I have the urge to date a 17 year old girl, maybe 16, no younger than that though. I'm an early twenties male. Is there any way I can go about this without getting stoned? How do I satsify these urges without jeopardizing myself and my own future. Doesn't help that most girls that age are retarded and fall in love after five minutes. And before moralfags start asking, yes it's legal in my jurisdiction but obviously still considered shameful.
>>34631100>but obviously still considered shamefulbut not by you, so yolo
>>34631125Lmfao, think I should go for it?
>>34631131NTA, but if it's legal, it's legal. It's legal in my place and I would do the same, just don't know where I can find women, not to mention how to introduce myself to her parents, it would be awkward as fuck.
>>34631146That's what I'm thinking. There are so many hurdles to overcome: first, I've got to find someone who wouldn't make a shitfit of such a proposition, then I've got to make sure they're not another one of those Chris Hansen cocksucker types, then I've got to make sure they're actually stable and not neurotic, plus making sure they aren't the kiss and tell type. So much damn trouble that probably wouldn't even make it all worth it but fuck I want my highschool sweetheart so bad
>>34631100>Is there any way I can go about this without getting stoned?sure but it's a lot easier when they do drugs.
>>34631160Call me a beggar trying to be a chooser, but I hate druggies, they're nasty and will end up as 304s the minute they can't rely on daddy's money anymore. Have you got experience with this type of game?
>>34631146if you plan on being respectful and meeting her parents and progressing it into a genuine relationship, you basically have to meet at university. otherwise, the kind of girl who goes for much older guys is virtually always the kind of girl with absent daddy issues and hoe mother so meeting her parents isn't really an issue.
>>34631166Just graduated a month ago, so uni is no longer an option. Based on what brief experiences I've had with younger girls I can definitely confirm the latter though, but slim pickings do come with a price, that being they fall SUPER easily and have this weird complex where they see you as their father instead. Is that what I want? Maybe, but I don't want her to be so damn neurotic about it
>>34631165the little teenage girls you're looking for (white tiny and elegant) are guarded by police and multiple levels of legal lawsuits and potentially prison. if you want young women so badly, go to a 3rd world country with no laws and search for an ugly girl that has no attention.
>>34631100>Is there any way I can go about this without getting stoned? No. >How do I satsify these urges without jeopardizing myself and my own future. You can't. >Doesn't help that most girls that age are retardedThen maybe they won't make good girlfriends?
>>34631100the perfect age for a man to date is half his age plus 7.
>>34631131also to add, be a fucking chad, she will onyl stay with you if you ACT like a chad, that is to say, you go for your goal no matter what anyone else thinks or says.
>>34631100just do it, life's too shortrecord the consent / some audio where she asks for it just in case
Kill yourself
>>34632284nopethe perfect age is as young as law permits
>>34632263For all the fuckups this place has I actually really like being an American. I don't think I'd be willing to give up my rights as a first worlder just for the mere chance of younger poon>>34632267So what should I do instead? Just got for 18s? Also, I said most, not all, I've met fairly mature 17 year olds before>>34632285Lmfao does this actually work, for real? >>34632325You'd love that, wouldn't you
>>34631100If you have found a girl in your daily life that happens to be 16, Just don't give a fuck about normalfags. If you have the itch to date a 16yo girl and don't know where to find one... Well that's creepy, that's what they call predatory, neither are wrong per se but I don't know where to find those. Language classes maybe?
>>34632267>then maybe they won't make good girlfriends?A girl who loves honestly with emotion, who is still optimistic about the world, who is amazed about all the marvelous things there are, who isn't tainted by hardship or suffering, is a bad woman to date? Maybe it's a loose cannon and would miss a few times, but how can that be bad?
>>34632598Yeah, that makes sense. By language classes, you mean ESL courses?
>>34631100>>34632598Do mind you that she will have to take a big fucking fateful decision anon. At first she will see you as a fling, because she couldn't believe she's dating an older guy. If she manages to fall madly in love with you, she will have to make the early decision to remain alone in the last decades of her life when she's needed the most, she needs to see other people once you're gone and both must be comfortable with this. This is the big underlying decision that most girls can't take when dating an older guy.
>>34632619Totally valid concern as I get older, but I'm not even 25 yet. Unless I die younger or something is that really much of a concern?
