying. It can give you some useful skills and allow for networking, which can be very useful.
>>34583179Liberal arts student. My biggest fear is that I'll end up like one of these people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2Y_swmkPkE
you sound retarded. everything is fucking expensive nowadays. the fact that you have family willing to pay for EVERYTHING while you go to college is a golden ticket. all that "becoming a man" shit is gonna crumble fast when youre working 2 jobs just to afford rent and groceries.go to college in some far away place where you cant rely on your parents to do your laundry and other dumb shit
>>34583534I want to kill fuckers like you.>EVERYTHING IS FREAKIN HANDED TO YOU YOU SHOULD BE GRATEFUL!Yeah and for what? For my lower middle class parents to pay thousands on ~opportunity~? This is the crux of what Im asking, should I be controlled by some people who don't know they're sending me to my doom? Fuck you
>>34583546you are a child. they are doing that for you because they know firsthand how unforgiving the adult world is. you do not realize how wonderful of an opportunity this is because they spoiled you. you are right in that you are not a real man because you still think life is playing legos instead of taking responsibility for your own future.
>>34584804Imagine still paying for college to pay for anti-white academics while your degree means nothing in the age of AI and cheap imported labour. Millennials will never learn, lol.
it's not an either or independence now + 2 years of community colleges with 4.0 GPA + now you're poor so your last 2 years of state university will be like $2500/semester after fafsa = independence and debt free degree
>>34583150Get into a real trade, OP, then move to South America and practice it there. Everything is so half assed there you'd be no.1 in your field within a year. All losers that cry about trades ruining your body leave out that those are all low-skill alcoholic workers in their 40s that never learnt anything besides the basics.
>>34583150You're smart enough to realize that privilege can make you soft, but not smart enough as to actually learn how to toughen up while taking hold of that privilege so your only solution is to run away from it all and become a basic ass person because "oohh but then no one can ever tell me dad helped I did it all by myself please clap". I don't like entitled people but you're cutting potential away from your life, something that your parents spent years building up to because of your sense of pride. Yeah anon leave it all and learn that life is harsh no one cares if you're shooting yourself in the foot. And you didn't understand what >>34583534 meant but they're right, you could find some compromise between what your parents are willing to give and what you want to do to build yourself up.
>>34583150If it's paid for, do college.If you have an IQ of at least 125, do college.If you're extremely well adjusted socially, do college.Otherwise, it sounds like you're better off finding your own path. College sets dumb and midwit people up for failure. It teaches all sorts of standardizations to life that just aren't real. The reason I mentioned high IQ people is they're the ones to figure out when their professors had it wrong. The socially well adjusted will succeed through networking and bullshittery. If it's paid for by someone else, obviously it's worth it. Otherwise, it's probably not worth trading debt and four years of your life for a slip of paper that convinces normies you're better than them.
>>34583179Earlier in life you learn to say no to your parents, the better.I'm not talking a teenager girl running away with some old guy, or a kid doing drugs, but your judgement is better than theirs for what to do with your life and you prioritize your own well-being more than they actually do, even they think they have the best intention.I didn't learn to tell my parents to fuck off until my 30's and it really screwed up my life. Basically feels like I lost a decade and wasn't truly an adult until I stopped letting them push me around.