Why would women love a weak effeminate man?

>>34822727
literally nothing weak or effeminate about being a cuck. you have all the power and you're totally unaffected by anything other men can do

>>34822745
Hahahahahaha

>>34822745
>literally nothing weak or effeminate about being a cuck
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>do women all love having their cake and eating it too
Yes. Most people enjoy arrangements that maximize their pleasure.

>>34822727
>Why would women love a weak effeminate man?

Contrary to popular belief, a lot of swingers are manly, macho dudes. They are usually self assured, socially fluent and successful (often business owners). Rather than being some chump with a humiliation fetish they are usually perverts who like seeing their partner be a total slut - it's like live porn for them and they get to participate, or gain access to other women in the process.
Their wives are usually quite devoted to them because they're thrilled to be able to live out their fantasies without judgements. Their unconventional bedroom activities actually enhance their relationship and intimacy because neither one of them is stuck eating the same flavor of ice cream for the rest of their life.

t. bull who has fucked many wives and gfs

>>34822780
There’s two types, the ones that like seeing her have fun, and the ones that need to tag in someone better.

The first group is a LOT bigger than the second but you’d think it was the other way around if you listen to popular culture or mainstream porn.

>>34822805
From what I've seen, there are a few others:
>the guy who has low libido or a medical problem
>the guy who travels a lot
>they guy who is very controlling and gets off on directing
>actual cucks who love to be humiliated
>the guy who takes pride in sharing / likes to show off his prize
>closet homos who use their wife as a vector to fool around with men
>boat owners

>>34826162
>boat owners
lol based

>>34822780
yeah im OP and made this and i got laid so much that to me its more like
>if she is turned on by this and it makes her like me more AND shes hot and a sexual being about it, it doesnt bother me at all

ive oddly enough also been a bull before too, idk


i feel very indifferent but if someone is into it, i could get very into it

>>34822699
All I know is that imagining being cucked makes me fantasize about violence. I think it's nasty

Cucks are unironically chads lmao

Idk about cuckqueens though, why would they do it?

>>34829277
same reason male cucks do it, really

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I’m asexual and my online gf cucks me, it’s hard getting jealous when I can’t even imagine sex in my head. She treats me like absolute shit and makes me pay for her travels around Europe to sleep with other men. She clearly wants me to feel humiliated but I don’t really care that much. Calling the bull “master” is a bit much tho.

>>34829277
>why would they do it?
I've read a post by someone alleging to be one and the explanation was something along the lines of: It's empowering to know that while their partner can have sex with other people, he'll never have as deep a bond with them as he has with his gf/wife. And, counter intuitively, it might even have an aspect of humiliating the person who is doing the cucking. Along the lines of they're just being used for the guy to get off, while the cuckquean is the one he actually loves and cherishes and will always return to.
Can't say I agree, but at least it does make sense why someone might be into that.

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>>34829277
>Idk about cuckqueens though, why would they do it?

A couple of reasons:

1. For some girls, jealousy really makes them hot - they'll fuck your brains out to prove that you should stay with them. It sort of like girls who start fights just because they know make up sex will be good.

2. It's a weird sort of social proof / validation. A big part of a woman's attraction to a man is actually just a function of how much other women want him. If some other girl wants to, or is, fucking her man it's proof that he's special and worth of attention.

3. Some girls are actually bi and enjoy a good threesome.

>>34822699
Yes, it's sad but its true, as a man you want to be venerated and worship just like those narcissist bitches that we call. Now, i dont want to be with a cuck and i don't think you want to

>>34829686
Why do you even engage in this shit

>>34822727
Because she is a manly woman, people that date cuck do it because they know cucks would love them no matter how much awful things they do

>>34822699
I'm a guy and I personally do not understand the appeal. I would not want to be a cuck, nor would I would my wife to be either (not that I have one).

It just doesn't make sense to me. The only people that think this is appealing are porn/sex addicts.

>>34831288
Because she told me we’re in a relationship. If you’re a 37 year old incel with no romantic prospects, a beautiful 24 year old girl telling you that you’re in a relationship together is highly enticing, even though she cucks me, humiliates me and takes all my money.

I guess I’m a rare example because most guys push their partner into cuckolding because of their porn addiction, but for me I’m asexual and hate porn, and it was the girl who pushed me into cuckolding.

>>34831544
So are you actually into it, then? As in, are you doing it simply because you want to be with her, or do you actually enjoy it? Sounds like the former and you're a cuck in the worst possible way.

>>34831594
I’m asexual, I can’t even imagine sex in my head and I’ve never had a sexual fantasy, so being humiliated in this way is the only way I can feel something. I can’t feel jealousy for something I can’t even conceive of. I just feel humiliated because this guy she’s sleeping with gets the best version of her for free, and it makes me feel like I’m lesser than him because I have to pay for her attention.

I fell in love with her so badly that I almost got sent to a mental hospital because they were afraid I would work myself to death to make her happy. We don’t have safe words or anything

>>34831544
You're her wallet, not her partner

>>34822699
Cucks are vermin who should be lined up and shot. No exceptions.

