>>34774934
Its more fun than rotting in bed, cause rotting in bed can get boring quickly. Not much more to it than that lol. Try it more than once and you will see for yourself. An idle mind is the devils playground as they say

>>34774948
i went outside yesterday and it was okay but now i don't want to go again so it doesn't really work
i tried to put on my socks and my feet were sticky and they wouldn't come on and it pissed me off
you do something once it's maybe fun but then you don't want to do it again or you get bored after 5 minutes or maybe 50 but fun doesn't last

>>34774948
or it's like, you sign up for something but then when time to do it comes you dread going and you end up giving up cause it's comfy in bed
well bed is a metaphor it's more often moving between bed and puter

whenever i feel like i have to [do something] i feel like killing myself

>>34774934
Because they wish to attain goals that require them to leave the bed

>>34775121
but what makes them wish to attain goals

>>34775172
The promise of having sex.

>>34774934
>what pushes them to do this
doing things is actually rewarding, even if often the hurdle into starting to do something is the hardest part

>>34774949
If your feet are sticky just take a shower bruh. Find solutions to your problems instead of giving up quickly.
>>34775172
They simply do, its not that deep. Ambition and desire are in our dna.
Life is like a hard videogame if you don't go through the frustrating parts you will never experience the joy of beating them

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>>34774934
no one in society has any expectations of you so naturally you'll return to a cocoon state. the only solution is the desire to meet someone or succumbing to the shame that you're a loser, since likely all the memes, data, and other stimuli you get all derives from your smartboy. so nothing you're doing makes you original but another copy paste 4chan reddit discord hive drone recycling e-waste like any other varmint does eating their own shit on repeat

>>34774934
Literally Testosterone

>>34774934
>why don't they just lie in bed all day every day
That's boring. And uncomfortable, eventually.

>why do they go out and do things
Because outside is where the sun, things need doing and doing things is fun

>what pushes them to do this
Life.

>>34775193
The solutions are too complex and involved usually so I tend to give up
>Life is like a hard videogame
I don't really enjoy videogames, I usually give up if it gets too hard or else I get bored after a while and this happens even when it's one of my favorite games
>If your feet are sticky just take a shower bruh
I didn't take a full shower I only washed my feet but well, it was enough to get me frustrated and not want to continue whatever I was trying
>>34775271
"meet someone" at this point i feel like i don't actually want a gf
like yeah i like women but having gf just seems like it'd be a pain, you'd have to humor her and she'd get mad at you for random stuff and you have to dedicate time to her when i just want to be left alone most of the time
you have to be soooooo careful what you talk about with women too it sucks
you say one wrong thing and they get mad at you forever, fuck that

>>34775334
>doing things is fun
maybe sometimes but when it's like YOU HAVE TO DO THIS NOW it makes you want to die

>>34774934
Historically, because of hunger, thirst and general causes of discomfort before death. Plus, I don't think comfortable beds have been around for that long.

if you struggle with doing things, try starving to death, your survival instinct should kick in.

I mean, litterally starving to death, not when you can just do a bit of shopping and get food. Maybe donate all your money to charities first.

>>34774934
Fear of consequences
If you don't do the bare minimum at your job you won't have a bed
Other than that I don't get it

>>34774934
Goals do.
Have a goal, OP

>>34777904
How find goal? How make goal matter?

>>34777905
Depends. Don't you want to bang girls anon? To bang girls, you must hit the gym and looksmax.
Here was one.

>>34777909
I am a girl and while I am bi that's not motivating

>>34777919
The same still applies. I don't want to get sexual, so here is the greater philosophy: Nobody is coming to save you. The longer you stay on bed, the more you will rot.

Life is like cuckold porn. You can watch, or you can be the wife (in your case).

>>34777927
Ok, I'll rot

>>34777931
Then don't ask about what motivates people. You chose to rot. Then rot.
/thread

How about less virtuous goals ? Isaac Newton started doing well in school out of a petty revenge against a classmate after all.

Who do you want to destroy ? Who hurt you ? If you don't get up how can you be sure they will suffer ?

Live for revenge, for pride, for gluttony, idk, any form of bad things will do. Have you heard of yaoi ? If you're here it means you want something else than just rotting in your bed, so join the dark side.

>>34777936
Literally the only motivator you mentioned was sex dude
I asked how people come up with goals that actually motivate them and your answer was basically "idk people just have them" very helpful.

>>34777942
It was an example.
Having a goal is simple, but pursuing it is something else.

If you can't motivate yourself to pursue your goals, then think about this. If you don't get that guy, some else girl will. If you don't make money, you'll end up begging. If you don't pursue your goals and reach them, you'll stay miserable.

>>34777948
I could always just kill myself.
I don't even have goals let alone motivation to pursue them.
When you have an escape route like that there's no point to putting in effort unless you want to, and I don't want to. The only way I can see to motivate myself to do anything is if I knew I couldn't die so I'd HAVE to make the best of it.
I've made attempts to do things that I felt like I should do, or that interested me in the past. None of it means anything I ultimately feel like it was just a waste of time and/or money and I end up in exactly the same predicament I was in before I did that thing.

>>34777954
>I could always just kill myself.
What stops you from doing that? Why aren't you dead yet then?

I can kill myself too. Right now. Why I don't?

>>34777955
Pain is scary. Plus I have a family event coming up that I'd be a real asshole for offing myself shortly before it. Gonna reassess in September.
I've attempted before and I want to be very sure not to fuck it up next time.
>Why don't I
Idk what your deal is why you asking me

>>34774934
Spirit of competition. I want to compete and win.

>>34774934
Their immunity to your constant brainwashing. Must be frustrating to be so impotent but it pays, right?

I just enjoy doing math / my other study hobbies
so I essentially go out of bed to do that
aint much deeper than that

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>>34774934
>At dawn, when you have trouble getting out of bed, tell yourself: “I have to go to work as a human being. What do I have to complain of, if I’m going to do what I was born for, the things I was brought into the world to do? Or is this what I was created for? To huddle under the blankets and stay warm?”
>So you were born to feel “nice”? Instead of doing things and experiencing them? Don’t you see the plants, the birds, the ants and spiders and bees going about their individual tasks, putting the world in order, as best they can? And you’re not willing to do your job as a human being? Why aren’t you running to do what your nature demands?
>You don’t love yourself enough. Or you’d love your nature too, and what it demands of you. People who love what they do wear themselves down doing it, they even forget to wash or eat. Do you have less respect for your own nature than the engraver does for engraving, the dancer for the dance, the miser for money or the social climber for status? When they’re really possessed by what they do, they’d rather stop eating and sleeping than give up practicing their arts.
>Is helping others less valuable to you? Not worth your effort?

There you go. It’s because they have sufficient love for themselves, their own nature, and the things they do. You must have these things too. Any more questions?

op are you still even here?

>>34774934
Not getting out of bed is actually a lot more difficult. Path of least resistance.