This is her. The swine of the house. She is 17 and turns 18 soon, dropped out of high school, and has to repeat 11th grade if she ever decides to continue education. She shows no intention or interest in getting a job or contributing in any way, shape or form. She refuses to help around the house. Every time we ask her to do anything she throws a temper tantrum and tells us to fuck off. It can be as small as asking her to take dirty dishes to the sink. She will not do anything. My mother enables her behavior, me and my sibling have gone to her countless times just for her to dismiss any criticism towards Miss Piggy and lets her treat everybody in the house like shit. She pulled the depression card 2 years ago and threatened to kill herself every time she didn't get what she wanted. We went through her phone and found out that she was doing it for attention and to be manipulative, but alas, the mother still does nothing. She weighs around 300+ pounds and eats all of our food in the house with no regards to others. She eats the food I purchase for myself. She doesn't ask if she can have it. I ordered lunch for me and my sibling and excluded her on purpose, and her reaction was to throw a temper tantrum and bring mom into it and get me "punished" despite being a grown adult with a job. I am not entitled to give her anything. She is also lesbian and possibly non-binary or some other form of queer. I don't know all that well. Been to the psych ward numerous times and gets the cops called to our house at least twice a year. I don't know what to do with her. I need her to have a reality check so she can get her life back on track, but I personally believe she may be too far gone. Please give me advice. This is serious. My desperation is being made clear here.
>>34774839It sounds like your problem is more with your mom than with Miss Piggy.I mean, why the fuck is your mom arbitrarily taking her side every time she throws a fit? She has no reason to EVER change if mommy is going to give her the feminist rug sweep every single time she does something wrong. She’s not going to get her life back on track. This was probably her track to begin with.Also, some idiot is going to show up to this thread and try to make 500 medical excuses for your sister because they don’t believe a woman can ever be accountable for anything. Ignore them. Having any kind of autism doesn’t excuse the fat cunt from doing this and doesn’t justify your mom being a shitface about it.So all that said, you need to move out. This situation may not escalate but it’s certainly never getting better. Also it probably will escalate now that she knows threatening suicide gets her what she wants.
Well when her mum dies and nobody's providing for her anymore, what she gone do? That's the reality that's coming
>>34774839Things like this were quite easy to resolve back in the day.You either work in the factory or mines, or you starve. Simple as.Now modern comforts and coddle culture means dead weight doesn't have to do anything.Frankly you have to give them an ultimatum of get your shit together or you're gone. Once the comfort gets threatened, hopefully they do something of value. If not, they deserve whatever fate the streets have for them.
>>34774839>This is her. The swine of the house.Reading this post in a stoic elderly angry Shakespearean actor voice makes the post go hard
I don't think the depression card is invalid in this case. I know the topic is nuanced and all but letting yourself go to the point of becoming an obese pig is something that signals she gave up which is worrying coming from a 17 yo kid. Clearly she has trouble regulating her emotions.. put her on therapy or something like that. The mother should be in tune with the idea as well.
>>34775040A long time ago, I read a book called “Why does he do that?” because I had an abusive dad. One thing that stuck with me from the book was this therapist talking about his domestic abuse centered therapy sessions. He said that when asked why the men acted violent the way they did, they always cited a lack of control. “I just lost it and couldn’t control myself”. But then therapist man would ask something like>so you had her there, pushed on the ground. Why didn’t you stomp her head in?And the man says “Jesus Christ! I wouldn’t go that far!!”>Oh so then you were in control of yourself because you DID have a line drawn for what you consider “too heinous”. You just didn’t have beating your wife behind that lineHe said that in his entire career, only two men had given the legitimately out-of-control answer of “well shit I don’t know”So my point in all this is that even depressed people do have control. There is no moral reason that depression excuses accountability and they’re always in much more control than they’ll ever admit.
