[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / s / t / u / v / vg / vm / vmg / vr / vrpg / vst / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k / s4s / vip] [cm / hm / lgbt / y] [3 / aco / adv / an / bant / biz / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / gd / hc / his / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / news / out / po / pol / pw / qst / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / vt / wsg / wsr / x / xs] [Settings] [Search] [Mobile] [Home]
Board
Settings Mobile Home
/adv/ - Advice

Name
Options
Comment
Verification
4chan Pass users can bypass this verification. [Learn More] [Login]
File
  • Please read the Rules and FAQ before posting.
  • AdBlock users: The default ruleset blocks images on /adv/. You must disable AdBlock to browse /adv/ properly.
  • Are you in crisis? Call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at +1 (800) 273-8255.

08/21/20New boards added: /vrpg/, /vmg/, /vst/ and /vm/
05/04/17New trial board added: /bant/ - International/Random
10/04/16New board for 4chan Pass users: /vip/ - Very Important Posts
[Hide] [Show All]


Janitor acceptance emails will be sent out over the coming weeks. Make sure to check your spam folder!


[Advertise on 4chan]


File: 1767062915597978.jpg (129 KB, 709x757)
129 KB JPG
>What is /htgwg/?
How to Get Women General is by men, for men, about women, so bring all of your questions about getting and dealing with women here. Some anons on this site actually get laid, and some of them even want to help. If you're trying to meet and date women, then this is the place to ask questions, seek advice, and share experiences. We know how hard it can be. We got you bro.

>What is /htgwg/ not?
These threads are NOT for whining, moping, incels, volcels, MGTOW, hopelessness, or demoralization. We're all aware that meeting and dating women is hard today, and even harder for some, but /htgwg/ is for trying to overcome the challenges. IGNORE the posters who complain, give up, or insist there's nothing they can do. This site has other boards and threads that they can pollute. BE SMART: Spot the bait, don't reply, and DON'T WASTE TIME ARGUING WITH THEM!

>How to ask for advice
Context is important: be more specific than "This girl ghosted me, why?" We can't help if we don't know the situation, so try to provide as much (useful) info as possible ("I was at the bar, this chick was checking me out..."). What's your relationship with the girl? How long have you known her? Any conversation screenshots? Etc... Don't forget to ask an actual question.

>Resources and Books
https://wingman.live/ (AI dating coach)
https://pdfcoffee.com/318797392-mark-manson-models-2016pdf-4-pdf-free.html
https://archive.org/details/robert-glover-no-more-mr-nice-guy-id-353324692-size-612
https://www.youtube.com/@YourWingmam
https://www.doctornerdlove.com/blog/
https://pastebin.com/7U5Sdhwq (Leykis 101)
https://dokumen.pub/why-women-deserve-less-firstnbsped-1467978302-r-1917433.html
https://www.fantasticanachronism.com/p/how-to-be-good-at-dating
(new suggestions with working links are welcome)

REMEMBER: It's good to read and prepare, but don't overdo it. Get off this site: go learn and build up your social skills by meeting actual women in the real world.

Previous: >>34619086
>>
5pm notice
women are too tired from work to shit test. GET OUT THERE.You don't have a choice.
>>
>>34633607
Do I buy one off of ebay or amazon?
>>
>>34632396
I changed the picture of my bike to a first person POV video of me riding my bike.
Also changed the sperging part to "The way to win me over is: by ranting to me about your interests, remembering details, beating me in a game of chess"
And in "I geek out on: Greek and Roman history, sports & sports statistics, math" I added "& whatever book I'm reading" (since I do read a lot).
I may change the "random fact that I love" to something else. I would like to hint that I'm fairly nerdy, but I'm weary of listing video games since I am trying to quit them (have hit very high ranks in several games like Overwatch, Marvel Rivals, Dota, Deadlock), and also weary of listing anime because I intuit a lot of women don't like that AND because I haven't really watched any for about a year or so.
Again, thanks for the advice.
>>
>>34627618
This anon returning. I asked her out and she said no after all of that obvious flirting and her friends and everything. This is probably one of those very few moments in my life where the "oh it's just some signals. You're just misreading it" is so obviously not the case. I mean she was literally keekeeing at everything I said an hour ago, without saying a single joke

I sort of wish I did what he said >>34628720 but oh well.

Anyways don't know what's happened there, but I'm just glad it's over at least for now and I finally move on from that nightmare.
>>
>>34633643
Your prompts aren’t hinting that you’re nerdy, they’re stating it outright. They sound like a good reflection of you, but they’re still nerdy. The kind of girl they would appeal to exists but isn’t very common. And when I say appeal I don’t mean she is into all that stuff, I mean she would appreciate that you’re into it. Chess, ancient history, sports stats and math will drop no panties.

