What is /htgwg/?How to Get Women General is by men, for men, about women, so bring all of your questions about getting and dealing with women here. Some anons on this site actually get laid, and some of them even want to help. If you're trying to meet and date women, then this is the place to ask questions, seek advice, and share experiences. We know how hard it can be. We got you bro.>What is /htgwg/ not?These threads are NOT for whining, moping, incels, volcels, MGTOW, hopelessness, or demoralization. We're all aware that meeting and dating women is hard today, and even harder for some, but /htgwg/ is for trying to overcome the challenges. IGNORE the posters who complain, give up, or insist there's nothing they can do. This site has other boards and threads that they can pollute. BE SMART: Spot the bait, don't reply, and DON'T WASTE TIME ARGUING WITH THEM!>How to ask for adviceContext is important: be more specific than "This girl ghosted me, why?" We can't help if we don't know the situation, so try to provide as much (useful) info as possible ("I was at the bar, this chick was checking me out..."). What's your relationship with the girl? How long have you known her? Any conversation screenshots? Etc... Don't forget to ask an actual question.>Resources and Bookshttps://wingman.live/ (AI dating coach)https://pdfcoffee.com/318797392-mark-manson-models-2016pdf-4-pdf-free.htmlhttps://archive.org/details/robert-glover-no-more-mr-nice-guy-id-353324692-size-612https://www.youtube.com/@HealthyGamerGGhttps://www.youtube.com/@YourWingmamhttps://www.doctornerdlove.com/blog/https://pastebin.com/7U5Sdhwq (Leykis 101)https://dokumen.pub/why-women-deserve-less-firstnbsped-1467978302-r-1917433.htmlhttps://www.fantasticanachronism.com/p/how-to-be-good-at-datingREMEMBER: It's good to read and prepare, but don't overdo it. Get off this site: go learn and build up your social skills by meeting actual women in the real world.Previous: >>34839725
Reposting my list. Hopefully some of these videos will help you guys.Good starter videos>Why We Shouldn't Leave Incels Behind https://youtu.be/xHmDJyVT3g0?si=GEUm2HAZ-I6QpLgY>How To Get A Girlfriend https://youtu.be/05tG47pv1vM?si=x6Ngo0hvj7M9L1wn>Dr. K Breaks Down The Science of Flirting https://www.youtube.com/live/0k3YUL3iQds?si=OvrpJ6ZNK0je7Ybq>How To ACTUALLY Find The Right Person For You https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSfuHwENzXM>Why Your Tinder Match Isn't Going To Date You https://youtu.be/KJX-8C7OHmw?si=5HcbRpJbUa7PE-gOMore for Men>Why You Should NEVER Confess Your Love https://youtu.be/xHkcIRZa6lo?si=zGxmCIXyHEAbsXdQ>Can Men & Women Be Friends? https://youtu.be/OafdDpFjOIg?si=O4SIMEOF5EzBFKN7>The Interesting Truth About What Women Need Today & How To Get What YOU Want! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2mD6_g3xpk>5 Harsh Realities About Women | Every Man MUST Face Alone! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkhLybpZKzIMore for women>10 Brutal Dating Tips for Women That Women Need to Hear | And Men Need to Share! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCMKgpl7HW4>Why You're The Least Valuable Friend https://youtu.be/ql5sWIEAcFw?si=lYx6LPTx8xaaS7OM>Why Women Can't Find A Soulmate https://youtu.be/58kdlgKvEU0?si=ZskCXZLFY1iMmbpF>A Perspective on Female Loneliness https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbGZaGzWdfsExtras>How Your Brain Perceives Love When You Have Autism https://youtu.be/KlSsI2CKYaQ?si=1XYAjx97G9oeNeS_>Men Are Getting This Totally Wrong About Being A Simp or Nice Guy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn-U2Sx4spo>The Addiction Women Can't Talk About https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDv-bX7Pegg>Your Standards Are Way Higher Than They Should Be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diIc5e2RLKI>"Why Women Deserve Less": Myron Gaines Loves Projection & Bad Math https://youtu.be/u6QcjXub8fo?si=6TaYexKVRHBncmOm>Why 40% Of Young Men Need Erectile Retraining https://youtu.be/2MwTDoT8q_A?si=C-7aytPOjXwgOuIX
women get told>its okay, youll find someone who loves you for youand men get told>get fitter, find better friends, get better hobbies, be more interesting, read a book on how to be charismatic, be less needy, dress better, get a better haircut, try harder, stop overthinking, dont be a loser, have a good job and nice place, read at least one book a week, know how to cook meals, know how to be a good flirt, dont overdo it, go to therapy, stop masturbating, ...
