every thread I've been reading here I've noticed most of anons biggest problems are being either NEETs, unemployed, homeless, working low-labor, and I'm honestly wondering if there's rich anons here or we're all poor here? Is money truly the solution to everyone's misery?
>>34853089my parents are rich and im leeching off of them as a neet. i dont really think theres that much of a difference between being rich and poor if youre living a super isolated lifestyle
>>34853123You think that because you are rich, but you knew that
>>34853089Not having debt is enough to position you above a big chunk of the world.Besides, every NEET is smart enough to get entertainment and education for free (though not credentials), while human metabolism can be very economical bordering malnourishment. Personally My mom pays the bills that amount to about $200 per month, food goes for $200, among pension and LTD she gets $1000 as income, while I get $200 from savings. Every day things become more expensive. Everything has a price, so not spending means going nowhere. No credentials, no social spaces, no future.And stopping being a NEET is not simple at all. The conditions that turned you into one are always still there. Maybe it's anxiety, shit social skills, maybe it's self imposed pressure and shame. Once you get into an entry level job you feel your situation didn't change but you're more tired and have less time. The only real solution is to provide a safe environment to fully bloom with purpose, including labor and social retraining. But that doesn't exist and a surplus of people exist to take any job, so we rot. This is our niche, we are fit for it, and when the niche goes so will we.
Not rich but doing well, now. I was in debt up to my ass with a shitty job and 100k of student loans. My neighbor was a contractor who'd occasionally ask me or one of my roommates to help if he needed to move something on or off his truck- never more than like 3 minutes of work. Good dude. He asked if one of us wanted to do side work assembling prefab kitchen cabinets for him in his garage. I needed the $ and I liked it, oddly, and got fast and good at it. Did this a bit and started making some custom ones too with him, first weekends, then at night after work. I opened a cabintry shop 3 years after I started, with him as my only customer, and he got me work with others, introduced me to guys. I quit my job 6 months later. I really like woodwork. Never tried it until I ran out of money, lol. I started restoring staircases in old houses too, and started making custom stairs, which is 90% of what I do now. I have 30 employees and several work crews. The real money didn't come until I could stop growing, and it took about 10 years of living frugally, but I pay myself well now.
>>34853089I've certainly never been rich, but I was at one time just into the top 5% of incomes in my country. It was remarkable how much stuff there was around that was aimed purely at people who had far more money than I did! But nonetheless I was far happier back then than I am now. (I'm now a NEET who is too sick to be able to work but doesn't qualify for benefits). It makes an enormous difference being in a position where, so long as you don't have to buy anything expensive, you don't really have to think about money. Like if the house needed some repairs, or something, back then I could just have them done; now I can't. It's a constant mental strain having to always think "Can I actually afford that?" even for really quite small things.
>>34853089Someone on /o/ posted bread on hood of a Ferrari F430 once. Enough money to not have to WORRY about affording anything, and ideally a fulfilling career, is a large part of happiness.
>>34853140>Once you get into an entry level job you feel your situation didn't change but you're more tired and have less time.Good way of putting it
>>34853188>>34853226Is there any escape? Fuck, I mainly got a job to stop leeching off my parents since I was starting to feel ashamed, but I'm still as isolated as ever with shit social skills and no prospects for the future.
>>34853089Most seem to be in education or emploemt on here, maybe living with family
>Is anyanon here rich?if $1.7M net worth is rich, then yes>Is money truly the solution to everyone's misery?to a degree, yeah. money can buy experiences which could make someone happy, like traveling. or buy equipment / tools to enable a hobby from which you can derive contentment. but it won't buy the motivation needed to actually stick with a hobby to learn and get better at it (which is what the actual contentment comes from). also won't buy you a better personality to attract a high value mate
>>34853089I'm not rich, but money is not an issue for me. There has not been a single point in my life where I have been stressed out about money and I intend to keep it that way. I've never really put in any effort to reach this point either - I have a license but I've never owned a car and I've never been particularly wasteful either (but I'm not a cheap fuck either), so I've made a decent amount of money just by investing in index funds.Anyway, money does not buy happiness. I was very lonely and depressed despite having x10 the net worth of my friends. Money, specifically consumption CANNOT buy happiness. It might but you a temporary high, but that thrill fades fast. Money is good for removing financial stress (which can make you very unhappy) and providing opportunities. You don't want to be a schmuck who wastes money on a fancy car because you're trying to buy the approval of other people by projecting 'success'. You want to be the guy who never worries about being able to pay bills on time, who never worries about having to find a new job ASAP if you get sacked, who never worried if a hotel is $200 or $300 a night if you go on vacation. Money should just be there for you when you need it, but don't waste it.
>>34853089I'm not rich but do have rich parents. Not rich enough for me to go full NEET, and I do have a relatively well paying job for where I live but I'll describe my experiences as a 33 yr old:No debt, car paid for and tied to parent's insurance, college paid for, partial rent/utilities paid for the place I'm staying on, groceries and basic necessities paid for. Only thing I pay with my own money on my credit card is partially the rent and entertainment/bullshit-- and I'm very frugal so most of my paycheck goes to my investment account anyways. As a kid I travelled all over the Americas and Europe due to my father's job. When I got to my 20s, I got tired of traveling and scarcely do it anymore. Can access my dad's sportscar if I want to and if I or my siblings ever get married, they'll straight up buy us a house. Still a sheltered virgin with bad social skills and only recently trying to correct that. If I were to sum it all down is that having a lot of money gives you convenience. Convenience to not waste time penny pinching, convenience to get what you want now, convenience to not be setback by the most inopportune problem. The convenience to not have to put so much mental bandwidth on those problems.
>>34853363No. Money is the latest scheme by elites to control other people. Before that we had slavery, which doesn't work well becuase you have to manage every aspect of the slaves life, and they don't work 100% optimally, in fact they do the minimum, or simply run away or revolt. So they invented money and banking and infrastructure around it so everything needs money to function. If you refuse to work and get money, you can't participate in the system, and you can try and fend for yourself, which means being homeless outliers, but since the elites and 99% of the world use the money system, you effectively cannot survive without it unless you want to be a nature hermit, and even then they try to get you for taxes.
Money is all that matters. The number in your bank account determines your value as a human.
>>34853089it must not matter at all anon.
>>34853089>Is money truly the solution to everyone's misery?No. Of course not. Having money solves some money issues and creates other ones. But anon would be miserably regardless.
>>34853123im not rich but moderately wealthy for my age. im a neet still, just inherited some money and invested it well. the way i see it money doesnt buy happiness but it does buy coping mechanisms. i have hobbies i enjoy that cost money i couldnt do if i were piss poor. the biggest benefit of course is not having existential dread about how to get food, but that you do usually get regardless via unemployment money in wealthy nations. all in all, my life is like a 6-7 in quality of life right now, without money im guessing that would reduce to a 5.
