>>34833706
Your best bet is to find one with daddy issues. You still have to look decent though.

>>34833706
The age gap hysteria is the psyop that nobody in real life actually believes. I’m not sure how anybody could go without seeing this.

>>34833732
some fall for it or delve into it because of childhood trauma. my ex was attracted to older men and the range shifted more and more as she got older, so by the time she was 30 for the gap to be substantial enough it became 55+ , mind you this is if the geezer was dracule youth retaining was it considered attractive. Basically they want a solved person to take advantage of what was gained over years.

>>34833732
There is no hysteria, young women don't want you old farts irl

>>34833749
>>34833762
Which one isit??

>>34833706
>ask a girl out
>she mocks you, shames you, paints you as a predator and she is the victim
>45,500 people agree with her in the likes
>1,160 people talking shit about you for having the courage to ask a girl out

The age gap is irrelevant she doesn't even know his age, she says "possibly" 6 years older. The point is she wanted to make the guy who asked her out feel uglier older creepier he could have very well have been same age or within 2 year age gap. The age isn't the point, when a foid feels ICKed out, her goal is to humiliate you and socially crucify you in front of as many witnesses as possible in this case 45k of them. And remember
>They are complaining that no one wants to ask girls out anymore

>>34833767
>A Tawkify matchmaking survey of nearly 99,000 U.S. clients found 95% of women were open to dating older partners (average acceptable gap ~14 years). By comparison, only 65.7% of men were open to older partners. Women were also open to younger partners at high rates (88%), though less so than men (96.5%)
>Data from the French dating site Meetic showed ~92% of women overall open to older partners, with exclusive preference for older partners at 17%. Among 18–24-year-old women it was especially pronounced (98% open, 42% exclusive preference for older). Openness to younger partners started lower and rose with age.
>Marriage and partnership data consistently show men older on average (worldwide averages around 3–4+ years; U.S. data often show the husband older in a clear majority of couples, with wife-older arrangements much less common).
>Women are more likely than men to have dated someone substantially older (e.g., Ipsos: 28% of women vs. 21% of men reported dating someone 10+ years older)
People in denial call it daddy issues for some reason and when they do that they calling a majority of women daddy issues kek.

>>34833780
When someone is working out you don't approach them. And saying creepy shit like "I was watching you the entire time" is even worse. He deserves to be shamed.

>>34833794
We don't know the whole story and I don't think it's worth listening to the girl who posts it for clout. He could have said something like "Hey I was watching your workout you did a solid set. I was hoping we could grab some lunch later" etc etc. but clout chasing women often reframe events to maximize drama. I don't encourage cold approaching either but to socially shame someone on that scale over it is fucking obscene

>>34833706
Some women value stability which younger men often lack, especially now a days since there is a surplus of basement dweller stock
If youve aged poorly and look like humpty dumpty no one is going to want to be with you unless youre rich. Then you need to ask yourself why they want you.
Look at yourself in a mirror first and ask if you look like dating stock or bargain basement

>>34833706
Yeah it's a cope unfortunately. When a socially anxious anon reflects on all the parties he's not invited to (because he doesn't talk to anyone) he can soothe himself by saying "it's okay, when I'm thirty I'll have all the 20 year old girls I want. After all, we all know that men only improve in looks with age!". This is not what women actually think and indeed if you look at the stats they mostly date guys who are like, 2 years older than them.

>>34833706
Yes, at least in the US. Influencers ruined women's perception of how easy it is to attain wealth and fame, now having a car and your own place and money isn't enough you have to have all that shit and be their age for them to care. Most of the time when guys in their 30s get on here and brag about having a "teenage gf," it's some fat 18 year old movie theater worker or cashier who can't get guys her own age.
I know in Europe things are a little more civilized.
>>34833793
This data is useless unless we know the average age of those women. A 30 year old woman willing to date a 45 year old man is very different from an 18 year old willing to date a 35 year old man.
>>34833762
>>34833862
These
>>34833800
>Some women value stability which younger men often lack, especially now a days since there is a surplus of basement dweller stock
Again, not enough for the young baddies you'd actually want if you're not a chuggo chaser. It doesn't even matter if you're cut up they can still see that you're a 30 year old ass unc in your face, I've experienced this directly before.

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>>34833883
>zoomer speaking like merlin
can it mass post nigger

>>34833706
aren't most romance stories before the 90's about an older man and a noticeably younger woman in almost every case? it's not a meme, it's not necessarily a moral thing to strive for but it is a part of history.
(and personally whenever I have a few times gotten a crush as an adult both times it was someone 6-7 years older, and while I can't really remember ever being intensely attracted to someone noticeably younger, I once had a thing just once for a professor. it was simply inside my head nothing happened lol)

>>34833706
I only ever had success with younger women but that stopped when I went bald

>>34833883
>Among 18–24-year-old women it was especially pronounced (98% open, 42% exclusive preference for older). Openness to younger partners started lower and rose with age.

Learn to read zoomer. 98% of the 18-24 year old women almost 100% declared themselves open to it with 42% declaring outright exclusive preference, almost HALF 1 in fucking 2 of them and the other half still open to it and won't say no either. When women are younger they want older. When women get older they want similar age, that's the consistent pattern and denying that isn't going to do anything

>>34833794
There's nothing wrong with approaching someone who's working out. It's not some high stakes super important job. It's a leisure activity. How hard is it to say
>I'm flattered but no thank you.
?

>>34833762
Even us older women would prefer a younger man. That’s just how nature works. We want someone that is fit and fertile so basically someone in their twenties

>>34833706
>Is women liking older men just a 4chan meme?
Yes and no. There are women who like older men, but 100% of them are mentally ill.

>>34834063
Cope harder. Us women will always prefer someone in their twenties. Not you balding, infertile, ugly loser. If you don’t understand it and think that we are so different from males and magically prefer someone that is older aka inferior genetics, then you are a full on retard

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>>34834098
Imagine being so upset you have to LARP as a woman. Picrelated

>>34833706
Women aren't a monolith so some do want older men and some don't

>>34833706
"ive been watching you" is my go to line, in all avenues of life

>>34833706
I’m 33 and some women I talked to seem to care more about my age as a number than how I actually look. Mostly don’t care or view it as a plus and compliment me for being so in shape at “my age”.

