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>What is /htgwg/?
How to Get Women General is by men, for men, about women, so bring all of your questions about getting and dealing with women here. Some anons on this site actually get laid, and some of them even want to help. If you're trying to meet and date women, then this is the place to ask questions, seek advice, and share experiences. We know how hard it can be. We got you bro.

>What is /htgwg/ not?
These threads are NOT for whining, moping, incels, volcels, MGTOW, hopelessness, or demoralization. We're all aware that meeting and dating women is hard today, and even harder for some, but /htgwg/ is for trying to overcome the challenges. IGNORE the posters who complain, give up, or insist there's nothing they can do. This site has other boards and threads that they can pollute. BE SMART: Spot the bait, don't reply, and DON'T WASTE TIME ARGUING WITH THEM!

>How to ask for advice
Context is important: be more specific than "This girl ghosted me, why?" We can't help if we don't know the situation, so try to provide as much (useful) info as possible ("I was at the bar, this chick was checking me out..."). What's your relationship with the girl? How long have you known her? Any conversation screenshots? Etc... Don't forget to ask an actual question.

>Resources and Books
https://wingman.live/ (AI dating coach)
https://pdfcoffee.com/318797392-mark-manson-models-2016pdf-4-pdf-free.html
https://archive.org/details/robert-glover-no-more-mr-nice-guy-id-353324692-size-612
https://www.youtube.com/@YourWingmam
https://www.doctornerdlove.com/blog/
https://pastebin.com/7U5Sdhwq (Leykis 101)
https://dokumen.pub/why-women-deserve-less-firstnbsped-1467978302-r-1917433.html
https://www.fantasticanachronism.com/p/how-to-be-good-at-dating
(new suggestions with working links are welcome)

REMEMBER: It's good to read and prepare, but don't overdo it. Get off this site: go learn and build up your social skills by meeting actual women in the real world.

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Be honest.

Is getting women even worth it? Is it worth all the effort?
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>>34599738
Yes. Very much yes. All my favorite memories involve women
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>>34599738
The best sex I've ever had, that one day alone, was worth every second in the gym and every day of calorie tracking, and that's without mentioning how maximizing for women improved life in every other way.
Sex totally rules and don't let anyone convince you otherwise
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This girl I've been talking off tinder with seems to be kinda weird and/or autistic and idk if I wanna get involved in that but on the other hand, I'm also weird and/or autistic so who am I to talk.
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>>34599738
What else is there to do?
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>>34599753
>>34600008
you cultists idolize women
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Reposting from last thread

I was at the grocery store yesterday and a short, cute, chubby Latina looked at me and made eye contact and smiled at me. I didn’t know what to do and got really anxious so I went the long way around the store so I would pass her again paid for my stuff then left.

Am I totally hopeless? I was wearing a retarded Superman S t-shirt since I went to the gym beforehand so I felt a little awkward talking to a girl in it but at the same time I’m 24, a girl smiling at me should not be able to fuck me up that much. Am I salvageable?
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>>34600017
Answer my question.
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>>34599738
"all the effort?"

>oh no i have to talk to people
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>>34599738
I went two years without women and since starting again I've felt more alive than I ever did in those two years.
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>dating girl with D cup tits
If I can make her my gf or even FWB I will be in heaven. But I will kms myself if I fuck it up.
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>>34575068
>>34598979
This faggot has it completely backwards. "Fashion" is so ugly that it has to be changed out every six months. If you're wearing anything that didn't look good three years ago and you can't be reasonably certain it won't look good in three years, that's because it's shit.
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>>34583003
I'd say go for it,

>I posted on IG about how I changed my brakes on my car over the weekend
not to sound like a shithead but why? I'm only asking because I'm also an autism/o/ and I can never bring myself to post shit like that unless it was something major or conversation worthy, I wish I could but it just feels too boring to post to me
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>>34600397
I wouldn't recommend taking drastic measures after one stumble, there are other fish in the sea and statistically the average bra size is increasing every year across the board.

