GF said she likes to go clubbing sometimes just to dance and drink a little bit, she goes with her friend group. explained to me she doesn't cheat or do degenerate stuff. is this a larp? am i crazy to think that going to the club while in a relationship without your partner is disrespectful?
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>>34592911Youcan think whatever you want, if you don't like it then break up with her. Personally, I also go to the club to dance and that's it so I get your gf's perspective
>>34592911>am i crazy to think that going to the club while in a relationship without your partner is disrespectful?You very much are crazy to think that, yes.
There's nothing wrong with your girlfriend shaking her ass and rubbing her body against men while drunk and obviously nothing untoward would happen. You're paranoid, bro. Work on your insecurities.
Go with her and see how it is. I wouldnt say its a deal breaker just yet.>>34592962If you arent a foyim than you are probably a cuck. Dudes dont go to the club to drink and dance they go to FUCK. There is nothing wrong with being uncomfortable with your girl going out to the club wearing a skin tight mini dress and dancing 10 cm away from a bunch of dudes who will probably try to dance with her and hit on her. Women always do this shit too where they deny dudes are hitting on then when it is very obvious they are.
>>34592911it's ok to not want a partner who does things like that. i'd never go to a club without my bf and i would ask him not to go to a club without me either if he wanted to.but a woman who already has a habit of going with friends, i doubt she will stop. and it doesn't even matter if she never cheats or refuses to even talk to any other men, imo wanting to go clubbing without your partner just shows lack of respect for your relationship .
>>34593425>Dudes dont go to the club to drink and dance they go to FUCK. There is nothing wrong with being uncomfortable with your girl going out to the club wearing a skin tight mini dress and dancing 10 cm away from a bunch of dudes who will probably try to dance with her and hit on her. Women always do this shit too where they deny dudes are hitting on then when it is very obvious they are.devils advocate but normie women sit in circles with their friends and drink and scream and dance, they dont normally invite men in. if OP's girlfriend is not disrespectful or degenerate and neither are her friends its not gonna be an issue. the issue imo is whether the friends are trustworthy or not. dunno desu but its not always crazy like that. can tell who has and hasnt gone to a club before in this thread, especially with normies.
>>34592911Going to the club thing is ok, the question is how would she react if you asked to join them. Does she invite you to go with her? I'm not the type of person that enjoys clubbing but if someone invited me to go just for fun I'd take my girl with me. Only time that's not possible is if it's "girl's night" because you're gonna mess up the table's intimacy if you're not friends with them.
>>34592911Yeah you are crazy to think that. If you're worried that she'll cheat on you, maybe you shouldn't be dating her? And no, its not disrespectful; she isn't going to the local glory hole.
>>34592911Guy code: if you are not a guy who clubs you look like a cuck if you date a girl who goes clubbing. Non negotiable. Similar to having a wife who didn’t take your last name. Not everyone will be judgemental but every masculine man will look down on you. women and progressive types will like it but they enjoy anything that emasculates you. The real question is how seriously you take yourself I guess. As far as actual cheating, what women do in clubs aka farm male sexual attention at most modest is in my eyes unfaithful. But if you think cheating has to be physical you have to factor in her past behaviors, and how obsessed she is with you. As proxy you can calculate how much better you are than her. If it’s significant and she knows she’s getting away with robbery being with you it’s unlikely she’ll actually cheat
>>34595125>if you don't do dipshit activity XYZ then you're a cuckFags like you are the exact reason why a bitch thinks she can do better than her man with no effort.
>>34595125>Similar to having a wife who didn’t take your last namenever understood this one. shouldnt it be based on which name sounds better? thats how i'd look at it. tradition thing I guess idk too autistic for that
>>34592911>am i crazy to think that going to the club while in a relationship without your partner is disrespectful?If you're terminally online and autistic and you don't know how normal people behave then I understand why this would be really stressful or confusing to you. The reality is that, for most people, "clubbing" is usually sitting at a crowded table with a group of people while yelling over music for like an hour just to go to the next place and do it again. Somewhere in the world of online autist delusions people got this idea that all bars were like high end miami strip clubs where people are kissing and grinding and NBA players are throwing out money to random women doing cocaine off of each other's tits. Most clubs are pretty boring. Maybe go with her and see for yourself.
