I hear all the time that it fucks up the people left behind, but how true is that for the average person? It's suppose to be selfish because the pain is being passed down, but isnt it more selfish to assume that people would be traumatized for life and never get over it? On the other hand, some people may laugh and ridicule one for commiting after the fact. What are you thoughts?
>>34710097That’s not advice. How much bitcoin you have?
I didn't recover well my blood is old and raggity my dad doesn't trust me anymore I tried on my birthday. Im in and out of hospitals. Fml you're making me want to do it again.
>>34710097I never knew anyone that committed suicide but honestly I wouldn't care that much I mean at the end of the day it's a decision you make I think people really exaggerate how "hurtful" a suicide is like yes your parents will look like shitheads and the person that cheated on you or anyone that treated you badly might feel guilty but that's their problem.
>>34710097>I hear all the time that it fucks up the people left behind, but how true is that for the average person?100% true. It fucks you up *for life*.
>>34710097Suicide is incredibly stupid. You only get a few decades of life anyway, and then an eternity of death. Why rush towards it? I never knew anyone who killed themselves who did it for a legitimate reason either. They weren't in perpetual pain or in unrecoverable debt. They just polluted their minds with childish nonsense from nihilist media, and instead of thinking for 2 seconds why doesn't these authors kill themselves if life is so miserable, they just off themselves instead. Literally memed into it through edgy thought patterns
>>34710097My son committed suicide. Everyday I look at his picture and curse him for doing it and myself for not seeing it coming. Not only me, but all his friends and coworkers said it was the last thing they would have thought. Go ahead and kill yourself and fuck up everyone else who knows/knew you.
>>34711714Why did he do it?
>>34711714Do you mind telling more about his life and what possibly led to him doing it? >curse him for doing itdoes it ever outweigh the love you had for him
>>34711772I don't know. I got into all his electronics and found nothing. Asked friends, his boss... no hints.
>>34711783The missing missing reasonshttps://issendai.com/psychology/estrangement/missing-missing-reasons/
>>34710097I wonder this too.I don't have any family, also no friends who I am really close to. It feels unrealistic to say anybody would really be hurt by me passing.
>>34710097Why would it be selfish?Some retards decided to fuck and give birth to a retard that will 100% fail at life. They've set you up for a life of suffering just because they acted on some primal urge to fuck.They DESERVE to suffer.
>>34710097>isnt it more selfish to assume that people would be traumatized for life and never get over it?I can’t stop likening this comment to the soap poisoning scene from A Christmas Storyhttps://youtu.be/OtEaka1QeV0?is=UHQOfGJ02g3SUuOeThere are people who really hope that their self harm is gonna turn out like this. The worst part is, I think I get it.
>>34710097I can't imagine my family would care. they never bothered with me when I was alive
>>34711779>Do you mind telling more about his life and what possibly led to him doing it?Loved by his family. Funny, smart, advanced education. Liked at his job. At his wake I had coworkers come up to me and say "He helped me out so much..." or "He took the time to help me understand..." He travelled and I found over 40,000 photos in his icloud account.>does it ever outweigh the love you had for himyes, I admit it does>The missing missing reasonsI would love to have a reason. I would have loved to find correspondence on his computer to a friend that said "My parents are pieces of shit because..." I would have loved to have his boss come to me and say "He embezzled $$$ from us" or he left a note that said "I murdered someone". Anything. Any clue. Any hint.
>>34712579When I was 6, 7 lol! I used to fantasize about killing myself to get back at my parents. Idk if My dad would care. But he'd at least pretend to.Took me until maybe 30 to mellow out a little bit.
I fucking hate anyone who says that suicide is “selfish”. Consciously deciding to kill yourself is one of the hardest things to do and you’d only be able to do it if you’re truly mentally fucked and unable to deal with it any other way and yet people will call it selfish because “why didn’t they think about us tho” like wtf lmao have some empathy
>>34715612Suicide is self murder and viewing the ones perpetrating it solely as “victims” ignores their responsibility and agency in committing that murder. They are still also victims, but that doesn't remove all accountability.