>>34831613
You're a fucking retard.

There, now that I've insulted you, post your info, start paying my rent piggy.

>>34831613
That sounds horrible and I can only assume you are unbelievably mentally ill to go along with that or even convince yourself you're in love with someone who is treating you that poorly out of desperation. Just make a platonic female friend and stop letting people take advantage of you, clearly sex is irrelevant so what difference would it make to be "in a relationship" with someone only interested in emotionally and financially abusing you. You are such a retard it makes me feel bad. A padded room with only monitored visitations would genuinely be an improvement for someone like you.

>>34822780
>Contrary to popular belief, a lot of swingers are manly, macho dudes
They've got really unhealthy tendencies to fuck themselves up. I mean outside of sexual situations

>>34822699
Maybe a two-way cucking sure? Where you both cuck each other? Otherwise how's that fair

Look I'm sure a good number of legitimate cucks enjoy humiliation. But I wish they admitted so, there's a subset of people there acting as though loyalty is wrong or some shit. It's ass backwards.
I'm also sure some just have such an inferiority complex they believe the only way they can have a partner and not be alone is if they let them fuck around. Or that they feel so physically disgusting but awful about "their partner not being satisfied enough" they'll just cope with it. But it's all fucking wretched.

>>34833701
>there's a subset of people there acting as though loyalty is wrong or some shit.
There's literally nobody saying this. Their scope of loyalty may be different that yours - in fact it might even be stronger than the norm. Consider the following:

Couple 1:
>10 years of "loyalty"
>neither one is excited by the other anymore
>maybe have sex once or twice week, possibly less
>he secretly watches porn and pays for OF content like a retarded simp
>maybe on a business trip he tries to drunkenly hit on a waitress, and fails because he's got no game
>she has an emotional affair with her work husband and can't help but think about being swept away by a handsome stranger
>she's so checked out she doesn't even think of him as sexual being any more
>each quietly resents the "ball and chain" as they rot away dreaming about whatever


Couple 2:
>they communicate with each other, openly stating their desires, fears, and boundarys
>they reach new levels of trust and intimacy while living out their fantasies
>each is happy to help the other experience pleasure
>they're both getting their needs met, which makes everything else in the relationship easier
>no need to keep secrets, no worries about somebody's hot co-worker
>They make plans together, travel, etc.

Which relationship would you say has more loyalty?

>>34834281
You're painting a retarded scenario as the very norm to excuse the fact you're defending stabbing someone in the face instead of the back because "at least it's honest".
Porn ruined your perception of the average relationship.

>>34822699
My ex was otherwise extremely jealous but was going to let me fuck her (married) friend because the husband was a loser and wouldn't fuck her but the friend had second thoughts about cheating on the guy. Then my ex drank herself to literal death. The end.

>>34834905
You're just reflexively raging against a concept because you can't imagine enjoying it. You're so afraid of loss you can't even think of other people enjoying something you don't like. If you're honest with yourself you'll find these feelings are rooted in insecurity.

>>34834281
Not that guy, but I would still say 1, because they still don't cross the line to actually do anything. Their loyalty is deeply flawed, but still technically intact in that one crucial sense. The second couple (if you can even call them a couple) has "redefined" loyalty into meaninglessness.

Trust, intimacy, and personal satisfaction are separate concepts from loyalty. You're just attached to the connotation of all of them as "good", and are willing to bastardize all sense of meaning to reject any other connotations to the behavior. Use whatever words you want, but the "loyalty" of the second couple doesn't even remotely resemble loyalty in the sense others understand it.

>>34835090
>because you can't imagine enjoying it.
Whether he can or can't is beside the point. Enjoying something has absolutely nothing to do with whether it's loyalty in the traditional sense. Personally, I don't care in the slightest whether they enjoy it. The actions are intrinsically wrong to me, regardless of their motives.

>>34835995
>Use whatever words you want, but the "loyalty" of the second couple doesn't even remotely resemble loyalty in the sense others understand it.
Hell I'd say it's not loyalty but rather lack thereof under contract. You already know you're getting a horrible deal, but you signed up for it.
The problem is this perspective that because it is morbid and tickles someone's testicles it's somehow good and we just don't know because we're not open minded enough.

>>34835995
>Not that guy, but I would still say 1, because they still don't cross the line to actually do anything.
So you call it loyalty when people do or don't do ___ while secretly engaging in activities that would hurt the other?
It seems you only car about physical integrity.

>>34837302
>It seems you only car about physical integrity.
The next sentence specifically says their loyalty is deeply flawed. I do place a higher weight on physical actions than mentality, yes, but both are obviously important.
I wouldn't describe the first couple as remotely healthy. But would I say they're more loyal, i.e. exclusive, to each other than the second? Yes, if only as a technicality.

>>34829277
My wife likes the appeal that other women find me so hot. She likes that I have a higher/stronger libido enough to fuck her and another girl into a stupor on the same evening
>>34822805
Many are into compersion(partner pleasure) over humiliation.