I get so resentful of the opportunities women get in a relationship, and feel frustrated with my responsibilies as a male in a relationship. I couldn't imagine having sex with a woman because I'd feel frustrated with the expectations of me and my performance as a male. I feel love towards women, but when it needs to get more intimate, all I feel is resentment and insecurity.I've never actually been in a relationship because of this. Im almost 30 and I don't want to die alone
>>34625354>I couldn't stand being on a relationship.>I never been in a relationship btw.Don't you think there's a logic issue here? If you don't think there's anything wrong with you, than that's the exact problem you have.
>>34625463What? This entire thread is about me having problemsAnd I didn't write "couldn't", I wrote "can't".
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>>34625354>expectations Who is placing these expectations upon you? Despite whatever you think of general "societal expectations", everyone is different, different women will have their own expectations, and if you find one who has expectations you either can't or don't want to fulfill, that means you're incompatible and shouldn't be with them. Not every woman (or even most necessarily) is going to expect the things you're frustrated about from you. Not all of them are looking for a breadwinning provider who pays for everything, or some sex-god who does all the work, that's internet-derived blackpill bait. >because of this I've never been in a relationship It's sounding like there are other reasons you've never been in a relationship. I'd wager that fear is pretty high up on that list.Unless someone explicitly tells you they have these expectations, this pressure is coming from nowhere but yourself. This is self-defeat talking. You're making things up in your head, probably influenced by bullshit you read online, and psyching yourself up about things that haven't even happened to you. Want to know how it actually goes? You meet someone, you learn more about one another, and then you eventually talk about what you want from the relationship. Then, you both fuck up at different times, or discover more about what you actually need and want, and talk about it again. It's a process, not some checklist that you have to meet to qualify for love. If you get some real relationship experience, you'll understand this. For now, you're working off of second and third-hand information, and throwing your hands up before you even see what it's like because someone else on the computer said something you don't like. For a lot of people, anon, even most, the "expectations" part of dating someone is actually short and reasonable, they're open to compromise, and what both of you want from one another changes as you grow. Instead of being vicariously upset, live your own life.
>>34625354But that isn’t the reason you’re resentful towards women is it? How well do you know yourself? What I’m asking here is do you know yourself well enough to actually say in one sentence what the real reason is for your resentment? I only assume and ask these things because humans are built to endure some serious shit and you only tend to end up not enjoying or pursing something that should be enjoyable and is a reason to pursue in itself if you’ve been damaged with respect to that thing in some major way.
>>34625354Good, you'd be a crappy boyfriend anyway. You'd be a typical moid who acts passive-aggressive and manipulative, and projects your personal flaws and negative emotions on your partner. Just go troon out so you can start an OnlyFans and get all the homosocial validation that you actually crave.Seriously though, you need to work on yourself, go to therapy or something. I bet you can't even form relationships with other males, and you expect a random female to come along and be your nursemaid therapist who coddles you and has no flaws of her own.An intimate relationship is about having an intimate relationship between two people who can share their private hopes and dreams and quirks with each other, not a relationship between expectations and expectations of expectations.You've built this fortress of messed up twisted incel beliefs. There is truth to them, but being so reductive is like brain damage or acting schizo.Look within and deal with your resentment and insecurity instead of expecting women to cure you. Guys like you end up getting attached to BPDdemons. Fix yourself first or else your relationships will be predictable trainwrecks.
>>34626637My mom would openly hate on men and belittle my father when I was very young. It made me not want to be a male and feel envious and distant from women. I feel romantic towards women but my ability to have a relationship with one is limited by the feelings I have in my OP>>34626795I think I expressed myself poorly if you're actually thinking I'm an incel. I've had great friendships with women and find I'm more just envious and disconnected from them. The "expectations" is referring to societies expectations of males, not female's expectations of males. Im saying that my previous trauma has shaped me to be an unfit partner for a female and Im not sure where to even begin digging myself out of this hole, which unfortunately just makes me feel more encouraged to continue transitioning
>>34625354If these expectations are an inseparable part of a relationship, and you dislike them, why do you want a relationship? You can always get physical intimacy without a relationship.
>>34626807I've in a similar situation before though my parents eventually separated and a lot of the angst my mom had about that relationship naturally fell on me. Took a lot of work (a little therapy, getting out more and making friends amongst men, slowly getting back to being around women). I'm in a good spot now. Expectations suck but really, you should just focus on what aspects of yourself (both as a person and as a potential partner) you can improve and write down what you want in a partner (and, possible more importantly, what you don't want in a partner). I agree with >>34626795, not working this out now will leave you in a vulnerable position for unstable partners to ruin your mental health further
>>34626795>>34626807You really are transitioning?I mean it's frustrating when folks post questions, and they lack context and seem to be obviously focusing on sort-of red-herrings. If you have gender dysphoria obviously you should mention that front and center, it's kind of important.But also, you express this nice guy/girl victim mentality, and people like that tend to be manipulative jerks without realizing it.Your attitude is so passive. When you are alone you can do whatever you want. Dress up in diapers and bark like a dog, whatever rolls your dice, it's in private. Stop waiting for "society" and "expectations" to give you permission to be yourself and live your life and have the kinds of relationships you want.
>>34626809Id be in a relationship with a man if I wanted physical intimacy. But I only get romantic feelings towards women and I'd like to pursue that >>34626817I was on hrt for 2 years and stopped earlier this year. I think my feelings about my gender is a trauma response caused by my experience with my mother. Id like to just figure out how to be cis and in a normal relationship
>>34626861>Id be in a relationship with a man if I wanted physical intimacy. But I only get romantic feelings towards women and I'd like to pursue thatIn order to get what you want, you have to suck it up and accept the parts that you don't like.
>>34625354>I couldn't imagine having sex with a womanDon't worry. It will never happen.
>>34626807Well, I’d like specific examples. Know I’m not questioning the fact that it happened I’m trying to put your situation into a tangible context instead of an uncomfortably vague “she henpecked the shit out of my dad.” You even say that whatever it was that she was doing and saying left you feeling negatively about being a boy which is a huge leap from belittling your father. I hope I don’t offend you by asking either, you need to understand that you aren’t alone in experiencing a relationship with parents where your sex is treated as a problem.
>>34626950My mom would tell me that men are filthy, don't wash themselves after using the bathroom, that they're abusers, etc. It might not be that extreme, but I was under the age of 4 and it made a huge impression on me not wanting to be any a male at all. Genuinely one of my first memories ever was my parents during me the dairy Queen where they had their first date, and my mom is just making fun of my dad the whole time saying he didn't do enough for her, didn't buy her anything, etc. Which made me feel like the uncomfortable and uninterested in having the expectations of the make role
>>34627003Did she ever get physical with you about your cleanliness as a toddler if you can remember? In the same vein, can you recall the kinds of reactions she would have when, as a very young child, would make messes and have accidents?
Thanks for reminding me to rewatch FLCL for the 18th time OP, I think I'm at a point in my life where I could really use it
Maan, have y0u c0ns1dered you m1ght be Asexual
>>34627021I don't have any experiences like that. All of my negative feelings about makes come from my mom's rhetoric towards them.>>34627041Yes I used to think I was asexual until like 18. I learnt that I am interested in sex with men and slightly interested in sex with women but have a lot of hang ups that make me think the whole thing wouldnt be fun
>>34627023I rewatch flcl everytime I need a good cry