>>34863640Oh these look more helpful and up my speed (am autistic incel) than the stuff in the OP. Thanks
>>34863615At least a couple of the girls in the top pic would clean up nicely, it really is remarkable what a flattering haircut and a better sense of style can do
>>34863700Thanks! I've been working on a new OP as well so it's way less misogynistic and red pilled.It's always important to remember that your partner is your friend and your equal. Don't let a few bad dates and cunty foids warp your mind in to thinking all women are monsters. It's not ok for anyone to treat you like garbage, but that doesn't mean it's your job to fix them or put up with it.Goes for both men and women; it's always ok to leave a toxic relationship. Try your best and trust your own judgment.
It is important to be observant and not follow your feelings all the time when attracting women. Your feelings may be saying you won her over, but if you observe what is happening carefully you'll see you are just a friend to her. Be observant.
This thread has rarely helped anyone and is mostly here for bots and namefagsThat being said, keep it up. Good containment thread
>>34863802Yeah we will jackass.
What is the standard protocol in current era for hitting up a girl who is a vague acquaintance that you don't have any direct line of communication with?Internet stalking then slide into her DMs?Ask a mutual acquaintance to pass your number on?Something else?Or is it a complete no-go?
>>34863809How about you try being her friend and see what happens if it will grow or not. I think you're putting too much emphasis on sex with women. You got to know them well first before you can actually love them.
>>34863802this thread is single men telling other single men how to not be singleprove me wrong
>>34863817You know all I've seen you do on this website is bitch and whine. You don't actually want to help people, but would rather call everyone who does not think like you an idiot for not being at your level. What have you done anon? You claim to be anonymous but you have humiliated yourself and now I have presence of you because you say the same thing over and over again, never changing. I've seen this behavior from you since I first had a name attached to my posts. You are just as much of a namefag as me. In fact I'm gonna call you Gerald from now on.
>>34863817I mean, just because someone is single doesn't mean they don't know how to do something. I haven't owned a bike since I was 12 but that doesn't mean I forgot how to ride one.
>>34863825That's just Gerald he only likes to find the negatives in things and doesn't like having fun with his peers.
Literally a schizo-posting hub for that namefag. Yes. Become contained.
>>34863814I can't be her friend if I can't ckmmunicate with her, dickhead.
>>34863852Shut the fuck up Gerald, you're only talking like that because no one questions you.
>>34863862If you introduce yourself and keep it light it won't be that much of an issue. It's the same with had you talked to a guy.
Always believe you can get the girl no matter what.
>>34863615Meme humanities degree all the way. I love cute midwit girls
>>34863662I have only heard the exact opposite IRLFamily and everyone else older always say the former, verbatimAnd every woman my age is following the latter and trying to be a girlboss
>approach a phat ass girl in my neighborhood>get digits>she's open to a date>exchange a few texts>we try to settle on a date>"today's running too much, we'll do it next time">text her today because the weather is nice">ghosts me for 8h>check again>blocked.she could've just said no to the whole thing.I'm just tired of the whole dating thing.
Look being in a relationship is supposed to be scary, but you can get through it if you try your best through it all. You're tough for going through it okay. Your woman is gonna strengthen you each day for you being with her alright?
Lost my virginity today bros.. pretty underwhelming. I fucked her for two hours and didn't cum. Not because of nerves I was hard the entire time I just couldn't feel anything at all. Literally not a single ounce of pleasure in my dick. 26 years of depression for something that doesn't even feel good. What a waste of time. Gonna ask her if we can go no condom next time
need a honest answer. if you went your early 20s without fucking or relationship how does it affect a man? guys say it doesnt matter, you aint missing out on anything bla bla bla but i dont believe it. Does it really matter? how much did i miss out? do you ever make up for it?
>>34865637A bunch of dumbass conversations about how stupid authority is while making jokes about those below you amounting to being dick suckers. I don't think you missed out on anything.
Reminder that she expects you to hit on her.Beautiful women don't fuck cowards.