>>34599814
If you haven't already, I'd at least meet her in person once so that you can get a proper vibe, she could just be a bad texter. I once met up with a gal who I'd texted, and face timed with only to discovery upon meeting her she didn't have any thumbs.
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>>34600533
>If you haven't already, I'd at least meet her in person once so that you can get a proper vibe, she could just be a bad texter. I once met up with a gal who I'd texted, and face timed with only to discovery upon meeting her she didn't have any thumbs.
Was not how I was expecting that to end.
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>>34600533
I wasn’t serious but it would hurt a lot. In addition to having great tits she’s just my type in general. It would probably take a lot of searching to replace her.
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>>34600533
>statistically the average bra size is increasing every year across the board.
doesn't count if they're fat
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>>34600652
>only counts if they're fat
ftfy
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>>34599628
this girl has the normie stare that says "holy fuck I'm so uncomfortable with this guy. His flat affect makes me think he's a murderer"
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I've noticed a lot of attractive women walking around at 5pm after work

They are way better looking that people on Hinge. I've also swiped through all the women in my city.

I need to think of ways to introduce myself in person.

This is gonna be fun
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Hooked up with a 19 year old as a 31 year old. Met at a college job fair. Man really does get better overtime.
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>buddy brings two of his female friends out tonight
>they meet me and another friend for the first time
>at the end of the night they both ask for his number
>didnt say anything to me when they left
Man this sucks
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>>34600803
Nice man, but what were you doing as a 31 year old at a college job fair??
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Reminder that she expects you to hit on her.

Beautiful women don't fuck cowards.
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>>34600397
I wifed a girl with F cups. Paizuri is cool.
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>>34599738
>Is getting women even worth it? Is it worth all the effort?
no; but you got something better to do?
If there was an alternative wed be all over that.
Its like asking 'is eating bugs worth it?' Not if you have a choice
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When is it appropriate to ask a woman for sex if not at the bar? On a date? After I get her up to my place? Nowhere?
Bring back rape culture unironically.
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>>34600973
But if you do then she’ll report you for harassment.
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>>34599628
This is going to sound strange, but where can I go to get experience specifically with rude and confrontational women? I've bitched up so often in instances where she gives attitude or disrespects me that I close off from all women and don't even acknowledge those that aren't outright indifferent towards me
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I'm cursed with having a lesbian's taste in women so I'm really afraid this androgynous butch I met on hinge is a man. Wish me luck.
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>>34601224
Go pay something like your phone bill in-person and start arguing about this or that extra charge.
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>>34600803
Greentext pls
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>>34600962
He might have been one of the job havers.
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Need some advice
Had a fun time out last night with my friends, but botched getting a girls number at the end of the night. There was a girl I hadnt seen before and we were talking and hitting it off. My friend was trying to wingman, so at the end of the night when I was getting ready to go home, he said loudly "you two should totally exchange numbers"
I got embarassed by that and said No im not gonna do that, and then realizing what I said, then i said but ill give you my instagram, and she said sorry i dont use instagram and instead of then giving her my number I said oh well ill see you next time.

Today i got added to a friend group chat and shes in it so now I have her number. Should I reach out to her and apologize for it being awkward and ask her out? Will she think it creepy that I got her number from the group chat instead of from her directly? I really dont have anything to lose here and I want to get better at just going for it instead of being timid.

however i am going out of town in 4 days so I cant make any plans this weekend, but i could tell her that we should do something next week when im back
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>>34601327
>Should I reach out
Yes
>and apologize for it being awkward
Absolutely not. Just pretend it didn't happen
>and ask her out?
Yes
>Will she think it creepy that I got her number from the group chat instead of from her directly?
As long as you explain where you've got the number. It's less than ideal, but not getting her number last night is entirely on you
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>>34599600
>It sounds like she's getting restless waiting for you to initiate something so she's trying to make things easy for you...

It was too late for me to see this in time, but I'm pretty sure this was spot on last night. We went out to eat, and then came back to my place to watch movies. At some point, several hours into the movies, with us being right next to each other without touching, she asked me, "How do you express desire?". That was probably her asking why I haven't made a move yet and when/how will I do it. Although she is catching on to the fact that I am retarded, we still scheduled 3 more dates. So she's not fed up yet. I'll need to use something like the massage trick to show her I am fine touching her.

