Yes. Just live with it. Watch porn together.

>>34859457
Why exactly is it a problem if your boyfriend watches porn or looks at other women?

99% of them do. You have better luck finding an unicorn than a non-degenerate man.

>>34859457
Most men do, yes. I'm one of the few that doesn't - but I'm also highly non-monogamous, so finding someone porn-free may not help you with that.

>>34859460
>why do you want a faithful man

>>34859467
There's nothing about watching porn that makes you unfaithful though?

>>34859460
it's not monogamous. I want monogamy. It brings down relationship satisfaction, makes u retarded, subconciously ill get compared by him

>>34859472
>it's not monogamous.
I want you to explain how porn doesn't make a man monogamous like I'm five years old
>It brings down relationship satisfaction
Not as much as a being a bitch girlfriend will
>makes u retarded
Sounds like your partner's problem, not yours
>subconciously ill get compared by him
Sounds like insecurity to me

>>34859477
Having sexual / romantic feelings towards someone else is considered cheating or non monogamous.
Thats what porn is, sexual feelings towards someone else than your partner

>>34859458
>>34859469
>>34859477
If men only defended women's rights the way the defends porn...

>>34859457
Just as 99.99% of women read & coom to smut, and increasingly porn. Odds of finding an untainted unicorn man are an order of magnitude higher than finding a unicorn woman

>>34859472
All of mass media is filled to the brim with pornography, softcore or hardcore. Even "family friendly" media has seen an uptick in showcasing of pornography.

>>34859482
>Thats what porn is, sexual feelings towards someone else than your partner
no it isn't.

for most men, porn is a means to an end -> cumming. And cumming is an urge you just have to get rid of. That's the result of testosterone. Read what FtM trans people have to say once they got on testosterone, how it changed their brain and thoughts.

Porn is like eating a quick snack to stave off hunger, while having sex would be going to a nice restaurant to sit down and take your time. Why would one diminish the other? Do I suddenly lack appreciation for fine dining if I eat a bag of chips?

>>34859482
You can't have feelings for pictures or videos or writing or drawings, which is what pornography is. Just media.
If you're saying you want a man that is never sexually aroused by other women besides you, I'd say you're just as mentally ill and deranged as some incel man who would expect that from a woman, and suffer from deep insecurity as I said before.

>>34859501
You can cum without porn. That's just an excuse.

>>34859509
>You can cum without porn.
but i don't want to. so? you've heard that men are visual creatures, yes?

>>34859485
I'm not defending porn, it's not good, but there's no world where is makes you non-monogamous
And considering how most "women's rights" involve allowing women to drain men's bank accounts, giving them unrestricted sexual access to Chad even when in "monogamous" relationships, and the unfettered ability to kill their own children up to and even well past birth, then I'd say women's rights are better off not fought for.

>>34859491
I dont really care if he has done it in the past since i was porn addicted as a teen too, but its different if youre in a relationship

>>34859477
>subconciously ill get compared by him
Sounds like insecurity to me

Thought of it and ofc, why would i want to get compared to other fantasy women daily wtf.
And what else am i supposed to do? it is going to happen

>>34859503


>If you're saying you want a man that is never sexually aroused by other women besides you

I dont i just dont want him to voluntarily indulge in such stuff, human attraction is one thing.
hardcore feeding into it is another

>>34859485
What do you mean by defending women's rights?

>>34859457
>Do all men watch porn?
Yeah, pretty much.
>Are all of em really pornbrained gooners?
Watching porn is one thing, being totally obsessed with it is another.
>Where can i find true monogamists with no wandering eyes?
You can find plenty of monogamists, but all non-asexual men's eyes wander. It's just how they are. Don't like it? Don't get a man.

>>34859523

>Watching porn is one thing, being totally obsessed with it is another.

what would u say is the difference?

As i said before wandering isn't that much of an issue as engaging in it is.

>>34859457
I'm willing to drop porn if you dated me, but you only want Chad and Chad will always do what he wants.

>>34859457
Most do or have at some point. I've been trying to get off it a couple of times, but never succeeded, unfortunately

>>34859509
Great, so now instead of beating it to some porn star he'll never meet, he's beating it thinking of the cute college girl that started working as a clerk at the grocery store he goes to.
Are you sure this is what you want?

>>34859517
>Thought of it and ofc, why would i want to get compared to other fantasy women daily wtf.
Ok, is it reasonable to ask you to never ever think about fantasy men again? Can my standard be that you can never find another man attractive when you're with me, otherwise I consider that infidelity?

>>34859457
So I have a niche fetish, and videos of it are much better than regular porn for me.
Actually, I don't like porn very much, it always looks shady and disgusting in a way.
As a result, it's been like half a year without watching any.

>>34859540
Do you think it'd possible if u had a gf to fuck or her pics instead? unless youre in a partnership already then gg

>>34859544
Yes, I can hold myself to that standard. I never said not acknowlaging peoples attractiveness is bad though. It's natural, as i said its about the willingness of it and further indulgence once u do see somehting youre attracted to

>>34859555
>Yes, I can hold myself to that standard.
So you're saying you're not a human being?

