My very first girlfriend broke up with me a few days ago and wanted to "be friends" and I blocked her off discord but apologized and unblocked her. A day later she reaches back out to me not to acknowledge my apology but to double down on blocking me on her Twitch chat and discord server because apparently whatever words I said pissed her off that much (I really didn't say anything...all I said was several different variations of the word "boobs" so Twitch auto mod doesn't bar me from posting. Anyway she's got this problem where she's been picking apart singular words and calling me a walnut head/dropped/kicked in the head at birth, and all sorts of names ever since I made 1 little comment bringing lube for sex. I have not had sex with her. We've been on 6 dates (don't worry, I didn't really pay for any dinner/lunch or whatever, it was all just walks for the most part). Strangely by date 3 she invited me around her family. The only intimacy I've had with her is hugging and putting my hand on her breast (which she did herself) because I've waited for her consent. Apparently she didn't like that I wasn't initiating. But at the same time she has a schizo blog where she lists all sorts of definitions and one of them is about consent and battery. Even though she verbally said I was her boyfriend I was too scared to do anything without her making the first move. It's a long story...my point is, she reached out back to me via friend request and doubled down BUT she still insists on "being friends" and at the end of her last message she mentions her wanting me to play with her intimately when her daughter goes back to school in August. She told me my "brain is wired to be a friend, try being a friend first". On her dating profile she said she didn't want "friends with benefits", so what exactly is the kind of arrangement here? Is she using the "friend" label for me so that we'd talk more to get to know each other more?
Never listen to what women say they want.Don't play her shit test. You're falling for everything. Her primal instinct is to be led by a man who takes the initiative. You've lost your frame. She has you twisting in the wind, desperately waiting for her approval. Nothing dries up a woman's pussy faster.
>>34758835I've heard of this from "game" channels on youtube but there must be some truth to this. Every time she initiated sex and I attempt to come over she keeps cancelling. But 1 of her criticisms during the breakup was "oh, why didnt' you just come anyway? it's not like I work" citing the very first date I went on with her she "cancelled" (not really, she was vague about it so I had no way of knowing and it felt like she only met me because she felt bad I drove 50 miles to see her) that I came anyway and she came out to see me. So like, if I say I'm going to meet her I basically drag her butt out of her house or her mom would just let me inside anyway.
>>34758776You sure she was your girlfriend? How old are you guys?
>>34758845I'm 32 she is 37. And while in text we did agree to a relationship it was treated as a "job" in the sense of "roleplay" in that she gave me "tasks" to do which essentially was just going on walks. But she would regularly talk about sexual stuff but nothing of the sort ever happened the moment I showed up in person and I assumed she just kept getting cold feet everytime or that it was "too fast too soon". Like one time she told me to sneak in her room to screw her while her mom was sitting in the living room and I was left confused...like how would that work? Then she comes out the room all dressed in her running clothes, doesn't say a word and just walks out the door to go to the park. Even if I wanted to initiate something I have no real opportunity without making it look weird or forced. And now that I'm blocked on Twitch and discord I have no real way of communicating with her....besides her other discord account she's now on my friends list. I'm not even sure how to strike up a conversation or if I should just let her talk to me and or wait until August like she said to "play with her boobs...as a friend, tee-hee". So should I be distant and not say anything or use these 2 weeks until August to talk to her regularly is what I'm asking.
>>34758854I got the ick just reading your beta male way of thinking.Do you not see that you are letting her run the relationship and waiting for her decisions and instructions before you do anything??She wants to date a man. Someone who leads her. She is probably exhausted having a puppy dog like you. SHE DOESN'T WANT TO BE THE LEADER. Be a man and do WHAT YOU WANT.Stop checking for her approval every 30 seconds.>she's 37All this for a walled out roastie??When I was 32 I was slaying girls in their early 20s. You need to reset your whole game.
>>34758854Bruh... I thought you were like 20 until you mentioned she has a daughter but I still can't believe this. There's something wrong with her and you should stay away. You will never have a normal relationship with her, not even a friendship because she will keep changing her mind about what she wants all the time.
>>34758776What she is saying is that she wants to be friends but not date or have sex (ever). If you want to give that a try, go for it; if not, don't.