I was thinking I should've at least put an arm around her during the movies, but the idea of making any kind of physical move first seems literally impossible to me. I can do anything once I know she wants it. I don't know how to sense it in the moment though. I almost want to tell her that she has to tell me when/how she wants to be touched.
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When is it appropriate to ask a woman for sex if not at the bar? On a date? After I get her up to my place? Over text?
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>>34601703
>I can do anything once I know she wants it
If she's at your house alone with you watching movies she's at least open to things being physical, she wouldn't go inside and hangout like that if she wasn't because it's kind of implied that things could happen
>I almost want to tell her that she has to tell me when/how she wants to be touched
Don't, its a huge turnoff for girls, the only time it's sort of ok to ask them permission for something is right when you're about to stick your dick in them, and even then it's more like "hey, do you want me to get a condom?"
>several hours into the movies, with us being right next to each other without touching
That sounds impossibly awkward, have you even touched her at all? You should be trying to casually touch her throughout the date to get her more comfortable with you, I'm assuming she's giving you lots of body language cues that she's open to your touch that you're just not familiar with. If you drink then I'd suggest having some wine or beers to loosen things up and help with anxiety, it's more for you at this point than her, no need to go crazy just a drink or two.
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>>34601381
That sounds good but how do I mention I got her number from the group chat without also having to mention that I didn’t get her number last night?
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>>34601745
you don't ask, goober.
you can at most ask "wanna go to my room?" after making out on the couch
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>>34601745
I'm a pathetic loser so don't take my advice, but I would just use some kind of innuendo with a wink. They know what that means. But once you are a lone in the right place you just need to make a move. But it's very important to be able to read her body language. If she doesn't seem into it you should stop. A lot of times women will just go along with it because they don't want to hurt your feelings or something, but then she will hold it against you later.
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>>34601703
>loses virginity on first hinge date
>goes on four dates with other girl and doesn’t even kiss her
>she sticks around anyway subtly begging for cock
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>>34601703
Read the Models chapter on touching. Also how did you lose your virginity if you can’t even kiss? Did she just rape you?
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It's tough, dating apps as a non-chad guy in his early mid 20s. Because your pool is women in their early 20s, and these women are in their absolute peak in terms of SMV. So not only are you competing with chads, but also men in their late 20s, early 30s, and all that comes with that (rich older chads etc.). Whilst a man in his early mid 20s is a ways away from his SMV. Of course, this means we win the long-game, but it's frustrating in the moment.
What's more, because the women are at their peak SMV -- and they know it -- they put almost no effort on their profiles. Yapping, naps, margaritas, food, funny. 90% of profiles are fully covered with these 5 words.
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I believe a lot of guys are virgins or fail with women because they don't get the chance to interact with them naturally. Cold approach has it benefits but its ultimately a desperation strategy where you expect women to deal with strange men they just met. Advice should really be geared more towards living a lifestyle that forces interaction with women.
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>>34602336
And that lifestyle is...?
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If you have to over-analyze everytime you are near her, she is not the one.
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>>34602389
Things like working jobs where you have a lot of female coworkers, or going to gym classes that force interaction instead of the solo gym experience.

Gyms are a great example of this. The people who actually manage to find relationships or sex in fitness spaces the most do so in class/skill based gyms where people have to engage with one another.
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>meet girl on hinge, shes an unrionic 9/10 for my physical attractions, fun to talk to, smart, funny, same age, not a slut, etc.
>most shockingly, seems actually interested in me, and does stuff like text first or say things that actually imply a level of thoughtfulness or care and attraction
>went back to her place on first date, just hooked up, didnt fuck
>had our second date this morning, went well
>try to be diligent on not getting feelings quickly, but she actually hits all the right marks in a short time
>she's going away for a week for a work thing (planned before we met)
How do I not fumble this? I know coming off clingy is suicide, but coming off too cold and losing her like that would kill me. We already laid groundwork for seeing each other when she gets back.
I figure hit her up tm and wish her a good flight, and then back off a bit unless she initiates, then near the end of the week, hash out when/what to do when shes back.
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>>34601816
"Hey, it's anon, we've met last night at X. How's it going?" or refer to something you've talked about. Tell her about the number thing if she asks you.
>>34601745
You never "ask" for sex, at least not directly, you make a move. Lean for a kiss, if that works, kiss her neck and then escalate by touching her body. Not difficult, you just need some balls
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>>34602452
>The people who actually manage to find relationships or sex in fitness spaces the most do so in class/skill based gyms where people have to engage with one another
Yeah, you're not wrong, it's just that classes are usually useless for gains and cost extra, so they only really make sense if you're already jacked and ok with fucking around maintaining to prioritize getting bitches
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Guys, I have an otter mode body
Should I include a mirror selfie of my body in my dating app profile?
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>>34602918
If you go outside show off your body in a picture there (like the beach or hiking).
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>>34600060
>Am I totally hopeless
irrelevant
>I was wearing a retarded Superman S t-shirt
irrelevant
> I’m 24, a girl smiling at me should not be able to fuck me up that much
why not?
You focused on all this negative shit you think about yourself even after she smiled at you. did SHE say your shirt was retard? did SHE say you were hopeless?

