>>34708765
You already have been this is just them telling you

>>34708765
It's over.

>>34708765
Even if they don’t have sex at this particular time, your relationship is probably over. Continuing to text back and forth with some guy like that during a relationship is weird enough but now they’re meeting up to do stuff. Dude.

>You dont get it anon we are just friends!
Man I do not miss this part of dating

>>34708765
Do you trust her or you don't?

>>34708765
>Am I about to get cucked?
You are already cucked in your mind. Might as well buy the cock cage and get it over with.

>>34708817
She’s not acting very trustworthy so hopefully he doesn’t

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>>34708823
How do I find evidence that she's been cheating?

>>34708836
If you're experienced, you don't need evidence because you spotted the patterns before. Otherwise all you got is your gut instinct. Which yours went off that's why you felt the compulsion to make the thread. Whether you listen or not is your call.

>>34708765
Yeah, that's a massive red flag, I'm in a committed relationship and would never do anything like this. Never have in any committed relationship, this is dodgy af.

>>34708836
snoop through her phone.
But usually gut feeling is always correct.
Whenever I 'felt' they were cheating, it turned out to be true.
ALWAYS trust your gut.
t.40yo divorced unc

>>34708765
My only suggestion is this, the last filter to know for sure (looking back on my previous exes who cheated).

When the girl says "I'm going to [place] with [other guy]" there's two possibilities:
1) She's about to cheat it she hasn't already, it's done. 90% chance.
2) She hasn't cheated, and has no intention, but she is completely socially inexperienced and the guy is trying to slither in on her social inexperience to score a free fuck. 10% odds.

To figure out which is which, calmly tell your girl "I'm not comfortable with this at all. I don't want you to hang out with that guy."

If her first impulse is to get defensive, angry, accusatory, that's the one who cheats. If she is instead oblivious, confused, inquisitive and empty headed on the gravity if what's happening, then she's not cheated, but the guy sure is gunning for what's between her legs.

In both cases you are supposed to put your foot down and tell her it's not happening. If she agrees right away, or at least wants to know what's wrong, tell her the rules. If she managed to get angry at you and accuse you then gave you crocodile tears (fake crying), if you have fallen for it, and she said she isn't going go.. watch your back. Because next week or so, she has to go visit 'grandma' or she has 'got sick, doesn't want to speak for a while', basically some strange out of character behaviour comes out of her, contradictions, (she had no issues calling when she was sick before or visiting. She had no problems answering her phone at Grandma's before but now it's radio silence?) that sort of shit. When that happens it means she is currently in bed with the guy.

Sorry you got thrown into this shit.

>>34708911
>>34708765
Other tell tale signs:
If in the last month, she has:
>Switched up her wardrobe, adopted a new aesthetic
>Purchases of lingerie or sex toys that you know she didn't include you in
>Random change of tastes in music genre, random interests of new hobbies cropping out of nowhere (gender neutral hobbies are red flag. Masculine coded hobbies are blood red).
Emotional distance before she announced she was going to hang with the friend (lack of sex, lack of affections)
>Pulls back when you kiss her, isn't wanting to even treat you as a lover anymore
>Increase of drama stories, gossip increases, usually to talk shit about girls she heard had cheated their men (this is to make you feel like she dislikes cheating to deceive you).

Maybe other lads can throw in a few more

>>34708911
I wonder why she would even tell me about this. It's not like I'm in her vicinity. She can just say she's gardening with her family or some shit.

>>34708952
Bc she's not cheating so why wouldn't she tell you

>>34708765
why don't you post your cuck fanfictions on ao3? or at least go on /trash/

>>34708952
Because girls who cheat don't just stop at cheating, they want emotional justification to go ahead and do it so they can soothe their own conscience. She will shit test by leaking the info to you and if you get angry or raise your voice, that's her ticket she tells the guy she fucks:
"My (ex) was abusive" she will tell the guy you are an ex when you're not, to conceal the fact she is a cheater. If the other guy knows of you or finds out, then she is the poor trapped girl in an abusive relationship, and the guy smashes her anyway. Some cheating girls get a thrill from partial exposure and telling you to see how oblivious you are or not. It depends.

The oblivious girl who isn't cheating but for some reason has no clue that hanging out with guys by herself while in a relationship = she looks like a blood red flag.. she will be blunt and tell you she is going to hang out with that guy because in her head nothing is wrong, because she thinks her loyalty is enough and she is capable to defend herself. (She just often gets coaxed into drinking and when she is blackout drunk the guy fucks her motionless body).

>>34708836
Why the fuck would you ever spend your time confirming what you already know? What a waste. Everything you’ve said shows what’s up. Everyone posting in good faith knows what’s up. You could post this on /fit/ and everyone would know what’s was up. And so on and so on. You’ll probably just hurt yourself more if you actually find evidence and this is somehow not a cuck fanfic.
That’s the best advice I’ve ever got in my life.
>never spend time and ESPECIALLY don’t spend money confirming what you already know
It has never done me wrong.

>>34708980
He doesn't know anything though. There is no proof she's cheating.

