Has anyone here actually tried therapy? I was thinking of going, and my parents have tried to get me to go, but I worry it's just going to be me spilling my guts for a leftoid woman who doesn't really know what she's talking about. What do you all think?
>>34609990you can pick your own therapist. get a male therapist if you dont trust women or dont feel like you can be honest with women. there are plenty of male therapists who know what you're going through and have dealt with a lot of people like you.therapy can definitely help if you want to engage with it. it's not just talking, there will also be some times when you're asked to do some work or explore things you're not completely comfortable with, like behaving in ways that might seem scary or make you feel vulnerable. it's important to trust your therapist so if you go to one and dont like it, feel free to speak up and seek a new therapist. this is ultimately for your own betterment, and if you arent totally willing to engage you're going to get less out of it.
>>34609990I think it was a little helpful at first because I didn't know anything but after a while it's just someone saying "gee that sounds hard" while you spill your guts and when you ask for actionable advice they're just like "what do YOU think you should do?" DBT was helpful in that it helped me train myself to manage the emotional freakouts better and exist in public more easily. I think it's worth trying a couple times. See how it makes you feel. If you've gone to 6 sessions and you still think the therapist is a dumbass or kind of a dick or whatever it is just switch. A lot of them don't know what they're talking about. Like, a lot. You'll go through half a dozen before you find one you have any respect for. You can request a man, and you can request someone that specializes in whatever is going on with you.
>>34609990I had a mandatory therapist in highschool for about a year and hated it. I think it works for some people, but if you do decide to try it make sure you get a male therapist because women live in a completely different world and wont really understand your problems.
>>34609990My only advice is know what you want out of therapy. Tell your therapist, this is my problem and I want to be like *this* instead
yes my therapist is amazing and she has helped me cope through many things and unironically helping me achieve my dream career too through all the stress. I have dealt with a breakup, health issues, have the best relations with my family to date, understand how to set boundaries and know how to hold them effectively, and helped me through many hard times. Shes truly amazing.
>>34609990A good therapist analyses your body language and the way you speak and they can tell a lot from that, sometimes it's truths you've tried to deny to yourself. It's hard work and emotionally draining, it's not mollycoddling to make you feel better temporarily. Good mental therapy is like treating bones that fused together wrong after breaking, you gotta break it all over again under medical supervision and have it heal up right with supports etc.You need to find a therapist you trust because unless you can be fully open and honest with therapist, they can't help you. Find a register of licensed therapists in your area (there's usually a government list) and go from there, don't fuck with random unregistered people. If you won't let randos do surgery on you, don't let randos be your therapist.
It can work but you have to:1. Find a good one. Older male therapists might be more your speed.2. Go in with a goal. Talking about your problems is a core part of therapy but it's really easy to make it into a weekly venting session. Use a journal for daily venting.
>>34609990It works extremely well for someone who is willing to put the effort in; but you aren't. What you don't, and never will, understand is that it's not the therapy itself that helps, it's all the work you do between sessions. The session itself is a way for you, in collaboration with the therapist, to figure out what the changes are that you need to make to your life to be happier; when it works, it's because you actually make those changes. But you're far too arrogant even to listen to advice, let alone actually on it; so no, don't bother.
>>34609990>I worry it's just going to be me spilling my guts for a leftoid woman who doesn't really know what she's talking aboutwhy would politics come up at all? i was in therapy for 8 years and never once talked about politics. is your idea of therapy like, tourette syndrome where you're imagining you have to get out every single thought you have on everything no matter what anyone thinks?
>>34610318>and they can tell a lot from that, sometimes it's truths you've tried to deny to yourself.Not OP but damn I think I've only had crappy therapists. 0 for 8. >a therapist you trustHow does one do this?
>>34610936It's not the actual politics that's my problem, but people who have those political beliefs have different ideas on life as a whole.>>34610806You talk like you know me, Anon. I'm not arrogant, it's just a lot of people in fields like that are quacks, so I'm a little skeptical.>>34610949That's my issue. Finding someone I can trust. I have a hard time trusting people
>>34610936>why would politics come up at all? i was in therapy for 8 years and never once talked about politics.Everything is politics to online autists. Its their whole identity.
>>34612407I'm not an autist though.
>>34610806you made a very bad judgement about somebody because its peobably that you are a leftist and he said he doesnt want that. The first principle in getting better is consent
Write everything down. Writing about your thoughts, feelings, dreams, and memories will remind you of other ones, and that's how you bring your subconscious thoughts into conscious awareness. From there you'll notice patterns and things will begin to make more sense. A lot of it has to do with reframing the way you see things. Get a journal, do it yourself, and enjoy the money you saved. Therapists are hacks.
>>34610949>>34612400Filter by credentials first. Find someone qualified, narrow it down to someone with experience in the thing you want to work on for yourself and go from there. You don't just magically trust someone, you meet them, you talk, you open up a little to test the waters and they'll also test the waters with you. If this goes well, you reveal a bit more, and the process repeats throughout the duration of the session. Trusting people isn't easy and is a part of what makes therapy such hard work. If you don't trust the process you won't benefit from it.You usually know after 1 (max 2) sessions if it'll work out long term or not.