>>34865637It matters a teensy bit in the sense that the experience makes subsequent dating a little easier. But there are a million other things that matter more that having sex has zero bearing on
>>34865732after studying the minds of women, fucking this. i've been so afraid to make a move on my dates which led to them ghosting me. i'm only realizing this now
>>34865512>two hoursEven 20 minutes would have been too much. Wtf are you doing?
I feel like I'm making negative progress with my game.I'm no virgin, I meet new people all the time, have friends in different places... but recently I've begun a job in the mall and I see a ton of beautiful women, but this place is just NOT conducive to talking to girls. The hot ones literally run through the mall. They expect to be hit on. Their guards are up. I've had a hot girlfriend and her default was walking very fast, sometimes faster than me. How the fuck do I catch up?Today I was trying to casually catch up to one girl when suddenly and even hotter girl just appears from behind a corner in a model strut past me. What the fuck am I supposed to do here? I'd literally have to cause a scene to get any of these women's attention by running or shouting after them. It's ridiculous.When I do approach at the mall, I've already been following them for at least a minute hoping they slow down and they've probably already noticed I'm behind them, increasing the creep factor. It's a hot fucking mess. I'd literally have to train myself to 1. SEE ATTRACTIVE WOMAN2. STOP AND SAY HI IMMEDIATELY WITHOUT THOUGHTHow the fuck is this done. I have gotten the numbers of a handful of other mall employees and fucked one of them already, I might just stick with that, really.
>>34865830just don't go after girls in a rush unless you have the balls to run after them also, i think having shame is the number one thing that will prevent successshame to look weird, or awkward, or have people notice youa true motherfucker has no shamefeels no shame, does what he wants accepting the reprucusions of his actionseither a) you accept that very few women seem aproachable and only go after those. so youll have days which you approach no-oneor b) stop giving a fuck and run after those you want to talk to no matter what
>>34865838Thanks, I'm going for b), fuck it. I approached a girl today and I had already passed her and she saw me follow her for a long time and she just walked away from me scared. I felt like shit. I have to approach immediately!
What are you supposed to do with a girl starts to call the curtain, so to say? Like she starts saying "okay... well it was nice to meet you" in the middle of a conversation. I feel like asking for a number at this juncture where she's ending the conversation is a waste of time, even if she gave it, it's such an obvious IoD that I just walk away.Am I fucking up by doing this?
Date a woman who gives you honesty not awkward coded messages.
>>34865853ignore walk with her a little and ask her another questionwhenever a girl says something you don't like the simplest thing you should do is pretend she didn't say it and move on to what you acctually want to talk aboutbasically everything a girl says is her testing how you'd react to test your intentionsif you let her leave, it shows you were not really trying to pursue her, you were fakei know it's pretty hard, but having a strong will and determination to succeed basically no matter what is importanta girl will see this and give you her number / ig(of course wether she responds or agrees to a date is not guaranteed)but you always want to get to the point of asking her numbner>>34865843yea, going for it right away is keynd also feeling like shit means you're a normal human beingand you've been trained to be a normal human beingatm my instincts tell me that having normal reactions is counterintuitive to being able to cold approach, but its just a theory
>>34865732>>34865750Many of them just want attention, most of them have several mules orbiting them and have plenty of options in general, not to mention situationships or other short or medium term romances.
>>34866082>most of them*allunless they never leave the house or something
>>34865512First time is always the least fun, you just need to get used to having sex, it gets better
>>34865853What's the harm in asking for a number anyway, you might get rejected/ghosted, but that's how it works. Unless you know there's nothing going on, it's worth trying
>>34865512I lasted 2 seconds so it couldve been worse
>>34865637No idea. I love sex. Everyone says sex is overrated and stuff but I never felt that. My issue is love which yes, fucking someone you actually are emotionally attracted too is way better.
>>34865756I didn't feel a single thing. What am I supposed to do? Even when she blew me I barely felt it. Making out was way better I'd rather do that and then jack off on my own desu. I cum when i jack off in like 30 seconds>>34866512Yeah I told her I was a virgin so she expected 5 seconds. She told me the last guy she fucked lasted 5 minutes
>>34866739This does sound like nervousness desu. Sometimes guys nut immediately sometimes they dont at all, but usually after their first time they average out. See if she'll give you a second chance
If she is peaceful around you and if you are a little scared of women that is a good thing.
>>34863615What do 120 IQ STEMcels with mid 5 figures salary look like
>>34866739even tho it didnt make ur pee pee feel good. Did you at least fuck her hard and did she seem to enjoy it? were you wildly passionate and touching and kissing her all over? changing positions?did she orgasm?
