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I'm on dating apps.
I'm 30 now.
I lost 20kg.
I'm getting people now.
I want to let you know that once you get one, you get another, then another, and you learn. Every girl is a new lesson and learning opportunity. I have dates now. I have more rizz. I'm more comfortable touching girls and offering them to touch. I don't have as much anxiety or at all. I see them as people. The upward spiral is real. My life isn't worth shit without girls.
I enjoy this so much.
It's all looksmaxxing + understanding how to put the good photos on and the good honest description.
Do the dating apps, everything else is a distraction. Going out is good for getting rid of social anxiety and primal fears and to trust strangers more. But once you have that - dating apps are the real deal. Seriously. I am a Jew but this is not a paid ad (most Jewish thing ever said), with a lot of effort - apps work. I can't believe I didn't do this before.
Even hambeasts are making me happy. I get to fondle massive boobs now. I'm working through my mommy issues one nipple suck and armpit cuddle and face sit and creampie at a time.
I'm telling you guys, to those of you so stunted that you can't even go out - go to events from meetup, do not expect girls. Then when you got rid of it or just for those who don't have this anxiety - dating apps for women opportunities. The more opportunities you have - the better you feel. Feel free to ask me questions.
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IRAQ LOBSTER
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>>34585420
>Even hambeasts are making me happy.

Yeah, of course dating apps work then. If thats your standard. ANd hate to rain on your parade, but of course you have no anxiety around those .Thing is, the women you can get on dating apps are a night and day difference compared to what you can score IRL. Also imagien putting in all that effort to hang out with fatties.Not everyone is up for taht humiliation ritual.
And lastly, meeting app chicks while not doing much with your life other than that is still a fairly hollow existence.
Good for you and enjoy the upward spiral, but for most guys dating apps are just a trap.
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>>34585494
Thanks dude. Indeed any upward spiral is good for me, I really need love in my life I live alone, have no family in a foreign country, was cheated on hard by my ex who I moved countries for, and love is good for me. And it's not like the effort is wasted and my life doesn't improve, the effort and the women complement the improvement and I start to feel "well I got this chick, surely I can get this other chick" and my anxiety around girls who are hotter and hotter starts to die. So in general for very little effort I get a lot of reward. But the trap is that to get to this point, I had to have both an ego and anxiety death. I no longer get phased by rejection as much as before. Mainly because I know "a new one will come", this alone has made my mindset so much healthier in all areas of life, because beforehand I had severe oneitis with every girl I met, and keeping it a buck fitty and only doing irl meant I invested a lot in girls who were actually not interested and I've only discovered this way later because I had a huge anxiety around asking girls out irl. Dating apps are like training wheels for niggers like me who didn't learn how to be normal in highschool and get girls irl. Now in a roundabout way I'm learning how to escalate touches, how to read body language, I learn the COMFORTABLE FEELING around touch and around making your friendship with a girl turn into something physical, not even in a sexual way but like, if I really like my friend and she's single and I'm single and we're having a good time, I understand just how a hug or a cuddle can feel so nice, without having to escalate into a huge boner that I have to satisfy.And this improves my performance with already existing female friends of mine - I'm just a better person overall able to get closer to other women.
If you feel like a robot - I really recommend dating apps as a means to becoming more comfortable with loving others. And it will in turn make you love yourself more, way more.

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So don't listen to the naysayers, let yourself go on the apps, we're all robots in need of freedom from our own fucking avoidant cycles and isolation and romantic inaptitude and feelings of lack of self worth. If you're really down in the dumps, you have nothing to lose. Human connection is the number 1 thing that makes me feel like I want to live. It is a cure to loneliness and therefore to depression. So many of us are beautiful people, ruined only by our traumas, and because of those traumas we feel invisible, unseen, not worth it, and it's a vicious cycle. I've never had suicidal thoughts, but the last couple of months until March (when I reinstalled the apps) were really difficult, and I felt like just killing myself not because of anger, I'm too nice for that. It was an understanding that I've reached this point - alone, inexperienced, in a foreign land, with no love, and no guts to go and get it because of a HARD case of learned helplessness. So yeah, options are your solution, and you get options through this shitty little device you call your phone. I'm not advocating this for normal people, but for the romantically inept men like me who need training. At 30, I'm doing my training. And it's fantastic. I hope I don't catch an std, I'll be careful, and at the same time I'm so thankful for the benefits. Try it my friends and ask me for advice, I can share more
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>>34585420
>with a lot of effort, you can be a manwhore and spend your life chasing whores
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>>34585971
And it pays off in waaay more ways than just sex.

>With zero effort, nothing ever happens and you spend your life doing nothing
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You're that muttish guy who lives in the Netherlands aren't you
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>>34585420
you're a 30 year old man shooting fish in a drying up pond.
Women's looks don't last, they know that.
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>>34585420
>Every girl is a new lesson and learning opportunity. I have dates now. I have more rizz. I'm more comfortable touching girls and offering them to touch. I don't have as much anxiety or at all. I see them as people. The upward spiral is real. My life isn't worth shit without girls.
>I enjoy this so much.
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>>34585420
OP is a chad, both inside and out



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