Let this oldfag give all of you some advice; every post that's generally in the form of "does X thing I did/lookedl like/said mean I'm Y to women" is meaningless.

The reason everyone fixates on these details comes down to one thing, fear of rejection. Avoiding a bruised on your ego. You all want to find that one answer that's says if change X thing about me then I can GUARANTEE women will like me, I can GUARANTEE I won't be embarrassed or hurt whatever.

When people say dating is worse today than a generation ago. I 100% agree and the prime example of that from what is see is how terrified men has become of rejection. Hearing a no has never felt good but for whatever reason it's become unbearable for men.

I'm not downplaying that feeling, it's real and it has a body count in the millions of unborn children from unborn relationships. However, there's a huge disconnect from the actual real world consequences of trying to flirt with a girl a what we feel like will happen.

There's all sorts of theories as to why this is happing but on an individual level the important thing to ask yourself is two things; How much do I want to connect with a girl and how real are the risks I'm imaging actually are
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>>34602741
Just ask if you can see her when she gets back and text her a few times during her trip.
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Anyone else use this for dating purposes? I ask it for texting advice, planning dates just talking over things. I probably have it to thank for not autisming up my current girl.
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>>34602990
do you have an example conversation?
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>>34603005
She had texted me asking about date attire that morning.
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>>34603005
>>34603053
And then I negotiated with it a bit to hone the response I ended up sending.
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>>34603100
what do you do irl in a face to face conversation
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could've been worse
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>>34602746
Nice that’s what I did. It’s been a few hours with nothing. but I’ll give it until tomorrow and if still no response then I got my answer
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>>34603110
I don't pick up girls IRL but I have no problems just talking on dates. I've been working on that basically my entire life (good conversation with a girl isn't much different than good conversation with anyone else) and if I do fuck up I can confidence my way out of it.

It's texting and managing my feelings that is difficult to me. Texting because it's such a limited medium that it's easy to fuck up, and my feelings because autism.
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>>34603312
I'm the same way and I wish I knew how to fix it, IRL or on the phone I'm fine, but over text I'm too worried about coming off as like a freak or something.
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I've been reading No More Mr Nice Guy and the follow up book about not being a bad dater. I find them pretty useful but the author also gives me grifter vibes. Is he a scammer or is he legit?
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>>34603516
Probably the same as talking IRL - experience. The problem is that you talk to way more people IRL than you will ever text girls early in the dating process, so it'll take a lot of longer. But that's why I bounce things off AI. It's less autistic than I am.
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>>34603205
Update, she replied and said heyy with two y’s, am I in?
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>>34603533
You're in.
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>>34603516
>>34603525
Oh and I'll also add that it's still a relatively new form of communication that changes regularly. There's no "how to win friends and influence people" bible for text communication, so we're all just figuring it out.
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Is it bad to finally decide to put in serious effort into dating at 34 years old? I've always been a content volcel virgin because honestly I hate the dating game, but I'm curious as to what I could achieve if I put my mind to it. I feel like I have the advantage of outcome independence since I can just wander back towards the path of becoming a 40 year old virgin if it doesn't work out.
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>>34603577
No worse than deciding not to, and probably better. What women want is often good for you anyway (fitness, health, etc.).
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>>34602452
Not him, but he closest that I got to natural interactions would be at work, but not with female coworkers. Asking a customer out would be an odd choice so I won't ever do it. There's one customer who I've seen and spoken to a few times a little casually, but I've never made a move on her because it just doesn't seem like a wise choice.
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>>34602990
I can tell when women use llms to text me. I spend 10 minutes thinking about an abstract topic, and then they respond in 10s with something just as profound? And they barely speak English.