>>34859541
No. If he has to jerk off he can jerk off to his girlfriend. Otherwise it's infidelity.

>>34859555
Theres a huge difference in looking out for it and it just happening, same with the degree of it, porn is not the reality and is much more degen and unrealistic.

>>34859563
>So you're saying you're not a human being?

If that's how you define it. I just have strong morals due to being autisitc. I can't fathom such obvious disloyalty to one another. I dont want anything else but my partner.

>>34859567

I agree

>>34859567
Where's the infidelity? Was a romantic or sexual act performed with another person outside of the relationship? The qualifier for "with another person" being in physical, IRL, both parties together and consenting.

>>34859457
>Where can i find true monogamists with no wandering eyes?
in the eunuch district

>>34859570
>I just have strong morals due to being autisitc. I can't fathom such obvious disloyalty to one another. I dont want anything else but my partner.
You don't have a partner yet though. But, you are looking for one, which means you have the ability to consider more than just one man as a potential romantic prospect. If that's the case, then that means the capacity exists for you to find men other than the one you're dating attractive, and the only thing stopping you is having "strong morals." No human being is perfect though, and any human that claims to have 100% perfect self control over their feelings is a liar. So if you're so sure you'd never ever find another man attractive, I can only assume you're some kind of demi-god, if I can't assume you're a deranged and insecure liar.

If you were talking about having enough self control to never physically stray, I'd buy that and say it's reasonable, but I mean none of this matters anyway, you're just some LARPing tranny or Indian and I haven't bumped this thread since my first reply anyway.

>>34859572
I agree with her, so for me it would be

Having sexual / romantic feelings towards someone else is considered cheating or non monogamous.
Thats what porn is, sexual feelings towards someone else than your partner

as i stated before

Jerking off to another person is also an action with such intent.
If someone stops loving you but still acts like they do, do they still love you? no. the feeling and desire is altered like with porn, just sexually not romantically

>>34859530
>what would u say is the difference?
It should be fucking obvious if you have half a brain cell.

>>34859578
>Thats what porn is, sexual feelings towards someone else than your partner
Then again, I defer to the fact that it's deranged and insecure to expect your partner to never have sexual feelings for anyone but you
>If someone stops loving you but still acts like they do, do they still love you? no. the feeling and desire is altered like with porn, just sexually not romantically
Are you God? Can you see into the hearts of people with absolute clarity and understanding? I met a homeless meth addict once who thought that about himself.

>>34859572
If you engage in an activity where you get sexual gratification from other women it's infidelity. It doesn't have to be physical. If you're sexting with someone it's not physical either but it's pretty clearly cheating. Maybe the other person isn't present when you're fantasizing or watching porn but you're still getting off at the thought of other women. It's a heinous fantasy that should not be tolerated. The same if my partner told me he has fantasies of killing people or torturing animals. Sure, he hasn't done it but the fantasy itself is sick.

>>34859585
>If you engage in an activity where you get sexual gratification from other women it's infidelity.
Nope, infidelity is a breach of romantic trust or "faith", it's in the fucking word - "infidelity" = non-truster/faithful. If you had a woman that let you had an open relationship on your side, would fucking other women mean you're being unfaithful to her?
Hmm, interesting that you said "other women" and not "other people." Almost like you're just engaging in misandrist bullshit and trying to make men seem bad, meanwhile women are perfect little angels that definitely never cheat or do things like goon to books about giant minotaur cocks and balls.
>If you're sexting with someone it's not physical either but it's pretty clearly cheating.
Sexting involves another party and it is physical. How does a sext send itself without someone pressing the keys? Are you retarded?
>The same if my partner told me he has fantasies of killing people or torturing animals.
Torturing animals is genuinely abnormal though, it's not something a mentally healthy normal person does. Mentally healthy, normal people do have sexual urges, however. I'd say even the fantasy of killing a person can be normal and healthy.

>>34859517
But you yourself have viewed pornography be it in movies or just plain old social media(softcore at the very fucking least be iten kissing, caressin, cuddling, etc.). You're just as tainted and to top it off hypocritical af. It's reasonable to demand for virgin spouses, but this demand is beyond retarded as one ought to be a tech luddite or a serious monk from birth who was born and raised in mt athos, but these folks are also going to be bachelors for life.

>>34859596
>>34859517
Shit nvm. I didn't read about your porno past. Just out of curiosity, are you a virgin?

>>34859577
Im white you nigger.
Why are you confusing attraction with indulgingin in it, as i stated before sure there are attractive people but i really dont care. i see them being attractive and i think " this person is deem attractive". i dont think OMG THEYRE HOT or look at them for pleasure, it gives me noone and i wouldnt want it.
I had one that initially agreed with my morals but then broke it so i had to break up with him.

Theres a difference between dating and being in a full on relationship.