Peacefulness is as good as reassurance from women.
>>34863611Open your door and say grrr chica to your neighbor, goth girl.
I'm 25 and go to a law school right now, which is on the same campus as the undergrad. Would it be weird for me to try to get a girlfriend from the undergrad population? And if not, how should I go about getting a girl? Basically the only overlap I have now is at the gym, but otherwise there are very few events (besides sports I suppose) where I could organically meet people.
I'm going on a second date with this girl she's not really my type but I want to fuck or become FWB or something. Is there a good way to do this without seeming like an asshole or ruining my chances?I was thinking maybe just being honest like "I'm not really looking for a relationship now but I think your cute" or some shit or should I just be "like down to fuck?" I don't know if I'm handsome enough for that
How the fuck do I know if I'm making eye contact when they're all always wearing sunglasses?
Be your fun self not this success story the baby boomer generation threw on you that you feel you need to adhere to because your crush wants a man who has a life.
>>34868105>the undergrad populationnigga everyone going to the college is on equal footing. if women are entrusted with the ability to steer the future of civilization by voting at 18 then surely everyone agrees that they're capable of making their own decisions regarding who they date, right? there's totally not a weird societal doublethink going on where women in their early 20s are simultaneously empowered girlboss women but also easily manipulated just-a-girls who could never be held accountable for their own decisions, surely.
You can't make every woman happy.
You stand a better chance with her if she knows you well and is able to predict your patterns.
went up to a girl in a store today, she seemed a little interested at first but then she said she was getting a phone call and left to go meet the person on the phone but she said it was nice talking to me. Was that just her way of exiting? Faking a phone call to leave? You really can't do much else there, right?
>>34851132>getting along with club president and VP>we're both laughing and talkingchad desu. the president is cute, but it would be best to avoid hitting on her, huh? i don't want to fuck up the club
Ever since I started taking care of my skin I can comfortably face girls when talking to them because I'm observing their skin.
How do I undo my fate and find a virgin bride?
>>34869564>and findby finding myself*
>>34865732No. She expects CHAD to hit on her. If you are an average guy at best she will say she has a boyfriend or act completely uninterested (i.e. poor eye contact, trying to move along quickly, acting really coy and uninterested) but then you also run the risk of getting in trouble for sexual harassment or being labeled a creep.
>>34869564statistically low probabilitybut you can increase your chances by approaching girls at cafes, parks, shopping mallsevery 100 hours of approaches cn probbly land you one date with a virgin
>>34869577I'm tired boss
>>34869577>Yeah just approach and get rejected by 100s of girls bro its easy bro juat destroy your self confidence and or get accused of being a creepy weirdo Fuck this retarded advice.
>>34869596I agree that getting rejected over and over is mentally destroyingTo that there are two counters:1) approach with a friend - your rates go way up, and you're just hanging with a buddy so the self confidence loss effect is basiclly gone sicne it becomes a funny episode with your buddy2) use alcohol - one of the biggest copes but it works3) make every approach an asset rather than a loss- make videos, blog posts, journals, notes, voice recordings, that way each approach is valuablebut most importantlyyea don't approach, it's actually very hard and painfulbasically gamblingBut some want it bad enough that it's gotta be doneYou won't find your virgin wife on a dating app, nor at a running club.She's just out there running erands at the grocery store or at the mall
>>348696011. Have no friends willing to do that kind of shit.2. Alcohol is horrible for your body and rarely does it increase success rate. It will increase your confidence but the usual issue of coming across creepy or the girls acting uninterested or having them walk away from you obviously trying to get away, or having them say they "already have a boyfriend" still arises. Also, women only go to the bar with their boyfriend or groups of friends.3. Fucking retarded advice. Girls are not anymore receptive to being picked up by a guy at the grocery store.
>>34869601>make every approach an asset rather than a loss- make videos, blog posts, journals, notes, voice recordings, that way each approach is valuable>but most importantlyyea don't approach, it's actually very hard You just contradicted yourself.