Would it possible to hide your power level a bit? Come off as a normalfag with some nerdy tendencies instead of nerdy as fuck? Biking and hiking are hobbies girls actually appreciate, maybe talk more about them and pick up another if you can.
>>
>>34633635
work is a tough place to learn how to go about it but once you do it’s pretty easy and you get the pick of the litter.

getting women at work and in the club are inverse. in the club it is better to be direct and bold whereas at work there it is far more casual and you have to establish yourself before taking any direct action on a particular women.

the way for me at work was to talk to the older ladies. i did this out of straight boredom and they were fun to chat with. it doesn’t take long to get really friendly with them. the alliance between the sweet old crow at work and the genuine and shy nice guy is one as old as time.

nevertheless once you get in with an older woman at the workplace, they will rant and rave to every female about how she can’t believe you’re single and how charming and personable you are. they do an amazing job of elevating your value to potential prospects at work
>>
>>34633690
Yeah, that's why I added the boxing, motorcycle, and hiking stuff. To try to show I'm not just a shut-in anime-watcher dime-a-dozen video-game-playing CS major (I'm not studying CS).
>>
>>34633712
I just remembered that anon said to remove the boxing video. I agree but maybe keep a boxing photo. Probably less intimidating when there’s no sound or motion. Put it last.

Those hobbies are in your photos, not your prompts. Your prompts are just lists of your interests. One like that is fine but no more. You are more than your interests so hint at that.
>>
File: 150a.png (717 KB, 811x1024)
717 KB PNG
Reminder that she expects you to hit on her.

Beautiful women don't fuck cowards.
>>
>>34633884
trvke. i always wish i could hold their hand or any kind of physical contact on the first date, but i fear a bad reaction
>>
>>34633694
That's not just a bad idea, but man office women are tedious even if weirdly very attractive.
>>
>>34633694
This only works if you don't mention the fact you never had a girlfriend before. Just currently single. Do the former and word gets around and all your female coworkers get the ick. Don't ask me how I know.
>>
>>34633762
I decided to keep the boxing sparring video for now. Hopefully the nerdy grad student side cancels out any worries that I'm a future wife beater
>>
>>34633910
they’re just like normal women anywhere else
>>34633916
i can see this but this assumes you omit details about your life. it’s easy to dodge personal questions life that. no one should know your sex life at work. the key to work pull is balancing mystery and reputability.
>>
File: how2talk.png (453 KB, 940x535)
453 KB PNG
>>
There's this girl I see a few times a week while working
She'll act all bubbly around me, make lots of eye contact, and make snacks for me
This has been going on for like a year now and I haven't made a move
What do? Feel like if I try anything it'll just make it weird
>>
There's a single event for meeting Japanese singles coming up. Looks like there's 20% female attendance but if you're a guy you have to pay. Do I go or will I die from my self-generated cringe?
>>
The way you know she likes you is if she goes out of her way as much as you go out of your way for her.
>>
I went on a social group nature walk today for the first time and met a girl about my age who was also there for the first time. She was cute and bubbly and we hit it off, she lives alone and is pretty introverted and wanted to more things to get herself out of the house. near the end of the walk i stupidly said Im part of another nature group. we exchanged numbers before we left and and she wants to be invited into the other group.
Shes pretty hot and i KNOW once she shows up to the other group every guy there will try to hit on her.

Anything I can to do to to see if shes interested in me before I have to fight 20 other men over her?
>>
>>34633610
dive bars or local ones around 5-7pm used to net me the most tail
they go solo after work

shame i quit drinking and haven't gotten laid in 2 years
>>
>>34634329
Nigga why did you do that? You need to intercept NOW before someone else takes her.
>>
>>34634339
wouldn't those women be hella blown out from drinking so often and letting strangers stretch their vaginas?
>>
>>34634347
Because she kept saying she wished she could do more outdoors activities, and my logical brain said to tell her about the activity group
How can i even intercept? the first thing she texted me was "hey anon it was nice meeting you tonight, can you send me the invite to the group when you get a chance"
>>
>>34634364
no really
they usually have 1-2 drinks and see if anything interesting happens and leave
most don't go everyday as well