>>34859583
>Then again, I defer to the fact that it's deranged and insecure to expect your partner to never have sexual feelings for anyone but you

Its fine if it happens, but shouldn't be indulged in as stated before. Humans have monkey brain so idrc. Its about the choice. Its one thing to notice someone hot and think that. but another to stare and think about them instead of ignoring

>>34859585
i generally agree, but not fully. Your example does involve someone else, but i think itd be as bad as with an ai bot

>>34859590

>If you had a woman that let you had an open relationship on your side, would fucking other women mean you're being unfaithful to her?

Nope but then its not monogamous, same as with porn. She does seem like a misandrist before ye

>>34859596

>But you yourself have viewed pornography be it in movies or just plain old social media(softcore at the very fucking least be iten kissing, caressin, cuddling, etc.)

yeah but one is inescapable and porn, indulgence is a choice.

>You're just as tainted and to top it off hypocritical af. It's reasonable to demand for virgin spouses

I can bring not looking at anyone but my spouse to the table so why wouldnt i want it as well?
I've seen porn before but doesnt mean i watch it still, or would in a relationship. Im fine if he did so too until the agreement of a relationship

gonna go store brb

ive gone down a rabbit hole and my dream is to become a niche micro celebrity but then get exposed and have mini YT docs made abt me
also im new to 4chan :3

Horrible things ive done/do
i masturbate to furry porn,i rub my cum all over,i sleep in cum stained sheets,i dont clean my room,i never leave the house,i have no friends,i say slurs and give death threats online and irl,ive harrassed classmates till they left,got 2 teachers fired,punched 2 pregnant women,steal,tortured insects lizards and other animals, and much worse but what else can i do to become infamous and a full on incel or larpcel

>>34859609
Yes i am, I'm khhv still, the thing was online.

>>34859613

Go somewhere else attentionwhore

>>34859457
Fake thread, you're in 4chan basically a porn site and you have demands.

>>34859612
>Im white you nigger.
Brahmins are not white saaaaar
>Why are you confusing attraction with indulgingin in it, as i stated before sure there are attractive people but i really dont care. i see them being attractive and i think " this person is deem attractive". i dont think OMG THEYRE HOT or look at them for pleasure, it gives me noone and i wouldnt want it.
>Its fine if it happens, but shouldn't be indulged in as stated before. Humans have monkey brain so idrc. Its about the choice. Its one thing to notice someone hot and think that. but another to stare and think about them instead of ignoring
again, this comes down to "waaaaah waaaaah my partner coomed to someone else even though they had no interaction with this person and never will and nothing is different about the relationship." It's insecurity, straight up. If porn led to cheating, then every man would cheat, and that's far from the case.
>I had one that initially agreed with my morals but then broke it so i had to break up with him.
You never had a relationship, you're doing this to waste time and farm engagement.

>>34859618
Yeah but it's fun to make this Indian nigger getting paid 5 rupees/hr to post ragebait to actually try and justify this insane position and get all twisted in the process.

>>34859549
well, I am under the naïve delusion that it will get a lot easier if I ever manage to get into a relationship. But maybe I'm just setting myself up to learn a harsh fucking lesson later in life.
To be honest, I was baffled, when I found out that apparently some dudes do still watch porn even if they have a partner

>>34859647
Men consooom porn just to loosen their rocks. They fucked or got blowed by physical whores in the past and they masturbate to digital whores today. If a man ever sees you good only for sexxxo, you just know it's over. Besides that, no good man will ever see his own wife as a fuck toy as the moment he starts seeing her as one, he will immediately start comparing her to other whores like a piece of meat. Wives are meant to be protected and sex should only be involved for baby making.

>>34859647
When I was in a relationship I didn't jerk off to other women. It's possible but you can't be a pornfried coombrain.

>>34859647
>To be honest, I was baffled, when I found out that apparently some dudes do still watch porn even if they have a partner
They inevitably stop putting out and taking care of themselves. They stop showering and putting in effort, they get lazy and complacent, become couch potatoes with greasy hair lazily tied up. Resentment builds up fast.
At that point many men realize it's way easier to jack off to porn than put in the effort of trying to woo your own girlfriend. When you see that lazy slob on the couch, you don't want to fuck anymore. Eventually every relationship falls apart because the woman thinks she no longer needs to satisfy the man's needs, even though the man keeps satisfying the woman's needs.

>>34859668
I suspect men do see a reduction in those habits as their brain becomes more oxytocin dominant over testosterone dominant, when in relationships.

>>34859647

It's crazy to me too, some deluded people here really believe it doesnt effect relationship satifsaction, not to consider hard watchers turn into degen trannies and what not, u really need to control yourself. But thats just bait from their side

>>34859668

Ye i generally agree. Yet if you really respect your wife you wouldnt want to no? Should be doing it to pictures of her. But i yeah i think doing it ocasionally to loosen rocks is not half as bad as trying to justify it. its whatever. I dont even think id mind it if it was necesary very ocasional + he wouldnt be wouldnt be coombrained in the theory.


>>34859669

>They inevitably stop putting out and taking care of themselves. They stop showering and putting in effort, they get lazy and complacent, become couch potatoes with greasy hair lazily tied up. Resentment builds up fast.
At that point many men realize it's way easier to jack off to porn than put in the effort of trying to woo your own girlfriend. When you see that lazy slob on the couch, you don't want to fuck anymore. Eventually every relationship falls apart because the woman thinks she no longer needs to satisfy the man's needs, even though the man keeps satisfying the woman's needs.