>>34715734I dealt with persistent and progressive suicidal thoughts before deciding to seek help. It was a responsible move, but some people are torn down so far that they are no longer capable of making rational decisions. You have to be insane to want to kill yourself.
>>34710097It fucks the people up left behind. The reason why suicidals struggle to understand this is because they suffer from low affective empathy (due to psychotic depression or PTSD or whatever it may be). And when someone has low affective empathy it means they cannot gauge how others besides themselves feels even if they wanted to, they just can't do it. So they convince themselves that since they can't give a fuck about themselves, they project that and assume others can't give a fuck about them. This is where the delusion comes from, they think people on the outside have the same apathy towards the suicidal person as the suicidal person has towards himself. This isn't the suicidal person's fault, that sort of self-consumption or 'despairing selfishness' had been afflicted upon them by progressive circumstances outside of their control, usually in their past somewhere. The suicidal person did not ask to be suicidal, they're in a loop and they've been in it so long they forgot what it was like before they were suicidal. That mental loop can be dissolved, their affective empathy restored and they end up grateful as hell they never followed through, because they learn that if they did, the actual social and mental destruction they'd have dealt everyone in their inner circle would have not only been incalculable it would have been permanent. Example:I'm a former alcoholic. With a wife and kids. If my brother commits suicide, I'm fucked. I relapse, I go into extreme depression, I hit the bottle, I become a drunkard father, that affects my kids, my kids inherit generational bullshit. I can remain self aware and fight the relapse but something as big as family killing themselves would be too big. Because what the family think is "this is my fault. I should have done more, said more, I should have checked in, if I did they would still be here, this is my fault, this is all my fault."That's what suicide does to those around them.
>>34710113Hey don't
>>34711615Why prolong your pointless existence and suffering if the end is going to be the same
>>34716297Might as well be aware and experience all that I can from reality before the inevitable comes, since I won't have access to this ever again when my time comes, which won't be long anyway. I think people who are suicidal have very weak wills and lack creativity. Life really is wasted on them
>>34716374The why blame them or ask why they do it? They just werent lucky with the mind they were born or what life made them be. And if the solution seems very distant or impossible, sometimes doing it is the smart way
>>34716430I don't do either of these things. I would rather kill myself than be homeless or having to endure some disgraceful form of existence like thatBut I can't really say that I find their lack of willpower or love for life to be admirable. Of all the people I know who committed suicide, not one of them was in a state where their lives were unsalvageable.
I dated a woman whose father killed himself. Twenty years later, she still falls into depression every Sunday because that's the day he died. And a good friend of mine in grad school once confided to me that his older brother killed himself and never a day goes by that he doesn't wonder what his brother saw or didn't see that made him think life was not worth living.I also had close association with two "accidental" suicides. One hung himself in a way that made it look like it might have been a prank that went wrong. I was a poll bearer at his funeral. Another shot himself in a way that made it look like it might have been an accident. Both left behind families and friends tormented by the tragedy and the uncertainty and the nagging implication that maybe it was a suicide and, if so, why? And in both cases, friends either found the body or watched their friend die in agony.
>>34715734> Suicide is self murderYou probably also believe that masturbation is self-rape.
>>34716253There's so many things that get in the way of rational long term thinking, even just the weather at the time can do it. If you add family digging into you saying some heinous shit while you're already feeling isolated and miserable that could be more than enough.
>>34710097If you kys i won't care at allKill some others too plz, preferably women like ER
>>34711714LolUr son khs u retarddddd
>>34712481It's selfish to not work for kikes for 50 years>>34715436You are not entitled to your son not committing suicide, you spoiled boomer.
>>34715734Murder is based (good) tho ur just a pussy
>>34711714He killed himself cause his dads a fagg