i would already be drinking and just sit down next to them and it worked

the last girl i fucked there was 22 when i was 39
>>
>>34634379
hmm, ok well I hope it was fun
>>
>>34634166
what the fuck? go for it
>>
best strat for physical contact on first date?
>>
>>34634166
Not a fan of race mixing
>>
>>34634377
Just ask her on a date. NOW.
>>
>>34634166
>20% female attendance
So 5 guys for every girl? How would that be enjoyable
>>
>>34634398
Now? Isnt it too soon. Fuck I cant remember if she was going out of town this weekend or not. If I ask her for this weekend and Im wrong, shell realize I wasnt listening when she told me
>>
>>34634390
I'm flipping between what do I have to lose and this is a terrible idea.
>>34634421
I imagine all singles events have a terrible ratio.
>>
File: 1781723393863396m.jpg (60 KB, 715x1024)
60 KB JPG
What the best way to find and date older women? I'm a 21 year old khhv and a little bit of a hopeless romantic so I don't have much experience in dating
>>
>>34634364
I love the implied mechanics around this belief. A woman has sex with her husband 1000 times in 3 years = vagina is normal. A woman has sex with 100 strangers one time each in 3 years = vagina gets blown out. The vagina takes a DNA sample from each individual cock and maintains a census, and the higher the population gets, the more the vagina distorts itself to remember roast beef. It’s not the amount of sex but the number of individual dicks that have entered it that counts.
>>
>>34634508
How old are we talking
>>
>>34634426
Ask her on the date first with no timeframe. If she accepts say something like “can you remind me, are you out of town this weekend?”
>>
>>34634392
If it feels right,
>walk with her
>say “wait”
>kiss her
Walking with her is also an opportunity to guide her with your hand on her back. Not the entire time you’re walking but sometimes, like if you’re changing direction.
>>
>>34634550
it's more the implicit ickyness

one time I cheated, and an ex could tell something was different with the scent of my spit the day after

now go fuck a bunch of men and suck on their knobs?

uh oh stinkyy
>>
>>34634550
Correct, I'm glad you understand.
>>
File: 1781468938427091m.jpg (79 KB, 616x1024)
79 KB JPG
>>34634555
>How old are we talking
Late 20s/ early 30s
>>
>>34634593
Sounds unlikely. You don’t have the experience or money 30 year old men have. Why not date younger?
>>
>>34634583
Vagina clean themselves.
>>
>>34634561
As in ask her tomorrow for a weekend date? Im not used to moving this fast
>>
File: 1738968988697237.jpg (281 KB, 828x788)
281 KB JPG
>send girl phone pic of tonight's moon
>say the moon looks nice tonight despite the picture quality
>ask if she's more of a full moon type of person
am i doing it right?
>>
>>34634639
You gotta change your mindset or you are destined for her friend zone while you watch Chad fucking her on a nature hike.
Everything you've posted indicates she's interested. She wants you to be fucking man and invite her out on a date. Let her know right away you are more than just interested in a friendship. Stop with the fears and show confidence and determination to her.

A.B.C.
Always Be Closing
>>
>>34634749
Have you fucked the bitch, if no, then you're not even close to doing it right
>>
>>34634339
this never works for me. i only ever get roastie bartenders. do you live near rich people or something? i try this all the time to see what straggles into the bar but its always a disappointment and i always end up flirting with the bartender to no avail
>>
>>34633607
mindset reminder:
see a pretty girl? want to ask a girl out? no! speak to her to see if she is worth asking out. vet her. interview her. you are seeing if she is good enough to spend your money on. you are seeing if she is good enough to even be around. she may look nice, but those looks hide dishonesty, disloyalty and evil. you are not asking her out, you are checking to see if she's evil or not.
>>
>>34634074
>What do? Feel like if I try anything it'll just make it weird
be chill about it, it may, but things only get as "weird" as you let them, people are worried about this and that and "when can i touch her!?"
when you want to. that is the mindset of a confident, calm chad.
it's best to be indirect, ask her to come hang out at a social thing with you. or just say like "hey i get a good vibe from you, i'm free X day/time if you wanna hang out?"
don't want to make it awkward? just be chill and give her normal, inoffensive ways out. and remember to hold frame.
>>
Does Hinge stop showing you to new people if you change those filters for preferences?
>>
>>34634749
You're not cool enough to be this corny
>>
File: 345.png (86 KB, 355x354)
86 KB PNG
hehe
>>
>>34635042
Adjust to your own filters when swiping but then leave everything on back again, else you'll get the old roasties not to match on you (if you set 18-26 age as exclusive all the old bitches won't see you at all, thus receiving less likes)
>>
>>34634767
I was gonna have coffee this morning but then i remembered coffee is for closers

Is it a bad idea to suggest the date at a place shes already been to but I havent? She used to live in the same area of the city as me and told me that theres some nice lakefront trails added since then.

