My friend often tells me that he wants to be a landlord and I can hardly contain my disgust each time he brings it upHow do I tell him that landlords should be hanged? Or am I in the wrong here?
>>34586687You are in the wrong here.
>>34586687Ignore this bootlicker >>34586691. I think you should reference the Maoist purges, not necessarily in a supportive way, but just like:>Bro, did you know in China they killed hundreds of thousands or even millions of landlords? Their tenants would bury them alive, strangle them, dismember them, or just bust out the firing squad.Point is just to put the idea in his head that there's a lot of rage against landlords.
>>34586687>>34586769>Prefers being homeless on the street while you save up for a down payment on your houseFucking retards, both of you.
>>34586687Just let him? Unless he has real money already or inherits or whatever, hes just goingn to be the banks jannie. Not one of his buildings will be owned by him, but if one of his tenats ever defaults the diffrence comes out of his own pockets or his down payment plus taxes plus tips is forfeit.
I think you lack basic human empathy and have drank too much of the ideological kool-aid if you believe that renting out property warrants death. I personally have gotten fucked by some landlords in the past but it doesnt make me wish death upon every single one of them. My coworker rents out his spare house to an old ukranian couple for less than $500 a month, do you think he deserves to die for that?
it is the logical step in this dystopian capitalist societyguaranteed you'd buy more than one property if you had the money, stfu OP
>>34586687>Or am I in the wrong here?Yes, you are in the wrong, landlords are nice people generally. They are willing to rent you a fucking house, how is that bad?>>34586769You're a loser. Imagine wanting to kill someone that worked their entire life to buy a house and offer something important to other people in exchange of a bit of money.
>>34586944>I think you lack basic human empathyTrue, all of these communists/socialists are psychos. They think it's normal to wish death upon other people. They're just jealous losers.
>>34586687Of course you are!
>>34587028> They are willing to buy up all the property in a region, price gouge rent much higher than a mortgage payment would normally be, and then eventually resell the home at an inflated speculative priceftfy
>>34587133And because some of them do bad practices they all deserve to die? Including people who just rent out a single room of their house? You can say I am nitpicking but you are the one advocating for the deaths of others.
>>34586687I think owning property and renting it isn't bad in and on itself, but there are lots of landlords who are a bunch of scrotes.Like others have said, in some cases, it's better than saving for 10~20 years to buy a house. Some people just prefer to rent rather than buying, too.Also from the landlord's perspective, it is kind of chill, but at the same time not that much, since you'll have to administrate your properties, talk to the tenants, get shit fixed, deal with legal stuff from time to time, etc., so I get why your friend wants (or thinks he wants) that.
>>34587172In China they (usually) only killed land parasites if the majority of their income was derived from exploiting their tenants, so someone renting a single room likely wouldn't qualify as a "landlord."
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>>34587034You have to admit that rent-seeking on the current scale is an enormous problem for the western economy and society.Early economists like Adam Smith have all drescribed how any economy can go bust from a whole lot of factual NEETs creating costs for productive members of society. Other than actual NEETs, landlords don't simply recieve handouts, but can actively increase the sum they squeeze out at their leisure, and enhance it even more by actively engaging in society damaging behaviours such as blocking new builds. the costs caused by greedy landlords then create presusre on wages which people would otherwise be happy with, and deny funds to consumers they could spend on actual products, generating profits for actual productive companies instead of paying into some guys Steam account.Landlording is basically a cheatcode to sell a good while actually not producing anything. And like any cheater landlords makes the game unplayable for everyone else. Blaming it on individual landlords is not just, but it is unfortunately human nature. People have to realize that we suffer from a systemic probelm, an dthe fact that proponents of capitalism always defend landlords is one of the biggest footbullets they engage in. Baseline is that landlords demand shuge sums while actually not contributing anything and aren't even available as potential labour (which NEETs are, in a pinch). You can't just allow a select group of people to skirt the basic rules of a functional society and for the rest to just wave it off.Capitalist or communist or whatever - ist: Someone who doesn't contribute anything cannot be entitled to being paid beyond a handout guaranteeing existence minimum.
>>34587483This is retarded because the system gives people freedom to rent out property. If the system allows a way to make money then people will do it. It's also doubly retarded because rent prices follow the laws of supply and demand. If the prices go up too much then tenants go homeless and the landlord doesn't make money.Blaming landlords is what you do if you don't understand economics or anything at all.
>>34587506>This is retarded because the system gives people freedom to rent out propertySo the fault in the system justifies itself? Obviously taht freedom needs to be curtailed, and a lot of functional societies have done thus. The need to keep rent-seeking behaviours in check has been expounded on by countless economists and rulers, starting with Adam Smith, ending with Xi of China who has redicrected investments form real estate into productive industry by collapsing the real estate market.>If the prices go up too much then tenants go homeless and the landlord doesn't make money.Nice neoliberal phantasy. In reality, living space is both an oimivable good and an absolute necessity to live. Before the landlord feels any effects whatsoever, people will simply reduce their consumption to pump more money into rent, which means the landlord is effectively stealing from productive companies.If you seriously believe that homelssness is considered viable alternative to paying inflated rents by any sane person, you need ot be put in a straitjacket and have your schizophrenia treated.>rent prices follow the laws of supply and demandUnfortunately, landlord companies have already accrued so much money that they can lobby to artificially pump demand through mas simmigration and reduce supply through blocking new build projects. >Blaming landlords Too stupid to understand the term "systemic issue", how sad. I actually don't blame individual landlords - who wouldn't like to be aluxury neet? I'm blaming a government that does not take the necessary steps to fix the issue by removing the opportunity.