>>34632614Depending on the language you will meet different kinds of people.If you're in the third world, english is a requirement for graduation, you meet anyone, the cohesion is low. If you choose Japanese, you find mostly guys, poor but ambitious chicks that want to study abroad, mostly introverted people and BPD fujos, if you're lucky it will feel like Genshiken. I haven't been to french, german or Italian classes, I assume the more developed country of the language the more stuckup the people, the more familiar the language the more easygoing they are.Choose something you genuinely like, ans if you're on the hunt, switch places and try the next month. You will be stuck with those guys for years after all. If you're outgoing talk to everyone on the recess. Honestly if I wasn't a mess of anxiety and mental suffering I wouldn't be a virgin and would have a family already.
>>34632623If you're 25, that's kind of the last year you can date naturally a 18 year old, you're on fetish preference territory. Depending on your luck you will be set, but as you get older girls will start considering that mental barrier, first of the public shame, and once committment is on the table, of the ultimate future of the relationship. Keep her drunken in love and wonder so she doesn't even think about it. Good luck anon, you will need it.
>>34631100Can’t you just become a teacher? Or gym teacher? Or gymnastic trainer?
>>34632636To specify, I'm 22 and this already feels risky as hell. >>34632631I'm an American, and I live in a town with tons of Filipinos and Indians if that means anything. >>34632647I'm going to be substitute teaching in the fall but to mix work and pleasure like that is playing with a kind of fire that is WAY too fucking risky for me.
>>34632656Brother, your problem is you're not living for yourself. Risk of what, of going to jail? For talking to a 18 year old? For talking to a 16 year old and asking her to meet her parents? If you're looking out for your safety that's fine, but clearly you're hiding from shame coming from voices in glass tablets and tvs.Watch out, because that feeling is deeply rooted and isn't about dating underage girls at all, it's something that will keep clinging to your ass in any setting that involves people watching you.
>>34632690Yes, that's exactly what's happening. Even if legal consequences aren't there in a given situation, shame is still an incredibly powerful weapon. Call me a pussy or whatever, but I just can't handle the thought of my entire community turning against me.
>>34632647>Can’t you just become a teacher? Or gym teacher? Or gymnastic trainer?Depending on where you live, that can make it illegal. Here in the UK, for example, you can legally fuck a 16-year-old you aren't responsible for, but if you're in some kind of position of responsibility (e.g. you're a teacher and she's a pupil) then it's against the law unless she's 18, and fucking her at 17 will send you to prison. There can be other legal issues too. If a 16-year-old sends you nudes, for example, then legally that is child porn, and both she and you are committing a crime.
>>34634143This, the anon who suggested becoming a teacher just to fuck the students is flat out retarded
>>34632636>If you're 25, that's kind of the last year you can date naturally a 18 year oldI'll be 60 on my yacht, dating an 18 year old and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>34632690>For talking to a 16 year old and asking her to meet her parents?This wasn't OP, but me, I was the one that said this >>34631146Anyway.
>>34634172Yeah. There are all kinds of little legal wrinkles. You can get in real trouble for buying a 16-year-old alcohol, for example. And if you're in a "sugar daddy" relationship with someone under 18 in the UK you may well fall foul of the laws against underage prostitution: you can legally have sex at 16, but you can't be paid for it till you're 18.
>>34634143>>34634172>>34635019kys, pedosOnly pedos know this laws. No normal people would look this up. Same with age of consent. Anyone who memorizes such things, especially for different countries. Huge redflag. kys, pedos
>>34635094Since when was going for older teenagers pedo territory? Go suck your thumbs and watch Jidion you moralfag
>>34635019>>34634143How common is it for twenty-somethings to date 16-18 year olds across the pond?
>>34635094Hello Ranjesh.
>>34631100Brother have you ever spoken to 16 year olds? I don't know where you're from, but where I live they basically crave dick from grown men. I remember being in high school and none the girls were dating any of the boys because they were all hanging out with 20-something dudes.If it's legal where you are then I'm assuming it's a similar deal, so just go ahead. Don't hate the player hate the game
>>34635123Incredibly. USians seem to be the only people who moralfag about consent lawsEverywhere else it just happens and no one seems to really care unless the older guy is a racial minority
>>34635152I can definitely corroborate that, the 16s/17s I've talked to yearn for dudes like me in their early 20s. Once again, it's a matter of finding where they're at and how to make sure I'm not walking into a setup, cause those are unfortunately popular nowadays. >>34635156You're incredibly goddamn lucky to live in a country like that, here a 19 year old can't even date a 17 yaer old without running the risk of getting their head on a pike (this is only if you're a man of course, women always get away with more sexually to no one's surprise). You ever tried going for younger?