>Hey mary, do you want to join me for a park walk on saturday? I want to check out the lakefront path that you told me about yesterday, it sounds great.
or
>Hey mary, I'm going to be in the city on saturday at the Park, interested in joining me for a little walk? We can go see the new lakefront path you told me about too.
>>
>>34635077
maybe, but i'm at least good-looking
>>
>>34635239
You better hope she thinks that
>>
File: cornball.jpg (348 KB, 1080x1725)
348 KB JPG
>>34634749
>>
>>34635214
#1 is less cringe than #2 but they both suck. I can feel your desperation and fear in both.
Just ask her out. If a chick is interested she'll just say yes. You don't need some huge scenario to be set up where you tell her all those details.
>>
>>34635261
Thanks anon. texting is not my strong suite, i do much better with people i meet in person that I can talk to.you think something like this is better?

>hey mary wanna hang out on saturday?
>>
>>34635082
kek
>>
>>34635272
NTA but that’s too vague. I would go
>Hey, do you want to go for a walk on Saturday? I want to check out the lakefront trail you mentioned
>>
>>34634865
never hit on bartenders really only women getting off work
try a different bar
can be hit or miss even once you find a good bar but i was an alcoholic at the time
>>
>>34635310
damn i really need help with my black and white thinking lol. thats much better, thank you anon.
>>
>>34635332
yw
>>
>>34633607
Girl I never spoke to in my class came and sat next to me after an exam asking how I did then we spent 5 minutes comparing answers. Then she asked me what exams I had left, wished me luck and left. Is this a sign of interest or am I retarded? I won't see her again until next semester in like 3 months so not sure what the next move is.
>>
>>34635354
she doesn't think you're an ugly freak
did you get any laughs? thats the easy green light signal
>dont be afraid to make jokes
>dont be afraid to walk them back if they dont land
>>
>>34635354
no a lot of people do this so they can feel better about how they did on the exam
>>
>>34635354
no, when women are interested, they make it painfully clear
>>
>>34635354
That just means she tolerates your presence. Its a better platform than being a nobody, but you should try and get a few laughs out, flirt a little and observe her reactions. If she reciprocates and keeps eye contact with positive body language after flirting, then I would ask for number or what she's doing later.
>>
What's the largest distance you guys are willing to tolerate when sending likes on dating apps? I live near a large city, that is about 1.5-2 hours away, so a lot of the women I see are in those cities. But I worry the distance is too inconvenient.
Preferably among those of you looking for a long-term relationship.
>>
>>34635436
I happen to live in a fairly big city surrounded with smaller towns and I had women travel by car or by train to see me. One of these girls I've dated for two months and never once visited her hometown. In fact, I always schedule first dates right next to my place (like 10 minute walk from my aparatment). My point is, you don't want to put that much effort early on because most of the time it's just not worth it. The capital city is like 1,5 hours away by train but I absolutely don't see myself travelling for almost 4 hours just to have a date.
>>
>>34635450
Are you a chad or chad-lite? I get the feeling that as neither of those I have to be less stringent. My town is fairly small, less than 200k, so I can quickly swipe through all the available profiles and get no matches
>>
>>34635436
fine for dating
more than an hour away isn't great for a relationship
plenty of people start dating and then move
>>
>>34635436
I only travel 45' max (one way) for top pussy, everything else is a waste of time as >>34635450 stated.
It's just not worth the effort to have a travel time of 1 hour one way and make it 2 with return for a first date, you need to assume things are going to go wrong most of the time, or girls flake later on in the interaction.
Ideally 10-30 min is the sweet spot for one way travel.
Date tomorrow, 10' travel one way.
Saturday is 20-30' by car, vs 45' with train (taking train since it's cheaper, no parking costs etc).
>>
>>34635436
I am so pathetically alone that I will tolerate any distance if I can drive it.
>>
>>34635535
and yet you don't even cold approach at cold-approach-hour >>34633610. I know cus I didn't see you out on the boulevard
>>
>>34635320
the bartenders have ever been the only ones worth it. i go about the same hours. i’ve been fucking this one bartender right by my house and i knew it was a mistake but she’s divorced 40 something with decent body good face. i try to not drive much if at all so im limited in what i can do. i’ll go more often at those times. what kind of area are you in? rich? i only ever see hot milf women at dive bars in rich areas
>>
File: 1436572090243.jpg (8 KB, 249x243)
8 KB JPG
4 more days until my next date with this girl I really like.
>>
>>34635608
a small town bar a little outside of a tourist town (beach). its very small but also a lot of people live in the town and drive to work. wish i liked 40 year old women... living the dream
>>
File: 1754799861001625.png (1.25 MB, 1709x1440)
1.25 MB PNG
>>34635630
she's posting on foid forum with cat pics talking about you anon
>>
>>34635630
I'm happy for you anon, genuinely.
>>
>>34634329
>Anything I can to do to to see if shes interested in me before I have to fight 20 other men over her?

