im a catholic man who struggles with same sex attraction. over the past year anytime i fall and jerk off i do it to straight porn which has sort of given me a bit of an attraction to girls. but im not very good looking and my hair is clearly thinning so even if i do fully become attracted to girls somehow I doubt any would want me. but damn at some point I'll have to move out and living on my own seems like a major struggle financially. it'd be nice to have a girl to date and love and to have some help financially. i could date a guy but I know the truth to gay relationships and that they always end badly or it gets perverted. its not meant to work and I wont bother trying to make it work. i havent for 6 years and im not gonna go back to it now.I just wonder if theres even any point in me thinking about girls in any way. my chances are low, my looks arent great, and my tradework isnt the best type of income. i find myself fantasizing about being with a girl but i only ever think of it in a domme sort of way so clearly it isnt pure. maybe thats the monkeys paw of my wish to be attracted to girls. I can be attracted to them, but only in perverted ways.I'm sure I'm alone in this struggle and I'm sure ill just be flamed but idk i just wanted to vent this out to someone other than God.
>>34859237A lot of abrahamism in general is sort of using technicalities to skirt around the rules of a very strict and clearly vengeful God?Tell God this>I am straight so if it makes my dick hard, it is a womanWhat’s he even going to say? You caught him in the technicality.
>>34859247I'm not a jew. I don't fool myself in believing that I can fool God and get away with it.
>>34859237step 1: stop using pornas much as i hate the degeneracy of gay culture, i think gay men relationships are as steady as straight or more. just watch the incontinence. i think its lesbian relationships that are less stable.i'm only saying this because if you stop using porn to find a degenerate female attraction and you can't get it up for a woman, you need to find a very special someone to tolerate your problem. i don't know how low those odds would be either but i'm concerned it'd lead you to becoming a cuck or findom shitalso, if your hair is past the point of no return just go bald. it'll make you look younger. it is what it is. you can try to get a scrip for finasteride to fix it. i think people take that with something else but it fucks with your sex drive apparently.
>>34859253Uhhh you guys “technically” don’t worship false idols and then pray to the pope instead of God on some technicalityTransubstantiation. Dude.You guys are technically monotheistic but then pray to and kneel before idols of saintsYou can do one more technicality.
>>34859237You are reading and learning from a dog shit translated english version of the Bible. The original scriptures from the dead sea scrolls tells you not fuck male boys, a popular trend at the time for greeks, Roman's, and the middle east in general. That got morphed into men instead. You need to unironically need to study the original dead sea scrolls so you don't get thr Christian bullshit now that is basically 2000 years game of telephone and political misrepresentation.
>>34859257yeah i need to get better with step 1 admittingly. I agree with your point of "even if porn helps you get some sort of attraction to girls, what happens when you need to get it up irl?" I just have to resist porn temptations better considering i have a good method at doing that now. and lol i appreciate your worry anon but trust me, i aint into cucking or findom. or taking anything up the butt so dont worry about pegging either.I have seen examples of someone in my situation getting with a girl. but all 3 examples didn't end well.>>34859261you spout lies and darkness. our conversation is over. have a good life.>>34859270I understand your point. For all I know the 2 versions ive read hold inacurracies. I should really look at the originals but I cant be bothered to learn some old language and Id be back at square 1 by trying to translate it myself. until I do take some steps into understanding the originals however I cant take the chance. dating guys is out of the question.
>>34859279are you wanting kids? why do you want a woman in this case?
>>34859293I have always envisioned myself having a son one day. so yeah i would like to have children with a woman. maybe that was an important part to clarify in the OP but ya I do desire that from a relationship with a woman
>>34859300I've seen the results of a son born to repressed gay catholics.Do it. I want one less catholic woman able to produce functional children.
>>34859346not quite sure why youd have an interest in such a horrible thing.
>>34859347Horrible? It's wonderful for everyone else in the future.
I REALLY want to kill myself right now.
>>34859350being edgy is fun. ill respect your edgyness
>>34859352why? what makes you want to end your life?
>>34859237Stop being in a cult. God is literally fake and gay.
>>34859352if you want to talk through it im here for you bro.>>34859384your intentions are fake and gay. begone dead body. drag someone else down to hell with you.
>>34859385It’s your choice if you want to live according to some old made up fairy tale written by a bunch of Israelites or whoever. Why not just live by Homer’s Odyssey? Pretty sure there isn’t anything about not having gay sex.
>>34859237Exact same situation anon...it sucks. There's a christian discord group for guys like us if you're interested.
>>34859404id like that. as long as you guys wont try to hit on me or anything
>>34859237I don't get it. God doesn't exist and you should feel lucky you're gay. Women are insufferable.
>>34859408Lol absolutely not. What's your discord?
