>giving in to sex with a man who you don't have romantic feelings for but have flirted with, after he pressures you and you say no several times but ultimately agree to do it >you and a man recently met and clearly like each other, have done stuff before once while super drunk, and you agree to go to his room, but he physically has to force the sex to happen because you didn't want things to happen that quickly(he wouldn't know this, u never said it) but also you never say no, you go along after the initial push is the second one just assertiveness and the first one coercion, neither being rape?
>>34779115first tell us what actually happened to you or what you did?
>>34779115>>giving in to sex with a man who you don't have romantic feelings for but have flirted with, after he pressures you and you say no several times but ultimately agree to do itDo women really?
>>34779115Did chad fuck you? Lol.
I'm having deja vu from that other r*ddit screen cap thread where the drunk girl told her boyfriend that she wouldn't hook up with him but she'd marry him.
>>34779115Neither. Neither of those sound like rape.
>>34779115ops not responding to questions. they're a faggot.
>>34779115The first one is clearly a rape because you explicitly said no. The second one depends, what does "force you" mean? Did he pin you down, rip your clothes and fuck you? Did you protest? Did you try to stop him?
>>34779354he just asked me to do a sexual act, I didn't react, so he pushed me towards his dick, and bc I wasnt doing it good he slapped me repeatedly
>>34782508time to move on, and lawyer up if you want to take it to court.
>>34779115First one is rapey, second one is on you
>>34782508Hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahaha ahahahaYou got raped gang big time
>>34779115>which one qualifies more as rape?What the fuck is this leaderboard
>>34782777>leaderboard
>>34782508Can i rape you also?
>>34779115are you stupid or dumb?if you didnt want it. ITS RAPE end of story
OP here. im trans btw
>>34779115>Does agreeing to sex count as rape?
>>34783244Where did she agree?
>>34779115First isn't just on the grounds of your language. "giving in" so you had sex, aka you weren't raped.Second one is the same as the first, you had sex. Maybe you didn't want to at the start, but you ended up having sex.That's not rape, it just means you ended up having sex with him even though you thought you didn't want to.I'm going to not even get into "he had to force" because if you didn't say no or stop, and went along with it, and you weren't fearful of your life or saftey regardless of what feminist froofroo at that point you're just sending someone to prison for no reason.The idea that the law can distinguish between a forcible rape, and sex you didn't want at first and maybe even resisted a bit at first, but then actually you got into it and fucked. Like there's got to be some personal accountability here, no you were not "raped" by a sensible extent that someone should be sent to prison. Are these men you fucked likely to rape someone for real? probably. But were you raped? I don't think so, but I only have your words to go off, I don't get to hear the guy's perspective here.Ask them if they'd have stopped if you asked.
>>34779115The latter is worse.The man is a piece of shit regardless, and she's also a whore for letting him have his way.>The first one is clearly a rape because you explicitly said no.She also agreed after repeated badgering. Sleazy and pathetic of him, but not rape.>>34782508Obviously rape. I'm now convinced you're a masturbating AGP. Kys.
>>34783550>She also agreed after repeated badgering. Sleazy and pathetic of him, but not rape.I would argue it is rape, he should have respected the first few nos
>>34783574He should have, yes, but it's not rape. I wouldn't care if the legal system screwed him, in particular, over with a rape charge, but the idea that women have no responsibility for their own words is completely unworkable at best. It's arguing that not only do you need affirmative consent (itself with a big a grey area in cases where a sexual relationship already exists), but you ALSO need to that "yes" to occur in an arbitrarily satisfactory way, like being long enough after the last refusal or counterbalanced with enough enthusiasm (however you'd even prove that) relative to the number or strength of the "no"s.In principle, sure, we all know that this is a douchebag who took advantage of a spineless woman. But it's hard enough to enforce laws against forcible rape without introducing all of these layers of subjectivity, and the collateral damage of creating that much ambiguity isn't worth it when all you get is *maybe* punishing a couple dudes who prey on women who can't be assed to advocate for themselves (read: good luck ever getting these types of women to press charges).
>>34779115Both because sodomy is Haram you raging faggot
>>34779115they're both extremely context dependent but neither sounds like rapeyou'd need to see a reenactment to judge in both casesit all hinges of the precise definition of these phrases:1: "giving in", "pressures you", "you say no several times but ultimately agree to do it"2: "physically has to force the sex to happen", "go along", "initial push"and by the same token, you need to understand how irrelevant these things actually are:"who you don't have romantic feelings for but have flirted with""recently met and clearly like each other, have done stuff before once while super drunk, and you agree to go to his room""you didn't want things to happen that quickly(he wouldn't know this, u never said it) but also you never say no, "NONE of these preclude something being rape. you can be 90% of the way to cumming while inside your girlfriend and it starts to become rape as soon as you defy her request to stop. a prostitute you hire can be riding your D and you can tell her to stop, and if she ignores that, it becomes sexual assault/rape (here in the UK you need a penis to do the raping).
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>>34784524where's the fucking rape line?is everything crossing it now?
