>>34701596
2 case scenario when a man wants to befreind with a woman
>he wants to sleep with her
>he's gay

doing things with women is boring, they just keep bitching, talking gossip and complaining

>>34701655
I'm a man and I like to gossip

Start the conversation by trying to learn more about their interests. People in general LOVE to talk about their favourite media, hobby, etc.
You have to be careful to not only listen carefully, but also to ask them questions about it, like you really wanted to get to know about it more, not as a random listener.

I think it's one of the best advice I could ever give on this subject, it has always worked for me.

If it's someone you really want to be friends with, you will be able to find at least one thing that she likes in which you will be interested in.

Afterwards, you could share one of your interest as well in return. Slowly, you'll be able to develop friendships that way. As a girl myself, this method would be the best way to befriend me.

>>34701596
I am a girl and I don't have many friends... Do you want to be friends? I don't like gossip tho.

>>34701733
What are your interests?

>>34701733
I wouldn't mind it! But I created the thread moreso for irl interactions

>>34701744
I like crafts, music (metal, grunge, industrial) and animals.

>>34701746
Oh ok. I dunno how to make friends with girls 2bh. All my friends are guys except my best friend who I'vr known for years now hehe

I'm the opposite, I'm a man and the majority of people I've talked to and have been friends with have been girls. Idk why

>>34701596
I don't think it's possible for a man and a woman to be friends, not in the conventional sense of friendship in the male definition of the word. When you make a true friend out of a woman, either you catch feelings for her or she catches feelings for you. The only way to prevent this is to have boundaries and emotional barriers, which at that point you're less of a friend and more of a friendly acquaintance. Friendly acquaintance ≠ friend. I've heard people say they can pull it off and be close friends to the opposite sex but usually they also magically happen to include (... With benefits). Aka they know they can't stop themselves from banging even at that level.

That's just my experience though. I genuinely tried to figure out if I could be friends to women, and if you're in a social circle or my mixed group gathering, yeah, you can be "friends" in that fleeting moment. But if you talk 1-on-1 and it's just you and her? Lol yeah friendship isn't going to stay that way for long. Every time I tried, without ulterior motive without any expectations for romance or sex, just sincere friendship it always resulted in the girl
>Catching feels
>Getting flirty
>Confessing to me eventually
>Sending unsolicited nudes
>Steering the convo into sexuality

Every time.

>>34701852
How did you join a social circle?

>>34701852
I had a girl friend in highschool that I had feelings for but she didnt. Then I got over those feelings when I dated other people. She and I have remained lifelong friends, over half our lives. Even when we were both single it was just like a bro friendship. She happens to be very tomboy tho so that helps. But the point is, even if you catch feelings doesnt mean that is always the end of the friendship.

Meanwhile I am (individually) friends with my other friend's wife. For a while she was just my friend's wife, but we've known each other for like 13 or 14 years now, and I've hung out with her individually on occasion, and she and I have 1:1 conversations. Now, dont get me wrong, I would fuck her brains out if the situation was different, but it's not, and I'm never going to try anything.

Sexual attraction can exist without you acting on it (assuming you have any degree of social competency). You are probably too young to have long lasting friendships like this, or else you're a coomer caveman who cant control his base instincts.

>>34701596
To get in the friend zone be a simp but not attractive.