>>34595157It was a societal norm to switch to the man’s last name until liberals changed it to eschew tradition and masculinity so it’s a very left coded move. The only time you’d do it is if you’re whipped because men don’t typically champion feminism without a woman telling them to. Unfortunately(?) the status of your wife’s last name is interpreted as a political statement, although obviously you can ignore that context. I’m just trying to explain how it’s perceived by different people. >>34595144 (looking at this guy)
>>34592911It depends on how long you've known this girl and whether you can have difficult conversations with her. If you bring up the fact that it makes you uncomfortable and she dismisses you outright, then yeah, I'd say it's disrespectful. It's reasonable enough to not want your girl out clubbing - it's a charged environment rife with degeneracy. By the same token, you can't turn your back and start gooning to chicks online. As long as you're abiding by your own ideal of commitment, there's nothing wrong with your expectation. On the other hand - if she listens to what you have to say, speaks to you with humility and honesty, and either (1) promises to stop going or (2) offers to invite you the next time she plans to go so you feel better about the situation, then I don't think you should worry too much. I know it's easy for people to say "fuck her, all women are whores, *blah blah blah*" on here because this is 4chan and the misanthropy runs deep, but there are some girls that really do just like dancing and hanging out with their friends in a group setting. That being said, the litmus test for this relationship is whether you can talk to her about it without it blowing up into something crazy.
>>34592911If she just offered up an explanation that she isn't cheating or doing anything degenerate at the club while drinking, without you needing to ask her anything, she probably is cheating or at the very least she is okay with letting other dudes grind up on her.
“If you marry a good-time girlA joyful woman known to her town,If she is wayward,and revels in the moment,do not reject her, but instead let her enjoy;joyfulness is what marks calm water.”-Vizier Ptahhotep
Dump her, going to the club for a woman is like a man having a dating app while in a relationship, do not listen to the retards here, live by your own rules, many good ladies exist and they have good pussy too
>>34595571do men get together in groups to socialize and have a good time on dating apps? no dude obviously not dont be daft. should he leave her or not is up in the air but that comparison is retarded and you are intellectually disabled if you genuinely believe it.
>>34595588I live in a country with the cheating rate of 0.9% go fuck yourselfDo not believe the other anons OP, they want you to be a cuck, why do bitches go clubbing just to get hung over and listen to music they do not like? They love male attention. We are social beings, talk to your girl. If she refuses to listen move on from her
You either trust her or don't trust her. That's all.
>>34595601maybe this a cultural difference then? no clue what country your from but I can tell you now that normie women dont do this in groups. if she was going alone then absolutely but most do it for the social experience with their friends. The womens favorite part isnt the male attention, its getting all dolled up and taking photos. I promise you that cheating can happen but isnt inherently going to happen. Im not trying to make OP a cuck, im trying to weigh in with unbiased knowledge from my life experience. the point of the board mind you. no need to get aggro about whatever your country is, i could care less you hairless baboon. pull your head out your ass and understand the world isnt like your country, each different country has different social differences. dont be retarded man im not even trying to argue with you im trying to help OP's anxiety.
>>34595626I am just saying..we do it better here
>>34595647where? also cheating statistics arent accurate and I wouldn't use them to judge your country's social purity.
>>34593425If you feel that men hitting on your girlfriend means she will automatically end up fucking them, then that really is cuck mentality. Some people like loud music and dancing. If OP's girlfriend wanted to go clubbing alone, there might be grounds to be slightly suspicious, but a group of female friends going dancing together is, generally speaking, just that: a group of friends having fun together. Will guys hit on her sometimes? Sure. But women get hit on by men all the time; if you can't trust her to say "no" when another man hits on her, you have far bigger problems than can be solved by her not going clubbing.
>>34592911How old are you both and where do you live? Generally clubbing is really cringey and if she’s going with her friend group then any man is 100% getting cock blocked unless said friend group despises you or she has it out for you. Clubs are the worst place to pick up women and no one is getting laid unless a woman goes out of her way to do that. As for disrespect it’s a matter of context.
