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or do men care about this? is it worth trying to have an orgasm during sex? or just accept i'll be one of those women who has never been given an orgasm by a man.

so i have a boyfriend who is my first, we've been together for quite a while. sex is good, i really really enjoy piv, but i think i'm one of those 60% of women who simply have a body that can only orgasm from clit stimulation (he's also definitely not small so size isn't an issue, just my body). he has never given me an orgasm, and since he's my first/only, neither has any man.

when i masturbate alone i can give myself an orgasm, but it takes 20-30 minutes. my bf sometimes tries touching my clit or rubbing me there during sex, which feels nice and i appreciate it, but i can tell he doesn't have the patience to do it in a super specific way i would have to explain to him for 20-30 mins straight. nor would that necessarily be realistic.

i don't fake orgasms, but i also feel really bad that he thinks he's given me one. the very first time we had sex and i was a virgin i was really sensitive, and kinda jumped/got scared when he was touching me and it started feeling good. he thought i had an orgasm, and since i felt nervous/didn't want to rock the boat or "reject" him, i didn't say anything or disagree back then. i am also not sure if i should tell now. being honest is always better, but would telling him just make him feel insulted/demasculated? is there a point in telling him? that's what i've been scared about.

if you were the boyfriend in this kind of situation, what would you wish happened/would be done about it?
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99% of men suck at sex. I've orgasmed only once in my life during it.
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>>34839887
i assume so. it just feels weird thinking i might die from old age before i get that off my bucket list yknow. i kind of wish it happened at least *once*, but it also feels awkward because it wouldn't be natural. i'd have to explain and instruct him and tell him it'll probably take 30 minutes. i guess i am also not sure if it's worth it at that point.
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>>34839884
have you asked him to slow it down and desensitize little johnny so he can try to include you?
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>>34839900
he does include me. i haven't dared told him it would really require like 20-30 mins for any "result" but again he does touch my clit and rub me during sex pretty often for a few minutes.
it also doesn't help that i may have encouraged him to go fast before. it usually feels way better to me but also makes him finish fast (which i don't mind that much its a fine tradeoff considering i tend to like it way more than slower sex)
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>>34839896
So heres the rundown.

Your man is going to have trouble controlling when he orgasms until hes older. Men who are young dont know how to breathe and relax their prostate but flex it just enough to stay hard and hold their orgasm back. It takes a lot of patience and meditation to get a man in the groove and headspace of commanding his orgasm as an experienced man can.

On to you, the other half of this conversation.

Womens orgasm is elusive and I wouldnt pretend to know exactly what women are experiencing. What I do know is that light foreplay, and the specific way in which you ladies play with your clit is a huge part of your orgasms. Its the first half anyway.

What i think i know is that women have two types of orgasms. A little one that their clit can give them and the squirting orgasm that requires both cliteral stimulation and a phallus inserted into her vagina that she can, in tandem, with a rythm, squeeze the phallus by squeezing her butthole. The in tandem part means she needs to squeeze in the correct timing of when hes pushing her open with his phallus while her clit is already horned up or is being gently rocked and touched by his pubic mound while PIV is happening.

Lots of ladies report their first squirting orgasm hurts, kinda like how a mans first orgasm or first few can hurt before it starts to feel naturally and incredible as an orgasm.

Also he needs to give you lots and lots of foreplay. One of my exes loved slow and passionate bum kisses more than just loving her legs up and down with my mouth. Though she loved how that lead up to bum kisses and oral.

Time and practice and lots and lots of patience after that. It also helps if she really feels connected emotionally to the guy too, it seems.
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>>34839884
(part 1 of 2)
If I were your boyfriend, I would want you to be truthful about it. Once you had been, I would probably start dividing what we do in bed into "sex" and "your orgasms". The first part would involve things like you getting endless neck kisses, nipple licks, extended clitoris stroking, me going down on you for 15 minutes or so, and then some extended PIV. At the start of that I would remind you that if, at some point, an orgasm happens to come along, by all means go for it, but that I don't care in the slightest if it doesn't, I only care that you're feeling as much pleasure as possible and feeling as turned on as possible. Then finally, after all that, if you were in the mood for an orgasm, you'd get your vibrator out and use it, while I play with your nipples and/or G-spot until you come.