Nigga she's already interested in you. You don't need ro fight off 20 other dudes. Literally just be yourself and keep talking to her. You think she's gonna get smitten by someone she just met? She's probably not even that in to you to begin with. Just fucking take it slow, treat her like a human and ask her out when you feel like it's right.
>>
>>34635710
wrong as fuck, if i see a girl with a beta my predator instinct switches on

>>34634329
add her to the groupchat or whatever, but you have to do something 1on1 asap
build the intimate relationship before you test its strength around other boys
>>
File: 1781462012809035.png (141 KB, 1931x2580)
141 KB PNG
>>34634624
>Sounds unlikely. You don’t have the experience or money 30 year old men have. Why not date younger?
I always felt more comfortable around older people growing up compared to people my age plus as the saying goes "wine is better age".
>>
>>34635698
Thank you
>>
>>34635710
>>34635721

im in a bind right now because i asked the group owner to add her but he hasnt done yet, probably wont do it till after work. i cant ask her out on a date yet until she gets added otherwise shes gonna think I tricked her into getting her number.

whats the latest I should wait to ask her for a saturday date, does it need to be before the end of today?
>>
>>34635773
Yeah it does. 2 days notice for a weekend date is a bit late already actually. Also just tell her you asked the group owner to add her if you’re worried she might think she got tricked.

Also use AI to help you out here. Give it screenshots and tell it any concerns you have. We’re great but slow to reply.
>>
>>34635790
huh i never used AI for relationship help, I guess its worth a try.
but youre right either way I'll send her a message tonight asking her to go out on saturday. sunday is going to be rainy all day so thats a no-go. as i said earlier she may be going out of town this weekend so it could be moot anyway
>>
I like girls but they don't like me
>>
>>34635256
turns out you were doing it right, i think the secret is to do almost anything but be a chad about it, be confident and forward, and you win. somewhat counter intuitive but that's how it is.
>>
>>34635804
>huh i never used AI for relationship help
i found it to be massively helpful but only when i told it to act like a specific dating coach or specific online person, e.g read/watch all of hoe_math's posts and videos and respond to me as though you are hoe_math (i linked his twitter/X directly)
got some invaluable advice that actually changed my life.
>>
>>34635851
yeah im learning that now, the text messages its proposing to me is way over the top. I rarely use AI so i need to learn how to get it to act a certain way. Just a little while ago I was invited to go to the beach this saturday with some friends at 3pm. I asked AI if I could work that into the text.
AI told me this lol:
>"Hey! Just a quick heads up, I pinged the group admins but they’re usually a bit slow to approve new numbers, so I’ll let you know when that goes through. I'm actually heading into the city this Saturday to catch up with some friends at the beach around 3. I'm going to head in early to check out the riverwalk first, and I'd love it if you came with me! Are you free around 1pm?

Too obviously ai, but if I were to say it I'd say something like.
>Hey Mary, I let Kevin know to add you to the group, you should be in soon. Do you want to go for a walk on Saturday? I want to check out the lakefront trail you mentioned. I'm meeting up with some friends at Sheridan beach around 3 but I'll be spending some time in [your area] before that.

Its a mouthful but it does show that I'm doing other social activites and that way if she does agree and it the walk doesnt go well, there's no expectation that its going to drag on all day. Otherwise Id just say
>Hey Mary, I let Kevin know to add you to the group, you should be in soon. Do you want to go for a walk on Saturday? I want to check out the lakefront trail you mentioned.
>>
>>34635630
Yesterday it was 5 more days
Tomorrow it will be 3 more days

What are you two gonna get up to? I recommend sushi dinner and a long walk in the sun after.
>>
Loving women was never meant to be easy, but they are human beings who make mistakes and have flaws like anyone else. If you can't look past their flaws and forgive them for their mistakes, do not get a girlfriend.
>>
Find a woman with similar level flaws as you and work together to free each other from them
>>
File: 1752313287659006.png (809 KB, 798x1011)
809 KB PNG
If the devil offered you the opportunity to kill your desire for women (including killing your libido), would you take it?
What if he then said you could keep that energy and life-force that otherwise came-from/was-used-towards women, but it was directed towards other vectors in life (e.g. career, hobbies, music, art, intellectual pursuits, gym, sports, world conquest etc.)?
>>
>>34635968
Absolutely.
>>
>>34635968
>replace desire for women with desire for skills

