>>34674464
F38 has stayed at our house a few times. Once, we were all drinking and my wife went to bed and f38 and I stayed up longer. The conversation got to a self defense class f38 had taken and I said I bet it’s not that effective. So she demonstrated and we wrestled a bit and I demonstrated that I could pin her down- I laid on top of her with me between her legs and holding her arms out (like a clothed missionary position, and I was a little hard from wrestling with her) I felt the kinda strange feeling before you kiss a girl but I didn’t kiss her and she didn’t kiss me. After a bit we kept chatting and she went to the kitchen island and kinda leaned on it, and I stood behind her and hugged her from behind and rubbed her back and got a little surreptitious side boob. Nothing more happened and we went to bed (separately).

I think we didn’t kiss then because we both didn’t want to betray my wife’s trust. But with the new info from Father’s Day, maybe my wife is more interested in f38 getting involved than I thought?

This summer my family is going to a resort for a week for a baby shower thing and f38 is invited too. I kinda want to see if wife will bless me and f38 hooking up at the resort. But I am not interested in wrecking my relationship with my wife and kids

Having zero concealed intent and talking things through with your wife seems the best play.

Adress what specific need this will get met for you, and what you assume it'd meet for wife. Make sure you're on the same page there.

Adress possible problems that would come from this and agree on how you'd handle each worst case scenario.
Agree first with yourself, then with wife and then with F38 that if the arrangement ends up hurting someone, it needs to stop with as little hard feelings as possible - unless you're an asshole, but you'd have cheated if that's the case.

Kids complicate things, figure out how to navigate that.
Put in the effort to find and speak to a child psychologist and get their opinion (this might go a long way to reassure the wife, but you're doing it for your children).

If all goes well, restrain yourself a little bit from overindulging in the sex you felt starved of - make sure your wife still knows you find her sexy and attractive and be attentive.

Like, you're most of the way there, just don't let your eagerness sabotage you or your marriage.

>>34674464
>without fucking up my relationship?
Impossible.

>>34674464
>I want sex at least daily and she wants sex like once a month

Why did you marry her then ffs.Sex may not be the only relevant thing in arelationship, but it sure as fuck is important.
>but the gist was wife said f38 could just move in as a sister wife because she could take care of my high libido, she could drink wine and chill with wife
Thats the dumbest idea I ever heard. DONT DO IT
Honestly, open up the relationship and bang girls that are not part of your wives circle.
If you actually go about it this way, your life will be a nonstop shitstorm of drama, stress and two women tearing at you for more attention with any and all means possible.
Especially with no experience in handling multiple women at the same time, you are headed for desaster.

>>34674523
Good points. Thanks
>>34676085
Yeah I think the idea of having a live in girlfriend and wife went from ~100% fantasy to ~99% fantasy from the conversation on Father’s Day, which made it very slightly real, which prompted me to write this here.
Ultimately it is a fantasy, but maybe I can get wife to play into it without actually involving f38, maybe by wearing f38’s perfume, buying and wearing the same kind of clothes, roleplaying, etc. or maybe if i don’t bring it up to wife I can keep my fantasy my own fantasy. Maybe steal f38’s panties next time I have the chance, lol.
Or maybe ordering the fantasy scale:
1. F38 lives with us as a sister wife
2. F38 is allowed by my wife to be my fwb
3. The idea of f38 is used by my wife and I (perfume, clothes etc)
4. I steal some panties and fantasize about the real thing.

and then you get herpes and 2 harpies

the end

I hate you

Just masturbate a lot, don't bring another girl.

>>34677283
F38 is very unlikely to have herpes. My wife and f38 talk a lot, and wife tells me lots of shit about her various girlfriends, including deets like std status. Wife and f38 have shared drinks and clothes (can’t recall sharing swim bottoms but might have happened?) so f38’s panties are low risk fapping.

I think my play is to get wife liquored up on the 4th and chat about fantasies and if the conversation/vibes are going in the right direction, ask her. Maybe start at the smallest risk/most vanilla fantasy and seeing if she’s receptive before moving onto the big kahuna.

>>34676085
Her libido went way down after kids. To be fair we’re both really exhausted a lot. It’s just from my perspective, sex needn’t be a big time consuming, high effort thing. Even when I do all the work wife is still not wanting sex very often. Sometimes as a better than-nothing compromise, she begrudgingly sometimes lets me fap in bed next to her and finish on her tummy, butt, or thighs.

>>34674464
Having a wife and kids is so gay and then u want to add degeneracy into the mix dude I'm so glad I'm.never going to have retarded ass kids bro I thank god every single day I can fuck hos cause I'm snipped

>>34678216
F38 is tentative on coming to visit for the baby shower, might stay at our house one night!

>>34678239
Troll, but, having kids is literally the best thing I have ever done. It’s a ton of work but more rewarding than anything.

>>34679442
Wife has sexed me 4 times the last few days, which is a recent record. I’ve gotten some post nut clarity from several days of being sexually sated, so my desire for f38 is hugely diminished. Might still steal her panties though.

>>34674609
This.