>>34833706
Eh, I work with alot of gen z and most of the girls have hit on me. It's no secret I'm in my 30s either, I tell them all I'm old as shit. Doesn't seem like a preference though as they also hit on the Gen z dudes. I think if you're attractive you're attractive and your age really only plays into it if you're like way older.

>>34833706
Woman making up a story on tiktok.

Women like money, status and aggression. What weight higher depends only on her hormones.

>>34833706
Youth is gonna be an advantage no matter what

>>34834195

Pretty much - you're hot to them or not.

>>34833706
No they like the idea of an older men. Such as status, powerfulness, maturity, stability and bigger than then. That's what they mean by daddy

>>34834098
Wrong a woman will always prefer a older guy that can give money and gifts instead of a 20 yr old who had no job and can't talk to pepole and doesn't even have a apt

>>34834075
>It's a leisure activity.
Yes, and do you like someone interrupting your leisure activities unprompted? Because I don't, and most people don't either.

>>34833706
I’m 40 years old, average looks, 5’10.

Last girl I fucked was 19, and she wasn’t a ham beast, she was cute with a nice body.

If a girl is attracted to you, it is what it is. It’s just nature.

That being said, it wasn’t worth it.

>>34834338
As long as they aren't pushy, it's fine. When else are you supposed to approach someone? During a leisure activity is the exact time one SHOULD approach someone. If all you know about a person is that you bith go to the gym, when else WOULD you get the chance to approach them? People like you make things difficult for no reason. If you aren't interested, just say "No thank you." and leave it at that.

If you're an old man, stay out of the space for young people. Your cells are senescent, your breathe is like a landfill, and your balls touch the water when you sit on a toilet. You aren't attractive anymore, so go fuck yourself.

>>34834380
Well let's flip the question then: a woman working out is no big deal and it's not a high stakes situation, ok fine.
So how then is a guy wanting to ask her out (on sight, no less) somehow more of high stakes situation? How is that something objectively important that he really NEEDS to do in that moment? It's not.

>>34833706
Age gap was common throughout human history up until the last hundred years.

I will only date young

>>34834362
This. No way a 19 year old is going to curve Henry Cavill or Chris Hemsworth because le number.

>>34834429
Well sure, of course not.
Here is the problem: the average OP around here making shit threads like "hurr durr I'm a 34 year old virgin, what are my chances of amassing a harem of 19 year old hotties?" is clearly no Cavill or Hemsworth.
I'm exaggerating the thread premises for humor's sake...but not by much.

>>34834439
Harsh truthpill indeed. I don't age is the central problem in their lives though, more like a catalyst exacerbating unaddressed problems like their physique, bank account or social skills.
You're forgiven for sperging out at 18. If you cannot hold a conversation at the age of 30 then what's discussed in these threads isn't your most urgent problem.

>>34833706
Young women like older men the same way SEA girls love white men.
They're in it for the money and nothing more

>>34834387
>If you're an old man, stay out of the space for young people. Your cells are senescent, your breathe is like a landfill, and your balls touch the water when you sit on a toilet. You aren't attractive anymore, so go fuck yourself
>P-p-please stop fucking the girls my age! There's none left for m-me...

Relax zoomie boy, just because younger girls are thirsting for older men doesn't mean older men are actually wanting to fuck them. It's similar to when older MILF women don't want to deal with some 20 year old retarded guy, the orgasm isn't worth the fucking headache of dealing with the immature retardation. Some older guys fuck them, most don't because the second you reject them or if things break off the little brat will weaponize the age disparity to paint herself as a victim out of social vengeance. Not to mention a lot of gen Z girls are just as cracked and mentally ill as the guys so you can keep them

>>34834491
>just because younger girls are thirsting for older men
Except this thread is about how they're clearly not

>>34834518
This isn't a reddit echo chamber zoomzoom. Oldfags can post here just the same and share our anecdotal evidence as to why you're wrong. Brb listening to Steely Dan.

>>34834518
Majority of the actual thread says otherwise. Don't forget 98% of your girls are totally open to dating older and almost half exclusively prefer it the stats are there for you to read up on whenever you wanna face reality. You thought their whole calling men "daddy" was a coincidence? Kek

>Do women like successful older men who have their finances in order, social skills, fitness, maturity/life experience, etc.?
Of course.
>Do women like older men with nothing going on besides being older?
Probably not.
Usually the guy is older in a relationship. The older both people are the larger the age gaps can be (not as in "it's okay" but as in the older both people are the less it really matters, like 20 / 30 is a bigger life experience gap than 30 / 40). Once someone's an adult it's fine under the eyes of the law but you may find that really young people are not worth dating outside of their body.

>>34834063
>Cites data on the French when I was clearly talking about the US
You have some nerve to tell others to read when you can't even pick up context clues you stupid fucking nigger.
If anyone is the zoomer it's you, because you clearly have iPad brain. I'm 34, I'm just realistic because I know for a fact young women don't give a shit if you have a nice car and your own place, if you're above 30 YOU'RE OLD.

>>34834362
Why'd you leave out the part about paying her?

>>34834549
>Large US matchmaking surveys (e.g., Tawkify, ~99,000 respondents) find that 95% of women are open to dating older partners, with an average acceptable gap of about 14 years older. Women are substantially more open to older partners than men are

>A Badoo analysis reported that 26% of 18–24-year-olds would consider dating someone over 35, and nearly a third of women overall have dated someone 10+ years older.

>One third of them have already fucked someone 10+ years older

>One generational survey found Gen Z (overlapping the 18–25 range) expressed a strong stated preference for older partners (61% preferred older vs. 16% younger).
That's all for US findings.

>>34834532
Majority of the thread is LARPs
Wanna hear my anecdotal evidence? When I was in college I was fat, goofy, had no money, and yet looking back I was beating pussy off with a stick. I had options, I could (and did) cheat if I wanted to, with athletes, with other guys' girlfriends. I was single for like, 4 months tops once.
Now I'm in my mid 30s, I got into good enough shape that people call me visibly buff, nice truck, my own place, money to spend, but my dating life has never been worse. Any time I go places to meet younger women I get shut down immediately, because even if I'm in shape and have money I'm still an unc, and young girls don't want to fuck uncs.