It's very not genuine. At least don't use the emojis
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>>34603788
Just copying and pasting directly isn't genuine yeah.
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>>34603525
>>34603543
>The problem is that you talk to way more people IRL than you will ever text girls early in the dating process
That's the thing though, I've had online friends and IRL bros that I've known for years so texting shouldn't be so weird to me but I still somehow shit the bed despite talking the same way I would over text as if I was talking to any of my buddies. Its like "just be yourself bro" works IRL for me but that's it
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Taking (legal) psychedelic drugs to build up the courage to ask out women in public

Good idea or bad idea?
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How do I get a fat chick to slim down? Is this a worthwhile project?

There's a fat chick with an extremely pretty face who wants to fuck me. I'm not really into getting anything more than head from her, but I'm wondering if I can get her to slim down and add her to my roster. She's not crazy fat, but could stand to lose like 40-50 lbs.
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Genuine question: am I the asshole if she says "call me later, then" as a response to "hey, I'm a bit distracted with work and chore at the moment" and I haven't called for six hours due to those obligations? Especially considering we've only chatted in text since being matched?

Why are women blocking me for having a life, why do they act like we're in a relationship even before the first date?
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>>34600008
Make something and die.
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>>34604610
nobody is an asshole, chill out. do you want to call her? then call her when you can. if you dont want to call her just break up with her.
>Why are women blocking me for having a life, why do they act like we're in a relationship even before the first date?
lmao bro she just requested you give her a call and you're acting like she's telling you to stay home from work because she thinks you're cheating on her or something. you need to relax.
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>>34604634
As I mentioned, we are not in a relationship, we just matched on Bumble, we haven't even had a date yet. We've just had calls together to get to know each other. She seems to have blocked me because I did not call her sooner.
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How do casual sexual relationships work? I've been seeing this girl once per week for a few hours for the past 3 weeks. We had sex last week and we're still talking but I really don't want a gf rn. Do I need to explain this to her or do I wait until she brings it up? I do really like/respect her so I don't want to completely fuck her up by waiting a month to tell her this
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>>34604568
>not crazy fat
>could stand to lose like 40-50 lbs
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>>34601797
I hug her when I see her, but that's about it. Didn't touch her at all during the movies. She touched me a few times, when laughing or something similar. It wasn't sexual touching.

I'm putting my arm around her next time though. Now, I'm sure she was sending signals for that.

>>34602217
The first girl led everything. Basically convinced me to ask her out. After the date, when we got back to her place, she wanted to kiss, and I warned her that it was a first for me; which led to me admitting I was a virgin. At first, she didn't believe me, but I guess she was horny, because then she taught me to kiss, sucked my dick, and got on top of me. After that I was able to initiate kissing and sex on my own with her.

The new girl seems like she expects me to lead things.
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>>34600414
honestly, just chuck taylors, jeans and a brandless plain tshirt is enough. simplicity is the way to go with fashion. a lot of people get fashion wrong, it's not meant to be about sticking out, it's about blending in well.
james dean nailed it decades ago, it's a timeless, simple look that doesn't scream for attention. no accessories, no gimmicks, anyone can pull it off.
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>>34604714
>Do I need to explain this to her or do I wait until she brings it up?
You wait until she brings it up
>I do really like/respect her so I don't want to completely fuck her up by waiting a month to tell her this
It's been only three dates, if anything she'll think you're just another fuccboi
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>>34604790
>It's been only three dates, if anything she'll think you're just another fuccboi
She thinks I'm just another fuccboi now or she will if I bring up the situation before she does? She invited me out to one of those dates and she's inviting me to go do something this weekend. Pretty sure she's really into me and idk, maybe that's normal. Are situationships like this or is this the start of a long term relationship, at least to her?
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I have no idea what to say on these stupid hinge prompts.
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>>34604826
How should we know? Just have a talk when the time comes
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where do i start meeting women as a sensitive young man or do i just cold approach outside (even though that seems kinda difficult where i live as they are mostly with friends everywhere) i have noone to go to bars/clubs with and i dont go to college/uni and i work at a car dealership where the only woman is the 50yo accountant (married)
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I hate women so much you can’t even begin to imagine what it’s like, but you should try.
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So, there is this girl that just joined a club i have been part for a few years now. This club is mostly men, good % of which is single. Somehow we seem to get along well, but we do not see each other often enough, like once every two weeks when the club meets. When we are in person we are often together, but outside there is radio silence. Few days afo i tried texting her about how to do a thing related to the club and ended the conversation with "Let me know when you are done or if you need help", but it has gone unaswered. Do you a followup is due, or do i wait? My hope is that if the conversation starts, it can snowball, but so far it is drier than the desert.
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>>34604610
She unmatched you?
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>>34604762
Hot.
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Talked a bunch with my crush today.
I'm in ecstasy.
I can talk comfortably with her now but we haven't texted yet. Getting her number is easy enough but I need an excuse to text her. How do I go about this? We can talk about food and fashion btw. She wears really cute clothes.
We're barely friends. My goal is her heart. I want her and only her.I do not want to move on.
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>>34604568
I dated one of those for 6 years (fuck you). I got her to lose 20 lbs but that was it. Also she gained it back quickly after graduating college.
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>>34604986
Hinge
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>>34605069
Kazakhstan pls go
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>>34605522
I'm in europe it's just foreigners and libtard art students looking for foreign dick on there
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>>34604392
drugs are bad
just do it sober, it's way more intoxicating. You want to feel alive. Trust me.
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>>34604392
just sip a little bit
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What do women mean when they have Short Term relationship included on their profiles?

