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I'm low T and depressed and have no sex drive therefore whenever I interact with women it's strictly business. I don't try to socialize beyond the normal hello/goodbye.

Now, when I talk to women I always feel this air of malaise and discontent. Can women sense that you aren't high testosterone enough to want to have sex with them? and if they can, do they hate you for it?
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Yees and yes.

t. woman
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>>34636435
thanks
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>>34636421
Your lack of interest deflates their ego and indicates to them that they are low quality.
Essentially, you can insult women by not paying them attention.
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>>34636435
NTA, but why is that? Why are women this petty? I just don't want to be bothered.
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>>34636421
Yes, they can. Yes, they'll hate you for it
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>>34636421
You don't show women interest and they resent you for it.
I don't show women interest and they breathe a sigh of relief.
We are not the same.
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>>34636521
Nta.
>but why is that? Why are women this petty? I just don't want to be bothered

I'm not a woman but I know the answer. It's because women are weak. They know they are weak and have always been the weaker sex. They average 5'4", their bodies are frail and muscles even more so. They instinctively know they are easily killed. So women seek 'security' with as much energy as men seek out pussy.

A woman sees her own attractiveness as security. If she is attractive it means she can secure a man. If she feels she can secure a man, she then feels secure in herself. If a man doesn't show attraction to her, she feels insecure like her life existence depended on it.

She doesn't even need to actually want the man. She could very well not be attracted to him at all. But she will still want and expect for him to be attracted to her. Because she wants to feel secure. The woman is a creature that always wants to feel this, especially when interacting with men.

The long and short of it is: Women need to feel safe and wanted so they don't have to feel neurotic. Women have always been like this, it's just their nature.

If you ever wondered why you dealt with a woman who seemed offended that you were attracted to her, yet also felt just as offended when you lost attraction for her, that's why. They want the benefit of being attractive to as many people as possible, but the luxury of being selective.
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>>34636648
>I'm not a woman
I thought so, women usually don't admit to this kind of stuff, it's similar to how they talk about personality, when everything they want is a handsome guy. I hate human nature tbf, but at the very least men are honest about how they feel. At least, most of the time, since hate speech laws have been fucking everybody in the ass.
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>>34636511
This. Especially if you are average or below average looking. They are used to average guys constantly jestering and flirting so when you show 0 interest it hurts their naturally narcissistic female nature.
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>>34636659
The irony is that if women were to boldly admit their nature, that they are extremely insecure and require validation to feel safe and secure, and even had the balls to admit they want it without desiring every man she talks to, that would at least be dignified. Women are annoying as fuck at times not because of the fact they are emotionally incontinent glorified children constantly in need of security, but it's when they act like us men don't know and have always known that about them. The stupid passive aggressive backhanded games they play to hide this about themselves is what pisses most people off.

Like dating scene for example she doesn't like a guy she tried to meet with? Date wasn't good? The girl either ghosts or makes a long tired speech about how she likes the guy but not enough to date further. Total bullshit. If the woman just said "I'm not into you." That'd be simple and clean and men can respect that.

But nah. Apparently women hate blunt honesty
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>>34636659
>>34636669
>Continued

The personality thing is true btw. If there's one thing I can confirm albeit as a man, but one with lots of experience with women, they aren't lying when they say they look for a man's personality.

I wish they didn't. It sounds sweet and wholesome in the surface, you would expect the woman to love the soul and mind of the man, in some wholesome way that's deep and romantic.

Nah. Women look for personality over looks, not out of wholesome shit. But to test the man, to find flaws in the man, to expect and try to get perfection out the man, to see if the man has character traits that will ultimately benefit herself. Because remember the name of the game is security.

A handsome face can't kill a home invader. But a man whose personality is one of fearlessness or motivation can. Women check for personality to figure out if the man is:
A threat to her
A threat to himself
A threat to others
Capable to build a life
Capable to raise a family
Capable to handle his own shit
..and her petty shit at the same time.

It would be so much easier if it was just looks that women looked for. If they did, they'd not be as critical of men's personalities.

When a woman sniffs out a flaw or weakness in a man's character, just one flaw, even if he has 99 strengths, the woman can be a nightmare. Because she will nag about that 1 flaw, for years. And years. And years. A woman can do this all the way until old age. Not even kidding.
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>>34636690
I have also recognised this. They see men sort of like tools, or farm equipment
They want a man that has the potential to be dangerous, but that won't be to her. And that has status and is highly sought after, but yet only wants her. They wanted to be lusted after such a man but yet respected as a person simultaneously. In essence, they want to be respected, highly valued property that requires all his attention. That is the ultimate female fantasy. A civilised brute with restraint who will never brutalise her. A "gentleman"

