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Am I pathetic if I've asked hundreds of girls out over many many years and have suffered through all of them rejecting me until I found one that actually said yes?
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You're less pathetic than me and most zoomer men for actually asking girls out, assuming its in IRL
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Ask yourself how comfortable are you with your current state, be it fitness, financials, hobbies. If you are being rejected and aren't improving yourself where its needed, yeah, its a little pathetic. I get hoeflationis real but we all should work to better ourselves.

You should pat yourself on the back for actually asking out girls. That scares most men and many miss their shot because they listened to reddit and think that they'll get falsely accused of rape for flirting
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>>34733709
Trying and failing is fucking cringe brother, why didn't you just get it right the first time
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>>34733969
I'm not Chad
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>>34733969
So much this
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What?
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>>34733709
No because that's how it goes. Only people with crippling perfectionism (retards on the autistic spectrum) will disagree, that's why they remain virgins to this day (unless they pay the prostitute). So perfectionist are they that they REEEEE if the girl who says 'yes' had an ex boyfriend before and is no longer virgin herself. So the Autistic will read Schopenhauer or Carl Jung, then he will take his welfare NEETbux money and go to the prostitute and give his virginity to the prostitute (whose bodycount is in the thousands).
[This is what autists actually believe.]
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>>34734718
>So perfectionist are they that they REEEEE if the girl who says 'yes' had an ex boyfriend before and is no longer virgin herself
Personally I those those kinds of dudes are insecure and threatened by other men. I mean why else would you give a shit if the woman had boyfriends before you?
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>>34734732
Because they have vivid imaginations. When the girl is wet for him and she pulls down her frilly lace panties that she bought to impress the autist (even if she is wet for him, and there's clear honey dripping for him) even if she screams to him "GET OVER HERE AND SCRAMBLE MY EGGS!"

The autist does this face: (pic related)

In his head he imagines the Tyrone Gigachad Scream.mp3 the guy screaming UUUUUUURRRGHHHHHH- Yknow the one, in his mind her ex is prone bone slamming her, 10 inch cock going deep, she's pulling it back in, she's doing ahegao, the autist mentally visualizing every thrust, zooming into his balls, and he imagines the creampie. And also her ex is black too in his imagination (in reality it was some filipino guy or some spic-mutt)

Snap back to reality his girlfriend is placing concerned hands onto his shoulders her panties still down to her legs and she is like "uhmm.. anon are you OK?" And he snaps out of his rumination and looks up at her like a baby boy and says "y-you too.."
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>>34734793
>"GET OVER HERE AND SCRAMBLE MY EGGS!"
kek
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>>34734793
Kek
this is why I come here
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Nigga?
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>>34733709
>until I found one that actually said yes?
How did that go? Just a yes that turned into a no later?
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>>34735616
If i didn't have crippling adhd i would read those copypastas too and laugh with you
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>>34736940
We're still together. It's been a few months :)
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>>34734732
>I mean why else would you give a shit if the woman had boyfriends before you?
haha, yeah totally anon.
A woman's past is in the past after all, it doesn't matter that just a few days before meeting you she got her holes resized by 10.000.000 guys in one night while torn around like a dog's chew toy.
It doesn't matter at all anon, you should love a woman for who she is, it doesn't matter if there have been more dicks inside her than atoms in the observable universe. Why would it?
Let a girl have some fun, will ya? What are you insecure or something?
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>>34738105
HAHAHAH THERE IT IS THERE IT IS ITS THE VIVID IMAGINATION AUTIST GUYS LOOK LOOK

>10.000.000 men
>More dicks inside her than atoms

Did they all go HEEEEEEUUURRRRGHHH while full nelsoning her or mating pressing? Mating nelson? Tell us did the imaginary nigger fucking your imaginary girlfriend have a big beefy cock? Can your mind's eye rotate the 3D object if the cock in your mind in 4K? Do you see your own reflection on the surface of the slick sweaty ball sack that's hammering down on the girl in your head? If so how is it possible you are seeing your reflection in your own minds eye? That's fucking indigo child levels of autism.
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>>34734718
>go to the prostitute and give his virginity to the prostitute
Unironically better than taking a non-virgin on a romantic date and getting to know her on a deep level. To me, it's not the sex with non-virgins that disgusts me. It's doing anything nice or loving for them. They don't deserve that.
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>>34738343
>They don't deserve that
Stop projecting
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>>34733709
This is the normality for men.
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>>34738474
Hypergamy. This sounds like years of this man being rejected. I can't even imagine the bottom of the barrel woman that would finally cave and say yes. I am not sure that amount of effort is worth it. It had to be soul crushing. This man may only be a husk now
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>>34738157
>Can your mind's eye rotate the 3D object
yes actually. Matter of fact, it's like having Odin's eye, except I can see each little strand of peach fuzz on a girl's ass move rendered with a realistic physics simulation in real time as it's getting repeated shock waves sent along it's surface from getting plapped by the behemoth that is her ex boyfriends massive, veiny cock(s).
It takes one look at a girl just walking down the street to instantly observe every cell in her body and calculate their trajectory to instantly trace them back in my mind to when she was getting exorcism-tier, back-arching, life-altering orgasms after having her guts rearranged by 10 sweaty Chads and Tyrones whose combined levels of testosterone, if fashioned into a concentrated liquid in a vile, could be used as a lethal injection to kill a full grown bull. I can hear the vivid soundscapes of of bodies slamming against one another like planets colliding. Groans of ecstasy such as this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srodNyimqTM