If so you might be VERY different on values

>>34859678
bro this isn't reddit what the fuck is this insane spacing
I have to buy a ship and hire a crew to get to the end of your post

>>34859457
Most of em yeah prob

>>34859722
how many of them stop in a relationship?

>>34859460
Women feel about porn similarly to how we do about virginity. Some of them put up with it, others like op won't. Regardless it's never something that's liked

>>34859678
>If so you might be VERY different on values
you don't seem to understand that male brains do not work like female brains, at all. It's not a matter of values. It's literally primal biological programming, men NEED to fuck and go insane when they can't. The only way to change that is to snip your balls, there is no other way

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>>34859729
when i stopped looking at porn, the person i was with didn't even care. they even encouraged it saying they can't always be around to fuck.
i'd say it's pretty low that people stop even in a relationship. the online solution is just the easiest. you go to facebook to reconnect with old friends, youtube to pass the time, porn to deposit cream into a kleenex.
there's plenty out there that don't use porn, but op is unrealistic thinking people don't examine other people. what is one gonna do, just stare at fat ugly ham planets all day?
i'm not mentally undressing them like some dudes, but i can look and judge all i want.
op has trust issues.

>>34859485
No you cannot get raw dogged by 8 strangers and vacuum out the result 7 months later. Fuck off

>>34859457
be hotter than the girls around him and he wont watch porn
also let him fuck you regularly so that it's out of his "system"

>do most men watch porn
Every man has seen porn at least once. Most watch porn at least sometimes.
>where can I find men without a wandering eye
Almost impossible. Men are wired to think about spreading their seed even if they don't act on it. The question I have is why women are so insecure about porn. Men need sexual release. Need it. Like hunger or thirst. Porn isn't a replacement for women in the way women seem to fear it is.

>TFW no degenerate coomer goonette GF

Pain

>>34859482
>Having sexual / romantic feelings towards someone else is considered cheating or non monogamous
Well, turn the tables and ask yourself how you would feel if you found out your woman goons to men on OF, has them create custom work for her and chats her up all day while you are at work?

>>34859457
>Do all men watch porn? Are all of em really pornbrained gooners?
There's a huge gap between "watching porn" and "gooning," dumbass.

>Where can i find true monogamists with no wandering eyes?
You are going to drive any prospective mate away with your attitude.

>>34859457
Doesn't exist, lady. Men are more horny than women on average. We are the biggest consumers of porn. Just deal with it.

>>34860082
Watching porn is not paying an OF content creator to create custom content for them and chatting with them (actually male jeets hired to chat with coomers).
You are manipulating the discussion in a disingenuous way. If you wanted to be genuine about this you could say something like
>Well, turn the tables and ask yourself how you would feel if you found out your woman checks out attractive men when she's out alone
and the response would be I feel nothing, because everyone with eyes does this subconsciously.

>>34860088
No, I am being honest and blurring the lines a little as this is a direct example of something I currently am experiencing irl and am genuinely curious about chan's perspective.

>>34860088
>>34860092
checks out attractive men online vs. slapping clam and chatting up horned up men while you are working and paying for custom videos/images

>>34860092
You are not being honest because you equate actively paying someone for nudes and chatting with passively watching porn. They are nowhere near the same thing or on the same level.

>>34860098
So OF is not porn?

You must be dumber than a sack of rocks.

>>34860103
Again, you are being disingenuous. OF has porn content on the platform, yes.
Paying for it and chatting with OF models is not watching porn, no.

>>34860098
can you not just answer the question?

>>34860106
Well, how would you feel. If she was doing EITHER or BOTH

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>>34859457
My lust died the second I wrote the average feminine nature on paper and stratified it according to its moral nature. I am now convinced that the only thing you are supposed to do as a soul and as a man is to wrestle your own flesh into submission, find God and develop a prosperous and altruistic relationship with our creator in order to escape this prison. 99% of women are half humans with no souls, everything they strive for and enjoy is ultimately evil in its nature. The very core of femininity is absolute evil that seeks to devour good men with the same glee and joy you'd get from stomping out some dorky kids sand castle.

Once I realized why women are the way they are, it's like I've finally been enlightened as to why hermit monks become hermits in the first place. It's all a lie, its all a joke. This planet is a prison, women are archons who genuinely don't give a fuck about anything but they have to pretend to have interests beyond themselves just so men don't become suspicious and notice the huge disparity in the nature of each gender. It's not a complimentary nature, it's completely one-sided and parasitic. The entire role of women is to entrap a mans life force and pull another soul into this false reality incarnation trap. That's all they were designed to do. Satan takes a hold of their hivemind vessels with comedic ease and no resistance. They are all beyond corrupt, they fall apart once a month and endure pain unless they fulfill their ill-natured task. There is nothing in this world worth striving for besides Gods love. There is absolutely NOTHING in this world that is worth your place in heaven.

