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>>34774568
you've already been an adult 10 years to figure it out. you probably need the military to put your ambition in hyperdrive cause you'll have realized how shit it is at times that it will be the worlds greatest motivator.
as for finances just live like you're in the depression. be frugal. save money as much as possible. limit vices and stupid purchases. i always add the shit i want but dont need in a wish list/word document/internet tab for weeks to months to mull over it and often realize i don't need it.
beyond that go to /bant/ for their financial shit thread cause most of /biz/ is indian scammers. we're in a clown economy anyways so who knows when it will blow, plus the job market is all over the place rn.
if you want to find a good woman go church shopping a bit

You want your "art" to influence people how, exactly? Sit the fuck back down and be glad to have any property or children at all.

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>>34774584
It took me a while to mature, let's say. I didn't realize what I wanted to do. But, now, it's go-time. There's not time to waste.
I'm not a military man.
I want to get a piece of land, and, build a house on it.
I posted The Wolf of Wall Street, but, I'm not into finance stuff.
I looked for a job for all of 2025, up until now, that wasn't food, or, warehouse related. I said I never wanted to go back. I rescinded on both of those, but, they rejected me. I now have yet another stack of resumes, and, I guess I will be trying to work at a corner store. The job market is horrendous, where I'm at.
I have a couple girls I could hit up; I have some I think are marriage material - but, what's the point, right now? I don't even have my own vehicle... but, maybe, I should at least talk to them.
>>34774605
By gaining a following, and, using my platform for good.

>>34774624
No shit. But what good exactly was my challenge

>>34774631
Unity, among other things. More than just giving to charity. Changing culture.

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>>34774624
corner store and land dont go together. land aint gonna be cheap unless market crashes for good or you're in west vagina.
you need to be looking at a career especially if you want kids. a career often requires sacrifice and if you really want it you need to lower your standards and be hungry. your post is littered with too much idealism.
you should be googling careers in demand
in your current outlook you may as well watch the clerks trilogy to see your future.

>>34774641
How

Too vague

>>34774644
IDK what to do. Should I stay at home, with family for a few more years, work at a corner store, and save as much money as I can to, maybe, afford property? I probably can convince them to let me pay them extremely little.
I really want to leave, pronto, though; I need my own place to grow, as a person. I honestly need a house to make art, and, be alone. Maybe I should try to find a cheap, secluded house first, instead of saving for an even more secluded property?
Or, should I get a one bedroom apartment, and, save that way? Will a cheap, secluded house be possible, any time soon?
I got a personal training certification course. I haven't even been doing it. I don't want to do it, but, it's either that, being a personal chef, or real-estate that I'm even partly interested in to make money before I, "blow-up".
>>34774651
I can't say. But, more than what most people say they want to do.

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>>34774658
>uncle sams knocking at your door
you need to face it you have no idea what you're doing. most 28 year olds know a corner store isn't going to afford them shit other than a slot in moms basement.
avoid renting if you can to save money.
do military, seasons of wildland fire, join ice, commercial fishing, a trade, or oil since you're too retarded to google. all these jobs will keep you busy so you wont have as much time to piss money away.
dont do corner store. its a dead end job with no career potential. if you do the math on some of these jobs it will take 10x the effort to make the same money as the list i just mentioned.
just talk to the girls too. you dont need to wait till you're mr money bags.
and desu i dont know what art you're talking about but ai is replacing most of that and only 1% of artists are breaking actual bills off what they do. people in the past worked a real job and made money off their hobby as a side gig.

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>>34774661
that one might go in the folder

>>34774658
You haven't faced enough to have anything of value to propagate. Maybe in the future when you go through with your plans. Maybe you're brainwashed by some art yourself and want to reach something that it propagated to you, or you want to be "cool like them"

