I just turned 20 and the more I think about it the more it seems i have nothing to look forward to in life. I have no aspirations or hobbies. My face is a grotesque genetic failure. The last time I had friends was highschool and they never invited me to anything, just begrudgingly tolerated me during the school day. Ive tried changing my personality throughout my life and the result was always terrible, just in different ways.The last 2 years have just been the exact same day on repeat. Wake up, go to work, go to gym, play video games, go to sleep, repeat. I really want a normal life with a few close friends and a wife but my face predisposes everyone I meet to hate me before I even open my mouth. The same uncomfortable grimace people make when they have to talk to me grinds away a bit of my soul each time I see it. Its even worse from relatives. I can't imagine living another 40-60 years like this.So yeah do I just fucking end it?
>>34634856>My face is a grotesque genetic failure.So are the vast majority of faces. Unless your airways are functionally impacted, your face is genetically adequate, especially in reference to the wider population.>I really want a normal life with a few close friends and a wife but my face predisposes everyone I meet to hate me beforeSo you want the appearance of normalcy, rather than the actual merit of what normalcy achieves (reproduction, resources for offspring to then also reproduce). There's your problem. Stop doing things to "appear" normal and do things because there's actual merit or function behind it.
>>34634856>So are the vast majority of faces.I'll go into specifics to be more convincing. My nose is as wide as my mouth. My jaw and chin are almost nonexistent. My neck is twice as long as a normal persons, and unnaturally thin, even after an entire year of hypertrophy targeting training. I have short face syndrome, despite having a huge forehead. My forehead is actually so large it gave the illusion of me having a receding hairline as a child. And now my hairline has actually started receding at the ripe age of 20. My front profile is already bad, but my side profile is pure ropefuel.There's a certain baseline where you can still easily make friends as long as you're a chill guy. I can't even reach this.
>>34634891Pics or didn't happenSo basically recessed face? Well you can morphometrically analyse it and decide if it's worth passing these genetics down or if you should just pursue something else in life. Like providing for other family members and being uncle or just contributing to things that help the world in other ways.Making friends just to make friends is a pointless pursuit. You have the goal you're pursuing, whether it's helping the world in some way like science, economy, law, charity, whatever, and you make friends along the way since having those friends helps with the goal. You don't just make friends just to "appear normal" which seems to be what you're still trying to achieve, which is arbitrary and not a constructive pursuit.
>>34634900When you put it like that, it makes me realize there really is no point. I know what to do now thx
>>34634926Sure. There never was one other than whatever configuration we happened to land. If that still rings pointless then so be it.
>>34634856Would you befriend someone like yourself?
>>34634856>my face predisposes everyone I meet to hate me before I even open my mouthI haven't even finished reading and I already know there's going to be lots of people saying it's not your face and giving ridiculous reasons for why you're miserable right now. Don't listen to them, they're trying to gaslight you. They also have nothing to show. They just want you to be eternally here with them because they can't improve their looks, so they don't want you to do it too. Being handsome is the easiest way to ascend your social life. Handsome people don't have to put in any effort besides looking good. You should try it. Gym is useless cope, and it's going to make you look older and kill you slowly, vidya is cope, robbing you of your time, you have the sensation you're achieving something when in reality, you didn't achieve anything. Imagine if you placed this time playing vidya towards learning a skill... Can't cry over spoiled milk, you need to do something, RIGHT NOW!
>>34634861>>34634900>>34634946Shut the fuck up, you fucking retard.
>>34634926>I know what to do now thxDon't kill yourself, OP, this namefagg is an absolute retard. Just looksmax, he is confusing genotype with phenotype, just because your gene expressions are bad doesn't mean your genes are. It just means you grew up eating ultra processed food, bad habits, allergies... A huge butterfly effect that disfugred you and impeded you from having a good gene expression. You can absolutely looksmax and pass on your genes, and this time, make sure to acquire enough knowledge to prevent your kids from ending up the same.
>>34635164Thank you for your highly valuable contribution to the thread.>>34635171Honestly it's debatable. It's completely confounding so it could be either genotype or phenotype. Either way, to assert it all as phenotype is major cope.Plus I wasn't being utterly defeatist, since dysgenic people reproduce all the time. As said, you can find someone uglier than you to reproduce with easy. I was just prodding OP to reconsider what he values so highly because it looks like he cares more about having the appearance of normalcy/"health" rather than the actual merit of normalcy/"health".
>>34635190>you can find someone uglier than you to reproduce with easy.You want to create a world full of dysgenic people perpetuating suffering.>to assert it all as phenotype is major cope.I never said everything is phenotype, I said he has too see for himself, if he has Native European genes, I doubt the problems lie there, certainly if he looks at his father, and grandparents, he will see what he would look like if he wasn't utterly destroyed by his diet and the poor choices of his parents.>merit of normalcy/"health".No such a thing. These are things you're handed down, you didn't earn them, there's no merit.
>>34634856Brother you have no idea how many times I've seen an absolute alien looking nigga with a total dime piece. A straight Freiza looking mf hanging around with a supermodel.It's possible, you can do it man. Don't let life defeat you. If you end it now you prove to everyone and yourself that you're a complete pussy and that everything you have gone through up until this point is for nothing.So get up, keep doing the same shit, keep being bored, keep having no idea what you're gonna do with your life.Take it step by step and day by day, and I promise you shit gets better twin. You just gotta keep your head up and your back straight.
>>34635226Word.
>>34635220Well getting someone who mogs you slightly but still suboptimal is also possible. And every other possibility is possible too. And lots of dysgenic people are blissfully ignorant, suffering less and breeding more.The merit being the actual function of it. Normalcy in say like friends and having a wife is for functional purposes like reproducing, having kids, finding a mate, finding better opportunities and jobs, better methods, resource access etc. meanwhile OP just wants friends and a wife to "look normal" and that helps him sleep at night. No real utility.
>>34635264>Well getting someone who mogs you slightly but still suboptimal is also possible.You could try to marry and impregnate a masculine woman, but that's really counter-intuitive if you're a normal guy. That's the dilemma. Let's say you're 6' tall. You could try to find a giant russian mommy between 6'1-6'4 to give your sons an easier time. Or you could find your feminine counterpart that you're actually attracted to. It's a tough choice.
>>34635161Gym is not a bad cope. It will not get you girls, but it will prevent you from being a weakcel.
>>34634856Nice image
>>34634856I had some better times than highschool in my 20s and 30s but none in my 40s so maybe hold off on offing yourself for a decade or so
