Long story short:I bought a car years ago while I was married and, being the genius that I am, I put my then-wife on the registration as a co-owner. We’re divorced now.She never paid a cent for the car — purchase, repairs, maintenance, insurance, nothing. But because she’s still listed as a co-owner, I can’t sell it or really do anything useful with it without her cooperation.And obviously she refuses to cooperate unless I pay her what she claims is “half the value of the car”, based on a hilariously inflated valuation she basically pulled out of thin air. Only then she says she’ll agree to remove herself as co-owner.The car is getting old, but it’s still worth some money. Recently it also developed a few issues and needs repairs, but I really don’t want to dump more money into something that isn’t technically 100% mine on paper.So right now it just sits there.Soon I’ll have to pay insurance again, inspection, etc., basically spending money every year just to own a lawn ornament I can’t sell.It doesn’t have AC insurance either.Has anyone dealt with something similar? Is there any way to force a sale, terminate the co-ownership, sell my share, surrender/deregister it, or basically do anything that gets me out of this situation without paying my ex an absurd ransom? I tried tell her 'sell it , we're gonna split money ' - yes, Im dumb, but tried this to just get rid of this problem..Creative ideas welcome, preferably legal ones, but ill look for all of them..At this point the only solution I can think of involves fire, but unfortunately that has a terrible resale value.
Can't you just give it to a scrap hauler or junkyard? They'll take it without title transfer
>>34844914just buy a beater pos and junk the old car. or better yet, dump it on her lawn and give it to her.here's a site for reliable car datahttps://www.dashboard-light.com/rankings.html
>>34844914Modify the car without her knowledge. If it is a cheap car, rice the living piss out of that bad boy and run some seafoam through the engine.Essentially mod the car beyond its value. Mods will decrease ROI too.
>>34844961I like this idea
>>34844948yea, in my country i'd need 2 signatures, one mine, and other from ex.. ok maybe it would work on junkyard somehow, but then i need to de-register car from department..
>>34844959looks great but I am as owner, shes as co-owner,but what does it change, > i dump on her lawn> im still 50% owner of a car> im still need to fill Deed of Gift - where I need to sign, and her.. without her signature she can 'denied' the donation and so on..
>>34844914Damages Adjuster here:I don't have the legal documents, but I imagine worst case is she is a 50 percent co-owner, legally.Which means that if you try any shenangains, like selling it or parting off, or modding it to make it undesirable, you run the risk of her seeing through the builshit and calling it in. In that case, you would be responsible for the Actual Cash Value (ACV) of the car. Or half the ACV. So I would avoid any of that.Is this the last of the assets on the divorce? It might be worth handing her the car in as-is condition, especially if the car is going to be a massive fucking financial headache or a burden to you. At this point, I would get an attorney involved to go over documentation and your case, and review your options for a clean get out. Sit in her shoes for a second. Getting the car is her want, but the real subtext is to obtain the car with as little energy on her part as possible. If you put out an olive branch to hand over the car as is, no expectation of further warranty, no strings attached, she may snatch it off you simply to avoid dragging it out. And you could sell her on the fact that if the burden is too great, she can attempt to sell the car for fair market value for her own enrichment.Another option is to have her sign a document saying she'll take half the value of the car, and then you go through a third party appraiser. They use them to total cars but will do it in cases like this for a few hundred bucks. Then you'd either sell the car or just pay her and sign some documents. Again, this all needs to be done in writing via contracts and shit.Yeah, my solution aint great, but this sounds like a nightmare on your personal asset books, and between insurance, maintained, repairs, and registration it's just eating a hole in your pocket, so I'd rid myself of it any way I could if I were in your shoes. If you disagree, tell me why and what context I'm missing and I can give you what I think is a better response.
>>34846210This is going to be the best advice in the thread by far.I’m still going to add my two cents, though, because this is 4chan>if you have the money to mod the car in an attempt to piss her off, you have the money to not care about this car>so sign over all ownership and either drown her with the cost >or let her deal with the stupid bullshit as she has to find a place to put it and work on paperwork to sell itThere’s never a point in trying to jab at an ex-wife financially or property-wise. The courts favor them, literally nobody denies this, and God forbid you get a female judge. But even more than that, especially do not use any form of amateur lawyering about it. You’re just asking for some greasy lawyer to find a technicality and fuck your ass with it at that point.
>>34846210yes its the last..In my country - Divorce is a separate matter, as is the division of property/money. We never had court case about division of property/money, because we didnt had any valuable things, just not worth it.Because in summary, cost of lawyer, court etc would be incredibly high, it would take around 1-2 years, and money to split would be not much (but for my favor) I can try to giveaway her this car.. I'll be sad, because its few thousands $, but also she can reject my "donation" as I wrote before, and in that case, Im in shithole.. because it would still need to proceed it as division of property/money by court..I was looking for someone to just hijack the car, give me some share, then i'd report it to cops and voila.. but didnt find anyone.also I was thinking about letting her know that when her insurance expires, she has to pay it, or at least half of it, and that if she doesn't do it, then I'll make up for it from the child support payments. Just to press on her, that we need to do something about it..
>>34846635>I was looking for someone to just hijack the car, give me some share, then i'd report it to cops and voila.. but didn't find anyone.Again, I would advise against trying to do anything like this, and not for the usual reason. On the side reason it SOUNDS good, but the reality is is that an auto theft raises more questions. You can't force a criminal to steal a car, so if it is parked outside your house, it could be there for YEARS and nobody would even look at it. But say you put it in the ghetto, a rough part of town where crime is high, and left it there and it got stolen in three days. It would be extremely easy to prove deliberate, malicious action on your part. Especially if you never go there, you were aware of the danger parking it there. Those are the questions the court would ask, and the insurance company for the car will certainly ask that. It's a tale as old as time here in the US. A car gets planted in the worst part of the city and stolen by some crackhead, and when it comes to light the man had 30K USD in gambling debt or something we have to deny the claim because the theft was manufactured, rather than some unfortunate happenstance.So to reiterate, I would try to get it off your plate as fast as you can. I would try to have her take as is and she can do what she wants, or you can grin and bear and pay half of what she wants or what is appraised for, and pay that and be done.
>>34844914>I pay her what she claims is “half the value of the carYou didn't specify what jurisdiction you are in, but yeah, when going through a divorce, you split your wealth in half.
>>34844914Instead of paying your wife for the car do you think she would agree to sell it to the public and you two split whatever the final sale price is?
>>34847526I tried, I told her "okay, lets sell it, we split even, and problem is gone"she replied something like: "No, you can do whatever you want with car, even sell it, but after you pay me mine half XXX $ amount.." So this option nope
>>34849492There's no divorce decree that mentions the car?
>>34849875>If you preserved an equitable distribution (property division) claim before your divorce, you can ask the district court to award the vehicle and use a Rule 70 order so the clerk or another person appointed by the court signs the title if your ex refuses. If you did not preserve equitable distribution, you can file a special proceeding to partition the vehicle (often by sale) and retitle based on the court’s order.
>>34844914Jeez why you marry such a bitc
>>34844914you made an oath, stop acting vindictively towards your wife, it's pathetic
