>>34640255
yes it's that fucked. Also the ones that matched with you could have been fake people or just collecting matches.

>>34640255
Post a redacted screenshot. Can better advise when we see what you're saying to these broads.

>>34640301
Looking at a few and it mostly is just asking what music or movies they’re into where they just fuck off forever lmao. Weird ass bitches

>>34640255
they could be bots dude
don't be so hard on yourself

>>34640317
When women are into you they just will tell you they like whatever music and movies you like so maybe those aren't good questions.

>>34640345
They’re not. They’re verified and speak normally. Also being only matched with bots would be even worse lol.

>>34640410
The last few times I tried I got matched with bots and sellers and catfishes using porn star pics, then the few possibly actual women would reply like once or twice and ghost or go nowhere. I got so frustrated I rage quit the app. I really only ever got good results pre 2019. Something changed or maybe it's tik tok.

They have 6000 men they're talking to at once. Most of them asking the same boring "what music do you listen to" questions. It sounds retarded but watch the Eric Andre show and literally ask questions like that and be funny. That's the literally the only way to keep their attention unless your Chad and then you can say anything

>>34640301
it doesnt matter what you say, chad can ask for a blowjob in the first message and it works, if ur not a chad it doesnt matter what u say

>>34640455
>>34640481
If I legally change my name to Chad will that help?

>>34640255
Stop asking about their movies and music. Save that for date talk.

A.
B.
C
Always Be Closing

Ask them out. Like within the first 2-3 messages. It's your only chance. Get them off the app, otherwise you'll get lost in her 100 new matches she gets everyday.

>>34640255
Memorize this mantra:

"This chat has been fun. Let's continue it over coffee. Today? Tomorrow?"

>>34641437
Gayest thing ever. Girl will immediately ghost you on that kek

>>34640255
>Chad this
>Chad that
The truth is they have hundreds of matches and you simply get lost in a crowd. Plently of women like talking, but don't actually want to meet. What you want to do is have a short, but not boring conversation and then ask her out, that will save you a lot of time.

Overall it's a numbers game. If you don't follow rules 1 and 2 to some extent, work on that first, because pics are like 80% of success on Tinder or any other dating app

>>34640928
> Like within the first 2-3 messages. It's your only chance.
That's way too fast, he'll end up scaring girls away and even if they agree they'll be much more likely to ghost. But I agree you need to seal the deal as soon as possible, if you're talking for more than 2 days without a scheduled date, you're doing it wrong

>>34640255
All the attractive women who would make great wives and mothers are taken in high school and college the latest. Whatever remains is taken shortly after they enter the workforce. There exist very few good looking women that are single and have a good heart, are modest, raised in a decent family, soft spoken and pretty. The window of opportunity when they are single is very very narrow. These are the 2% of women, the highest stock of females this wonderful creation can offer. If you don't frequent their circles or the events they attend you have no chance of meeting them. Women also don't go anywhere alone, so whatever hobbies women have or events they attend it is done with their husband or boyfriend and if they are single with their groups of friends.

tldr; there simply aren't enough single good looking young white women to go around for everybody, they are rare and exist mostly in very niche places where men without social circles (loners) can't get in to

>>34641442
NTA but if a coffee date filters her it’s either a scammer or someone looking to just hook up.

>I’m never hiring a prostitute
I said the same thing the year before I lost my V-card to one, lol.

>>34641480
I think he means the way he's asking that girl out, which does sound rather gay. Something like "how about we meet for a coffee tomorrow at 7 pm in X?" sounds way better

>>34641480
there are like a thousand tik toks about how I aint goin on no coffee date is too cheap for this bitch nunt uh I want expensive restaurant he better treat me blah blah blah
It's over for meeting women on apps

>>34641492
Nah, most women are okay with coffee dates. If she wants a restaurant or some event, you unmatch because it was never about you

>>34641485
People are awkward, conversations with new people especially so and if you think some foid is actually going to give a shit about the way he asks, if she’s interested then you’re way over complicating things for yourself. Especially considering women are the absolute top tier when it comes to being awkward. Besides if they don’t like awkwardness then they’re self filtering which is a good thing for you. Because people are awkward and is she has a problem with awkwardness then she has a shit attitude towards most people ands why would you want to spend time around that any way?

>>34641494
And what if I actually ain’t broke and want to take her to the NOLA themed bar for hurricanes? The fuck you gonna do?