>>34635395>You ever tried going for younger?Yea it's piss easy. Just don't point out their age too much and treat them as if they're adults (even though you will realize very quickly they are just dumb teenagers no matter how they look). The only people who are gonna hate on you are probably just gonna be her parents and any of her male "friends" (dudes waiting to fuck).The point is to just keep that shit lowkey, like don't go around saying you're fucking a teenage bad bitch. Just do it, go along with your day and you'll be fine.
>>34635439You ever risked getting the cops getting called on yourself? Where do you find them at? And how do I avoid setups? Also I gathered this isn't the shit to brag about lmfao
>>34631100>>34632334>>34632293I hate so much this evil site full of demonic cockroaches degenerates fags like you. You all SO deserve to be tortured for weeks and then executed you disgusting parasites. You are really the worst inferior rotten devilish subhumans maggots scums of the fucking planet no doubt about it.>But it's le legal in my degenerate pedo-land!!!We don't care you're still filthy pedophiles. Thank goodness death exists. I just CAN'T wait for you all to die. You deserve SO much to be beaten to death. And if a hell exists i just CAN'T wait for demons to torture you in the worst possible way, you deserve SO much this shit for fuck sake.
>>34635462>Where do you find them at?I don't go hunting for them or something. I'll fuck any girl that looks pretty. You kinda just run across them, just go outside.>And how do I avoid setups?Use your head? If it sounds too good to be true it probably is.>>3463552516-17 year old girls nowadays are physically indistinguishable from women in their 20s. Their tits keep getting bigger and their asses keep getting rounder.I can't speak for the other guys you responded to but I'm attracted to any girl with a big ass and big tits, if she happens to be younger then I'm attract to her IN SPITE OF that, not BECAUSE of that
>>34631100In my country the age of consent is 14. I'm older than you and my urges are worse. I have self control and resist the urge, but to be honest, I only do that because I fear being stoned. I feel a little sad tho
>>34635525Cry all you damn please. 16s and 17s are quite literally not children any way you slice it. Mentally they've still got a lot to work on, but they're quite literally close enough to the age of majority where it doesn't fucking matter. These relationships have been normal for most of human history, get used to it>>34635530Alright, makes sense. Got any stories for us? Curious how this all went for you. >>34635537Where you from, man? How strong are your urges exactly? I totally relate, shame is a hell of a deterrent and I'm not looking to be killed out here. But damn, I've just met so many hot 16s and 17s, I fucking want them
>>34631100>go about this without getting stoned?Move to Alabama or Texass.
>>34635589Are you serious? Will that actually work?
>>34635582>Got any stories for us? Curious how this all went for you.I've successfully hit only twice so far.First time was with this girl I met at the beach, she was 17 at the time I think? Her eyes kinda lit up when she realized I was in my very early twenties. Took me maybe 2-3 weeks iirc2nd time me and a friend were smoking joints in a park near his house. These 2 girls come up with money in their hands to ask us to buy them a 6 pack of beer, so we do so and I get one of the girl's IG. We talk for a bit and I eventually came over to her house when her parents were outAlso one thing I will warn you is that girls nowadays take photos of EVERYTHING, even more than girls our age. To them it's not malicious and they just like taking photos, but they will probably never understand why you're stressed about it.But the upside is that they are very easily impressed by basic adult stuff, such as but not limited to:Having a carLooking like you have moneyDressing wellHygiene
>>34635582Nigger, you're talking like a rapist now. One thing is to come into contact with a minor during your daily business and nurture a relationship, another is to actively hunt them to fuck them, second is illegal wherever you go. It's illegal regardless of Age of Consent. Age of Consent allows relationships among minors of that age, or it's subsidiary to parent's consent. If an adult so much as touches a minor over age of consent or says he wants to fuck her without the consent of parents, it's statuory rape anywhere in the western world.