>>34595721Nta, I disagree.>>34592911I think that there's reasonable suspicion to going to a club, but it doesn't mean automatically cheating anyway. You know your gf best, if she's trustworthy af - cool.Generally though, there are environments where if a girl or guy goes there - there's a higher chance of cheating. The club is one of those. People go there to dance and drink, sure, but what is dance if not body language communication, showing off, interacting with others. The drinks loosen you up so you can dance and interact with others more easily and to feel elevated happiness, and the friends can gas you up or you can gas them up, to find a partner. It's literally cod lobby for girls, and kills are them getting fucked.So I'm not saying everyone who goes to a club will fuck or cheat, but by being part of this activity (of this cod lobby) she is putting a higher risk on her relationship with you than if she didn't go. Personally, I would find it disturbing, something in the back of my mind about her going to a club with a bunch of rowdy friends who I'm sure some or most are single, because find me a group of girls where the entire group are in MONOGAMOUS relationships and they all STILL go to the club? None, there's always singles in the group, and the sex and finding a hot man for the night is the cherry on top to close out a lovely wild night of dancing. Also, big difference between clubs and festivals. I go to a lot of festivals. Same shit happens there but the assumption in festivals is not to drink and fuck specifically. It happens because clubs carry this over, but clubs inherently WANT you to drink and fuck because the music often isn't the interesting part, while people go to festivals because they actually enjoy the artist.
>>34595761>she is putting a higher risk on her relationship with you than if she didn't go.heres the thing. if she was dissatisfied with OP as a boyfriend to the point of cheating it would happen regardless. setting doesnt matter.also thats not the only way those go to the club, its not nearly as one note as that. you seriously dont view festivals as more problematic than clubs even through your own lens?
>>34595809>you seriously dont view festivals as more problematic than clubs even through your own lens?No because I go to festivals to listen to true artists, no one cares about some D-lost DJ in a crowded club where visibility is shit and it's dark and there's flashing lights and colors everywhere. Club doesn't have music as number 1 priority, so definitely if you go to festivals you know there are plenty of people who go there for the music, a lot of them don't even drink. I agree that it would happen anyway IF she was dissatisfied with OP, but that still doesn't refute my point that being there raises the chances of cheating.It's not an environment fit for monogamous relationships to be fair. I would not feel comfortable with my gf going there too often.
>>34592911It doesn't matter.Leave or stay.If you don't like it, leave.Resenting her and staying is cringe
>>34592911I can't date a girl who goes to the club without me. I've made out with, gotten blown by, and fucked lots of girls in relationships at the club. It's a sexually charged environment. Do what you must with this information.
>>34595820>I agree that it would happen anyway IF she was dissatisfied with OP, but that still doesn't refute my point that being there raises the chances of cheating.>It's not an environment fit for monogamous relationships to be fair. I would not feel comfortable with my gf going there too often.I agree that dissatisfaction definitely would be the only reason she would end up cheating. dissatisfaction is always the answer. I think there can be room for a monogamous relationship to allow for club travel, even frequent depending on the person. however I also agree that one must ask why a person that is in a relationship would like to go to the club constantly. not because they want to cheat, but moreso if they simply dont align with OP's interests. I think that if shes doing girls nights and they so happen to want to go to a club and she is a trustworthy and openly communicative person then he shouldnt be anxious. I also think that isnt the case here with how it was presented. cant know for sure but its sounds like a mess.on the festival note idk man maybe I have a different view of festivals but I know a substantial amount of people who go to festivals with the sole intention of drugs and sex. and due to the extended duration, more people are willing to indulge in that sex. so I fail to see how cheating wouldnt be a worse risk there but maybe thats my bias conflicting with yours and its ultimately a difference in opinion im not sure.
>>34595868where at? sounds like miami but im curious
>>34595881Los Angeles. Lickndip, Academy LA, Avalon Hollywood; any of them. Blind Tiger is a bit of a sausage fest to be desu but I've gotten my dick against some ass there + it is bar none the best place for minimal deep tech and tech house, with Sound Nightclub being a close second.
>>34595125Lmao, you base your decisions on what other people think about you
>>34595157It is actually interesting. It wasn't a thing until the late 1200s when England adopted laws privileging male inheritance. Prior to that, the poorer partner took their spouse's last name as did their children. This was done to make inheritance clearer and less open to challenge. So men who married rich took their wives' last names. Then when inheritance law changed and pretty much all men were richer, taking the man's name became standard.
>>34592911>is this a larp?A few drinks in her a few "you go girl" and she's gonna come home with a rectum full of sperm.
>>34595898Ha. If being conscious of what others think is enough to trigger a response like this I know you are much worse off. Not being able to play the game and responding negatively when someone tells you the rules is very different from accepting the way things are and moving accordingly. Understanding others seems like fag shit until you meet someone who’s skilled at it and you realize it’s an art
>>34595868ditto anon. Girls still hitting the club get fucked and they cover for each other. Single, in a relationship, even married, doesn't matter. Its really easy. Many go intending a hook up. If your girl hasn't moved past clubbing she's not just your girl.