>>34833762
Some do but you have to be attractive somewhat, if not that than at least rich and charasmatic. The average 4cuck wizard is none of those things thankfully

>>34834578
>let me withhold information then act like it matters when someone doesn't know what I didn't tell them
Amazing
>A Badoo analysis reported that 26% of 18–24-year-olds would consider dating someone over 35, and nearly a third of women overall have dated someone 10+ years older.
Let's see the statistics without the sugaring arrangements that girls will call "dating" so they feel less like whores
>One generational survey found Gen Z (overlapping the 18–25 range) expressed a strong stated preference for older partners (61% preferred older vs. 16% younger).
"Older" doesn't matter here without a number. Go ask what a Gen Z girl thinks is "older," they mean dating a college senior when you're like a freshman.

>>34834582
>I was a player in my youth and I got a reputation and now I'm surprised no one wants me

Great anecdote

>>34834098
ywnbaw

>>34834590
Waaah they're whores for dating men who have resources they should have been happy that I was blowing $500 on genshit impact

>>34834628
That would matter if I were not literally on the opposite side of the country from where I went to school and if I were not interacting with people who wouldn't know me from Adam.
Yeah though, I was a player, and you know what was the reason? Not money, not my crew cab 2500, not being 50 pounds lighter. It was being in my early 20s around women in their early 20s who typically want men in their early 20s (unless sugaring or some other arrangement is involved)

>>34834646
So you don't deny it's not really dating if they're getting paid for it? I appreciate your admission.
>Chinese gacha garbage
Projection, though funny enough being into that shit might actually have helped me with one or two ABG cosplayers

>>34834590
Zoomzoom I hope you're at least doing better at statistics on exams than when defending your insecurities on the chan.

LUV YA
GRANDAD

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Being much older (7+ years) will always be a general disadvantage with exceptions. Its not even about you looking old, its that youth and that time you have left of it is a certain status symbol. Young people look at being 30+ as something scary, the end of youth and fun and the beginning of slow decay. At 40 you are basically invisible and irrelevant. Older men are never chosen because they are old, its that despite being old they have things that make up for it.

>>34834404
>Age gap was common throughout human history up until the last hundred years.
more like until the last 10

>>34834696
Are young women chosen because of the number on their ID or because they're
a) more optimistic and playful towards life
b) generally better-looking
c) have more childbearing years ahead of them (something less relevant when you're a man)
d) all of the above

Choose, animeposter.

>>34834682
you're trying way too hard, LITTLE bro

>>34834711
Its doesn't matter why women are chosen, men are desperate and choose anything. Post wall women still have vastly more options than the best men posting in this thread. We're talking about old men. And I'm not saying its impossible for older men to date younger, I'm 34 and would have bagged a 22 year old last year if she didn't have a boyfriend. I'm just not delusional enough to think my age is doing me any favors.

>>34834655
>Calls it projecting
>Admits to being into it
You really aren't the sharpest dildo in the drawer are you

>>34833706
No

>>34834727
>Men are desperate and choose anything
Have you tried stopping being desperate

>>34834727
Why didn't you answer? What's psychologically stopping you from answering the question? Is it too painful for you?

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>be me
>22 with the same curly fade as every other mid in my year
>hitting the gym, tracking macros, no discord past midnight, actually trying not to be a complete npc
>still getting left on read by girls my age while they throw themselves at some 30+ dude who already has a career and a place that isn’t a shared house
>she says she wants “someone mature” and “with real goals”
>then soft-launches a guy who already won the game while i’m still stuck in the tutorial
>bro out here talking 401k and property while i’m budgeting for protein powder and hoping my student loans don’t end me
>lowkey cooked
>no rizz in this economy when half these girls are out here hunting for a provider who already made it
>and the second you notice the pattern you’re the insecure one
>keep telling myself once i level up they’ll finally see me
>but every time another 21yo is on some older dude’s arm looking like she just unlocked the final boss i want to uninstall life
>market’s mid as hell
>girls my age would rather be a side quest for a guy with assets than date someone still grinding
>and somehow that’s my fault for not being “future oriented” enough
>anyway
>back to the self-improvement grindset i guess
>surely pure effort gets rewarded this time
>no cap
>i’m so finished

>>34834728
>taking my hypothetical as a literal even after I openly disparaged it
Holy shit you are either ESL or profoundly retarded if you missed the implication that I am NOT into it or otherwise I'd have abg pussy.
Either way that confirms you 100% as a shithead zoomie.

>>34834758
What the fuck is an abg pussy? Don't claim ESL when you spout off cryptic shit yourself, speak English

>>34834756
Imagine seething and being delulu so hard you write all this
Definitely not something someone who could actually pull would write

>>34834816
You insulted AI, took 3.4 seconds to write

I'm in my early 30s and get way more female attention than a decade ago. Not even close. I'm also less autistic which means I can close the deal and take them home if I want.

The problem with younger women is that they're fucking stupid and don't have their biological clock convincing them to be rational and start a family yet. So you're stuck with an ex-child that knows nothing about life and needs instructions (IE don't do drugs, fuck strangers and ruin your potential).

>>34834852
The real reason to be against age gap relationships is not to protect the woman from power dynamics or whatever but to protect the older male from having their brain rotted/melted.

>>34833762
Young men have nothing to offer except hair. They have no money, no property, no sense of direction and no confidence.

There is a massive difference between older man and grandpa

Girls don't want grandpa

>>34834582
women are fucking retarded. more news at 10.
thanks for sharing though.

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Normalise 10 yo gap once again.
>me to the left as a 40yo man

>>34834852
>The problem with younger women is that they're fucking stupid and don't have their biological clock convincing them to be rational and start a family yet. So you're stuck with an ex-child that knows nothing about life and needs instructions (IE don't do drugs, fuck strangers and ruin your potential).
Thankfully someone said it. Not to mention the SSRI addiction and the weird fixation with manifesting and astrology and the belief in new age crystal dog shit, theyre mentally ill

>>34834897
*to the right
I need some sleep..

>>34834897
based unc
dont worry, robowaifus are coming soon

kek it is 100% a meme

why would a young woman want an old man that is past his prime

i want someone MY OWN AGE, stop approaching younger girls and stop being a pedophile

grooming a 19 year old as a 30 year old man is not okay

>>34834869
Speak for thineself. My grandfather has swag and young women regularly sit on his lap without him paying them a single dime. They probably won't fuck him but he's fucked thousands of women if I'm to believe him. Considering how women just chill around him I'm inclined to think so. It's like they still sense he was a sexual beast in his prime.