>>34641497
Throwing money at them won't make them like you if they didn't like you to begin with

>>34640255
>What does one even do in this situation?
Simple. IRL dating. The safest the environment you meet them, the less flaky they will be.

At least you get matches. Id be lucky to even get likes unless I am in a huge city. And usually those likes are transgender ugly freakshows. Its horrifying when I rapid swipe and dont pay attention to the profiles and accidentally match with these fucking dyke hidious freaks short haired freaks with pink hair they/them pronouns, poly, with piercings and a beard.The very VERY rare chance I match with a woman who is at least passable I run into the same situation you are having. As another anon here said, any girl who is at least average is absolutely swamped with dudes. They need to limit the amount of dudes that are active at one time or some shit to make this shit fair because its a fucking dumpster fire

>>34641515
>IRL dating
Its not much easier IRL unless you are chad or go to a third world country.

>>34641498
Then I’ll have had a couple of great cocktails and as an added bonus I’ll never have to see her again

>>34641442
he's already getting ghosted for doing his thing bro

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>>34641518
Man I'm so tired of the fucking trannies larping as foids. All the dating apps show them as foids.
No i want to see normal women, no trannies freaks. Thank you for your attention on this Match group.

And also look at the effort of this 42 yo washed foid.
Literally gave me back a one liner. I'm gonna pursue younger thots goddamn.
Are women even sentient? And i mean she's mid i only matched because she's sort of attractive for 42. But I'm not gonna put up with this bs

>>34641545
You messages are dorky. A simple "it's my cousin's dog and it go bigger recently" would be perfectly fine

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>>34641545
Life partner bitches are always the worst plus she's literally 42. Into the trash it goes

>>34641549
Yeah well is better than replying thanks. She was the one asking about the stupid dog after all

>>34641550
>one word answers
>in pharma
She’s a pharmacist or a tech, either way you dodged a bullet

>>34641545
>emojis
>smileys
>simping
>trying to impress women with your dog photos
kek at beta males

>>34641479
How do I cope with missing my opportunities and being on the trajectory of dying alone in my 60. (Not OP)

>>34641553
Yes debating whether to simply unmatch.
Sperg out saying i take it that's a no for anal, but then I'll probably get banned from hinge. Though it would be funny lmao.
>>34641554
Yeah okay. Dogs are already proven they take bitches as long as they don't hate animals. So a dog picture is positive overall for your profile, and i literally have 1 pic with a dog lmao.
Alright next time I'm rolling out with "hey bitch Whatsup ready to get your pussy filled" that should work right?

>>34640255
This
>talk to over them for two weeks
>get ghosted for 3 days
>finally get told "our vibes don't match"

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>>34641553
>>34641554
Fucking stupid whore. And you see the bitch did like me and the stupid dog you resentful faggot (34641554)

>>34641563
Good lorb she’s learning, she only had to spend 40 years on earth to figure out that curt replies make it sound like you a sent interested, I mean she forgot at first but hey give her some credit (you don’t have to, it’s equally likely some chad cancelled plans on her in the meantime lmao)

>>34641568
Yeah, she's a bit far from my location but i work there, so maybe there's a possibility, still would rather pursue younger pussy (tho i like older whores too obv). But maybe i entertain this. Even though she states a life partner and I'm not gonna settle down with an older used ho

>>34641545
>hope you have some nice plans for saturday (so you don't have to meeet me)
nigga, what? you were supposed to propose something to meet her

>>34641638
Nigga bitches have plans already, and I'm also busy today. If I'm gonna make any plans is for the coming next week. That's just an opener. Imagine asking a foid to go out on Saturday night, on a fucking Saturday lmao

>>34641662
>Imagine asking a foid to go out on Saturday night, on a fucking Saturday lmao
You can do that, but 95% will think you're suggesting a hookup

>>34641668
I'm just saying bitches are always pretending to be busy. And Saturday night being the peak of the week day is as busy as they'll get. So virtually zero chances on making spontaneous plans of the same day with the foids for Saturday. You'll need a couple of business days delay for any suitable plan to be made

>>34640255
>I know it’s because Chad swooped in,
Prove they weren’t chat bots to keep you engaged to the platform.

