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I called into work today.

>be me, new job
>higher position opens up right away
>apply for it
>don't get it
>told I'm needed in production because I meet rates
>plant wide raises come around
>don't get it
>figure it's because I'm new
>others hired in on the same day got it
>get a plaque from the company with "the terminator" in it because I'm so good at running the machines.

I feel slighted. Red pill me on quitting or letting them get away with this.
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>>34765703
If you're thinkinh about quitting, give them an ultimatum instead: give me the job I want or I'm leaving. Also take that plaque, that'll be good for future jobs
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Companies inherently think of you as worthless. You should seek to exploit them just as much as they exploit you. That being said you should try and get something lined up before you quit.
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>>34765703
You're good at your job.
If they can keep you at that job they will make more money
Make them pay to keep you.
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>>34765972
I wish I could get them to mentor me so I can move up.
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>>34765777
"Idle Threats are empty threats."
- Javik, mass Effect 3

You never give your employer an ultimatum. Ever. It always backfires. You're just issuing an empty threat.

Resorting to a verbal threat means you either lack the immediate capability to force your will, or you lack the resolve to do so. An idle or empty threat is even worse—it spends your credibility for zero return, showing your opponent that your words are untethered from your actions. It gives the enemy time to prepare and robs you of the element of surprise.

The Violated Laws of PowerLaw 4: Always Say Less Than Necessary

The Violation: By issuing a threat ("Pay me X or I leave"), the worker talks too much and reveals their entire hand, including their emotional dissatisfaction and their exact price.

The Consequence: The element of mystery and leverage is gone. The employer now knows exactly what it takes to temporarily placate the worker while they secretly search for a cheaper, more loyal replacement.

Law 9: Win Through Your Actions, Never Through Argument

The Violation: A coercive threat is a form of aggressive argument. It tries to force agreement through verbal pressure.

The Consequence: Actions speak louder and carry more power. The action would be simply taking the new job and leaving the toxic environment behind, or quietly placing the offer on the table and letting the paper do the talking without a verbal ultimatum attached.


The real issue is you are too valuable in your current position. Either find a new job and leave or break enough dishes to make them not fire or discipline you, but promote you to rid themselves of you as a nuisance to the plant operations.
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>>34768338
This is incredibly autistic to the point of parody but not incorrect. Asking for a raise is fine but threatening to leave if you don't get one is tying the noose around your neck and just waiting for your boss to kick the stool.
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>>34765703
>I feel slighted
you were
tell your boss, if they don't fix it with a better raise - stop trying and start applying elsewhere

>>34768338
>laws of power aka how to alienate people and have fucked vibes
lmao
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>>34765703
Ask why. Must be some mistake.
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>>34768338
Good post albeit funnily put. I am also job hunting but not for a payrise, instead to get away from the daycare environment despite being a mature well-paid position (being told what to do is unbearable when you're not a lead, it's time to instigate the change)



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