As you said, it all stems from insecurity. And that's why they get "the ick" over every little thing. They scrutinise men in accordance with which their insecurity about being a woman demands. It all makes sense from a biological prospective. A woman who is pregnant is vulnerable, as is a single mother. And women are just physically vulnerable in general. Their biochemistry is not geared towards valour or bravery. They are cowardly in their psychology and in their responses to fear and to threats. But it can't be helped. It's just what they are. You can't really blame them. But you can absolutely judge them on their control of this instinct. We men have our own flawed instincts yet we are trained to control them from childhood. At some point, these sexual psychological instincts go beyond a helpful survival tool and become unrestrained mental illness. You are supposed to tame these instincts somewhat as you become an adult capable of reason. Women are not trained to like we are in the modern age, they have no accountability and it is getting quite ridiculous
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>>34637943
>We men have our own flawed instincts yet we are trained to control them from childhood
And by that you mean you're rejected by the women you're attracted to and forced to settle.
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>>34637943
Yeah, exactly you get it. The reason why women are like this is because of weak fathers. The role model that enables this type of lack of reasoning or accountability in women, it's a man. Specifically their doting weak dads who never want their sugar biscuit princess daughter to ever know hardship, so they just spoil them with affection after affection after affection after affection.

The girl grows up to become a woman who expects affection for free. For just existing. And she will also expect young men who have not yet gained life experience to have the experience and discipline of a man in his 30s or 40s.

This is why modern girls are often rejecting boys their own age in favour of dating older men.
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>>34638005
All true. But the kind of woman who tends to seek older men are mostly women who never had fathers at all, or were absent, or neglected them. They are seeking a paternal figure they never had. It's sad, really. There is a distinction from these women and the "sugar biscuit princess" women (lol)
But even they will sometimes chase older men but for the reasons you stated
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>>34637958
Notice here how this woman poster instantly goes into a defensive coil of "i've been found out" and directly goes to "you're just a low status undesirable male" instead of saying their take on it
This is very psychologically interesting and demonstrative of what this thread has been discussing. It really gets the noggin joggin
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>>34636421
>Can women sense that you aren't high testosterone enough to want to have sex with them? and if they can, do they hate you for it?
you can have high testosterone and still be depressed, skinny, flabby, and lack sex drive. you can have low testosterone and be happy, fit, and a horny freak. I know men who have 99th percentile levels of testosterone but who are incapable of growing body hair and who don't care about sex at all.
women don't look at you or other men actively seeking sexual partners or validation that they are fuckable.
either you feel an "air of malaise and discontent" because A. you are a sad sack with poor energy that would make anyone feel like shit around you or B. because you're so mindfucked with depression that you perceive everything and everyone being as miserable as you are.
considering the image you attached in the OP, I think you have an unhealthy and possessive view of women. you are reducing women to objects of affection instead of acknowledging them as human beings with depth and complexity.
get on antidepressants, go for walks more, take vitamin D supplements if you're not getting enough sunlight, drink more water, go to sleep and wake up at regular times, and practice thinking about human beings as complex creatures.
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>>34638022
>All true. But the kind of woman who tends to seek older men are mostly women who never had fathers at all, or were absent, or neglected them.

Yeah I heard that, it's the common going theory. And for all I know, probably true. It's just that my experience with low value women were women with mother issues + weak father combo. They'd feel low in themselves as women due to a shit female role model, so to cope they ran to daddy. And by daddy I mean the older men they wanted to fuck to cope with their issues. Because they at least remembered they can just mentally regress into being a child and run to daddy to kiss her booboos.

Just my perspective though.

>>34638025
>This is very psychologically interesting and demonstrative of what this thread has been discussing

No clue if that anon was a female though. But I've seen plenty of women pull that same shit anyway. "You are mad because you aren't a good enough daddy" is what it boils down to. "Be a man, maybe then the girl would stay/want to fuck". That sorta shit.

It exemplifies the problem I described. In fact there's even a common saying where I live that puts it perfectly:

"Women would rather watch her man die on his horse than fall off of it."

If a man expresses any sign of discomfort, stress, pressure, any signs of chinks in his armor, if he ever stumbles and falls, she's offended. She's frustrated and she is mad at the man for the crime of not being indomitable or invincible. She would prefer the man die in a blaze of heroic glory than to be a real human who suffers.

Because if her horse (the man who carries her life on his back) stumbles, it means her life stumbles too. Which brings us back to their neuroticism for security. This is why they detest men who are insecure. Because if the man is insecure, her future is insecure.
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Guys like you are the best, short polite conversation and no unnecessary socializing. At most they are reciprocating the same indifference. I don't see a problem with how you act unless you are actively avoiding conversation or being rude. People should read the room and mind their business
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>>34636605
If you do nothing for you to change your shitty appearance then they're going to be happy a possible predator isn't chasing them
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>>34636421
Go gay
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>>34638148
I never said or implied anything about my appearance. I'm probably better looking than you.
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>>34636421
>air of malaise and discontent.
You have th ick. They are reacting to your ick.
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>>34638925
/thread
I experienced the exact same thing. They were just mirroring my own ick.



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