>>34635582>16s and 17s are quite literally not childrenSpoken like someone who hasn't interacted with a 16 year old since highschool
>>34636491>If an adult so much as touches a minor over age of consent or says he wants to fuck her without the consent of parents, it's statuory rape anywhere in the western world.I know this to be false in Canada. It's not true in most of Europe. I doubt it's even true for all of the USA.
>>34631100...>I have the urge to date a 17 year old girl, maybe 16, no younger than that though.That's such a specific age, anon. Why those two specific ages?>I'm an early twenties male.What do you even have in common with high schoolers anymore, anon? What are you gonna talk about with them, their math quiz coming up on Friday? How come an 18 year old isn't good enough for you?>Doesn't help that most girls that age are retarded and fall in love after five minutes.Why do you think it's generally considered so shameful, then? Like... do you think it might have something to do with how teenage prefrontal cortexes aren't fully developed so they can't really make responsible decisions and therefore cannot give informed consent?>And before moralfags start asking, yes it's legal in my jurisdiction but obviously still considered shameful.Ok.... so.... why are you asking us??? Why would you need to ask us for permission then?
>>34635094>No normal people would look this up.No need to look it up: I'm old enough to remember when that law was passed. It was quite controversial at the time, made headlines. There was a similar thing not long after when things like lolicon were legally reclassified as child porn. Again, controversial.
>>34635123>How common is it for twenty-somethings to date 16-18 year olds across the pond?Early 20s/18 is quite common; late 20s/16 will have people shouting "pedo!" at you in the street.
>>34636555There are reasons not to date minors, chiefly because sex with them is illegal, but the reasons you give are just not good reasons. If having things in common were a requirement to date, then nobody in 4chan should date because everyone here has exceptional circumstances. To say you cannot bond with people outside of pastimes sounds like explaining why there's so much shit parenting. The prefrontal cortex decision bullshit also sounds like comparing teens to literal retards. They are inexperienced, but they're not fucking drunk. I wonder if most people just can't remember life as teenagers. The barrier to integrate teens into adults will keep becoming more difficult to traverse as protectionism keeps going on the rise. Instead of putting teens in a bubble where some rapist like >>34636040 manages to pass through the gaps, how about promoting close trust parents and their children so the parents can assess the decisions the kid takes as they encounter them? Ahh, that implies putting responsibility in parenting and muh body muh choice implies you aren't responsible of life you bring.
>>34636610>some rapistLook man you might find it morally dubious but it's really not that big a deal where I come from. Basically everyone does it, because it's legal.You might be from a place that's used to 18 as the default so breathing in the general direction of anyone younger is anathema to you, but it's not like that everywhere in the world.And as I said it's not like I groom or target them specifically or some shit. I'm still very much attracted to women my age and vastly prefer them for an actual relationship.But if you put a girl in front of me with tits the size of her head, and she's legal, and she wants me? Yea I'm not gonna tell her to come back in a year or two (and even then you don't magically become smarter at 18).
>>34631100sorry OP but this post is incredibly stupid and you should not resort into a position where you'd be witch hunted over dating someone under the age of 18. that's my opinion but it's not worth the risk just saying, invest in looking for a milf mommy at this point
>>34632584>Lmfao does this actually work, for real?yes. we're all anonymous so you have no proof of anything here but i am pretty experienced with girls, and yes i've made a lot of fuck ups but i also got loads of girls, but i learned from my fuck ups and how i lost them. every time i got them i was just being fun, flirty, not trying to please them and instead just doing whatever i wanted. being a man, dominant, in charge, not pandering to them in any way. they loved it.as soon as i started trying to "fit into their schedule" they weren't interested. you either be a chad and maybe get the girl or do what she wants and be nice, then she will SAY she likes you but then never see you.you lead the way through the forest, she follows in your protection. it's all basic cave man shit and i can't believe people who want to get laid or get a gf still don't know it because all the info, it's all out there now, more than ever.
>>34631100You think it's bad now, it gets even worse in your 30's. I never gave them a passing glance in my 20's but at 35, my hormones are screaming for me to fuck some tight young ass that's barely legal
>>34636828This, every time I didn't give a fuck about a woman, it went great, on the flip everytime I tried to accommodate is when the cunt energy came out.
>>34631100Dont get in relationship with a 17 year old anon