>>34834897
>Normalise 10 yo gap once again.
It will never be normalized because the same girls who want it are the same girls who demonize it. If a girl gets picked by an established older man all of her girlfriend scream about it out of envy because she got picked and they didn't. Women are barking mad like that

>>34834929
>grooming a 19 year old as a 30 year old man is not okay
Why not? Defend your position.

>>34834727
At least we have a grass toucher here. It gives me the total ick to see men in their 30s hoping to find a 20 year old girl lol, it is just offputting. Older men are not attractive. Maybe if you have a few million in assets, but then you will just attract golddiggers that eventually will divorce rape you.

>>34834929
>grooming a 19 year old as a 30 year old man is not okay
Then tell you what how about we just increase the voting age to 30? If a 19 year old is too childish to have a relationship with another adult then they're too childish to vote on the future of the country how does that sound?

>>34834941
Oh great a other grown man larping as a female. No girl says "divorce rape" tranny

>>34834936
There's two main groups seething about age gaps. Older women who are trying desperately to manipulate the natural order of dating market, and secondly young men who do it for the same reason.
It's the same as whiteknighting really. Weaponised moralising. Grow up and make yourself fuckable or deal with the consequences of having idled too long (especially if you're a woman).

>>34834404
In historic times women weren't *forced* to marry older man just to have a secure future. You are delusional.

Women want men their own age. We can take care of ourselves, we don't need you for security and stability anymore and we can choose who we marry now. Which is not the old bitter man, but someone that is also in their prime just like ourselves, aka in their 20s.

>>34834941
>>34834950
tis but a flesh wound

>>34834387
this lol find someone your own age pedophiles

>>34834952
I'd say it's
Older women (due to insecurity)
Younger women (envy when they don't get picked)
Younger men (if they're fatherless and think like a woman)

>>34833706
If you attractive and with strong social proof numbers dont matter. People tend to break their own self-appointed rules for people they like

She said he was balding so she was more offended over that and the fact that it was an ugly dude hitting on her. When people say women like older men, they mean conventionally attractive, buff 30ish year old guys who have their life together, not balding 50+ year olds with wrinkles and a beer gut.

>>34833762
well said.

>>34834953
>We can choose who we marry now
That's a funny joke considering only 4.8% of gen Z women managed to get married before 25. And over 56% of gen z women are expected to go to their graves without ever having been married.

>20s
>In their prime
This is true for women, this is not true for men. A man's prime is in his mid to late thirties peaking at 38. Because men at this age have established wealth, assets, have developed emotional maturity, have become rooted in their communities, and have cultivated fitness and experience. Your average 20 year old male today is on his PC playing fortnite and masturbating to pornhub.

>>34834086
Based milf

>>34834937
>>34834852
>>34834745
No response to these posts and instead we get shit like >>34834960
>>34834976
>>34834941


I wonder why the estrogen-rage trannies are afraid to (you) and have an actual discussion. Oh well I guess you can't inject courage.

>>34834971
>If you attractive and with strong social proof numbers dont matter.
I agree but the problem is most men aren't anything close to that. Age can only work against you when it comes to younger woman.

>>34834988
>Based milf
See
>>34834123

You complimented a tranny. Not surprising a tranny showed up, it's their tact to prey on the lonely young men for free validation

>>34834398
It's not high stakes. It needs to be done then because when else are you going to do it? You don't know this person and only see them when working out. You're making asking someone out to be a bigger deal than it is. Quit being an autistic faggot holy shit. You're asking them for their number/to go on a date, not if they wanna convert to Christianity.

>>34834991
>Age can only work against you when it comes to younger woman
Only if you allowed yourself to age and accrue nothing. The reason why girls go for older is because the age number for a man is (or was) a reliable indicator for where his life is at. Men 30 and above always indicated that he had a foothold in a career, had his own place, moved out of his parents house, had his shit together and had a plan. If a 30 something year old has none of this, he is a worse prospect than a young man his own age because at that point the young man hasn't fucked his life up and still has odds of success.
The age gap attraction only works if the man has his shit together. As a general rule the older the man is the higher likelihood he has his shit together. Most 20 year old guys have nothing going on.

And while that seems unfair and cruel and like a double standard you need to remember, women don't need to be doing the same shit as a man. Most men hate the girl boss shit, it's unattractive. So the established men will take the younger woman because she has higher promise of fertility, older women are less likely to be fertile and less likely to have a functional sex drive. That's why older women get so mad and upset about it when a younger woman is chosen over her, especially if it's a man who is her age, seeing a man her age choose the younger model drives her crazy.

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>>34834981
>A man's prime is in his mid to late thirties peaking at 38.
Holy unc cope

>>34835015
>The age gap attraction only works if the man has his shit together.
Yeah but the point is its the things he gained that makes him attractive, not the age. And a lot of younger women still won't care because they just see you as an old pedophile ass unc.

>>34834996
>Quit being an autistic faggot holy shit.
Asking a woman out on sight, before even knowing her or even talking to her previously, while she's working out in mid-set no less, is what's "autistic faggot shit". No skills or room-reading ability whatsoever.
>because when else are you going to do it?
You're probably not, and that's ok. This is what I meant by not high stakes. No one gives one single fuck if you're able to ask out the girl you want besides you, and in fact most of us will be rooting against it.

>>34835028
18 year old zoomettes would rather fuck 30s henry cavill than their cracked voice axe spray-wearing male peers

>>34835027
The uncs are coping harder than post wall single moms. There are only a very small percentage of men who peak that late, and always because of gaining money, not becoming more inherently attractive.

I do think money maxing is a valid strategy, but its still more attractive to be young and rich than old and rich.

>>34833883
>I know in Europe things are a little more civilized.

Thats putting it lightly for no one knowing the age gap purity spiral is even a thing. 20 year age difference is going to catch some looks, sure.
But
>6 years possible age difference
Who the fuck can even tell 6 years in people older than 20? This is some oddly specific pearl clutching, and in any WHite counttry that woman would be swiftly carted off to a mental institution to have her hysteria treated if a few hearty slaps do not bring her back to reality. This is just mutts using social media to spread their mental illenss as usual.