Am I supposed to believe they want to hookup/date for 3 months and then say goodbye?

Most women I've got to know had trouble parting ways with me after just 3 dates, so are these Short Term women insenstive to emotions or what?

I don't see it as being code for "I just want sex". If it is that, please explain how.
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>>34605595
Situationships. You bang for a bit and then it ends, usually abruptly and for no discernible reason. But I agree women tend to catch feels after you bang them good
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>>34605736
Huh, interesting some women *think* they want a situationship...

>women tend to catch feels after you bang them good
good lad
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How to get girl who's a young adult, looks extremely attractive, has many pets, doesn't eat meat, watches vampire diaries, calls all problems and chores "tragedies" and still talks with her ex?
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I've been dating my gf for 3 months. We've been official for a week though. She asked me "is there anything as your girlfriend that you'd like me to improve on?" I had nothing to say. She's really great and I like her a lot. What do you think I should've said?
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I am deeply conflicted by the idea of cold approach, particularly during the day.

It is true you see so many beautiful women simply by walking around... At the same time, now that I have more social awareness, I know it is deeply weird to try to talk to strangers in random places. I know no guy in my area (Puerto Rico) does that.

And at night, let's face it, you have to turn it into a job, beautiful women are never alone, takes quite above average social skills to break into a group.
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>>34605887
I’d would’ve just teased her. Said she smelled really bad or something and never confirmed that I was kidding. Let it be a running joke for a while.
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>>34605887
I'll let you know when something comes up, until then keep being the bestest *kiss*
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>>34605915
when you don't have friends (like me) , have swiped through all the women on hinge (like me) , and wfh (like me) cold approaching is very reasonable

just because other men don't do something, don't mean you follow suit with inaction
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>>34606147
But it's socially retarded to do something like that in my area. Makes me feel like I'm some kind of scummy salesman or like I'm a moron.
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>>34606199
if you feel a divine calling for a specific woman based on her look, you gotta do it

if it's just to put your penis in her orfices, that's sorta scummy, but yolo

I guess men use apps in PR? Are people conservative there?
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>>34606215
I think here it's kinda low trust and social proof counts heavily. A Canadian friend of mine who now lives here mentioned he stopped doing cold approaches here because he was getting weird reactions (he was successful doing that in other countries).

I have never felt a divine calling for a woman based on her look, that's just lust, don't delude yourself.
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>>34606236
>never felt a divine calling
low T and low C (coom)
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>>34606243
Feeling lust is low T. now? Actually, I had my testosterone checked once, it's average.
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>>34606247
it's a mentality, as much as a physiological thing
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>>34606254
Anyway, when doing cold approaches, did you have to struggle against a feeling like "I'm doing something socially retarded", or was it just fear of rejection?
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>>34606261
I kinda zone out when I do it cus I have so much adrenaline