>>34640255
>I know it’s because Chad swooped in

Its because t*nder for women is basically the same as porn. Ever noticed how you switch to a difefrbnt clip every ten seconds, because oyu can? Yeah exact same Dopamine trap cycle.
Every woman who sticks around online dating for long enough ends up hooked into an endless dopamine spiral where theres always the next better guy around the corner. Because said guy is only an idealized picture at that stage, hes implicitly always better than whoever shes currently meeting.
Then she meets the real human behind the picture, stops idealizing and the circle begins anew.
>Is online dating really just this fucked?
Ist like 80% dudes with a handful of attractive women whose brains are totally fucked. Your only realistic chance are the very few women who get lost there after a breakup and quit the app as soon as they have a new prospective relationship.

>>34640481
it works on the % women who hit up the app because they literally just want some chad dick

the other % are immediately put off

what exactly the %s are is entirely up for debate but there's definitely women who don't want sex to even be a topic in their chat and will get the ick if it's brought up

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>>34640255
>What does one even do in this situation?
Not much. Don't waste your mental energy. If you wanna use the apps, just use them without much pretention. Have convos for the hell of it and don't get your hopes up.
The problem isn't even "chads swooping in", it's the sheer number of men on these apps. Sometimes a woman will pick some other guy over you and if you saw him you wouldn't even say he's a chad.

If you had 100 women talking to you, what would you do? Would you give each of them your full attention and go on dates with all of them? Of course you wouldn't.

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>>34641556
It is difficult to overstate just how much psychological damage occurs in the young mind in never experiencing love when it was supposed to. It creates invisible but ever present and outwardly manifesting psychological wounds that may heal over time, but never disappear. It is a lifelong crippling of the mind, affecting things like confidence, self-esteem, healthy thought processes, and inability to cope with the difficulties in life in a healthy way. It breeds attitudes of perpetual envy and anger and depression. Especially when said individuals are constantly bombarded by images and media of people having lived their best life while they missed out and can never experience, ever. Because time is only linearly forward.

A means to try and "heal the mind" which has already happened for many who have resigned themselves to apathy and quiet resentment, but it doesn't remove the scar. The scar is always there. Always present. And it will always serve as a reminder, and always influence future thoughts and decisions and actions.

>>34642137
And because it's a casual sex app a lot of women there are just looking to hop on chad dick. Shocking.

If you go there hoping for a wholesome chungus girlfriend you're a fucking idiot.

>>34642176
100% right, and tinder is the worse out there. But all of them have the same gaming mechanics, it's just a different UI on the same bullshit.
You'll only do good if you are a 7+ in dating apps and a 7 is the bare minimum

>>34642176
>because it's a casual sex app

Why would a woman need a fucking app for casual sex lmao
It snot a "casual sex app", its a landfill of the desperate and the disturbed. The people it works best for noawadays are the kind who live in the red area of the hot/crazy scale: Theoretically desirable, but too nutty to see any success IRL.

>>34640255
>Match with half a dozen men over a few different dating apps
>They are interested
>Simple talks of what they like. Movies, music, etc
>End up getting ghosted by all, usually within a day of talking
I know it's because all the women you were putting effort into are stacy, and I'm just the backup

>>34642220
>Why would a woman need a fucking app for casual sex lmao
Because they don't wanna fuck the ugly losers they know IRL?
>its a landfill of the desperate and the disturbed
If that's true than most single young people are desperate and disturbed, because that's how most of them are getting hookups and relationships nowadays.

>>34642231
>wanna fuck the ugly losers they know IRL?
uh what. Just go to the averga bar or club. ALso I rarely see attractive women having friend groups of ugly losers of either gender.

>because that's how most of them are getting hookups and relationships nowadays.
I sthat some peak Covid statistic? I don't know anyone who uses that shit anymore. I literally work in a restaurant so I talkt o tons of attractive young women, none of whom use dating apps in anyway because why would they. It just subjects them to heaps of losers with a few decent looking guys inbetween who are probably mentally ill.

If you#re agood looking, socially capable person of either gender who doesn't live in bumfuck nowhere or slaves 14 hours a day, there is simply no use case for internet dating. Sorry.

>>34640255
>Is online dating really just this fucked?
Yes. But not only online dating, but dating in general.
>It’s a genuine question, as to how one works around this.
You don't. It is impossible. There is not one woman, who does not have a phone.
>What does one even do in this situation?
You're celibate. This is the solution. I'm sorry, OP. But, if you're not above 8/10, you're out of luck in the west. It is best to accept it. At least, you'll have time for yourself, your interests, and you'll be spared the heartbreak and dating grind.

