>I notice a cute girl at my church>she notices me as well>she grins at me (as in she smiles in such a way you could see her teeth)>catch her looking at me couple of times>have a courage to ask her out>she turns beetroot red and tells me she will think about it>>It's nice of you Anon, but I'm not interested>notice a girl at a college campus>our eyes meet couple of times, including once were we looked at each other for couple of seconds>establish contact>we chat a lot, and I mean something like 20+ message stories >ask her out>>Sorry I'm not interested :/>theres a girl at a college campus>she smiles unprovoked every time>we end up in the same group>we end up going on a same trip>when we talk she asks me about my love life>to my answer that I have never dated she asks me if I have ever even tried>when I tell her that I dont go out often, she nudges me with her elbow at tells me that maybe I should change that>ask her out>>It's nice of you Anon but I'm currently seeing something blah blah blah...Holy shit I dont get it, its like third/forth time in a row I ask out a girl that seems interested in me, only to discover that I was in the wrong. I've been told that whenever someone likes you it is 'sooo obvious' but then it turns out that stranger woman smiling at you or forcing physical contact isnt a sign of interest. So /adv/, what are some failproof signs of interest? Are they even real? Because it seems like I will be forced to walk around with an attraction sign like Chris-chan if it will keep happening to me.
>>34723801They're just being friendly, you creep.
>>34723808I'm fucking going to kill myself
>>34723821It isn't the worst mistake in the world.
>grin with teeth>it turns out that stranger woman smiling at you or forcing physical contact isnt a sign of interest.
>>34723801Maybe it's your presentation? I don't know but there are a lot of factors. I think you need to look at women like you aren't interested and let things emerge from there. Internalize your inability to get women, give up on them in your heart, then simply brish with them like they are something that doesn't matter even a lick to you, and look at them like you're hiding something behind your eyes, like you know something they don't. Don't go out of your way to ask them out, aura max, and when a chance for conversation naturally arrives, if ever there is one, it's warfare, dance with the fire. (could be retarded)>>34724009All zoomers are to some degree beset by spiritual rape and that's barely a joke. They are exposed to things before their minds aren't prepared to grapple with them. There is a silent awkwardness in interactions that stems from the insecurity that comes from it. You have to be of the mindset of a man amongst the ruins with an implicit knowledge of shared paricipation in grand tragedy, and it's from that point of view that you can discern what's appropriate. I may be saying half retarded things, and yet, this schizophrenic mindset is applicable. You can't really describe the disposition with which you navigate these things without just sounding woo woo and getting down metanarratives (allegedly). You have to appeal to knowledge and you either know or you don't. Empiracism... fucking disgusting....(allegedly)
>>34723850Yes, but you first
>>34724052I've made a ton of mistakes in my life anon. It isn't wise to just say that this idiot thing I did is deterimental to me. You found a girl who seemed like the girl of your dreams, but you'll find another girl who is a girl of your dreams out there. You're just learning how to connect with that type. Over time after quite a few rejections you'll finally get one and she'll like the real you for you.
>>34724073>I've made a ton of mistakes in my life anonBe more specific. Anything interesting?
>>34724080Yeah I'll tell you one time 10 YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS FAR DUMBER, that one of my collegues who I was trying to be friends with, made a comment about breast reduction. I said oh your body is fine the way it is... Completely unaware of how offensive that was. Confused and conflicted I went home crying that I lost my friend who I wish didn't see me as a freak.
>>347240942 points i need to make.Wanting to get a breast reduction is disgusting.Wanting to befirend women is wierd.
>>34723801You seem unable to tell the difference between being friendly and lusting for your body.
>>34723801This was always how these sorts of interactions went. The only success I've had is when I've been a bit a heavy flirt while leading them on and getting them frustrated. In order to do that you need to have a life with other things going on in it btw.
>>34723801>third/forth time in a rowit's all good anon. you tried, that's the important part. it didn't work, next time try a slightly different approach. practice makes perfect.>failproof signs of interest?forget they exist. for a vast majority of men, there simply are no such things.you have to ask her out in order to know. it's OK, rejection stings a bit less each time it happens, and success is around the corneron your attempts: #1 & #2: you probably did it mostly right, too bad, she wasn't in the mood / she was taken / she miscommunicated something. forget it and move on.#3: you may have waited too long to convey interest, also (depending on your age) it's not a good idea to tell her you never dated. if you don't want to lie you can stay vague with something along the lines of >I have never dated seriously >I never had a long term relationship>Are they even real?if you were in the subset of men who get those failproof signs of interests, you would already know and wouldn't be asking here (I'm not being a dick here, just factual)
Lol my best advice is that you're asking them out wrong. Its important to choose the right moment to ask, and build up to it. Going on a date is a big deal, not the first step. If u fail to realise how many important steps happen before that first date, no one ever wants you. Have an instinct abt it, i cant tell you. Just think harder.
>>34723801They have more courage to show interest when they are not interested. You gotta go for the bitches that are seemingly trying to ignore you.
>>34723801They could be doing the thing where they want you to chase them more or not take no for an answer