>>34775050Crazy how muh depression excuses young women from controlling the entire house but not young men. Young men need to man up and get a job and admit everything around them is their own fault lmao
I think you should really consider getting her help. Not the cute “she needs therapy” help. Therapy is cool and all, but I’m talking “hardcore” help. Take her to a psychiatrist. Get her diagnosed officially and on medication. Possibly get her support and financial help from social services if she’s getting diagnosed with something heavy. So many antidepressants and stimulants suppress hunger and motivate the hell out of your brain. I know a lot of people are hesitant about taking meds, but please, it might be the only thing that will actually make her do something and help her with her binge eating problem. I am talking from experience. I had a difficult childhood and puberty as a girl truly traumatized me and I genuinely believe that without these mind-altering meds, I would probably be severely underweight and fused to my sheets, or already dead. It changed things. Of course, it’s not a miracle answer. But it’s definitely a game changer for most.final point and most important advice: Instead of letting her throw around death threats when things aren’t going her way, your mom should’ve taken her already to a psychiatrist if she didn’t. If she wants to die, might as well threaten to get her admitted to a psychiatric ward– I can assure you that it will scare her enough into sobering up and start caring for herself. And if not? Well, for her safety, obviously, admit her to the psych ward. Different place, different rules, and no enabling mom to whine to. She needs a hard reset. I’m talking from experience. If she rots all day, nothing is ever going to change. She needs to throw herself into the uncomfortable icy water. Staying in the pee-warm water keeps her “safe” and confined to a life of bed rotting.Life can’t go anywhere if you can’t go out of your comfort zone.
>>34774839Holy shit. Gender this, sexuality that. Sheee/it, that THING is no woman. I assume you're living at home to save money. Just focus on yourself and save up for a mortgage, some people cant be helped.
>>34775060We live in a society that uses mental health as a trump card to accountability. People are incentived to be weak and limited.
>>34774886Be careful with your words. I and half of this board are dead weight, and you don't want to offend us, we're good boys.Dead weight isn't all the same, she is a problematic pig on top of being dead weight, I just rotted in my room playing games and fapping but I wasn't confrontational, and was generally pleasant to be around
>>34775050>“well shit I don’t know”Did he mean these two individuals in particular actually lost control and couldn't help themselves?
>>34775149Yes. When they answered the question “why didn’t you kick her head in” they answered “I don’t know”, indicating that they had indeed lost all control.
>>34774839talk to the manager.theyve already done irreparable damage unless they go hard mode on them. people only get more stubborn the older they get.at that age it usually results in start doing what i say or you're on your own. she'll go from a boar to a piggy pretty fast without electronics.
Is she single? Im Mexicans and I need papers. I can marry her in exchange of a green card.
>>34774839Not sure what you can do other than take away internet.
>>34774839>Been to the psych ward numerous times and gets the cops called to our house at least twice a year.So she has actual problems and you are being a piece of shit to her. Bravo.
>>34775324Just look at the photo and read the OP. It's obvious she has actual problems even if the psych ward isn't involved. You believe something is only "real" if the medical establishment has put a label on it and wants to charge you for treatment.
turn off the internet or put severe speed limitations on it to the point of uselessness
100% of morbidly obese people have had childhood sexual abuse and that is an indisputable fact. Get, the fuck, over yourself
>>34775147>I just rotted in my room playing games and fappingWasting electricity, and a good arm that could be used in the mines. Lock in cuh
>>34774892The entire thread.
>>34774839LA CREATURA
>>34774839>She pulled the depression card 2 years ago and threatened to kill herself every time she didn't get what she wanted. We went through her phone and found out that she was doing it for attention and to be manipulative, but alas, the mother still does nothing. She weighs around 300+ pounds and eats all of our food in the house with no regards to others.Lol. Just ignore. She ain't got no balls. Put restrictions on her and force her to do things. Otherwise kick her or starve her. See how she wakes up.
>>34775050Absolutely retarded take, especially because the subject of the book has absolutely nothing to do with op's issues. He just wants to clearly harass his mentally ill sister (deserving or not) and would likely make a candidate for being in that book himself.>>34775104lost cause, anon. he doesn't want to help his sister, just humiliate her. he's spammed this shit on other forums too. wouldn't be surprised of the reason she's like this is due to him
YOU can’t do anything for her. Buy a lockbox for your food and get to moving the fuck out. Your mom and sister are happy. Grow up.
>>34781739Absolutely lost cause, you are. You believe being “mentally ill” is a get out of jail free card and that’s exactly why young women like OPs sister can run their houses.That said, OP is too focused on his sister when it is his mother who enables every piece of this by submitting to control freak sister.
>>34781750>grow up and buy a lockbox for your food because your fatass sister is out of control. Obviously your mom loves itKEK
>>34784451If someone gets to 300+ lbs and is in and out of the psych ward, they have a deep psychiatric issue that needs to be resolved. Weight problems in excess in women are typically linked to childhood sexual abuse. I can feel for op in the sense of frustration or anger, but there is no need to humiliate his sister. I don't think mental illness is an excuse, but until the underlying issue is treated, it won't get better, and given how op acts (humiliating his sister), it is apparent he is part of the problem.Comparing an abusive wife beater to a deeply mentally ill person is insane and a sign of an actual intellectual disability.