>>34641550
>honesty, humor, generosity and emotional stability
So in other words, she's looking for a gullible, goofy beta buxxer who going to jester maxx for her and is financially stable and is going to buy her things, now that her best years in the past. Of course, she was not going to respect you. What'd you think?

all of "dating" is just fucked for men; it's inherently geared towards female instincts; so you'll always lose as a man (even the Chads can't get a woman to commit, if they want that; they're just some kind of glorified male prostitutes for them)
if things were right, men would simply seize a woman for themselves like in the past and cut that cringe "dating" crap out once and for all
sadly T levels are nosediving all around the world, which is the reason for this fake and gay system that we have rn

>>34642306
>can't get a woman to commit

because you don't "get" women to do things. You just plow her well and stay cool, she will eventually committ to you all by herself if you're a good fit.
Disney really did a number on you Betas, huh? Men chase sex, women chase relationships. Get it in your head, keep it as an iron rule and you will be okay.

>>34642334
yea and then you'll be replaced by Africans, who actually have families and children
nature only cares about survival

>>34642340
Yeah theres just about 300 Million White Europeans left in Europe, were about to die out any minute now lol

Meanwhile Africa has hit below replacement rate fertoility as well btw. This is not related to dating in any way, but the simple natural process of procreation scaling back due to overpopulation. Sorry bud.

Every mammal species stops having children when the population burden becomes unsustainable, and at a mind blowing 8 billion people we are definitely beyond that point.

>>34642357
It'll be an exponential decrease. If two parents have one child, then that is halving the population per generation. Not to speak of the fact that 50% of those 300 mil are already about 50 at this point. Now google the median age of Nigeria and compare it to Italy. You'll see. You'll see it on your streets. In front of your house, you'll see it. Believe me.

>this is not related to dating in any way
It is directly related to the emancipation of women. It is obvious, please. If women are preoccupied with having a carrier, instead of having children, she'll not have children. It is obvious. Contrary to the population in the West, very conservative Muslims have many children. This is true for orthodox Jews, as well.

It is not some vacuous fertility "weltgeist". Men would be having children, if the women in the west wanted it.

>>34640255
You're not hot enough. I'm not the hottest guy around, but I am a not incel. Girls HAND THEMSELVES OVER if you're attractive. Completely. There is no such thing as game. If you're even a chad light, girls say something, they stand in your way, bump in to you, find excuses to be around. If girls don't hand themselves over, you're not hot.

>>34642357
In fact, it's evolutionarily advantageous to have many children now. Why? Because you guys are on your way out. So there'll be lots of resources, once you're gone. The conditions for having many children are, in fact, ideal.

>>34642254
If you’re a guy and you’re not in college, you only meet women from work, and that’s risky as fuck as you don’t wanna shit where you eat

>>34642389
You're absolutely right but this alone doesn't help OP. So the full advice is, find an LTR, marry her and exit the game. The casual dating and sex game should only be played by the top percentage of men, it's a waste of time for everyone else. And you're probably not going to meet your wife on a casual sex app.

>>34642412
>If you’re a guy and you’re not in college, you only meet women from work

Uh. No? Friends of friends, bars clubs houseparties hobbies, randomly in all kinds of places if you're easy going and talk to strangers on occasion. And the list goes on.

>>34642398
>Because you guys are on your way out.
Bud, the populations that are one cunthair away from total collapse are in overpopulated shitholes like india and africa that can barely feed the useless teeming masses as is. We are thankfully at long term sustainable levels already once we close the immigration spigot.
>The conditions for having many children are, in fact, ideal.
Since you will likely be unable to house and feed them, quite the opposite. Unless you believe in the brown philosophy to just let them be illiterate and sleep naked on the street.

>>34642484
>The casual dating and sex game should only be played by the top percentage of men,
kys

>>34642388
>It'll be an exponential decrease. If two parents have one child, then that is halving the population per generation.

Ah yes, the good old midwit thing of taking a current situation and just pretending it will be exactly like that forever. Once the population has dropped enough for housing, education and food no longer being an issue, the repdroduction rate bounces back somewhere around replacement level.
This has happened countless times in human history.

>Not to speak of the fact that 50% of those 300 mil are already about 50 at this point.

150 million people still equals the population of the entire northern hemisphere 300 years ago. Just for some perspective on "dying out".
We will have to deal with the booemr aberration and their utterly insane reproduction rate somehow. A single generation population bubble caused as a reactino to the war and lowered infant fertility. Its abit of a problem, but once the boomers are safely gone, the population pyramid will return to normal.

