I have been playing the dating game a little too passively I guess. I remember reading advice on here and even some articles about how "Yeah man, just live your life and you will meet a woman." but I don't think that is true. I truly believe that as a man living in the USA, a woman won't just fall into my lap. Even more importantly, because women will very rarely make a first move, I have to be the driving factor in meeting women obviously. So just "living my life" hasn't worked well for me at all. So if I wanted to start effort maxxxing but with dating, what should I be doing? I haven't had a date in probably 10 years. I am 30 now. I have been on dating apps for about 8 years and had no dates. So if I want to pour effort into dating, what do I do? I want to be put my best leg forward but I don't even know what to do or where to start. I don't feel like I live in the same dating realm as a normal person.
wanna get woman do their first move? try download bumble, try to max ur game in dating apps, dating apps is mostly about appearance, try to look decent in pict. Try other guy how their appearance and the pict they took, look to other guy profile, dont buy dating apps perks, it's scam. it gonna make u paycucks bcs it will make u single and u can buy more and more, or try to international or edating? but good luck
>>34645319I actually did try bumble for awhile. Never had a match. I think apps that let me be able to message would probably be best. I don't know what it is about bumble but it seems like even on the app where "women have to make the first move" women won't make the first move.
>>34645239Its your face. "Living your life" advice only works for the top 20% of men, which is probably who gave you the advice. The bottom 80% of men in America have to basically pay for a dead bedroom relationship where she doesnt even love you and cheats on you. Picrel shows that women view most men as significantly below average, while men have a more balanced view of women. To understand the perspective of women, imagine if 90% of women you saw were obese, that is how we are perceived.To be honest, its probably over for you. You are 30, and any women you manage to get a date with will be leftovers. However, if you can tell me whats wrong with your face you could potentially get a surgery and then geomaxx to Southeast Asia to score a poverty bride. But thats really the only way. Heres the main things that could be wrong with your face(most to least important), if you dont know what anything is just Google it. Balding, overweight/skinny fat, uneven facial thirds, upper eyelid exposure, recessed jaw/chin, nose width to mouth width ratio. Those are the usual incel makers, just compare yours to the ideal and ill let you know if surgery is realistic or not.