of course it can be socially retarded. Especially when approaching Asian women 20 years older than me
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cold approach hour begins at 5pm, gents. Get your asses to the mall!!!
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>>34599738
Nothing beats the love of a good woman, sadly most (like almost all) women prove themselves to not be good at all. Don't confuse this with relationships ending because most relationships suck on the inside. Most dudes in long, committed relationships are not getting any other than a sad handjob or ride for their birthday and they're parched all year. Nothing is worse, emotionally, for a man than being in a committed relationship with his woman and her never giving him any action. So the answer is, for most dudes, no the effort was not worth it but they're unable to admit to themselves that the woman that once treated them so well is long gone and they're now stuck with an enemy in their bed. But there's a way out that requires even less work than divorcing these chicks and it's just no longer giving in to them. If your lady becomes a harpie its because she wants control over you, stop giving her that control and she'll either behave or leave, either way you win. Unfortunately, most dudes are afraid of losing their lady because then they'll have to hunt for a new one. But the answer is to not hunt it is to stop looking entirely. You, as the man, are the prize so start acting like it instead of acting like a loser who goes around chasing women. Women can sense that desperation and even if you end up with one, she'll resent you for being such a loser eventually. There's tons of relationships, getting into a relationship is easy, being happy is hard. My wife left and I'm happy, I'm hurt, but I'm happy with the peace she left me to live in alone. Most guys cannot handle this truth though because their egos won't allow them to let go. I am almost always inundated with replies from them trying to explain away their child-like view of the world, they hate what I have to say because they're emotionally weak, but o have no sympathy because had someone told me what I just told you they'd have saved me so much pain.
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>>34606298
If I wanted another girl I’d just flip on hinge and choose from the ones that like me. I don’t even cold approach on apps lel.
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>>34606367
damn
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>>34603533
She’s pretty slow to respond on WhatsApp but that’s the only way I can contact her right now, several hours between messages
Like the other anons I suck when it comes to texting. It turns into a back and forth of just answering questions with the other person asking you the same one back. I’m struggling with this girl and I don’t want to ask her out yet, I want to get to know her before that so I need to keep texting until it’s time to suggest an in person activity
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If you're in the dating app shit list, I'm talking a single like per month tier shadowbanned, is there any way to salvage it or should I kill myself?
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>>34606373
It’s so easy, I just sit there and they come to me. And I know they already like me (since they swiped) so there’s no ambiguity if I also like them. If I were to like a bunch of profiles I’d get a lot of girls matching that didn’t already like me and would need to be convinced, and I can’t be bothered about that.
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>>34602990
I used it for getting example reponses on popular shit tests, he was quite good at it, but you need push him for giving you risky responses otherwise he will give you some beta male responses
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>>34606621
What on earth are 'popular shit tests'?
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>>34606567
Chad alert
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>>34604762
>She touched me a few times, when laughing or something similar
Ok, that's a pretty clear signal that you should be doing similar things, finding excuses to casually touch her, do that more often, then just don't take your hands off her
>The new girl seems like she expects me to lead things
95% of girls will, even if they're experienced/sluts
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no ass in the streets today
I walked the strip just before this. It was loud.

mall time
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>>34606636
I mean you can ask for shit tests or any kind of teasing you encounter during dating, but here some examples
>do you do this(flirt) all the time with girls?
>do you tell this to every girl?
>are you interviewing me?
You have to ask him/yourself what are the common scenarios and how to handle them with for example teasing back.
also it's good if you know some PUA theory and terms like "push pull", "misinterpretation" etc, but you just cannot came up with pratical examples in your case/context. you can ask him how to deliver some info in more flirtatious instead of replying with one word answer.
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>>34605915
>>34604986
>do i just cold approach outside
I think the idea of true "cold approach" will generally have a dismal success rate and the most actual benefit you'll get from it is getting used to rejection, the better approach is to learn to recognize subtle signs of interest from women in your daily life and get better at talking to those girls, it will usually work better if it's not actually outdoors outside, more like at the gym/shopping/restaurants/wherever
>>34605534
>I'm in europe
>Hinge
Where are you in Europe? Try all the major apps, Hinge/Tinder/Bumble/etc it's kind of random what app is most popular in any location
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>>34599699
Challenge the maidens man to a duel
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>>34599738
It is if you get the right girl
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>>34606683
Kek, I’m no chad. Probably a /soc/ 7-7.5, 5’11 on the apps (5’10 in reality), /fit/ but not with big arms. But I do have 10/10 photos and a good profile as well. Good enough to get likes from cuties.
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>>34606740
I went on a date with a conservative girl three years ago who asked me
>do you go on lots of dates from hinge?
and I still have no idea what the right response was.
>yes
I’m a rake.
>no
I’m a loser.
>other/ambiguous
I’m a rake.



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