mix with the high pitched sounds of the wooden floor and bed frame creaking like an orchestra mixing with a solo violin combining into a carefully crafted symphony of passion and primal violence.
Yeah, while you go about life woefully unaware of the bottomless abyss that is women's lust, I am aware. I have seen the depths and the depths have seen me. And while I left a scarred man, bitter and distrought, I did leave with a valuable lesson: WOMEN ARE INSATIABLE WHORES AND YOUR MOTHER IS THE UNDISPUTED HEAVY WEIGHT CHAMPION OF THEM.
Niggers,
My anus,
They tongue it.
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>>34733709
i like to believe its all about asking the right people
a nerd cant ask a roasty out, they just cant aggregate each others worlds
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>>34733822
Thank you for the thoughtful reply bro :)
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No one ever said yes. You ain't got it and never will. Receed into yourself and never try again.
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In a way I think it is because only men who don't know women have to resort to spamming approaches. Normal people just meet women through living a life that allows them to meet and interact with them.
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>>34738527
HOLY AUTISM

I FUCKING KNEEL
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>>34738474
That's sad.
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>>34734732
>I mean why else would you give a shit if the woman had boyfriends before you?
Why do people even care if their partner cheats? It's just dick / pussy, who cares?
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>>34740367
>oh no you knew people before you even met me that's cheating you've betrayed me!!!!
How do you even manage to exist in this world being this fucking retarded? Holy shit...
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>>34733709
If you are pathetic than it's okay to be pathetic and much less pathetic than people like me who are too scared to even ask girls.
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>>34741071
>betrayed
>cheating
It has nothing to do with betrayal or cheating, dumbass. You're completely missing the point. It's about exclusivity, which is the entire reason people care about cheating, but if you aren't dating a virgin then they were never exclusive to you in the first place, and thus it is completely arbitrary and pointless to care about the sex they have beyond that including even when in a relationship with you. This modern concept of monogamy in an atheistic state that doesn't revere virginity or hold contempt for casual sex is completely fucking idiotic. You can't even justify monogamy without exclusivity, because that is the entire point of monogamy. Even ancient boomers could understand this, which is why premartial chastity was strictly enforced for most of civilized history.
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>>34733709
No, you would be pathetic if you had never tried in the first place
>t. never tried in the first place
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>>34741109
>It's about exclusivity, which is the entire reason people care about cheating, but if you aren't dating a virgin then they were never exclusive to you in the first place,
>and thus it is completely arbitrary and pointless to care about the sex they have beyond that including even when in a relationship with you.
If there's a Guinness World Record For Retardation, this would win for sure. This is the dumbest statement I have ever read in my entire life. And I have seen things, man.
I don't even remember encountering something this utterly moronic before. It's truly mind boggling how someone can be both this retarded and insecure at the same time.
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>>34733709
>I've asked hundreds of girls out
your male ancestors are proud of you son, regardless of the outcome.
keep going
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>>34741172
>no argument just ad hominems
I accept your concession of defeat.
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>>34741182
They are probably crying that their descendant had to humiliate himself hundreds of times for non-virgin serial dating whores until one said yes.
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>>34733709
>play the long game until you win
Why would that be pathetic?
>>34734793
Lovely post
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>>34734793
>cuck fantasy projection
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>>34734793
Beautiful post, absolutely golden.
>>34741109
Perfectly encapsulates the retarded mindset of guys like this.
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>>34741109
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>>34741201
You haven't defeated shit, nigger. Let's break your stupid ideology down, shall we.

>>34741109
>It's about exclusivity, which is the entire reason people care about cheating,
Uhuh, yeah, that's the basics of a relationship. Your point is?