>>34859413de_bez>>34859412ive heard guys with opposite sex attraction say this before. but theres one thing you guys dont realize, ALOT of gays act like woman. alot that act like guys are just fucking weirdos. its hard to find a normal gay.
>>34859412Incontinence, diseases, anal cancer, childlessness, How is OP lucky to have his manhood taken like that.
>>34859418Not to mention how it fucks u up socially
All those conversion therapy things failed, and so will you. God made you this way.
>>34859464perhaps youre right.
Do you have support groups for this at your church? I know protestant churches often do. You might want to look into that even if you don't believe as they do.
>>34859480they do. but i never went. maybe its fear. maybe its some other unknown. all i know is i see no good coming from a bunch of repressed gays sitting in a circle together talking about their repressions. id rather struggle on my own
>>34859237>I'll have to move out and living on my own seems like a major struggle financially. it'd be nice to have a girl to date and love and to have some help financially. i could Just get a sugar daddy
>>34859693not an option
>>34859237>tradlarper>prison gay Yep it tracks. Forget about your deus vult larping, resorting to being prison gay because you can't get laid is fucking pathetic. If you were really Catholic, this wouldn't even be a question, you'd just resign yourself to a life of not cooming in favor of serving the Lord because masturbation, fornication, and sodomy are all sins anyway.
>>34859487You definitely need to get in the group dude. If what you're trying hasn't helped what have you got to lose? Satan tries to weaken us by cutting us off from our brethren first and making us think we're alone in our struggles.
>>34859237Your goal should be to move past lust entirely and reject sexuality as a whole. Adultery occurs in the heart first and foremost, so as long as you let lust control you you're guilty of adultery. Worrying about whether it's gay or straight lust is just muddying the waters and obscuring the fact that lust is always evil and should be rejected as a sin.
>>34859237God made you gay. Who are you to criticise His decision?
>>34859237What causes a man to larp this elaborately? Are you going to be a Buddhist tranny next year?
>>34859702>>34860512youre both retarded. begone.
>>34859237Porn isn't real life. When you're in bed with another man, he will smell like a man, your body will react like he's a man. It won't be like porn. And you'll probably feel disgusted.Anyway, have you tried lifting some fucking weights?
You can date a hot, passable pre-op tranny and have the best of both worlds. Or marry a lesbian and date other people.
>>34859237Let's laugh at this idiot
>>34859261You've filled your mind with lies.
"According to Catholic doctrine, solely having same-sex attractions itself is not considered inherently sinful; it is the act of engaging in sexual activity with someone of the same sex that is regarded as a grave mortal sin against chastity. The Church also does not recognize nor perform any sacramental marriages between same-sex couples. However, the Catechism of the Catholic Church emphasizes that all homosexual individuals must "be accepted and treated with respect, compassion, and sensitivity," and that all forms of unjust discrimination should be discouraged and avoided at all cost."But you must remember that very few Catholics actually follow Catholic doctrine. That's the ideal, not a law that has to be followed at all times in all ways. There have been openly gay priests and bishops. Only God is perfect, the rest of us have to muddle through our lives. Making yourself miserable over doctrine is not God's will.
>>34861061Can’t God read hearts? If he knows you’re a good person despite him giving you same sex attraction and you act on it because, well, that fag made you that way, why would you be punished?
>>34860591Desperate faggot
>>34861085You're not a good person if you're such a coomer that you can't refrain from wanting to bust in man butts (or get busted in) instead of just restraining yourself, even if you can't get women.
>>34861085Overcoming temptation is what makes a person good in the first place. No one is good until they set aside their base inclinations in favor of reason. This is the case whether we're talking about gay sex or straight sex. Being straight doesn't give you free license to be promiscuous, either. God made us with urges so that we can learn how to be stronger than those urges. If we haven't learned that lesson, then we aren't good yet by definition.
>>34862034You’re also not a good person if you’re gay and try to have sex with women.
Repeat after me:God hates fagsGod is a fagGod hates himselfYou are now free.
Nice story. Tell it to Reader's Digest.
>>34859237You're incredibly cringe and romanticizing this nonexistent "struggle" that in reality, millions of confused, naive teenaged boys like you go through before simply growing out of it. Make peace with your bisexuality and get the fuck over it instead of larping as some righteous, crestfallen religious warrior on 4chan while simultaneously saying you're into dudes.
>>34862645What's wrong with you? He clearly sees a disconnect between what's right or rational to pursue and what his desires are. It's got nothing to do with accepting whatever they are, and he's well within his right to feel some strife about it. Grow up
>>34859237Think about men to get hard but have sex with women. Duh.
This is really easy. A horny man can fuck anything. Put on your favorite underwear and admire yourself in the mirror if thats what it takes to get a boner, but fuck women.
Bump
Fake and gay and balding.Quit porn, quit fantasizing, get back to work chuddy.