>>34835046
ywnbaw

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>>34835040
That's a false dichotomy. You took the absolute worst of her age group and matched him against the top 5% of 30+ males. In reality there are plenty of Chads her age to choose from, and most 30+ men look like george costanza.

>>34835028
>Yeah but the point is its the things he gained that makes him attractive, not the age.
For women those two things are synonymous because they are aware that it takes time to fry an egg, it takes time for a young man to develop and establish himself and gain his assets and his prosperity. Women use the age as the marker for who is the likeliest to have what, they've always done this, women are very clued into how social systems work thats the main psychological difference between sexes, women care more about people as a topic or subject, men care more about objects or concepts as a topic or subject. Women know exactly what to look for, that's why they shit test, they play mind games for the precise reason to evaluate the man, his tempermant, his character, his prospects, the whole nine yards really.

Normally women didn't care about older, they were willing to date guys their own age when young because they knew the young guy they picked would grow into success, they were patient. Young women now are the most impatient women of any generation before them. Dating apps, tiktok and Instagram, Netflix, Uber eats, instant gratification after instant gratification has conditioned them into expecting instant success from men her own age. They expect the 21 year old man to have the acumen and assets of a man in his mid thirties. And when she sees the young guy doesn't have that, guess which men she hits up?

>>34835048
Age gap seethers are just funny man. The same kid writing unc, unc, unc in this thread probably got left on delivered and got really mad after seeing a Chevrolet Nova parked in her driveway. Oops...

>>34835037
Asking someone on a date is how you get to know someone. That's the whole point of dates. Are you 12?

>>34835062
Stop it fellow unc, you will probably turn the little zoomer on you know his generation is very big on cuckoldry

>>34835063
It's how you get to know someone better you retard, not how you literally interact with them for more than 2 seconds for the very first time. Like, why would you expect any girl to say yes to that? What exactly do you think it is you're offering them here?

>>34835060
>That's a false dichotomy
Not really. If you're 30 you should have a wardrobe, toned body and still good skin. Not sitting on your ass for years, and actually improving your position in life pays off which given your underestimating of how much value women attach to things that are under our control--such as what I listed above--implies you failed at.

I didn't fail. Proof? I have normie-tier hobbies that involve socialising and surprise surprise, women over ten years my junior seek out my attention and propose to go on dates. That doesn't mean I'll get swiped right by 18 year olds when I make a tinder account but if you're using social media and dating apps to meet women you're ngmi anyways. A man like Henry Cavill wouldn't get tons of matches from zoomettes anyways, which defeats your point.

>>34834763
>he doesn't know what an abg is
Holy shit, you're not just ESL you don't even live in the fucking west
Go finish technical "uni" pajeetzoomer, you have a visa to score and a job to scam a white man out of.

>>34835081
Ain't that the truth son. Now I gotta answer this call from my insurance company - they say they have a discount if I provide my credit card number.

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>>34834868
And yet hair beats all of that shit. Curious.

>>34835181
Well thanks for nothing you incompetent buffoon I googled what abg was and it's Asian pussy, you could have just said Asian pussy. Don't talk about being white when you want to spot up your own race with mystery meat bird flu chink pussy. I'm not a sand nigger or a zoomer, you're a weeb given the fact you talk about cosplay shit and you wonder why at 30 something your age didn't become your asset. Maybe stop jacking off to Japanese cartoons

>>34835198
I am a weeb but that's better than being a brown third world loser like you. Now stop posting and go to bed, you have call center school tomorrow saaaar go get those google gift cards

>>34835249
>I am a weeb
>W-wuh why am I not getting bitches at age 30+ age isn't working you guys!
>Proceeds to live as though he were a 15 year old on deviantart

>>34835048
I never said anything about a 6 year gap being crazy, at this point you're just spouting off your own delusional nonsense
>>34835062
>>34835081
I know you're still kids but playing pretend is actual baby shit.
I know you desperately want to believe one day it will be "your turn" but it won't, it will never be and it will especially never be when you're 35 and bald

>>34835256
Doubling down on being a weeb would actually put me in more contact with younger women than pretending to be some serious Mr. Adult Man, but your social experience of being an American is limited to whatever tv shows and forum posts you get on your cracked iPhone 8 in your slum in Mumbai

When I was in my mid twenties, I got approached by a 30 year old guy. At first I found the age gap too big and thought he was a bit old for me, I really wanted someone also in his mid twenties. As a younger girl the same, wanted someone around my own age.

Decided to still give him a chance, and now I'm in my late twenties, and I don't mind the age gap so much anymore. I think it's also once you become a bit more mature, the age gap doesn't matter. If I had been 20, I probably wouldnt't have given it a shot.

So for me, I always liked guys around the same age most. But once you get more mature, the age gap is not as noticeable since you are both mature.

>>34833970
You don't know what a real mass reply is, you newfag goldfish attention spanned zoomer faggot

>>34835297
>I was approached by an older guy
>I didn't want it
>Just kidding I liked it and I dated him
Bravo femanon

>>34835270
>I know you desperately want to believe one day it will be "your turn" but it won't, it will never be and it will especially never be when you're 35 and bald

What is zoomzooms yapping about? I've been talking to women when you were still a casper in your dad's sack. Now 30+, went on dates with women between the ages of 18 and 40 and no amount of clacking on your keyboard is going to change these wonderful facts you couldn't recreate.
If you're my age, I'm so sorry brother. Go work out, fix yourself. If you're a seething zoomer then same to you because your time will indeed come and it's up to you to decide whether that's a bad or good time.

So what next? Are you going to spam another reality denying comment saying the sex I had wasn't real? Simply accept that people my age have sex too and sometimes with your crush. I'll give her some pocket money so she can buy you lunch lol.

>>34833706
It depends on what women you are talking about. I feel like women in their late twenties are more likely to want to than women in their early twenties.

>>34835370
Nice iPhone spacing, newfag, yeah you're definitely a millennial lol you're not a maladjusted 26 year old LARPer for sure.

>>34835400
Nice iPad reaction timing zoomzooms. Maybe uninstall Roblox so you can keep up with my pace.