>but if you aren't dating a virgin then they were never exclusive to you in the first place,
If they're not currently dating anybody while they're talking to you... ummm yeah they're exclusive to you buddy

>and thus it is completely arbitrary and pointless to care about the sex they have beyond that including even when in a relationship with you.
You're being fucking retarded. This is retroactive jealously. You have no reason to care about about the men she's dated before meeting you.
This is absolutely not the same thing as if she would be having sex with you WHILE you two are in a relationship.

What are the core characteristics of jealously?
You fear being compared to these other men, you fear being inadequate. That you'll never measure up.
You fear being abandoned by the woman for these other men that don't exist.
You fear that the woman won't be "perfect" because she has been "tainted" by her relationships with other men.

See the keyword there? You FEAR....

>You can't even justify monogamy without exclusivity, because that is the entire point of monogamy.
No, nigger, you're such an incel that you've conflated what the word exclusivity even means.

Exclusivity does not in anyway shape or form involve one's sexual past. It has nothing to do with that.
Exclusivity is about the present and the future. Monogamy is a union of two people in the here and now.

Requiring the woman to be a virgin is by definition NOT exclusivity. That is your incel preference for sexual inexperience.
Exclusivity is about how you and the woman treat each other AFTER you have agreed to be together.
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>>34742872
you might just be less sentimental than other people if nothing he is saying has landed for you

>Exclusivity does not in anyway shape or form involve one's sexual past. It has nothing to do with that.

i still have hangups from foids who i never even touched, i can't imagine the psychic barrages people experience from loving several people and then leaving them behind

your ideals make sense if you are a true pump and dump chad that can fuck em chuck em and forget them but intimacy is sticky for a lot of people -- it's colloquially called "baggage" because it is a common phenomenon that people bring their experiences with them, so common that it's often expected
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>>34742898
So.... what, are you now supposed to go fuck yourself because you've dated women in the past? Are you now to never date a woman again because you've dated one before?
If you ask a woman out and she asks, have you dated anyone before me, and your answer is yes, is she supposed to tell you to go fuck yourself? You see how fucking retarded this is?
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>>34742947
okay, there, so you can at least cognitively empathize with the set of anxieties that would motivate someone to so highly value exclusivity

obviously as someone "ruined" by my past in this structure, i live in your world where we've got to make due and be nice but you're never going to see eye to eye with someone who holds tabula rasa in such high regard because it has precisely the emotional resistance you're satirizing
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>>34741109
>if you aren't dating a virgin then they were never exclusive to you in the first place, and thus it is completely arbitrary and pointless to care about the sex they have beyond that including even when in a relationship with you.
This is the dumbest thing I've read so far this week.
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Reminder that """virginity""" is a psyops to keep you miserable and easier to control.
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>>34744036
Nah it's not a psy-op. Women have a membrane of tissue called a 'hymen' that when perforated by a penis causes light bleeding, this is the indicator of virginity and it exists. At least for women. For men there are no indications of virginity physically on him and no physically changes occur when he loses his virginity. Psychologically there is a massive surge in hormones that promote confidence and relaxation but those die off within days and the man is back to being as he was before. So it can be argued that it does not exist for men.

Realistically though it does, when people say "virginity" they really mean "first experience". And humans do have a first experience at having sex.
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>>34744817
About the Hymen

Women have hymens because it is a leftover membrane of tissue during their fetal development, it served as a cap to prevent infections if the fetus girl from entering. It remains inside a female after birth, during childhood and into adulthood however it can naturally wear away or break or tear without sex at all. Not every virgin has a hymen for this reason
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>>34744817
>when people say "virginity" they really mean "first experience"

Yes. And in other contexts, people don't go literally insane over first experiences. LIek your first friendship, the first time you went to the gym or whatever. Its jus the cuckolds outlined in this post: >>34734793
Imagine thinking about Tryone when confronted with a naked hot woman. Thats some real gay shit. Couldn't be me.
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>>34744844
It depends on how the person identifies sex or what meaning they hold to it. Some people consider to be an act of love, others it's just pleasure, for people who have a functional mind, it's both.

People who treat it as the penultimate symbol of love or pairbond will see a girl's lack of virginity as a possible sign that she doesn't (or didn't) consider sex as something related to love. And that if she threw it away, it means she may be unable to fully love or pairbond. That's where that comes from.

And on the surface it seems like fair logic, but autists forget something:
Most of us (and I am a man) who always saw virginity/sex as something meant for love, we genuinely thought we were dating someone who loved us back and the intention was marriage but life happens and the relationship breaks up and it's babbies first heartbreak, or it turned out the person you dated was a liar or a degen and they cheat and fuck off.

Autists don't account for that, a lot of the non virgin girls they assume to be whores are girls who tried (and often still look for) long term commitment but they picked the wrong guy. Or their own immaturity cost them the relationship or something.