>>34860107
I already answered the question, watching porn and checking out other people is not a big deal at all, every mentally well person does this.
Going out of your way to talk to other people and sext with them is no longer "watching porn", it's emotional cheating at best if you're in a relationship. You are equating things that are not the same at all in order to make your argument look better. It doesn't, it makes you look like a disingenuous manipulator who doesn't want the objective truth, only "your" curated version of subjective truth

>>34860116
Is not disingenuous if I pose a question of a situation that I am currently experiencing with my partner - this is an advice board and this thread touches un similar themes to my inquisition.
Are you saying I dont have the right to ask what the masses think about my woman watching OF creators lude content, chatting them up while I am at work and requesting customs? And yes, I am posi that the content is pornographic, as I have looked into it.
Would you like me to get more specific?

>>34860125
>Are you saying I dont have the right to ask what the masses think about my woman watching OF creators lude content, chatting them up while I am at work and requesting customs?
and I already fucking answered
>Going out of your way to talk to other people and sext with them is no longer "watching porn", it's emotional cheating at best if you're in a relationship.
You got your fucking validation already, so why the fuck do you keep claiming that watching porn and cheating are the same thing, when they are objectively and factually not?

>>34859457
The only exception I'd those who advocate Christianity
Matthew 5:
>You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery'. But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.

>>34859457
>Where can i find true monogamists with no wandering eyes?
Men are polygamous by nature. Only the weakest men settle for one.

>My wife is constantly looking at random man mean on her phone, she has her favorite guys and watches them stroke and bust loads all over their web cam.
Kek are you a cuck or is this cool with most men?

>>34860085
Then stay alone you animal

>>34859758
I meant as in getting a woman who would become a couch potatoe. But you cant always predict that

>>34859770
i agree yeah, as long as it doesnt get to the underessing part in your head or crazy shit like that

>>34860057
>The question I have is why women are so >insecure about porn. Men need sexual >release. Need it. Like hunger or thirst. Porn >isn't a replacement for women in the way >women seem to fear it is.

Theres plenty reasons why, most fall into societal things from my exp. e.g women being subjected to beauty expections even by their friends. kinda vague but oh well. could name more of my exp if u want

>>34859457
Honestly, I've gotten kind of bored of it. Porn stars are fucking gross.

>>34860083
>You are going to drive any prospective mate away with your attitude.
I dont think so because its not a problem when dating

>>34860174
Ig thats my fate

>>34860251
what made you bored? i agree yes its disgusting, jacking it and making it.

>>34860167
Yeah i always considered a christian man, i wish i had one thats not into church dogmas in a way

Sorry was with moma

>>34860270
It's the same everytime. Whore gets fucked and takes a load on her face. It just doesn't do anything for me like it used to.

>>34859457
>true monogamists with no wandering eyes?
i would be and i dont watch porn if i have a gf, except to show her something to try. and even with no gf when i have a crush she is the one im thinking of in the vids. but i have no gf so it's open season. i'll explore vids, text random girls from /soc/ and hookers, and think about getting a prostitute. lust is a sin i can't beat without love. why should i deprive myself of the one and only harmless sexual satisfaction i can get when its not that bad and everyone else does it, even girls?

but when you're watching porn while she's sleeping right next to you after fucking, or displaying hentai plastered on your car or something that's a level of degeneracy i can't get behind. that's a problem. but compared to the fact we're already in hell, the world is already pornified and love is dead. even if you turn it off its everywhere, leading you back to it. we used to say porn wasn't real life. it wasn't, but now it is. an entire generation and a half has been raised mostly by it, and the rest are learning to accept nothing more than the best, in everything, and have the means to do it.

>>34860286
So youre basically desensitized bored?
usually people just go more into degeneracy in such cases. why is your case different?

>>34860292
>i would be and i dont watch porn if i have a gf, except to show her something to try. and even with no gf when i have a crush she is the one im thinking of in the vids. but i have no gf so it's open season. i'll explore vids, text random girls from /soc/ and hookers, and think about getting a prostitute. lust is a sin >i can't beat without love. why should i deprive myself of the one and only harmless sexual satisfaction i can get when its not that bad and everyone else does it, even girls?

thats the thing though i agree! imo im a virgin etc so i want one as well. but doing such things in a relationship is non negotiable. Many seem to ignore my words

>but compared to the fact we're already in hell, the world is already pornified and love is dead. even if you turn it off its everywhere, leading you back to it. we used to say porn wasn't real life. it wasn't, but now it is. an entire generation and a half has been raised mostly by it, and the rest are learning to accept nothing more than the best, in everything, and have the means to do it.

Yeah thats another thing, things like these are getting normalised and are spoon feed to us to further degenerate everyone. Games, movies, any sort of media is basically a fetish or sexualisation catering to certain audience. I hate it so much but oh well, i just cant really enjoy many of the new productions. Its always so tacky and cheap too, no longer fan servive, just straight up porn on my screen

>>34859457
>all the sacrifices, money spending, effort
>will still jump ship when the next big opportunity arises claiming she "fell out of love", "you grew apart"
or
>will resent you for not being the option she deserves, will do less and less, become more unbearable as time goes on but dares not quit the relationship without a backup/big payout
Greetings from Kazakhstan

>>34860355
>fell out of love
He was never IN LOVE you imbecile. Did he even use the word love around you?? Come on now ... you know things arnt going to work out.