God it's so fun to bully zoomers FUCK man it's such a rush

>>34835443
>accusing me of having a short attention span because I'm replying in the thread I'm commenting in and not bouncing around multiple webpages
I know you kids are getting dumber and dumber everyday but use some sense before you reply next time, otherwise you're going to keep looking like a retard.

>>34835464
>FUCK it's such a rush to post cuck fantasies online to "zoomers" that exist only in my imagination and LARP like I get pussy even though the fact that I'm posting on a Tibetan tapestry blog page means I very clearly have no women in my life because if I did that would keep me busy instead
Not the flex you thought it was, boss

And the fucked up thing I must confess I don't even like their women, I think they're absolute skanks who popularized OF sluttery, even gen alpha can't respect zoomers, the kids call zoomer girls out for what they are, two bit skanks who spread their legs for creepy Indians online. My hatred for zoomers started the minute I saw that broccoli fade. That is my darkest confession, I decided then and there I hate their generation forever that one haircut alone stirred something hateful in me.

>>34835466
Sorry cuh didn't read was talking to your crush

>>34835560
>his mental paradigm still contains the idea of having a "crush"
Awww you really are just a little guy, aintcha?

>>34835595
So are you going to respond to >>34834745
?

>>34835110
That's the same thing, retard. Why is an /r9k/ faggot trying to give dating advice?

>>34835342
You are quite obviously not reading all of the context.

>low IQ faggot.

young girls dont want old guys after their prime, go cope

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>>34834123
hehehee.....
HAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>34835669
you sound indian

>>34833706
For younger girls yes.
A college girl who sees a grown man, with a real career, a house, more emotionally mature and secure is going to be a lot more attractive than her peers who has 3 roommates or still lives with their parents.

>>34833706
Women don't like any men, or other women. What they like is money and resources that they can burn through without having to work for them, simple as. Generally, older people have more money and resources.

>>34835619
This is so completely backwards I don't even know where to begin deconstructing it.

>>34833762
im dating a girl 10 years younger than me lol

>>34833794
He doesn't exist. It's engagement bait.

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>>34833706
Only six years apart??? You just had to come up with a whole other excuse instead of saying he's ugly?? God, I hate my generation's age difference insanity.

>>34833706
women dont care about age. the issue was that some ugly dude asked her out. if it was Aquaman or Justin Beiber that did it her standards would change fast

>why yes, I DO like the 20 year old who has no job, privacy, nothing to offer me in terms of a stable life and family, smokes weed all day, goons, and plays fortnite with his friends, how could you tell?
???

>>34835658
>You are quite obviously not reading all of the context.
You are an idiot. Read the actual outcome and forget about the word salad
>Girl gets approached by older man
>Girl dates him
>Girl continues to date him and feels glad for it

The whole "I wasnt sure at first but then I found out it was fine" in between isnt relevant. The fact was she got asked out by older, chose to date older, even admits she wanted the same age but threw that out the window because older was more appealing and she dates him. Cry about it zoomer

>>34836675
Most of the posters here advertising themselves as young women are neither young nor female.

>>34836917
Is this a zoomer thing? Do they like to dress up in internet drag and pretend to be girls to prove a point?

>>34833706
age is just a factor among others

funny thing is, in males, aging increases the probability other important factors are on point (financial security, stability, wisdom, culture, sense of humor). if you check all those boxes and take care of your body you can do very well until your 50's

in women, aging works against attractiveness on all fronts (looks, innocence, fertility, ability to get on your program, etc. all go down as they age)

>>34834931
Same for my grandfather. I believe for the same reasons you mention. I even see hot as fuck mid 20s eyeballing him from afar. Some slither over to get a better look. Hes also funny as fuck.

>>34835811
>getting to know someone
>getting to know someone better
It's the same thing, you're just trying and failing to be a pedantic dick head.

No. When I was 35 a 18 year old girl told me she was in love wkth me. Her face was mid but she was really fit as she played a bunch of
Competitive sports. I rejected her bc of the age gap. I was also kind of friends with her parents so there was also that. Her obsession with me got to the point that her parents took her to therapy over it and talked to me about it. They asked me to have no contact bc it was the only way to break limerence. But this was difficult bc I lived in the same neighborhood. Its been 3 years I think shhes still limerent as when her parents arent around she'll talk to me or wave and smile but if shes with her parents im just a ghost

>>34837258
To add to that there is also a 21 year old at my work that clearly adores me to tbe point that other coworkers point it out often. One day, I wasnt eve.n talking to her and she randomly walked up to me and said she cant date me bc im not Muslim.. I dodnt even ask her to date me I think it was some subconscious thing

>>34837152
>getting to know someone better that you already know, talk to every now and then, but have never spent more than 5 minutes in conversation with or seen outside the place (gym, etc) that you've met them at
VS
>talking to someone for the first time, EVER, who literally didn't know you existed until that point but lol yeah let's ask her out on sight anyway
Oh sure anon, exactly the same. I'm not pedantic, you're just an autist with no idea how any of this works.

The last girl I tried to date was an 11 year gap. Said I was to old, then went on to date someone with an 8 year gap.

Just don't listen or care what people say.

>>34837294
The CHAD option is to marry a girl considerably younger once you're financially well off in order to start a big and stable family. Ignore the seething hags and transexuals in this thread. It makes no sense to marry someone 30+ when you want to have 5 kids.

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Normalise 10yo age gaps once again.
>Batman me
>Batgirl my wife

>>34837268
Didn't read. Shut the fuck up. Not gonna listen to a faggot making excuses not to shoot your shot.

>>34833780
>>34833706
>>34834447
she posted this on TikTok to farm engagement. a 6 year gap is so small it will even get zoomer males seething and reacting in the comment. age gap discourse is mostly performative that influencers engage in to drive engagement with an audience. that equals more views and more ad revenue dollars

>>34834929
>reddit spacing
>grooming a 19 year old as a 30 year old man is not okay
a 19 year old is an adult and cannot be "groomed". 19 is not pedophilia either

>>34837258
how are you doing it? would you say youre a confident person, or tall or handsome? (or rich)

>>34837258
you made a terrible choice rejecting her. She is in her prime and loves you. The age gap is completely normal and fine

>>34834123
lmaoooooooo

>>34838930
She's mentally ill

>>34838930
Lol its ok for a child to be with a man in his 30s.

