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How many times should I text her without being too many? How many times should I ask her to hang out without her being grossed out or thinking I'm needy?
Minimum times before she thinks I'm ghosting her too
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>>34652984
>How many times should I text her without being too many? How many times should I ask her to hang out without her being grossed out or thinking I'm needy?
Keep doing it until she tells you to fuck off.
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>>34653000
I fon't want her to tell me to fuck off though
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>>34652984
Just be sincere unless you want to keep up mentally calcuating every action for the rest of your life. Being with someone who doesn't mind your natural aspects is certainly preferable if you can achieve it.

Sincerity can be very attractive so just tell her what you're thinking or ask her communication preferences. Showing that you care what she wants and thinks is very rarely a poor idea.
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>>34652984
>How many times should I text her without being too many?
Match her energy. If you're getting ignored then ignore her.
>How many times should I ask her to hang out without her being grossed out or thinking I'm needy?
I think 2 is enough, 3 rejections is plenty. Obviously there could be a factor where you have to wait for the right timing (hormonal or otherwise) but I would start to feel like a simp at some point.
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>>34653216
>. If you're getting ignored then ignore her.
that means giving up on the relationship
>>34653216
>I think 2 is enough, 3 rejections is plenty.
I meant a week. obviously if I get rejected I'll never talk to her again, but I don't want her to hate being with me and still hanging out with me because she feels pity or something
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>>34653305
>that means giving up on the relationship
If that's true, there is no relationship. Dating should be really easy, you ask her out and she agrees literally on day one or provides an alternative.
If it's harder than that then you're probably going to end up wasting your time and engaging in sunk cost fallacy.
>I meant a week. obviously if I get rejected I'll never talk to her again, but I don't want her to hate being with me and still hanging out with me because she feels pity or something
Bro per week? You shouldn't be asking more than once per week unless she's asking for that.
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>>34652984
lol
are you exactly the same as your neighbor?
your brother or father even?
why do you think all women are so similar that all of them will have the exact same response to some behavior?
I had exes who would be ok with 50 messages and would even resent you messaging too little
and other girls that would get the ick by 5
so there is no minimum or maximum in general
you gotta know her better
always try to message as little as possible and leave it open for her to reply something interesting, have you noticed streamers only reply to hate messages and ignore the hate messages?
if they have something interesting to reply it's more probable they'll have something to say
if the only answer is "thanks" or "yes/no", there is little incentive on they replying
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>>34653320
so once every 2 weeks is acceptable?
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>>34653541
It's totally fine. You have to imagine that attractive women have a much more active social life than the average man, so they will feel pressured if you ask too often.
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>>34652984
Be the last reply / the last one to make a plan for something. If she leaves you hanging, don't message again. The exception is if she's already asked you to text her at a certain time or something similar.
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>>34652984
Put the ball in her court. "You seem very busy these days. You know my address - contact me when you want to."
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>>34653954
there's no way to know if she wants it or is just being nice then
>>34654469
I don't think threats are a good idea to keep a relationship going bro
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>>34652984
If she were the correct girl, you would not be here asking this.
Because when you find her, everything flows.
If she plays games, move on.
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>>34654469
You deffo gettin ghosted like this bro
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>>34656001
>If she were the correct girl,
It's not her, it's me. I'm not the correct guy, and I will never be for nobody unless I learn how not to be cringe
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>>34652984
Anon, I'm gonna be real candid with you: She, should she be the one, will not give one stinky shit how many times you text her.
Double text. Triple text. Fuck, quintuple text.
If she gives one word answers or ghosts you, move the fuck on. It's okay to be needy bro, some women genuinely like giving. Be honest and up-front about your needs now, or face the consequences later. A good, long term wife will show reciprocity and accommodation, as should you to her. If there's no reciprocity now, there will be no reciprocity later. Easy as.
Give her benefit of the doubt, but not too much. My rule, before I met my wife, was if they didn't fuck with me now, they won't fuck with me later. It's really easy to follow: if I started being flirtatious with a girl and they were showing reciprocity, I'd send some texts, and if they didn't respond in a day, then they're a whore and/or don't have feelings for you. Move on, it's not worth it trying to change someone.
Bottom line, anon: be yourself. Don't try to be someone your not for a bare minimum woman, be yourself and you'll attract women who love you for the man you already are.
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>>34657710 (me)
>inb4 ohhhh but i've tried and they don't exist, trust me!
>inb4 there aren't any women that love me, all I've had in my life is heartbreak
>inb4 who would love a gooner 4channer like me?
>inb4 but i'm ugly
>inb4 i'm not worthy of love
>inb4--
I don't want to hear it. I used to be a fucking incel. A lolicon addict, reddit moderating incel. Lowest of the low. I didn't take care of myself, I was breaking out in zits everywhere, my hair was greasy, and I listened to mommy asmr to feel crumbs of love and I dreamt of killing myself when I turned 30. It was pretty much over for me. Then I met the woman who is now my wife and everything changed.
I'm here to tell you anon, there is a woman out there that loves you. I guarantee you that they're somewhere out in this world. A woman that fulfills all of your needs, cheers you on as you battle your bad habits and become a better man, and makes you feel like the happiest man in the world. Love isn't something distributed only to a select few, everyone is capable of love deep within their hearts. When you receive love, all of those terrible things which once defined you will all begin to melt away. You will begin to transform into a version of yourself unrecognizable from who you used to be. Those bad habits and old mechanisms may come back to bite you, and you may succumb to them every now and again, but now you will not be alone. You will have someone to fight by your side. You will have someone who knows every single part of you, inside and out, everything you're ashamed of-- and chooses to love you. Every, single, day. It's not a silly game, anon. It's the intertwining of your souls, becoming one with one another. Choose wisely which woman you choose to do this with. Society will tell you otherwise, but it's the truth. If I did it, God willing, you can too. And I mean that. Nothing is impossible, ever.
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