>>34586687you are in the wrong here
>>34586687It depends on his goals, how he plans to go about it.Being a landlord in and of itself isn't wrong, but being a bad one that takes advantage of others is.
>>34586687Real estate is always a good investment. You fell for retarded lefty memes. Maoist China was more of a dystopian hellhole than "capitalist" society can ever hope to be.Or you are poor I guess.Either way, tell him that so he can have less retarded and impressionable friends.
>>34587483>You have to admit that rent-seeking on the current scale is an enormous problem for the western economy and society.No. I don't have to admit to anything.>Baseline is that landlords demand shuge sums while actually not contributing anything>not contributing anything>not contributing anythingThe house is theirs, they can do whatever they want with it. Cry about it.
>>34588046I agree with this. People hate landlords because 9 times out of 10 they are the worst human beings on planet earth
you are a fucking retarded bitch who doesnt understand economics or finance and you should never give your opinion to anyone for any reason unless you are going to put in the work to read books and understand how the world works
>>34588046yeah, thisI charge reasonably according to the acquisitive power of the area, don't gentrify, and treat people good as long as they're good people to the other tenants.
>>34588084>The house is theirsRarely. In most cases, its the Banks house whcih they merely manage until some point in the distant future.>Cry about it.I'm a landlord myself you utter dumbass. So know that you are bending down and kissing my boots maybe you can listen. I don't want to lose my sweet do-nothing rentbux I generate from inherited real estate just because retards refuse to regulate an obviously dysfunctional system until people simply chimp out and I get roped. And me not being a cunt to my renters unfortunately does fuck all to prevent that when the system itself is fucked. kys
I never understood landlord hate. Its some insanely childish shit. Most of you are getting fucked 10 times harder by insurance and healthcare and loans and fuck the entire economy is fucking you harder than the land lord is. But you hate him because he is man with a face and not an abstract entity.I am completely neutral to my landlord. He fixes shit that needs fixing. I take care of shit and rarely call him. He is making some money off of me. I am gladly paying him rather than throw all my money into a mortgage when I will probably be moving in a few years. Its mutually beneficial for all involved. Meanwhile I am getting SKULL FUCKED by my health insurance company and there is nothing mutual about it.
>>34588223Your problem seems to be that you inherited your properties. If you had earned the money and bought the shit with your blood sweat and tears you would not call it "neet bux" or whatever. You are just a classic guilty motivated trust fund socialist. The most pathetic and lowly of all creatures on this earth other than junkies
>>34588224>I never understood landlord hate. Its some insanely childish shit. Most of you are getting fucked 10 times harder by insurance and healthcare and loans and fuck the entire economy is fucking you harder than the land lord is. But you hate him because he is man with a face and not an abstract entity.No, I hate all of those other things too. And you'd be objectively better off with a mortgage. You sound cucked.
>>34588228>if you had earned the money and bought the shit with your blood sweat and tearsHate to tell you bub, but almost no one "earns" several million € with their "blood sweat and tears". Theres exactly two scenarios as to how someone gets into landlording, which is either a bank loan or an inheritance.
>>34588237Not true at all. Lots of people buy houses with money they earned. Also the money you inherited was earned and saved up by someone.
>>34588239>buy houses with money they earnedAgain, the Bank loaning you a forty year mortgage doesn't count. >Also the money you inherited was earned and saved up by someone.Yes, made through connections allowing my family to engage in certain businesses that are closed off unless you have said connections. Which also allowed my to add my own money to the pile regardless of rent income.Thing is, its plebs liek you who believe tha wageslaving for 40 years pays off lmao while I have peers that got bought into a prestigious univeristy by their parents, worked a few years for a major bank and are now set for life.While you are railing against da cooomies, I am railing against the retards who think it is a good idea to slap the carrot away from the stick and make it next to impossible to obtain housing as a regular Joe. That is going to bite ALL of us harder in the ass than anything taht happened the past century. You already see millions who flat out refuse to engage in waging at all, because it is no longer worth it.You're basically clinging onto the myths from an era that is already bygone today. If tards like you keep larping the year 1950 and supporting the status qou instead of clamoring for reform, we are headed towards very dark days indeed.
>>34586769> in China they killed hundreds of thousands or even millions of landlords? Their tenants would bury them alive, strangle them, dismember them, or just bust out the firing squad.I love how that made everyone richer, the nation freer and the people better fed
>>34588275This is such a fucking larp lol. You are poor and I smell the stench of your poverty through my internet
>>34588291It absolutely did. While I disagree with the current policies of the CCP, compared to the feudal brutality of the Qing and the comprador exploitation of the Kuomintang they were undoubtedly the best option.
>>34588291For sure, stealing things from others makes thieves richer.
>>34588228You marked the wrong comment you absolute animal.
>>34586687you should stop being his friend, and also isolate yourself from everyone who disagrees with you politically (even if its your family). then, find yourself a nice commune and fight the power with all your awesome new friends!https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NWvER50j2oQ&ra=m
>>34588291I know you're trying to be a retard and make a jab but it unironically did lmao