>>34869616yea it's the truth thodon't approachbecause it's so free to do, it has insane downsides such as mental destruction if you do it loneof course if you're smart you find ways to deal with it like I listed>>348696131. they don't have to approach, just when you're hanging with your friend just go out where there's people and you approach peopledon't tell em what you're doing just do it and they will follow. you cn meet tons of cool people this way2. right alcohol allows you to protect your mind, doesn't make you better3. not retarded, the reason cold approach is hard becuse you feel you lose when you get rejected. if every rejection is a win for you personally by building knowledge or online audience then it becomes. positive feedback loopsimple psychology4 - just because the chances are low doesn't mean they're 0tht's the whole philosophy of it
>>34869613>>34869632to add: yes people go to bars with groups of friendsyou should too, and you should be open to meeting other peoplethat's the whole pointyou go to places and you meet peoplemeeting other guys has no downsides as wellif they hang out with hot girls you like, being friends with those guys is actually beneficial to your life
>>34869564you don't.you will suffer the same dreaded fate as your cuckold dad by choosing to cuckmaxx with a ran through whore
can i live a life like leo? banging top tier women for all my life? what do i need to do? i've give up on love, marriage, having kids and stuff. Need advice from older anons
>match >she's wearing pants with the word "juicy" in the back in a mall>tell her "Juicy pants in public is crazy work">She replies "hahahaha whyyyy"What the fuck am I supposed to say to that
>>34869725Reply with emojis if you are ok with degrading yourself with femfaggot skinwalking.
>>34869729What's your problem
>>34869747Females are faggots. They always use emojis because they're insane.So if you want to be like that too, send her emojis.
>>34869752What gave you the impression that I want to reply with emojis? I'm here to see how I can reply to that shitty response aren't I?
>>34869725If she doesn't pull her weight, stop entertaining her. Give a closed low effort reply to match her energy.
>>34869596You're 90% correct. People aren't ment to be rejected 600 times in a row. Average person before the internet I think had like, 6-10 rejections their entire life.Even still, it's important to understand the psychological of rejection and to judge whether or not your feelings are correct and how to process and express them in a healthy way.>Rejection sensitivity: The real reason you have problems with relationships.https://youtu.be/ACI7xDjajPg?is=xFQQsxUw_7vSYEI_Another thing that might help you is to understand the true meaning of cold approaching. Usually when it's used now it's with this idea of like Boomhower from King of the Hill or Johnny Bravo where they just go up to random women in the supermarket and try to get their number. What it cold approaching really means is to just not be insecure to talk to a random person regardless of if you have romantic intentions or not. If you see a guy with a cool tshirt of your favorite anime, go give them a compliment and make some small talk. You see a woman reading your favorite book while waiting for the bus? Go make some small talk with her about thr book, see if she likes it, or even state your opinions on it. Going up to a stranger and asking for their hand in marriage is def stupid and going to get you rejected. But if you see someone interesting that looks like they could make a new addition to your life, go up to them and feel things out.
>>34869725>Juicy pants in public is crazy workWhat does that even mean? It seems like you kind of set yourself up for this.
>>34863611
>>34869758Yeah definitely>>34869809Well her profile really had nothing else that stands out, just pictures and some generic bio.
>>34863611>how to get women>Get off this site: go learn and build up your social skills by meeting actual women in the real world.yep& don't forget recursive self-improvement, it becomes faster and easier to improve yourself (and the resulting self-esteem) over time. it's like compound interest.build a life (job, fitness, friends, social events, hobbies, some disposable $$$, artistic interests, people and places where you're a regular, general culture & conversation skills, home, car, etc.) women will WANT to be a part of.
>>34863713Thanks, its real necessary to get shit like Myron Gaines off the OP.>>34863615Only women pick the partner because of money.>>34863802It has helped me.
>>34849191If anyone cares she never replied so I get to move on now
>friend talks to a girl about me, says I'm a great guy etc.>she says to him she'd like to meet up to get to know each other>he gave me her number, now I have to reach outWhat should my message be? My first instinct is to put it all in one message "hey x, my buddy y told me about you etc etc, I'd love to get to know you, I know this place how does sunday 3 pm sound?"But I'm open to suggestions
>>34870105Be yourself. If it works out it works out, if it doesn't it doesn't. It is what it is. Best way to know she really likes you is if she wants you to be a central part of her life. If she just passes you on by forgetting you easily, it ain't worth it.
>>34869648You call that skeleton a top tier woman? LMAO
>>34870105Honestly that. Drop the date part till you talk to her for at least a few minutes to feel her out but if not I think that's still good.
I think anons should preface their posts with whether their questions or advice is about seeking actual relationships or quick fucks with women.