>>34860316
>why is your case different
I don't know. The asmr roleplay audios do more for me than videos do.

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>>34860381
Like this?

>>34860371
Are you retarded? Im not OP and that was a post about critiquing women. I thought the Kazakhstan line made it obvious. Although I suppose the
>never in love just for convenience
should be added to the list.

>>34860235
I believe the insecurity about men looking at porn comes from women viewing things as relationship coded. "Oh my God he's looking at porn he doesn't find me attractive" types of thinking when in reality he's just satisfying an urge and moving on.

Women seem to worry about how things look, or "what it might mean if" when men are significantly more direct and less focused sideways communication.

>>34860403
>Do you want your wife doing porn?
No.
>Why?
(Generic answer)
>Consideration as to why you feel she may not want you to look at porn. You are inevitably satisfying an emotional need by utilizing other women to fulfill a physiological craving. How is that not cheating?

>>34860176
Unironically this. And so funny.

>>34860082
People pay to chat with OF girls? Damn. I don't think I would want my wife sexting some horned up guys all day, everday.

>>34860115
True. But that makes you a loser in todays world. I want to know how YOU deal with that, what's your life personally look like? You got friends, a good job? How do you just write the mortal pleasures out of your life when you still need to survive, because offing yourself early is also a sin, one of the worst. Are you just never going to have a gf or worldly success and not even try anymore? And based gif, but those chicks look so fun, even in demon form. Actually especially in demon form. I want to touch them or just touch myself thinking about them. I constantly struggle between what is right and what is right for "this world". But i've made it this far
>37
>technically virgin though i've dryhumped gfs in longterm who i loved, made them cum, and foreplayed/slept with them naked
>no drugs not even weed barely any drinking, and i went to college
>been agnostic most my life but still moral, but i fully believe God is real after 2020 and satanic forces control the world
>didn't get the covid shot, i believe 80% of humanity is now under mind control, agent smiths for the illuminati to use whenever to corrupt the last scattered 20%
>my best friend was brainwashed as a trans witch for the church of satan and the rest of them became commies
>these are the endtimes and everywhere i look there's a test
>banned from reddit and even X there is nowhere for me, 4chan isn't even it anymore
knowing this, there is no future of this world for me. my dreams of being a successful film/rock music creator don't matter anymore. making friends doesn't matter anymore, they'll drag me back into the world, keep me hooked on it, satanic memes, drugs, watch woke and garbage media, go to actual rituals that most concerts and events have become now, and make me feel worse for not being like them
but im still torn. so not only do i have a midlife crisis but an moral existential one too
>>34860292
this is also me. what's the point, really? I've already died inside. help me, brother.

>>34860403
Youre definately right, women care about titles A LOT. Many women also dont look like pornstars, or simply will never be close.
Its also about comparison in a way. shes gonna look far better than so said gf. Afterall as women we really are taught its most important thing about us, thats why so many women are so interested in themselves as well. Look at cartoons, social media, games. male and female characters vary SO MUCH. Girls treat u differently too, theres a hierarchy to it. all that really does get in your head especially during puberty. So when thats the case yk. if hes looking at porn, its like your smv is not enough, therefore so are you, it becomes personal. Many women also simply want to be their mans 1st in terms of love and sexual attraction, using porn contradicts it. makes em feel unspecial. Not to name personal experience and sexualisation from a young age as a girl with bigger boobs growing up
We really are conditioned from a young age
Also as a woman youre kinda forced into it, unless youre isolated autist like me. theres prob more i could name

>>34860392
That same format, yea.

>>34860417
>You are inevitably satisfying an emotional need by utilizing other women to fulfill a physiological craving.
I don't think this is valid because the other woman here isn't real in the tangible sense. It's a video or an image I can't interact with so I can satisfy myself.

But even if it were legitimate: my wife isn't sexually available enough to pull this card. A significant percentage of women aren't.. and they don't realize that a lot of men are getting off to porn to keep themselves from pestering their wife or even being rejected because their baseline desire for sex is obviously and significantly higher than their partners

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>>34860424
also im broke-ish (less than 10k and CC debt building) and looking for a better job especially since my current retail (which I literally only have because trump won) has cut my hours to basically nothing, but there are no jobs out there it seems, I send my resume/CV to the void and get nothing back, not even rejection, which drives my depression even more, and i drive doordash (which again is only good because trump) on the side just getting by, which constantly puts me close to asian massage parlors that are exactly what you think they are, and they tempting me, i've made topics on it before...and i was spending lots on OF and video chats which didnt seem so bad because really what the fuck am i saving for anymore?