Yea its not, he is double her age. We dont live live in the 50s anymore. Her brains isnt even developed yet wtf kek

>>34839427
>18
>child
kys reddit nigger.

>>34839427
>Her brains isnt even developed yet wtf kek
So when does the brain stop developing mr neuroscience expert?

>>34839490
>The human brain continues structural maturation well into the early 30s, typically stabilizing around age 32. While the old rule of thumb placed full development at age 25, recent large-scale neuroscience studies show that neural networking efficiency and wiring pathways keep refining past the mid-20s.

Fuck. I'm dating a 24 year old. She's not even 32 yet. What a FUCKING CREEP am I?

>>34833706
Does this bait actually work? Shouldn't we all find it strange they picked the number 6 for years?

>>34833706
No, im a younger girl and i love older guys. But for the sake of transparency i mean older accomplished guys who have proper jobs and are well adjusted. But also going for an older guy as a girl is risky because theres a pretty high chance the minute you get a wrinkle they’ll leave you for an even younger girl

>>34839512
A lot of the tiktoks being posted are Chinese-made because they're using social media like a demoralisation tool.

>>34838873
I dunno ppl say I look like elvis. I personally don't see it. Im pretty charismatic, though. Ive never had an issue getting girls since I was in hs. I was shy when I was young and really worked on my personality around middle school age and now it happens naturally for me

>>34838930
Buddy this is real life. Im friends with her parents and if they dont want me with her im not gunna.

>>34838873
>>34839560
As for the girl at work, I dunno. Shes new and at first I assumed she was naturally like that with everyone until my coworkers pointed out how shes been acting towards me. But I dont want anythinf to do with her bc she often gossips and acts like a mean girl towards other girls so I dont want it.

>>34833706
It depends, I think woke women structurally hate it because of feminism but I work as a waiter of a restaurant and still see it all the time. Personally I am just trying to get enough money to get out of the West, age gap or not Western women suck. I would feel comfortable with a woman about 10 years younger but not much more

a funny thing about going out with a pretty 20-something is the stares you can get
sometimes it's an older woman looking jealous
sometimes it's a woman of any age looking out of curiosity, prob trying to guess what's so attractive about me besides the obvious (I'm 6'4 still fit)
most of the time people don't give a fuck though

t. 46

>>34833714
>You still have to look decent though.
This is pretty much the crux of the matter; at least if you're going after attractive women. Unless a man is prepared to let his standards plummet, this is the case regardless of age, or age differences. Unless you use money, but that's a horrible idea.

>>34835196
I have full hair and am 33, I have no issues with women down to 18. The reality is this, women don't want to cope. Being with a bald guy is seen as cope in society and being with a poor guy who is useless is too thus both situations are less than optimal. Only a few women care if you look good, especially in the West as few men do. Abroad things may change though for example in Slavic or middle eastern countries being bald is less stigmatized. Women don't care about numerical age, they want to be seen as aspirational daters, not losers. This is why with one guy 20 years age gap is talked down and another 5 years become an insurmountable gap.

>>34839769
No, he is a silly American because daddy issues literally implies that the man has nothing to offer but being older. If you look decent you're better than average and by default aspirational. The idea that any age gap must be daddy issues is a giant loser talking point. Women don't prefer men their age, they prefer better men. In the absence of better men they will either not marry or settle for someone their age because to women settling for want they think is a less than ideal candidate is already coping, so they don't want to cope about his age too. This is a question of idealized vs realized outcomes. Most women will never get with an above average manz it's numerically impossible. Above average outlier men regardless of age always mog.

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>>34833732
>>34833706
>>34833762
Not your problem, if she gets the ick and leaves, thats one less women you have to deal with which is a net positive

>>34839837
Honestly, this is the first real take about women I've seen on this entire site. Half a century ago, it was MORE shameful to be unmarried or divorced than it was to be married to a loser. But nowadays, since it's so common, there isn't any shame - and in fact, there's worse shame in being with a loser compared to being independent. But also, frankly, with women able to be independent, why bother settling when you can have less drama and more peace just being alone (unless you want children, of course).

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>>34833706

When they say they like older guys they're imagining a hot 40 year old lawyer or something. Not some gross fat 50 year old plumber or a 35 year old divorced guy working at a call center.

I feel like people were more chill about age gaps when Millennials were young in the 2000's. Some of my friends had older boyfriends and there were 28+ year guys still hanging out on our college campus even though they'd graduated or dropped out years before. But Zoomers seem to expect older people to stay in their lane.

>>34839864
Thanks, it's something I learned over the last 10 years. It's also why it's so easy to score in some place and so impossible in others. Age plays not much of a role for men as people would like to believe, I would put it way below height or having hair. If you want women to have children don't elevate them to the point they don't need a man for survival cause if they don't they rather go after chads (of any age), chase criminals, fuck their students because those aren't socially acceptable or date 60+ year old rockstars. Women just chase outlier experience. Marrying age appropriately isn't a brag, in almost all cases it's an act of top blasting a falling stock. Especially given women in their youth have 0 preferences for men their age to add insult to injury

I'm from a Western country and many of the young women who date their own age end up breaking up with them either because they're too childish, poorfags or directionless and cannot keep up with the woman's pace in life.

Maybe women maturing earlier than men is a biological sign that same age relationships don't work so well.

>>34834869
The cutoff age being?

>>34839917
>because those aren't socially acceptable or date 60+ year old rockstars.
Holy shit.

The amount of women especially "alt" whores that I've seen do this. All of them with crazy dating history, right before settling with a pension pimp.

>>34840030
Most famous example is the former speaker of the house of Drumpf

>>34840030
>The amount of women especially "alt" whores that I've seen do this. All of them with crazy dating history, right before settling with a pension pimp.
Really?

>>34833706
They only like HOT older men, not some ugly 4chan chud

>>34840117
Its mostly the same older men, previous losers can ascend but largely its the same set who used to dominate dating continue to do so. The idea that some tall chad isnt desired by women due to being 10-15 years older is femcel cope

Idk, I picked up a really hot 23 yo chick and I'm 29. Im good looking and in good shape though and I don't drink, smoke, or do drugs so I probably look like I'm in my early 20s.

I don't think the age gap does anything for her one way or the other desu, but I think it's kind of hot. Find someone with common values, who you're attracted to, and everything else takes a back seat.

