I don't know other people's experiences with porn addiction, but personally is singlehandedly the most damaging thing I have been on. From 12 to somewhere around 18 I was addicted and I was a complete different person to what I am now. I did things I regret, the ones that hurt the most is the people I hurt or kept away from me. Specially friends and family. I wonder how do most people cope with it, since I often ruminate about it. The thing that keeps the most is the dilemma if I should blame myself for it because for in one hand I was not even able to think properly while on that (I was also psychotic to a certain degree). Or blame the addiction entirely.
Youre just a nutjob. It aint the porn
>>34618068I used to have this argument, but I remember that I once spent a whole 4 month period without porn and everything went so normal to the point where I don't remember much of it out of how boring it was. I am not trying to blame it all on porn but if you want me to be honest, I also have psychosis, but it rarely affects me when I am on medication.
>>34617904Addiction is an illness. It's important to work hard on treating it, but it doesn't make sense to blame yourself for having a disease, or for initially understanding the implications of it. The same goes for anything that might cause psychosis.
>>34618089The porn was a symptom of your nutjobery.
>>34617904You guys are so fucking retarded I can't imagine having some kind of like epic legendary internal battle about porn it's really really funny I picture some pajeet like looking around and jerking off really fast like he's commiting a felony and then starts hitting himself in the head and crying loooool u fucking loser dude the problem is your neurosis around the morality of jerking off it's not that deep u need to chill dude it's fucking weird
Actually look at the problem here. Looking at porn and fapping multiple times a day is a response. You are lonely and bored and you're given an easy way to get a dopamine rush. I actually managed to do NNN a couple years ago for the first time ever. I've been fapping for nearly 20 years, multiple times a day. I was proud of accomplishing it, but do you know what I realized that allowed me to relapse? I dropped something for nothing. I had nothing to give me dopamine in response. I was also doing a prolonged fast at the same time, and it made me realize how much I ate just to stave off boredom.Occasional fapping and overeating are normal, but using them as a replacement for the dopamine you get from experiencing meaningful events just leaves you empty and overweight. Imagine if a girl you liked wanted to go on a hike with you, or you spent the whole day running around a new area or having fun. Instead of having a life where you sleep, wake up, do empty meaningless routine, and then wait 5 hours to repeat the process, you need to have some novelty and meaning and sense of progression. This may not be possible depending on where you live. But I remember it being easier to not fap when my life was more full of interesting things to do.
>>34618712I find this kind of fulfillment and novelty in reading but I want to practice spreedreading.
>>34617904Nice, another ez pz user.>"how do I cope with past mistakes"I would argue that you should see it as simply part of the addiction; you're a new person now.But regardless, more generally you just have to accept what happened in the past and just use it to make better choices in the now. That is what stoicism teaches us. Stop ruminating. Take actionable steps to do what is best in the NOW. God bless
>>34620501My biggest problem currently is ruminating. Thinking too much and about anything or specific outcomes of past events. I would like to stop thinking but it backfires often.
>>34620540I would say don't try to just not think about it because that is obviously counter productive and never works for anyone. Instead, whenever you think about it try to remind yourself that what happened is not able to change now, and therefore you can rest.
>>34620554How can I have a more carefree attitude? I used to be like that when I was young. I could get beaten up and stand up and go my day as usual. I wish I could still be uncaring enough like that. Does it have to do with nofap? I am about to get to one month.
>>34620630Congrats you are finally free bro. It feels good on the other side :)Honestly I don't have great advice about how to have a more carefree attitude. I personally try to emphasize to myself that what is in the past is set in stone. It's nice to look at, but it's not going to change. You should join the ez pz discord server, lots of great guys in there who you can talk with too
>>34620692What is the ez pz discord server?And also, I am glad you are inviting me. The unique problem is that I have had a bad history with Discord. I know what I am going to say is maybe a problem of only me but Discord gets me addicted and unhinged more than any other social web. Here in 4chan I am pretty calm and even rarely insult people but in Discord I was pretty different. Thought I would say that the reason was also unchecked screentime, anxiety and that I was a porn addict the time I was there. I wonder if its a problem of design or I am just dumb.
>>34620707You can find the link to the server at the bottom of chapter 33 (titled "Now").Maybe Discord isn't the right fit for you, but I think it might be worth a shot, the people are really chill. Maybe just only use Discord for just this one server and not really use it for anything else.
>>34620730>Maybe just only use Discord for just this one server and not really use it for anything else.The problem is mostly being in one single server and spending too much time online. I am a person who likes being literally unconnected to the wifi connection but alright, I could try to see.
>>34620734Yeah I mean I don't ever really check that server anymore, but every once in a while (like once a year) I do check in just for the feels because quitting porn really did change my life trajectory so fucking much man
>>34620737>I do check in just for the feels because quitting porn really did change my life trajectory so fucking much manOne of the biggest dilemmas I have about porn is if I truly wish I had never encountered it. Yeah, I know it sounds weird, but what happens is that by butterfly effect I discovered many things I ended up liking. Like exercising, spirituality, going outside, reading, etc. Of course porn is bad but I learned a lot on the path. It is a curious dilemma.How do you fare after defeating porn?
If I fix my ADHD, will I be able to get rid of my cooming addiction easier?I have read easy peasy and managed to quit for short bursts, but always fuck it up.
>>34620784I don't know much about ADHD but if what I think it is, yeah. I fall very quickly off my nofap streaks when I don't have my medication. Bad mental states generally are a dooming situation for any addiction since the two feed each other.
>>34620791I have been able to quit using the book for months, then some shit goes wrong and I go right back to cooming.A few days ago I snapped and coomed three times in a row, which I did not even think was physically possible. I am so stressed and it does not help to quit this infernal addiction.
>>34620804One of the best advice I can give you is to live in a state where you internalize that you can always fall back again but also not be stressed by it and live your life. But one of the first things that comes to mind is what lets you to relapse. What was it like the last time you fell?
>>34620741Lol yes it sounds weird but indeed if porn hadn't fucked up my life at first I wouldn't have discovered any of those great things either. Amor Fati.In fact, I had a pretty shit year recently through lots bad luck, but I'm actually glad because it forced me to change my life in a really positive way ultimately
>>34621033>Lol yes it sounds weird but indeed if porn hadn't fucked up my life at first I wouldn't have discovered any of those great things either. Amor Fati.Sometimes I wonder if certain things really happen because they have to happen. I mean, if I had never discovered porn I would 100% be a normal dude with a vanilla life and vanilla beliefs. Or even worse could have end up in a worse place. At least with all the stuff I know, even through so many bad experiences, I know myself better and have actual things I want to do. The correct thing is still to not fall again but one has to learn.
>>34620730It says that the invite is expired.