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>>34774690
I was talking about a low-income apartment, if that makes a difference. If I make thirty-something thousand a year, and save for a while, that's... a bit of money, at the least. And, there's also two-hundred thousand dollar houses, out there. Those are attainable, right?
I've thought about fishing, and, even, getting a captain's license, and running charters. I don't want to do that. I won't do military, or, work for ice. Trades and oil are dangerous. Maybe carpentry, but, I don't know.
I want to make all forms of art, and, I have made most, in small ways, already. I've made a short video game, I can draw. But, I really mean music. It's really the only thing that is gonna stick in the future. I'm a good writer, and, singer. My friends who work w millionaire, and, even a billionaire artist say I'm pretty good.
Painting, maybe, but, IDK if the young culture is even going to care. I understand, most say art is a pipe-dream.
>>34774705
I have few, solid, inspirations. Maybe you're right. The idea of inspirations, and, wanting to be cool, like them, is truly something I've been wrestling with. One of the main ideas of one of my influences is, not having inspiration from others, being what you want to be, but, not following them. I don't really know what to do, on that subject. What does it mean to be brainwashed by art, in this context? Maybe I'm half brainwashed by art.
Also, I should say I do want to live an, "above-average" life. I want to be recognized as truly great, at something. And, I want to live an exciting life. I guess I do want to have a legendary legacy. But, if I help people, and, I'm not famous, that's O.K.
If I fail, I will be trying to make other stuff.
>>34774703

>>34774751
That's fine, follow the art inspo, make mistakes, make new art that is reactionary and supercedes the old and obsoleted art inspo that you tested and debunked in reality. Art makes some claim, you test it, then make new art when you have new claims. Too many want to be a cloutfag instead of making real art from the heart. Maybe you'll find something more specific as you try to help people and see what exactly people actually need help with

>>34774751
the only art thats going to stick is shit ai cant do. paintings (top .1%), concerts, shit like that. ai music is already all over the internet and no ones disclosing if its even ai.
30k is nothing. especially with bills in the picture. id look into maritime for a few years and save up for a house while looking for a girl. some of the maritime gigs give you half the year off anyways.

>>34774568
>>34774751
It is good that you are hopeful, young one, but you type like me when I was early 20s and thinking I have to get my shit together. I'm now exactly 30. And I have not gotten my shit together, nor did I get a job, and the gf I had cheated on me and left me behind.
You might be like younger me, all talk no bite. At least today I recognize that I'm a failure, and I'm okay with it. Occasionally I try to improve, but I know how I am.
Like everybody else, I encourage you to keep trying, but furthermore, as me - I encourage you to take the advice my grandmother gave me - Talk less do more, and silence is golden.
To be a bit more pragmatic/scientific - When you talk about doing something, you get the same dopamine release as if you did it. And then, for us, there's... Not that much reason to do it anymore.
This is why I try my best to not share things I do with irl people or even online, but even now I sin and do that from time to time.

It is an evil way for the brain to work, I believe from your texts that you are similar to me. Your visions of grandeur are actually a cycle of expectation and disappointment. One that takes you on really high highs, and really low lows. And the lows usually win. And when they win you go deeper down and lose time, which is the only thing you can't get back.
Well, I'll stop terrifying you with existential dread and just give you some sort of solution, or a way out - quit talking about your progress with anyone but yourself.
Write it down in a journal that you keep, or to chat gpt if you like, but at the end of the day don't talk about all the great things you're going to do and just start with something. You'll come to find that reality is way harder than your dreams, as you already know, and hopefully you come to terms with it, and be happy that you have anything at all. You need to be more realistic, in short, because you talk like me when I thought I want to be a celebrity back then - it's selfish, you don't need it.

>>34774751
>My friends who work w millionaire, and, even a billionaire artist say I'm pretty good.
Well you better get them to help you out then, or you're in the same worthless boat as the rest of us who lost out to AI existing.
What exactly is your music? You're not just another rapper/beatzmaker are you?

>>34774779
What are some good maritime jobs? I don't want to be far out into the ocean. That's dangerous.
>34774785
I don't really want to be a celebrity - I despise celebrities. I do want the influence that great artists have.

>>34774785
*second reply meant for you.
You can still be who you want to see yourself be.
>>34774806
I'm trying to get one to help. But, I cut them off.

>>34774815
>I do want the influence that great artists have.
What's a celebrity if not being influential through your works? Take the worst type of celebrity, bhad baby, she is still a role model for a lot of young women - she is very influential, she is a celebrity. Tolkein was influential too and is a celebrity still

>>34774823
And yeah I'm not shitting on your parade, it's good to dream, just be mindful of farming dopamine by saying it, because I fell into this trap, and I can assure you you're not better than me

>>34774568
>I want to have nice property / properties, be completely yoked, and, get married, and, have a few children
>mfw the baseline for being an average person 100 years ago is now what people consider highly successful

>>34774568
Ok you need a reality check. If u want to be a artist but ur not working on art 8 hours a day just give up. U didn't want to be an artist. I dedicated my entire life to this shit and I'm getting way too good.