The past few days all I did was jerk off. I've never been that bad. I didn't leave the apt, i didn't eat, i came multiple times. actually i've discovered if im doing that, im not hungry. even when i was done, my mind was a lighthead blur. I was hooked. But the other day, in the shower I decided its a problem and no more. I deleted most the apps i use for chatting and though I'm sure i can't stay away forever i'm tapering off it, im doing errands, sending out hundreds of applications, practice guitar more and run and pushups and shit and saving those apps for maybe once or twice a week.

but again, thats the mindset of thinking things still matter here peaking thru. that if i improve my life and get fit and money and talk to women better, I'd find success. Have the career and hobbies and gf/wife I love and be set for life. But back to what I said in the last post, that doesn't even truly matter anymore. I'm so torn bro.
>>34860115
>99% of women are half humans with no souls
what, do you really think there's a 1% out there anymore? and that they're not already married or broken by their friends and social media society?

>>34859457
They got married or killed themselves because no one loved them
Now stop making bait threads about how your body count is totally the same thing, it's stale

>>34859457
Most of us do yeah. It’s an epidemic and it’s not ok. If you do run into a guy who doesn’t watch porn or jerk off, you’ll probably be able to tell there’s something different about him. A light in his eyes.

>>34859485
Stop killing children to satisfy your wound collecting narcissism

>>34860538
Hoping to get answers from that one guy

>>34859457
i only watch gifs of girls masturbating so i imagine myself fucking them. i don't think that counts as porn.

>>34859457
A huge proportion of men have at least seen porn. Not all of them will actively watch it while in a relationship.
I'm not proud of it, but I've seen porn. I'd still prefer to wait until marriage to have sex, and I wouldn't watch it in a relationship.

Don't listen to the coomers who claim you "need" to have sex to prevent porn use. It's the same mindset which justifies cheating.

>>34859730
yes, women are retarded

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Well I do know one of those pornstars would appreciate having sex with a tall future 6-pack man like me who makes money and tries to live a positive life despite having the perviness of Austin Powers without the humor and twice the boredom.

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>>34859457
No such thing. All heterosexual men WILL look and be lustfully aroused whenever they see something sexy, their eyes WILL wander. Being in a relationship doesn't change that. Your 'only have eyes for me' would only work in places where women are covered head to toe everywhere in public, online and on TV.

>>34859457
Bad news op. Not assuming you are a women. Because of not providing timestamp rules. Answers is yes. Women claim their right to have high standards about chosing a partner because your vagina and boobs have money value in terms of every video content when imitating tik tok and e-whores and that means men have to be high in proporpion of money and good gens. Because of Electra's complex or daddy isues/sugar daddies. Also as a women your dating pool is wide with orbiters and street gang people

>>34859457
So yes porn is all we have while all of you reject us like trash. Enjoy your red pill miss foid

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>>34859457
Do all women love attention?
Are all of em really attention-hungry thots?
Where can i find worthwhile women who don't need attention 24/7 and don't have daddy issues?

>>34859482
I am non monogamous, I love every sexy and hot girl and I masturbate by looking at their hot sexy bodies.

>>34859457
I don't watch it anymore, but I struggled with it for years.

>>34860550
I have met men that do it more or less and definately the ones who do it a lot or are straight up coomers are still fucked up. Many of the ones who do it had many mental issues and generally not great at talking to people, straight up mentally ill, anxious etc. U can also tell easily based on their morals

>>34862038
100% agreed, my issue is in the relationship. infidelity and micro cheating got so much normalised u get retarded answers of cattle that are unable to control themselves therefore think its okay to even cheat because theyre addicted to release, moki brain. I dont think ill be really able find a man that wants to wait till marriage which is another reason for complete celibacy and solitude.

>>34862492
Im sure she will if u accept her indian population level bodycount

>>34862509
Thats really just self control and indugence, nothing wrong in noticing, just continuing

>>34862545
I really hope what everyone is saying about women having a huge choice of mates is true. I see many ugly bums with pretty starved women, can they all really be rich? Also im looking more so for partnership not to be a trophy wife.

>>34862549
Youre not older than 17 but ill take it

>>34862823
Theres plenty of women who are that. Just depends on their socialising process and wether or not they follow any religion.
still rare

>>34862843
I mean good job man u did it, keep it up

thanks to all the bait too, funni

>>34859457
Just cause someone waches porn doesn't mean they are polyamourus. I have watched porn since i was like 13 and i am 100% monogamist, and all of my friends who watch it are monogamous too. Plus they might quit once they have a gf

>>34861996
still waiting for ya, guy. im going to bed hope you come back to respond i want your personal perspective.

>>34859457
What's your body count?
How much romance media do you consume?
How much smut to you read per year?
If the answer to any of these is anything but 0 or none, then your question is voided as you don't deserve the man you want.

>>34863151
>consuming romance media is the same as orgasming to another women
The coomer cope is getting crazy

>>34863154
>Investing yourself in the relationships of others constantly
Many romance stories feature, or romanticize, infidelity, and it is unacceptable to be with someone who enjoys infidelity in any form and who inevitably roots for the cheating party.
>Coomer
I don't watch porn, roastie, porn is cuckoldry.