>>34758776>EX GF wants to be friend?wants help, too mooch, waste your time while she's getting strange dicks
>>34758872>All this for a walled out roastie??I thought the same thing. I probably just fell in love with her vtuber personality afterwards but in real life she's pretty mean. I didn't know she was a game streamer until after the fact on our first date. The first date I went through all that trouble just to feel what it feels like to go on a walk with another girl and didn't think things would go forward after that.>>34758874She did tell me she suffers from depression but since she told me that, the name calling and cancelling increased, so she could have used that as a convenient excuse. >>34758887>wants help, too mooch, waste your time while she's getting strange dicksAlso maybe true. I took her daughter to a doctor appointment (you know, the ones you have to go for school) and we were supposed to go eat together after that but she cut the date short. Then during the breakup she blamed "my brain" for not coming inside with them when she explicitly said on that day in her words "okay, so thanks for taking us places" got out of the car, no hug, no follow up message that day. Felt like I was used as a free Uber that day and saved her a bit of money to buy food for her kid. It felt very disrespectful
>>34758776Things were going fine even though you were oddly resisting any romance or sexuality. So she guessed thatYOU didn't want HER and backed off. But that somehow angered you more. It is YOU who are sending mixed signals she can't read.
>>34758943Does she have many subs?
>>34758954She's literally doing 180 on everything she says. How is OP at fault?
>>34758956Well, maybe. She hovers around 5 to 10 viewers a day with her peak view count from me watching daily for over a month at 38 viewers. But it's mostly her orbiter guild mates coming in daily to chat. Which is the thing that made me block her in the first place.She shoved in my face that she was trying to hook up with a guild mate while we were dating. I brushed it off as "oh, she just means an MMO husband, something a lot of people do as a gimmick" but she was dead serious (I think). So when she barred me from Twitch, was it not reasonable to get mad and block her because she essentially told me you can't talk to me, you can watch me talk to other guys who could potentially be someone Im flirting with?And I didn't say anything to get anyone pissed off as I already said in my OP. I was mirroring what the other people were saying about breasts. Or that I called her daughter a "sheep" but I simply said "sheep" because another person called her a sheep because he said she was making sheep noises in the background. Tell me, is that fair?
>>34758974She's a bitch. Don't engage with her anymore.
>>34758854Holy shit there is no hope for you two if you really are that age. You both act like fucking fifteen year olds.
>>34759034We are both neets. There is a lot of interesting overlap between us like how our family is from the same country and whatnot, but I do agree the whole thing feels very teenage. I haven’t been in a previous relationship, she has, and yet she acts like this.
>>34758999I won’t say anything to her I’ll continue to just work on myself like I was intending to do. The first 2 days after the breakup wrecked me but my homeboard on this site cheered me up quickly.
>>34759070Won’t say anything* unless she genuinely wants to talk to me.
>>34758776bitch sounds crazy, why would you even consider playing this retarded game?
>>34759083Just loneliness maybe. A feeling of someone choosing me.
>>34759065I say this with the best intentions, but stop doing this. Cut her out of your life entirely, get comfortable with yourself and being who you are and your life, work towards something substantial that brings you joy or otherwise purpose. Stop thinking you are not worthy of being treated with common decency and respect by anyone. This is a toxic (hate that word but it is) relationwhatevership and this will only end in more frustration and other negative, emotionally draining shit. You both sound like very immature people and you both need to do some serious introspection.
>discord>32 and 37millennials are manchildren etc
>>34759087She's not choosing you she's fucking around.
>>34758776>I have not had sex with her. We've been on 6 dates Calling that a gf is a stretch, unless you're in HS/early college. That's more the like "is this going anywhere?" phase. Also, six dates is a lot for not having had sex unless you're both teenagers.
>>34759338I can assure you we are both in our 30s. >>34759190Perhaps but as another anon said maybe I have given mixed signals myself for being beta
>>34758776>wanted to "be friends"Don't take it seriously. At the end of the day, it just means she doesn't want you to be angry at her.> We've been on 6 dates That's not really a gf, dude.
>>34759338>Also, six dates is a lot for not having had sex Only if you're a complete degenerate
A 37 year old who acts like this and has a daughter is not worth this much attention. Move on, seriously.