>>34839837
>women don't want to cope
This, people underestimate this. Especially all these alpha influencers. Age gaps are ok if the man is an attractive package, they are not if he isnt. Exceptions exist in alt circles. What I find funny is that feminists are the most likely women to date much older men and then say shit like
> we are equal in the relationship
only to later do the
> I was never really into older men
to then do it again if another dude like this appears. They are just bartering for better deals, nothing more. Women would date a 90yo finance fucker or their 50yo teacher but they give shit to that normal guy dating a woman 8-12 years younger

>>34837364
>Normalise 10yo age gaps once again.
They are normalized in the middle east, africa and eastern europe

>>34840499
All places with a higher fertility rate than the west.

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>>34834474
But.. I'm a black zoomie and I just crave white cock like crazy..

>>34840504
Fertility rate is low everywhere except sub saharan africa

>>34840563
Read again

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>>34839837
>I have no issues with women down to 18
Can you tell us how you achieved this? Honest question for those of us who want to achieve this

>>34840603
No
You're wrong

>>34840640
Dont use apps, dont ask for their age, if she already likes you she will cope with yours because women have the inherent trait that they defend their choices and feelings. If you get blown out, dont be discouraged, simply approach the next one

>>34840657
Prove it lel

>>34839565
This is why I don't date women with families. All the women I've dated are either orphans or disowned their parents.

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>>34840733
Thanks, slayer-anon

>>34841338
More numbers are your friend also dont ever say anything demeaning about older women nor brag with dating a younger woman. It only hurts you

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>>34837258
>>34837265
Can you offer tips on how to get unsolicited interest from women? Your life sounds enviable to me.

>>34833706
I work at a university now, and the younger generation seems to prefer older men (more than my generation), because apparently men/boys their age are worse than previous generations

>>34837258
>I rejected her bc of the age gap
This mother fucker

i prefer older men because they are more likely to have developed genuine empathy (though not always the case, courtesy of all of you :/ ). young men are stupid and selfish and inexperienced. they havent made it through enough shit in their life to be admirable. i love a strong spirit, an older man that remains charismatic, kind, and hopeful about life even in face of everything being horrible is so attractive to me. im a vain girl and i care about looks too, somewhat, but in my defense ill call it biology... the age gap doesnt really matter to me personally. i am in my mid twenties dating someone in early thirties, if that matters.

>>34842133
ywnbaw

>>34841359
>Can you offer tips on how to get unsolicited interest from women?
Be tall, have a handsome face & broad shoulders.

>>34840135
This. There's the male wall when your hair/beard starts to grey and the wrinkles get more intense. 35-40 for most guys. Before that, women of basically all ages will be attracted to you, it's a question of how much pressure their friends put on them for dating you. Their girlfriend's opinions will be the ones that count, it's expected their guy friends will sperg out about it.

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>>34833706
Women are mostly into men with certain traits which are largely genetic and less subject to time-based decline. I dont want to sound too redpill-focused since I think the redpill movement is too radical about this and not nuanced. Hypergamy is real though but each woman has her own idea of an alpha male, they just largely overlap.

Height, face, charimsa, wealth - all of these however arent declining with age at the pace what women offer to men does, especially nowadays with them not being trad anymore. Not even face on men does since Josh Brolin for example looks better than women his age. Women dont like this because they know they cannot endlessly fuck around and still realistically get a guy they are genuinely attracted to. Its similar to how men are enraged over body counts, ultimately they cant do anything against it.

This is also why the complainers of age gaps are usually the ones pursuing the largest age gaps, they structurally hate their own choices

> I hate how men are so toxic
> refuses to date men her age, claims they are all losers
> bitter when chads move on, let it out on normies she wouldnt give any time to anyway because she only focuses on exceptional men

Take the Dolph Lundgren example, if this is *just purely golddigging* dont you agree she in California, Switzerland etc couldn't have found a much richer techbro incel or at least a guy who isnt like 70 or so?

tl;dr women are agents of their own destruction and instead of building relationships early on they rather monkey branch various winners, as soon as they notice they lose they call foul

>>34842798
I would say its 40+ because at that point numerically its harder to cope with and women dont want to cope. If there is nothing to cope with like say Jared Leto tier youthful looks it is less of an issue. That can easily be achieved if the men stay out of the sun, have their forehead botoxed, hair transplant if needed and dye ones hair. No matter what women do, they cannot come close to these relatively easy fixes. Their faces have structural sagging, it almost always ends looking like Madonna if they do something against it too.

And that 40+ thing isnt an issue either if you're in America and still look good because most men dont. I would argue most young men are born at the wall and die there. I would be more worried about aging in a country like France where a lot of men look good for a long time, then again you're French and that carries well in places like Eastern Europe or Turkey so what gives just get one of these

>>34842820
> Madonna
Madonna and Cher basically are utterly humiliated by aging. Just look to what kind of loser males they have to resort to. Cher is dating like a single dad black dude lol. Despite her wealth, status and shiet she basically ended up the same as some common run through spinster going to Jamaica. Perhaps even worse given those dont have deal with these guys kids. Meanwhile Brad Pitt is dating a 30yo designer or something like that at 60+ lol

>>34836353
Datings apps probably cause a lot of this shit. Millennials were the first gen to use them seriously without taboo and that started when they were in their 20's. By now, as soon as a chick turns 18, she probably has guys of all ages DMing her.
Regardless, it's retarded. Six years wouldn't even register to me as a significant age gap since I was college aged. Even then, it wasn't "ew that's gross", it was "man, this sucks".
If a girl was 20 dating a 40 year old, that was different. Everyone would judge it as weird.

IMO, once you're old enough to walk into a bar, it's all fair game.

>>34843040
The weird thing is if you're a millennial you're old enough to remember a time when using a dating app got you bullied by your friends and peers. Now it's almost at a point where it's weird if you don't use them; even though everyone knows they're toxic shit.

>>34843040
Women don't even use them. Dating apps are like 80% males who are still coping hard about the marketing lie of having pussy delivered to your doorstep without ever getting rejected.

>>34843252
>Now it's almost at a point where it's weird if you don't use them

You're at apoint where you get bullied for it again though. Unelss your peers are terminal losers themselves.

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>>34843330
Full circle... nice.