>>34774815
tug boats are easy. commercial fishing if you want to make bank working 16 hours a day.
>>34775768
yup op needs a dose of reality. even if he wants to do art he needs the motivation to do it which a job will give. chuck berry pumped gas. you're already talking about the most competitive field on earth and adding ai on top of it.

>>34774751
All ur doing is extending the enjoyment of the fantasy of all of this stuff without actually having to do it. Because it's mostly hard work. It's a trade, all the fairy shit and the prancing around and doing rituals and fucking around in the studio is a way to extend the enjoyment of being a musician without doing anything. Ultimately it comes down to this. Start now, make a realistic schedule as in you should practice at least 3 hours a day of REAL FOCUSED practice. Me? I practice my craft 8 hours a day because that's what it takes that's realistic 8 hours grind for ten years. That's more likely what you are going to be dealing with. Maybe 4 years maybe 2 years with a mentor.. and severe talent.

Your fantasy is valid, infact fantasy is paradoxical because you NEED a fun enough fantasy to sustain your motivation. For me that's to do molly and fuck tens while djing around the world playing the best festivals etc etc etc. is it realistic. That doesnt matter because nothing in your head is fucking real. Language cannot fully capture anything so when I finally get to play fests and fuck bitches it won't satisfy me. This is an engine so I keep working forever there is no END there is no retirement I will be grinding until I die. Period. And if that's not in you, go die somewhere, pathetic

>>34774568
>I want to have nice property / properties, be completely yoked, and, get married, and, have a few children - I want to influence people with my art, and, overall, I want to help other people.
Don't we all

>>34775761
>the average person was rich 100 years ago
No. It's shit now and it was shit in the past too.

>>34774568
who the hell cares you'll die just like everyone, everything you ever did will mean nothing and in the end the world will end anyways. why bother.

>>34775951
It's not about the fucking end.. it's about everything but the end.. period it's everything except the goal. When u get the goal ur enjoyment collapses after a short respite.. that's how it works that's why u have the old adage of "rich people are unhappy" because they get money and they feel empty because emptiness is a inherant state called lack. Lack is a fundamental psychological tool that creates desire. It is structural. U need to constantly be walking towards a fantasy you enjoy, know that it won't satisfy you but do it anyways. Because enjoyment fulfillment happiness triggers when you are ON THE PATH TO YOUR DESIRED FANTASY period point fucking blank. That's all.

>>34775802
Ah, a DJ.

>musician
>art

Why are you asking us? You have a God.

>>34776292
Lol I have more technical knowledge about music then you have knowledge in totality or potential. My audio engineering and producing skills are literally world class I'm literally probably top 1000 in my state period and we have big producers here. A good DJ is essentially producing on the fly as well. I'm so good that AI is a joke ting. It will make you mid but it will never make you great. I say this because I want you to know that I am a god. Ordained by my own will.

>>34776331
>and producing skills are literally world class I'm literally probably top 1000 in my state period and we have big producers here.
Kek. Top 1000 in my state. Did you know that i am top 1000 in cs go in my state? That's world class.

>>34774568
>28
>no money
Lmao that's crazy dude. You were supposed to live at home for the last 8 years, putting all your money into meme coins with a 120x return.
Rince and repeat 50 times and you would have been a multimillionaire.
This method is basically patched now.

>>34775841
kek he had everything else though.

>>34776331
Cool but you're still a DJ playing shit music for shit people, not a musician or artist with talent. Definitely got the ego and personality for it though.

>>34776404
I wanna make my own.

>>34775777
Tugboats? Like fishing?
>>34775802
I feel similar!
>>34775835
How do we do it
>>34775951
Yeah, you can argue that legacy is meaningless. I disagree. I think people talking about you after you pass on, and, your legend going down in history is pretty cool.

>>34777480
>Making your own meme coin in the big 26
Good luck retard

>>34778417
Why