>>34612400>>34614156You think I don't know OP? I know that he thinks a therapist's political beliefs matter; he thinks their gender matters; he thinks that the fact that she is a woman (or a "leftoid") necessarily means she doesn't know that what she's talking about; and he thinks therapy consists of "spilling his guts". That's more than enough to conclude that he is both ignorant and closed-minded.t. right-wing XY male who is neither ignorant nor arrogant, but knows both traits when he sees them
>>34609990Yes they work as long as you're willing to speak openly and consciously try to change. I've always spoken to other men and would not speak to a female therapist. I just don't think I could speak openly to one.My therapist once told me that people don't change, they just learn how to better manage who they are. I find this to be true as well, don't expect a magic fix or a total personality change. I still have anger issues but I'm not an explosive spastic retard anymore.
>>34614240So the usual thing. God damn it. I trust the process but not the person. I mean, why should I trust them I'm paying them. I can spill my guts to a therapist it doesn't make me trust their opinion.
>>34614252Oh man. Just let him have his preferrences.
>>34609990It depends what kind of person you are, some people do in fact get something out of it. Some are just to build differently.If you are in the first subset you need to ask yourself if you want to play the game of finding the right therapist because it usualy takes few tries to meet the good and right one for you.My expirience was that Ive got a mandatory work therapist because of stuff that need to be done and I had tp consult him at least once a month, but could set up biweekly meetups. She was a good women, but I didnt get anything than I couldnt get from a serious talk with a friend. The problem is that people dont have friends or said friends dont do serious talks with one another. Currently theres to few people empathetic enough to waste time on hearing about other people problems yet trying to help them with advice.
>>34614252Dude you just sound like a faggot lol
>>34609990No, in order to take advantage of therapy you need to understand and know yourself well enough that therapy becomes pointless. However every therapist comes into a session fully expecting you to have this self understanding
>>34612400>It's not the actual politics that's my problem, but people who have those political beliefs have different ideas on life as a wholeAgain, how are you imagining this problem ever comes up in the actual therapy sessions? Are you imagining this purple haired woman says "well, i think it would be good for your development to go talk to 50 women about why abortion is right, and if you don't do it, you fail therapy!"You've never actually stated what the material distinction that's going to affect your quality of treatment is
>>34614419>I trust the process but not the person. I mean, why should I trust them I'm paying them. I can spill my guts to a therapist it doesn't make me trust their opinion.do you think you are somehow bound to take someone's opinion to heart because they're a medical professional? do you automatically do every single thing a doctor or dentist advises you need to do? or do you listen to them, figure out what they were right about, and ignore the stuff that's triangulation or generic advice because they have to see 20 people a day and it doesn't really match you? you have this conception of a mental health professional like a grade school teacher or cop where you have to do what they say and accept their reasons or else you get in trouble and it's bizarre
>>34609990If you're a man try a male therapist. I've tried a few female therapists and they all fucking suck. The only good therapist I ever had was a nice Christian man who was a psychiatrist and a theologian. Therapy without God just felt like empty self-help bullshit to me. A lot of female therapist will say shit like "you articulate well but I don't sense much emotion from you." Or even gay shit like "it's ok to cry." It's very chick-brained. Women feel better by crying, but it's obviously not the case for a man. It just feels awkward and embarrassing. My male therapist understood that and stuff like it immediately.
>>34617466>I've tried a few female therapists and they all fucking suck.I got lucky with mine, but you obviously have to be comfortable with conceding that you just aren't going to connect as bros or get anecdotes about the male experience. For me, it's not an issue. I have male friends who are my role model that I can lean on.I am a misogynist and have disdain for women, so it helps keep me grounded to speak to a woman. And it's not like the advice is all that much different. We still set goals all the same. And honestly it feels good to have a female hype me up a little.
>>34617345How was that your takeaway? When I say "trust their opinion" I mean "figure out what they were right about". I don't need more self awareness I need to figure out how to not want to kill myself. They can make accurate observations about my character but that doesn't help me. No one can offer me anything convincing and keep telling me I have to want it to work but how is that supposed to work if you're suicidal?
>>34609990it works if you think it does, but the psychiatrist is the one who has the drugs to help convince you.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kmJE0tqFBTw&ra=m
>>34609990I'm late to the thread.It all depends on what kind of person you are. If you are introspective, skeptical, or a curious kind of person, most likely it won't work. A lot relies of it relies on "Replacing" beliefs, by just repeating as mantra.It also won't be useful if you want to be better than the average person, the goal of therapy is for dysfunctional people to return to average function, happiness is never included, it's assumed happiness will be found by the patient once he gets the ball rolling.Finally, be careful with psychiatrists. They will prescribe you antidepressants as a resolutive measure. They are not the "Guardians of antidepressants" like infectologists are to antibiotics. They are simply the authorized entity to prescribe them and so their job is to distribute them. Antidepressants affect your personality deeply and permanently, even after short periods which are no briefer than 3 months. What you think on antidepressants (eg. becoming cynic and numb instead of proactive) will stay with you for the rest of your life. The single most relevant factor in a patient's outcome regardless of therapy used, is their environment. If it's possible to you, go find an easy job, find friends, find a girl that energizes you. If your issue is finding friends for environmental issues, then you're deep in shit and you will need unholy effort and luck to set things in a way happiness is possible. This could invilve months in the least to decades, and you may lose track in the process due to acute stressors. My condolences, and best of luck.
>>34609990Rather no to tell all the first day
this is pretty much how I feel about my therapy sessions. Im halfway through it and its been nice but I just feel like Im being told what someone would want to hear.
Try thishttps://youtu.be/ytp4zaU_Z6I?si=8lpq0l_OWdnKaWOw