i feel like some men already do this, devil not needed
>>
>>34635968
Nah if my love and desire for women was killed, I'd just be a whiney slob demanding people respect me. It wouldn't be the same. Because then the college education I have wouldn't be there because I wanted to impress a girl, the structure I got from feminists wouldn't be there, the social skills I have now would be gone, my self-esteem would go downwards from being alone too often, I'd be angry at the world too much, and a lot of other things. Pretty much someone who is dependent on the government and on his parents.
>>
File: 1774817833896776.png (648 KB, 1000x1600)
648 KB PNG
Are county/state courthouses good spots to meet low inhibition, trashy but qt chicks? I have a theory they may be a hidden gem.
>>
>>34634436
>I imagine all singles events have a terrible ratio.
Not true. Some are 50-50.

Don't go to one with a shit ratio, it will be a whole bunch of guys hitting on a few girls.
>>
>>34636038
>the worst people on bad days
nigga.
>>
File: smug pepe.jpg (33 KB, 657x527)
33 KB JPG
>>34636152
Does that not mean they'll have a lot of anger to let loose on my penis? Also what if they're just there to accompany their druggy families or if their boyfriends are being sentenced to prison?
>>
>>34635773
just call her and ask if she wants to do something together
for the same reason you got her number: she might be cool
texting is dogshit and to be avoided at all costs
>>34635885
im not even going to read that shit coz its feminine behaviour
bitches like men coz we do stuff and sometimes bring them along
>>
>>34636207
>heavily used goods
>>
File: 1781495142742172.jpg (80 KB, 798x720)
80 KB JPG
>have no issues with spilling spaghetti with random girls
>they like me, exchange socials etc
>go total retard mode when its one I actually like
I know its a common occurrence for most people but I think its over for me, rarely do I ever want to ask someone out and when I do I just turn into a nervous freak. I don't want to date or be in a relationship just for the sake of it so I never bother to hit up the women I've made friends with. I'm throwing in the towel
>>
File: pepe very smug.jpg (60 KB, 588x609)
60 KB JPG
>>34636348
Better one of us is experienced, hehe
>>
>>34635885
>i need to learn how to get it to act a certain way.
it's a great tool to help you avoid pitfalls and keep your replies strong and not off-putting.
i often ask it to make replies more concise, or sound like where ever you are from. they often come out as very "cool" and american.
i like to ask it to rate my suggested replies from 1 to 10 and critqiue them. sometimes it is cutting but importantly insightful, helped me see a lot of errors i was making.
>>
>>34636352
go in with the mindset that you are going to fuck it up. you have already lost. know it, but go in anyways, be honest with yourself. then suddenly you find your confidence.
>>
>>34635968
why the devil? that's literally a commandment from god.
I'm honestly sick of this shitty society, i don't want to stop being horny, i want a wife.
>>
>>34636398
good to know. i sent the message to her a little while ago. i'll see what she says. even if its a no I hope she would respond
>>
>>34635936
women are retarded and annoying period
>>
>>34636403
>go in with the mindset that you are going to fuck it up. you have already lost. know it, but go in anyways, be honest with yourself. then suddenly you find your confidence.
maybe I'll try that. Just feels like a subconscious thing I can't really get around, not just the spilling spaghetti with the girls I actually like but the fact that I don't bother pursuing anyone else.
>>
>>34636048
What's the worst that can happen? Worst case scenario I waste an evening I was going to waste anyway.
>>
At what point is society going to stop frothing at the mouth over age gaps? I’m 31, are 18-25 year olds really that concerned over this stuff?
>>
File: 1713929209331314_adv.png (219 KB, 1156x1032)
219 KB PNG
>>34636630
>frothing
if she isnt concerned, her friends surely will try to talk her out of it
>>
File: 1781743382808188.jpg (67 KB, 640x640)
67 KB JPG
In what social situations is it acceptable to ask a girl out?