>>34708991
Get the fuck outta here
>I text back and forth with my “ex-something”
>and now that anon is out of town
>we are going to do something together that would count as date night if I went with anon
>but conveniently only when anon is out of town
Get the fuck outta here. There’s trusting your girlfriend and then there’s being so naive you’re literally asking to get hurt.

>>34708991
Nta but there is proof:
Ask yourself questions.
Would you go out on a play date as a 'friend' with a girl who has a boyfriend, you and her alone? If the answer is no, it means you know it's fucked.

If you would be uncomfortable if a man were to take your girlfriend out to some place to hang out alone, the answer is you know it's fucked.

If the shoe was on the other foot, if you knew that a girl would be justifiably angry if her boyfriend were to see another girl alone 1 on 1 in a date setting like hanging out somewhere, then you know it's fucked.

The only people who never learn this life lesson are people who listened to others who said "You just have trust issues. It's ok for a man and a woman to be friends even if the woman has a boyfriend or partner."

That's only ever uttered by cheaters, or simps who don't enjoy the idea of women being locked down in a relationship. Or oblivious unsocialized types who ain't learned the hard life lesson yet

>>34709003
I think they’re talking about proof like a court of law. Something material that proves it beyond a shadow of a doubt. What you’ve said is valid but would be circumstantial if this were court.
The thing is that this is not a court of law lmfao and OP doesn’t owe anyone (or even need) fucking forensics to get out of this weird situation.

>>34708994
They're friends. They sometimes text each other. They have a shared interest and they're going to participate in it together because both of them like the same thing. Pottery class is not a date night.
>>34709003
Pottery class is not a date. Yes, I would go to it with my female friend. Yes, I would let my girlfriend go to it with her male friend.

>>34708765
So OP I got no idea when this pottery class is, but assuming you ain't trolling to farm cuck fap bait, you need to put your foot down now and tell her what's not going to happen (she's not going with him.) don't ask, don't beg, don't plead, don't yell, you say it calmly but firmly as a statement of fact. Then watch her reaction and refer to

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>>34709015
Cool bro
Me and your girl will be back from pottery class tomorrow morning sometime unless she wants to sleep in

>>34709015
Ok then I can't help you. And I hope this is a LARP. For any of the inexperienced young guys lurking at least the insights can benefit them. See ya

>>34709019
You can't order her what to do. You can tell her you feel uncomfortable about it. But you can't forbid her from doing things as if she were your child.

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>>34709015
That person isn't me. I'm OP.

>>34709014
>The thing is that this is not a court of law lmfao and OP doesn’t owe anyone (or even need) fucking forensics to get out of this weird situation.

True. But y'know how it is, it's not just oblivious girls. The guys, man. It's the tyle of guy where you tell them a common sense life experience thing and they ask for citations or studies, those types, they act like social prey animals and they will do the absolute most to argue with the person trying to save their ass than the person stabbing a knife in their back. Happens all too often.

>>34709015
That’s not even naive. This is you being defensive of women’s ability to cheat and fuck around without being questioned.

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>>34709044
If she were cheating why would she openly tell this to OP?

>>34709049
Lmao yeah that kind of guy. It's arguably a blessing a lot of them can't find girlfriends, because a manipulative girl would make absolute mincemeat of their sanity, their social life, whatever emotions they got inside and also their bank account. We had a system in place to help guys like that find a girl and also pass every shit test and spot for harpies. It was called 'wingmen'. But thanks to how egotistical everyone is, no one wants the wingman

>>34709062
A lot of liars tell a small truth right before a big lie.
In any case, what difference would it make? Why are you assuming her to have 100% competence and sanity here?
Might it be because you’re simply defensive of women’s ability to cheat and fuck around without being questioned?
>ps I don’t care if you answer those. I’m being rhetorical and it’d be obvious to any reader what you are

Why is everyone assuming that the guy claiming there's nothing fishy going on is me?

I 100 percent think it's fishy behaviour. Hence the thread. By the way, she's been obsessed with losing weight for the past month so that's another red flag. She's pretty thin either way. I remember her explicitly asking me if I would be okay with her gaining weight of because she really hates dieting. Now all of the sudden, she's obsessed with dieting.

>>34708765
Assuming this is a real story and not some cuck fantasy
Even if absolutely nothing happens on their little class trip her going anywhere alone with another man while you’re away, especially a man she’s expressed feelings for before, is completely unacceptable. And if you had any balls you would have told her that.

>>34709074
I'm not assuming anything on 100%, that's what most of people itt are doing. It's as if she was guilty until proven innocent lol.

>>34709148
Relationships aren't court cases. Cheaters don't get arrested and no laws are violated, it's a completely different ballgame with a whole set of different dynamics and patterns that can only be understood from experience. "If you know you know" sort of thing. She's 90% cheating, 10% exception of socially blind chick

>>34709148
You have the worst type of autism

>>34709104
Has she done that big red flag sign girls do? Yknow the one where they're chilling with their phones and scrolling on it and when you approach they steeply tilt that shit back? They hide the screen from view at an angle? In case you see who they're typing to?

My girlfriend said she wants to go to nursing school at ASU and asked me to help pay her tuition. She also needs help with sorority fees. What do?

>>34709415
You don't have to pay. You can say no, bro. If she gets pissy remind her you're both not married.

You posted this before. Guy with a fetish for women cheating during community center classes