>>34863154
How is being envious of an ideal romantic relationship any different from porn where it's ideal female form? Women mentally cheat and men "physically" cheat.

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I stopped watching porn about 15 years ago when I noticed how much it rots your brain.
I’ve been in a monogamous relationship for 10 years now, and just have sex a few times a week.
Even without porn and all the sex I could want, my eyes still wander sometimes, but I’d never do anything besides just look.
Meanwhile my wife watches a ton of porn, but I don’t care. Realistically it makes us have sex more.

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>>34860270
You can't really half-do what you truly believe in, you can't follow a man who says to put lust to death and then live a life full of other sins. For Christians, the church represents the living Body of Christ, so following these is a necessity...

But I get what you mean, there is an example of a man who spends all his t8me defending faith instead of growing in it, it's like a man who spends all his time at the gun range and the kickboxing gym to protect his family instead of being there for them.

>>34859457
If you keep him sexualy satisfied about 65% of the time, he won't have much use for porn. Checking out women and acknowledging attractive women are two different things, but as long as you aren't a hypocrite it's a pretty reasonable desire to not want a partner with wandering eyes.

>>34865995
And there's a difference between an attractive woman passing by you and you deciding to keep looking at her when she does. Stop justifying degeneracy you pagan.

>>34866117
I never said staring is ok and I literally said it's a reasonable desire to not want a partner who rubbernecks at every attractive person they see. I'm not even a fucking pagan you mid tier cunt.

>>34863159
>I don't watch porn, roastie, porn is cuckoldry.
P much, thing is tho porn is not only when u watch people fuck. it can be anything feeding your sexual desire, like even just a naked girl. Youre still a cuck regardless, because youre not fucking her

>>34865828
Yeah its basically the same thing, romance books are like porn to men, unrealisitc fantasy. Feeding into it as a woman will 100% make you less satisfied with your relationship no matter how good it is.

>>34865936
>You can't really half-do what you truly believe in, you can't follow a man who says to put lust to death and then live a life full of other sins. For Christians, the church represents the living Body of Christ, so following these is a necessity...

I agree, thing is there are just so many dogmas. "being a christian" could mean a lot of things within the religion, dogmas, churches that might not necesarily be the option for me. would want someone dedicated enough to kinda learn it all themselves and decide, not just blindly listen.

>But I get what you mean, there is an example of a man who spends all his t8me defending faith instead of growing in it, it's like a man who spends all his time at the gun range and the kickboxing gym to protect his family instead of being there for them.

That too, being able to actually apply it. Had a problem with someone who was basically doing it all for atttention in a way. He seemd high when talking of how his friend said he couldve been a prophet. Yet he sins in uninmaginable ways, even ones he agrees are sins. Im sure youre a prophet while a comfortable lustful coomer. By participating he was doing things against himself basically and hated it.

>>34866156
Thats kinda my reason for asking, im overly loyal, id want the same.

>>34863154
>masturbating to romance media is the same as masturbasting to another woman
Yes.

>>34866156
Chill, I was paraphrasing...

>>34859457
I watched a clown shit in a woman's mouth, I'm not sure there is anything more fucked up. I shot cum 4 feet in the air.

>>34866399
No

>>34859457
I can't wait until this ugly ass photo is off the catalog, stupid thread topic too

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>>34859457
Honestly, men who regularly watch porn must be like 99% of the male population. Im not proud of it, I was exposed to it since an early age, it's free, its everywhere. Its almost impossible to escape. If I met a man who didnt watch porn, id ask for advice.


In any case, even if you did find a man who didnt watch porn, would you be willing to have sex on demand? No? Then you will have to accept that your man has needs.

>>34859485
Women have every single right that exist offered by democracy, except killing babies. Is that not enough?

>>34859457
Yeah, and they all deserve to die alone for it.

>>34868567
why does he exclusively have to masturbate to strangers? why can't he masturbate to photos, videos, or fantasies of his girlfriend?

>>34865907
>Meanwhile my wife watches a ton of porn
kek what a dumb cuck

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I'm a khhv I don't watch any kind of porn and I avoid looking at women in public

Whenever I'm with a girl I don't watch porn

>>34868701
Go back to your containment thread, fatty.

>>34859457
catholic church

>>34868567
>even if you did find a man who didnt watch porn, would you be willing to have sex on demand?
Mate, if you admit that porn is unhealthy, surely you understand that it's unreasonable to insist that women act as personal whores to any man they date? It's feeding the same impulse which has been so devastatingly fed by porn.

Even within marriage, while sex is expected, it's hardly something that she has to do every single time he asks or else be okay with him cheating or watching porn.

>>34870706
bwahahahaha

>>34871951
NTA but everytime, no of course not.
But there are dead marriages who still have the woman screech about porn use.

>>34872260
>there are dead marriages who still have the woman screech about porn use.
Two wrongs don't make a right. While the husband has every right to be upset that his wife won't sleep with him, that doesn't give him a pass to look outside the relationship, although porn is of course much less bad than cheating.

I feel worse when I'm looking at porn, and worse when I'm not looking at porn