But that's me. Many guys would have a massive problem with it, because most guys are very orgasm-focused. They're unable to comprehend that sex can be good, or even that it can have a point at all, if there's no orgasm. So, at best they would feel they weren't bringing anything to the table, and at worst it would such a challenge to their sexual pride that they would feel compelled to keep going until they get you to come every time, leading to a lot of faked orgasms because you feel like if you don't fake it, you'll be there all night.
(to be continued)
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>>34840846
(part 2 of 2)
(Pro-tip to less experienced men: if you want there to be any chance at all of a woman coming, the worst possible thing you can do is make a big fuss about how important it is to you that she comes. The moment you do that, she feels like, if she doesn't come, she's letting you down, which generates massive pressure on her; and pressure like that is the worst possible thing for orgasms. Tell her it doesn't matter at all so long as she's enjoying herself, and actually mean that!)

OP, if you care, it *may* be possible for you learn how to orgasm more easily. When my gf and I first got together she struggled to come at all, even by herself, never mind with me. She can now come anything up to a couple of dozen times with almost no effort. But this takes a lot of practice and a patient, knowledgeable partner (one who understands the mental aspects of sex as well as the physical), and even then there are no guarantees. Have you ever talked to a sex therapist? You and your bf would probably benefit from doing Sensate Focus.
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>>34839884
I'm a guy, but in my experience both partners have a much better time with more communication. When I started having sex with my gf, I asked her what feels good for her, what she does when she touches herself, etc. and basically told her the same thing for me. She likes to joke that we do a "post game conference" after sex because we talk about what felt good and what was weird or bad and shouldn't be done again. It's a little awkward but I make her cum at least 3 times every time we fuck now so clearly it works.
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>>34839896
I think you’re overthinking it desu. Just tell him, if it takes an hour to explain then spend an hour talking about it. We men are simple creatures. We don’t do hints and implications like you women do. Just tell him everything as plainly and directly as you can.
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>>34839884
>if you were the boyfriend in this kind of situation, what
i would patiently make you come. Like, lick your clit until it actually gives in. Yes, it takes time. I have time. I also need you to relax and not feel the urge to rush. If i lose my erection in the process it's fine, you can get it back when we focus on my body later.
I also thought i could never possibly come from a blowjob until one time i met a girl so much in love with me that she sucked me for literal, actual 15 minutes and it worked.

keep in mind that you are also not experienced in receiving stimulation from others. it's trainable, but by no means is it granted from the beginning.
If your bf doesn't have enough patience for you he's a shitty bf, desu
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>>34841387
>i would patiently make you come. Like, lick your clit until it actually gives in. Yes, it takes time. I have time.
Ugh. Saying "I won't stop till you cum" is about as sexy as saying "you're not leaving this table till you've eaten all your vegetables". Instantly it makes her feel that she's disappointing you if she can't cum, and it makes orgasms a chore rather than a pleasure. Guys like you are the reason women have to fake orgasms.
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>>34841602
>it makes her feel
thanks, pretty sure she doesn't need a spokesperson.
i'm not doing dirty talk here, i'm offering a perspective.
go fuck all those women that you doubtlessly managed to amass with your incredible insight
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>>34839884
girl, all you gotta do is to edge a lil bit
edge it before sex and then your body will open up to having fun!
don't forget stretching too, it helps with periods A LOT, it's cumulative too, so you'll feel better with each period

btw, did you try all the spots? rubbing your nips? massaging your taint? those should aid a bit more
maybe your body just wants it rough? maybe a little bondage? try being naked and having socks on, you'll feel extra nakey
idk, good luck, food for thought, don't forget to lube your fun receptacle!

as a reminder: a condom on his willie is cheaper than a kid in your belly



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