How do I "build up" to asking a girl out?
>>
>>34636657
If only because they want to fuck you too. I know this from experience. It’s “weird” until they’re doing it too.
>>
>>34636561
Both men and women and this entire world including me is retarded and annoying.
>>
>>34636611
>Worst case scenario I waste an evening I was going to waste anyway
Life's too short to willing waste time, anon.
>>
>>34636755
So what should I be doing instead?
>>
>>34636804
You know what I take back what I say. Go after girls anon. Try to find hot girls. But try to find hot smart girls, and be weathered from every experience you have trying to get them until one day you become the man of their dreams and they are all over you.
>>
File: IMG_3604.jpg (237 KB, 1174x1776)
237 KB JPG
>>34635932
Well we were going to play Mario Kart 64 at my place then have sex for the first time, but she just turned into a cunt out of nowhere. Seriously we had a near perfect date on Sunday and scheduled the next one on the spot, but she spent the evening sending vague texts an hour apart and refused to call to talk about whatever her problem is. My infatuation just evaporated.
>>
>>34637351
>exhibit A
what a fucking cunt
sorry this chick became some neurotic/bpd person making stuff up
>>
>>34637361
Dude I know. If you had asked me what her flaws were before today I wouldn’t have been able to name even one. She was just fucking perfect in every way. Was.
>>
File: 1781843222579.png (456 KB, 799x2501)
456 KB PNG
>>34637366
If its any comfort, similar thing happened to me recently. I was seeing this girl for 2 weeks and then I broke it off after this. Too exhausting.
>>
>>34637386
Do you really not realize how insensitive you are being here?
>>
>>34634392
if sitting, sit next to her, not across
if standing/walking, get a bit closer than you normally would
light touching (shoulder, arm)
escalate (lower back, hand)
gauge reaction and go for it
you don't have to kiss her, you can hold her hand or put your arm around her shoulder for a while first

remember, all this is natural and the more normal you are while doing all this, the better it works. you'll probably suck at first, but practice makes perfect
>>
>>34637386

Hey dumbass, she told you she was on her period. You're supposed to be attentive to that and show her you care and be willing to make her soup n'shit at her place.
>>
>>34637949
Do you just grab her hand?
>>
>>34638089
just don't touch her
you don't need to
perhaps guiding her by the arch of her back through a door is enough

if you can't tell if she's into you, you don't have enough experience to touch a girl
they make it obvious
and when that's the case all you have to do is find a quiet place no one's around and you can kiss her
>>
>>34637351
>>34637386
You have to stop texting so much dude wtf. They switch on a dime like this because they have this thing in their brain that goes off when they feel you are texting the too much. It’s not even a joke.

This is example to everyone to not text this much. When you text this much it leads exactly to this, where you guys have fucked up communication. Save the talking for the date. Let the tension build.
>>
File: 1780740086899790.png (336 KB, 680x763)
336 KB PNG
I blame men for these ridiculous low effort profiles women have. Seemingly the average profile has 6 words (some combination of travel, margs, yearn, bugs, dogs, laugh, biceps, tall), for women in their early and mid 20s. This is probably because a large portion of men just swipe on any mildly pretty face, or maybe even any non-fat girl. So these women don't feel like they need to try at all as they still get hundreds of likes. This is further supported by the strong negative correlation between looks of the girl, and effort/words in the profile.
Meanwhile 95% of these profiles just give me nothing to work with, or to discern if I may like this girl beyond her looks. And as someone who is fairly eccentric and "picky" (I know I won't get along with normal women), that means my swipe right rate is definitely under 1%. But as a non-chad with, say, a 1% return-like rate, that leaves me at say <0.01% match rate, I.e. less than 1 in 10,000. Owari da. It's over. Se acabo. E finito. Es ist vorbei.
>>
>>34638096
This dude is right, plus both of them are zoomers right?
They get bored very easily. Keep texting to a minimal only for date logistics. Better to play it cold and cool than spill your spaghetti like a retard.
>>
So I ended up going out alone and I think overall it turned out OK and it was a fun time.
The ratio was terrible, like 15 guys per girl, but I somehow still got wingwoman'd into talking with a girl the whole night and ended up with her number and we left together and got food.

I feel really shallow for saying this but while she was cutish she wasn't the best nor the worst looking in the room, and I'm not really sure if I want her to be my gf based purely on looks. I think my weakness is that sometimes I can be pressured into being with girls I don't really see a future with because I don't know a polite way to say no. We will see if she messages me, I don't think I will go out of my way to message her first desu. Of course that could be major mistake and she is the best I could ever get, which is a problem I always have in the back of my mind.

I do feel a boost to my confidence though, there was some minor spaghetti spillage but nothing too noticeable. I'm so glad I wasn't one of the countless wallflowers I saw staring daggers at us the whole night.
>>
>>34638096
>>34638181