The best way to filter out the decent chick from the slut isnt IF she is virgin or not. It's HOW did she lose that virginity.

If the girl has 3 body count, but she had sex in three long term commitments that she intended for marriage but it didn't work out, that's not a slut.

If a girl has a body count of just 1, but she lost it because she was offered a bag of coke to be fucked by a stranger in the club bathroom, that's a slut.
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>>34733709
No! You asked out hundreds of girls, and, you did what was in your power.
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>>34747939
Yeah
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>>34733709
i would go full falling down postal scorched earth by rejection #20 dude, are you made of fucking titanium? that's the most desperate thing I've ever heard of, like ckmeone crawling through 30 miles of glass shards to get a drink of water holy fuck
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>>34748470
>like ckmeone
Who?
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>>34733709
Not lonely and no bf right now but a comment/confession about the OP pic. I always laughed with scorn whenever I saw these threads until...until I tried to remember the guys that tried to get with me (not sex or date or a relationship) since junior high. Its over 50. Not horrible but way more than I thought. Sorry. You guys kinda have a point.
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>>34733709
Not pathetic. You're trying and shit. Notice how your image is close to what happens when sperm tries to reach an egg.
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>>34751676
What do you mean get with you but not want to have sex or be your boyfriend? What other type of getting with you is there?
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>>34751700
I mean they asked and I refused them. I just assumed they wanted a date at least but probably only sex. Maybe they wanted a gf. I don't know. I have been on dates and had one bf but the 50 I declined to meet up with them
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>>34733822
>If you are being rejected and aren't improving yourself where its needed

Women rarely tell you why they are rejecting you other than "not feeling a spark" or whatever. If youre going to improve yourself it has to be your own goals and desires
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>>34751676
50? Since junior high? Hmm, why did I think that number would be closer to a 1000? Unless you're about 20 years old right now, in which case... but still... only 50?!
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>>34741109
If you care so much about a woman's virginity then you must also agree that a man who loses his virginity is also a filthy piece of shit right?
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>>34741228
you just don't get it
it's the trying part that makes you a man
some of us are genetically / financially gifted and won't even have to try
some of us start with horrible, borderline crippling handicaps. just going for it in this condition requires huge balls and willpower, few possess. yes there will be rejection. but in the end it's a numbers game (IF you're brave enough)

case in point, I know feel a lot better about myself if I've been rejected by a woman, than if I'd been staying on the sidelines doing jack shit. the regrets and what-ifs are simply unbearable.

the occasional success and sex are only pleasant side-effects of actually enjoying the hunting part. once you get this, the world is yours.
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>>34751860
I'm almost 22. I didn't count the accepted dates but that only adds another 9 but I also had a bf for a year. I don't know but it seemed a lot once I thought about it
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>>34751964
Alright that makes sense now. I would expect a few hundred more during your 20s and 30s.
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>>34752062
I hope not. Its harder now to to decline. The guys are persistent and do not accept a no so its best for me to avoid any situation that puts me alone with one guy. I also feel bad for some of them I have no interest in since they are otherwise good people. No casual lunches or coffees. I also do not want to remain single forever and want a family someday.
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>>34733709
I’m 31 and been trying since I was 13. I still haven’t been on a date yet :(
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>>34752499
Damn, well, I'm worse than you. I'm 40 and I haven't been on a date yet...
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>>34752499
>>34752601
Whatever you two do, don't become losers that only value women if they're virgins.
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>>34738942
Obviously all the good people get married early, we are all just the dregs trying to figure out what to do now, the roasty and the nerd, diametrically opposed and yet meant to be together. Most of us would rather be alone than with our hated low value soul mates. Most of us will capitulate and be miserable together. We will all cope in our own way, with self awareness or without it.
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>>34744909
>And on the surface it seems like fair logic

No, its absolutely fucking retarded. Theres plenty of people who don't separate sex and feelings, but thinking that sticking your dick in a wet hole is the ultimate peak of love is just mental illness and inexperience combined.
>It's HOW did she lose that virginity.
Not at all. Its not uncommon to "just get it over with" for both genders, and on top most people lose their virginity aws teenagers aka during the most retarded period of their lives. Defining someone by teenage bullshit they did is again, mentally retarded.Imagine if people got banned from employment for life for shoplifting at 14. It is like that.
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>>34755294
Copium
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>>34733709
No that is not pathetic you tried until you were successful and never gave up on yourself we’re all gonna make it bros
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>>34755575
Yeah! :)
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>>34755119
But only virgin teen white women matter.
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>>34751865
i dont enjoy the "hunting" part, I'm tired boss...



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