>>34642290
It's all so tiresome.
I went out with another bitch today and I cannot even tell whether she was a tranny. Good God, what kind of degenerate i am. I'm not going for a 2nd date with her/him
>Grim

>>34641550
>>34642630

Online dating really does kill your soul does it

>>34642609
The thing is takes of only mediocre wit are enough for you.

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>>34642793
I should become a wizard by now

>>34640255
I get the struggle dude. Online dating is honestly completely fucked, it isn't worth the trouble. Something I'd recommend doing if you aren't already is looking up what free shit is going on in your area, festivals, charity concerts, etc etc. Strike up conversations with people (even though it can feel like swallowing glass). Even if irl you're sperggy or smth you're bound to meet people in a similar boat to you. It's a lot of trial and error. Even if you don't meet chicks or people to date, making friends can always be a pathway to meeting likeminded people who are single. It's a pain but it works, it's how I met my gf.

Good luck dude! I hope you find your other half soon :) It's not as hopeless as it feels.

>>34642845
Are you like 104 years old?

>>34642851
No dude I'm 19. Going outside really helps! I really do get the struggle, and I want the best for people who were in similar boats to mine.

>>34642508
Only if you’re a very extroverted normie.

>>34642877
You’re just a baby. You were only allowed on dating apps for a year. Being late 20s and single is a death sentence

>>34642904
Maybe I am now haha. It took a long time.

>>34642930
There's shit like Wizz or "friendship" apps for people under 18. Same shit but a lot more embarrassing. Honestly though I can only imagine dude. Being out of school makes shit hard. Being alone is like the worst shit in the world and I hope one day you and all the others in this thread won't be anyomre.

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>>34640255
>I know it’s because Chad swooped in,
Tbh its most often because theyre just seeking some kind of attention and validation and they werent truly interested in you to begin with

>>34641550
Why did you waste a like on her then
ffs you people are retarded

>>34642998
She liked me you mongoloid. I don't like older bitches than me. Still not that bad looking for being a wasted roastie

>>34641545
>>34641551
>hope you have some nice plans for this saturday
You literally signaled that youre closing the conversation dipshit. Like you didnt even pose it as a question.
>have any plans this weekend? We should hang out if youre free

>>34641561
Why are you talking for 2 weeks without asking her out? Needs to be within the first 2 messages

>>34643010
Ok then why did you match? Are you that desperate?

>>34640255
The goal is to immediately ask them out on a date . Ideally within the first 5 messages. The longer you chat the quicker they'll lose interest. But be careful, like other anons noted, a good handful of accounts are niggers trying to rob you or scammers who once they have your phone number find your family on facebook and try to extort you with a fake dick pic you didn't send them, threatening to send it to everyone you know. Shits wack.

>>34643067
>Shits wack.

I truly wonder when it reaches the tipping point where men decide that just talking to women may be easier.

>>34643038
Casanova, it's a literal opener to see if the bitch will even reply back. And I'm not going to invite a foid on Saturday to go out hang out on Saturday night. Are you retarded?
>>34643044
I'll take whatever foid comes my way to bang her. I'm not gonna go on a relationship with a wasted foid. Another genius here

>>34643093
Yeah I can absolutely not see any reason as to why you'd have problems with women lmao

>>34643038
>Why are you talking for 2 weeks without asking her out? Needs to be within the first 2 messages
They were so prude they wouldn't even give me their discord

>>34643093
You need prayer

>>34641437
i've literally done this and both girls i were talking to ghosted me at the same time. don't do this anons, i think i asked them out too quickly and it scared them off. it's like fucking feeding a baby pigeon

>Simple talks of what they like. Movies, music, etc
>End up getting ghosted by all, usually within a day of talking
You're using the dating app wrong.
Stop talking. You're a blabber.

>How did chad land a date from the app instead of getting ghosted?
He didn't talk much

>>34644059
It works like 50% of the time IME. keeping a lifeless conversation going over text for a week and then asking her out works only 1% of the time.
Sorry you had a sample size of 2

>>34644065
so what? should i just swoop in with plans for a date? i'm quite autistic so i do kind of blabber a bit but i make sure to set things up relatively quickly.

>>34644068
yeah that's what i was thinking, online dating seems like a bit of a humiliation ritual. had a break up a little over a year ago and have gone out with some girls from the apps and have talked to plenty. nothing's ever materialized to sex, tho tbf i could be better at making moves

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>online dating in 2026
Nobody tell him

>>34644411
Go away, gay psyopper.

>>34643199
>>34644028
>t. Virgin gaylords