She literally told him what was wrong and none of you get it. Amazing and incredible.
>>
>>34638157
While you're right, people still get matches and have dates. it's a difficult game but not impossible
>>
>>34638262
>Girl that states we speak 2 different languages
>Period girl asking for more affection on a fun proposal to work it together.
Yeah women really are out there giving you clues on what they mean.
Both are retarded bitches
>>
File: IMG_7207.jpg (311 KB, 1032x1452)
311 KB JPG
Bros i also just matched with what I consider a 10/10 Muslim whore.
Problem she lives in Valencia Spain.
She's 24. Literally would go and try to breed her.
>>
File: IMG_7208.jpg (203 KB, 875x1429)
203 KB JPG
>>34638321
Would drop half my networth to get divorced raped by her and put some Muslims low iq sandpeople in this earth
>>
>>34638321
>>34638323
Where do you live? But anyway yeah, I don't like race mixing or leading women on.
>>
>>34638093
>if you can't tell if she's into you, you don't have enough experience to touch a girl
shit advice, how is he supposed to learn then. this stuff is trial and error. besides, sometimes girls don't even know themselves until you try something
>>34638089
just go for it
>>
>>34637920
please elaborate
>>
File: IMG_7209.jpg (391 KB, 1206x1976)
391 KB JPG
>>34638365
I'm in NL.
We added each other in Instagram she has the stilly amount of 12k followers and liked all my pics and follows me atm kek.
I'll make exceptions for these boobs. But yeah probably nothing is gonna happen. Though i visit BCN often and Valencia is just next to it.
Also she gives me high maintenance vibes, so i would need to be a beta simp for her.
>>
File: 1756419450053258.png (370 KB, 460x548)
370 KB PNG
>>34638398
>these boobs
>>
>>34636524
>>34636398

She responded this morning, She said she cant do this weekend but is open for a day after work next week and asked me to let her know a day. Looks like I still got a chance bros.
>>
>>34638551
if she's not too tired from weekend fun

keep swiping, have a few extra plates available
>>
>>34638568
This is someone I met in person at a nature walk, not a dating app match. I'm not on any apps right now
>>
>>34638585
Then keep swiping irl
>>
>>34638591
Thanks bro
>>
>>34638096
>4 texts in two days
>a lot
What’s the max then? 1 text per day average?
>>
>>34638737
I think he means water it down to logistics and simple thoughts only.

Instead of "do you still wanna meet?" say "see you at 6pm (:" It gives her neurotic mind less to chew on.

But of you want a great woman, who loves you, she won't be a neurotic freak
>>
>>34638788
We didn’t agree on a day or time last week so that wouldn’t have worked. Agree on the neurotic freak thing but since that’s her only strike I’m willing to keep trying.
>>
File: 1781888176501.jpg (428 KB, 1280x1280)
428 KB JPG
>>34638882
yes, keep going at it
you'll know for sure in person
>>
>>34638181
>keep texting to date logistics
literally this. cant do much more than this
>>34638262
>she him whats wrong
kek
>>34638737
its less the amount of texting and more the subject. if its not about planning to meet up then its too much ime

i keep my texting dry and quick especially in the beginning and i avoid all attempts at humor, sarcasm, irony, getting to know her etc as we will do that on the date. also, they WILL misinterpret most of what you say via text as there is no body language involved and they barely know you yet. also, when you keep it dry, it signals that you are not that into her which is a good thing. most women want a guy they cant get or who they perceive to have options and texting minimally in this way implies that and also implies that you have better things to do than chat with a stranger on your phone all day
>>
>>34638788
this guy knows.
>>
>>34638910
Half of those texts were about planning to meet up and the only reason I got off that subject was that she was sending vague shit. Are you sure you’re not giving me canned advice that doesn’t apply here?
>>
>>34638934
reading the messages it just seemed like there was a previous conversation. if there really wasn’t then i would say the last thing that you do is try convince her to meet up. instead copy what she’s saying to you.

if i got a weird text like that i wouldnt answer her for like a week and then when i did i would agree with her and say yeah i like you but the vibes were totally off or something. leave it vague and like she was the problem.
>>
>>34638990
>i wouldnt answer her for like a week
>leave it vague and like she was the problem
lmao stacy hands typed this
>>
>In a voice call with female friend
>very in her feminine, acting bubbly, sometimes laughs for little to no reason, loves all my jokes, the silence after a good laugh has the same energy as a lingering eye contact
>friend joins
>starts being annoying to her
>that instantly goes away, starts acting like her usual self if a bit defensive

If she weren't gay I'd be pretty convinced there's a little something between us as this happens semi regularly, I def noticed she cares about how I view her when he's being annoying to her
>>
>>34639220
Lesbians don't exist, it's a defense mechanism from unhealed trauma around men.
>>
>>34639223
I half agree, she's done and said a lot of things that's got me nearly fully convinced we're into each other, but then will say and do others things that make me not want to take the leap, like irritation at guys hitting on her after telling them she's gay



[Advertise on 4chan]

Delete Post: [File Only] Style:
[Disable Mobile View / Use Desktop Site]

[Enable Mobile View / Use Mobile Site]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.