I am a 23 year old virgin. This situation causes me much pain due to the constant unfulfilled desire and regret for lost time. I have become very pessimistic and disillusioned about the whole thing. Even if I did manage to get a woman, I anticipate that it will be unsatisfying and cause me more grief in terms of conflict, jealousy, insecurity etc. The fact that I am still a virgin is not a good predictor for future sucess in love and sex. I think being with someone I am not intellectually or sexually attracted to out of desperation will just be recipe for mutual suffering. It just seems like a hopeless, futile desire that I will never fulfill and will continue to torment me. Even among those who are in "relationships", few seem happy or satisfied. The ideal of a relationship of mutual love and sexual attraction simply seems impossible or very unlikely for me.I am otherwise quite sucessful and others would probably think I am happy/fortunate.
>>34768968Have you ever actually spoken to a real live woman?
>>34768968Hey bro,You're dwelling on this a lot. Legitimately bang a hooker to get it out of your system (no matter what anyone tells you, you're paying for it either way, women aren't capable of love in the way we are). Additionally, I think you're putting a lot of your happiness in this scenario where you have someone else to make it happen. That's a hell of a lot of pressure to put on another person and it's not likely anyone will live up to the standard. I think you're better off finding happiness with yourself and fulfillment that way, then maybe seeking love and partnership when you have the excess battery to give it. Anything else is just a covert contract. Thanks,-Kel
>>34768993I think being alone for so long is simply very unpleasant. I don't think it's really because I'm putting my happiness on it. If I could get rid of this desire by willing it to go away, I would...I've tried to ignore it.I think it's mostly biological and perhaps slightly cultural or social...but not peculiar to me.
>>34768984Yes...I have. When I tell people I'm a virgin, they try and look for some reason, whether it be looks, personality or whatever. In relation to future love sucess, I think it doesn't matter in a certain sense. If someone is a virgin at 23, there is probably something about them that makes love, romance, sex etc difficult. I think our personalities are quite immutable.
>>34768968It also means that you aren't promiscious, you are not a deviant, which is better, keep it that way, it means nothing to have multitudes of partners just to be alone at the end, be blameless.You lack someone to love, a genuine human person, but you reduce it to a mere question of virginity or whether you had intercourse - this is the point which people often miss, as these days nobody cares about an authentic connection as much as they do about satisfying their own lust...So don't care what the world says, it's the same world which, if a perfect man were to exist, would crucify him. >“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
Im 33 and I love girls even though I dont have a gf right now. I dont see whats so painful anymore. Every man has 1 or 2 painful breakups in him but you become desensitized after that. It literally does not matter.
>>34770160Being unafraid of breakups is the super power that unlocks all the good aspects of relationships. I literally do not give a fuck if my gf were to cheat on me or if I had to break up with her or she decided to leave me or whatever. Does not affect my life. I will wish her will and find another gf and that will be another fun adventure. But the thing is she isnt going to leave me because women love when you dont give a fuck.
>>34770169>I will wish her will and find another gf and that will be another fun adventure.You went full circle and became promiscious yourself.
The key to getting sex is a stable, high paying career. You need to show you're a provider.
>>34770340Those are called hookers.
>>34770129Christianity is a fake cope
>>34768968Keep holding onto those thoughts and when you're 30 they will turn into regret. You need to talk to real life actual women. You will embarrass yourself a bit, you will say stupid shit, some will leave but eventually you'll find one that will stay.I went on like 3 dates before I met my to be wife between the ages of 22 and 25. I didn't start getting laid until I met her at 26. The one date was really fucking cringe. It's funny too because she asked a friend to set us up, it was painfully obvious she regretted that lmao. But you know what? I look back and laugh, even though it was a fucking awful date it was still better than me sitting at home and jerking off.Trust me dude, the guaranteed regret you will feel is infinitely worse than whatever cringe or embarrassment may await you on a date. Download some apps, talk to some hoes. It literally does not matter if you mess up.
>>34771262Which beats looking into the abyss all the time and saying life is hopeless so I should give up and just cuss at people for having no life despite making sure I have no life all the time from this hopelessness. Christians I have seen been far more productive than atheists. Christians are usually the workforce of America, but atheists I've seen usually tend to be NEETs who scream at people who disagree with them and then go make a Reddit post that exaggerates interactions with people.
>>34771428Once you know something is true/false, you cannot think your way into believing otherwise. Try thinking that 2+2=6.
>>34771447Well your science wouldn't exist had the churches back then not kept archives of it. Had it not been for Christians it would have been thrown into a fire.
>>34771428>Which beats looking into the abyss all the time and saying life is hopeless so I should give up and just cuss at people for having no life despite making sure I have no life all the time from this hopelessness.No it doesn't because that's not what atheism is. Atheism is freedom. It is the realization that this life is what matters and to live your life to the full with every breath you take and that you can be whoever and whatever you want to be and there is no afterlife or eternal punishment waiting. It is the realization that you can and should be a good and kind and loyal person where it matters because it will be paid back to you a thousandfold and that stupid nonsense like abstaining from enjoying casual sex because it's supposedly a "path to hell" is a lie made to keep your miserable.>Christians I have seen been far more productive than atheists.Au contraire my schizo anon. Christians are almost always fucked in the head in some way. From a personal anecdote the only functional people I see are atheists.
>>34771371>Trust me dude, the guaranteed regretMore than half of relationships and marriages end terribly and there are a sad amount of people just enduring their relationships rather than be alone so regret is possible no matter what choice you make.
>>34768968>I have become very pessimisticDo you think, perhaps, that your attitude could be reflected in an everyday behavior that chases women away?