>>34870105I had this happen sorta once, some girl's sister gave me her number and It went much the same way. Theres literally no guesswork here, she wants to go on a date with you so she'll say yes
>>34864806cool anecdote, have you EVER FUCKING READ THIS FUCKING THREAD?retard
Should I touch a girl’s rim before I fuck her doggy style
>>34863611women itt, can you actually cum from a regular sized dick or does it always require clit rubbing and oral to make you cum?wish I just had a thick 8 incher or something, whats the point of sex if you cant cum at the same time
>>34870929It ain’t all it’s cracked up to be. Most girls can only get a minor portion of it in their mouths and the cowgirl is less fun because she can’t bounce without knocking out her cervix.On the other hand, I have no issues making her cum. I don’t even have to be particularly good. The dick itself is a skill.
>>34871012>it aint all its cracked up to be>the dick itself makes her cumkill yourself
>>34871016What’s your problem
>>34871035whats yours? I asked a legitimate question and your idea of being helpful was to brag about your cock
The best mindset and vibe you can give women on apps or in person is “I’m having fun, I don’t care if you like me or not because I already have girls, do you want to have fun with me?”. The worst possible vibe you can give off is “your attention means a lot to me because I have no options so this is a big deal”. Knowing this is a big deal if you want to attract hot women. These women have so many options and if they pickup the slightest hint that your life sucks and you need her to feel better then she will run from you. She wants to jump on a train that is already moving in a good direction. What does this mean for a lot of you? You have to kind’ve fake it. You need pictures that make it look like you are already living that lifestyle. And the harder part is to give off the vibe in person that you have other options. Getting your dating app dialled in is very helpful because getting daily matches makes you feel more valuable. Imagine what life is like for a nice woman, she has so much attention from men that she feels valuable. You will stick out in a bad way if you don’t seem to be in a similar situation.You have to learn to cultivate good energy in yourself. You need to learn to push your fun buttons. Unfiltering yourself, acting in a way that feels good. You are not having boring conversations with her because that’s boring for you. You speak with passion because it’s enjoyable. Need to really cultivate these feelings in your own body and become familiar with them. Finding men that already have this down will help you get this.Meeting women has to be seen as natural. It’s not a big deal at all. You are really comfortable with it. It happens often. You don’t need to meet up with her but wouldn’t it be fun if you two did?
>>34871090fuck that. Im just telling her that I like her and I just want to be happy. if she cares so much about all the rest then its whatever.
>>34871048I wasn’t trying to answer your question, I was commenting.
>>34871104The song isn’t “girls just want you to like them” anon.
>>34871177no the song is men also just wanna have fun so fuck off and stop setting all these imaginary faggot rules and just live.
>>34871174you werent commenting, you were bragging about your fat cock on fucking 4chan. and reinforcing what I said which is that women need either a fat cock or extra help to cum. very helpful thanks retard. KYS
When you shoot your ropes and you think of the girl whilst nutting, what does that mean? Through personal experience if I like a girl and I bust one it feels like it shoots out like a spring, is that natural because you want to be nutting on that girl or in her?
>>34871208I disagree.
>>34871188I think you’ll find it’s the only unbreakable rule there is.
>>34870266women would kill for that body bruh. she is a victoria secret model
>>34871767the unbreakable rule is that you cant show a woman that she means a lot to you?guess ill be single foreveralso id say theres some nuance. if you are attractive you can say and do whatever the fuck you want
Subtle Energetic AttractionA lot of your attractiveness has to do with your nervous system and how grounded you are, does that sound like a modern cliché? Many of you guys struggle to even get one girl but have you ever asked yourself why other men seem to at least be able to get a girlfriend easily. If you stopped coping that the reason is your looks then you may be ready to hear the truth. Women want to feel safe. That doesn’t mean they want a harmless man. It means they want somebody who makes them feel safe in life. Safe in public. Safe in a loud bar. Safe when driving on the freeway. When your body is calm in hectic environments, she can feel relaxed. Imagine going to a party and you only know one person there. If this makes you nervous, if even imaging it makes you nervous, your nervous system is probably fucked up. When you are grounded in your own energy, people literally move out of the way for you. People give you space. And guess what, women gravitate towards you. They don’t know why, it’s not a conscious thing. They just feel drawn to you. Magnetic. Attractive. Even if you look like an orc. Imagine how much easier it is to talk to a woman when you feel this calm in social settings. Lot of men are afraid to approach because they aren’t even calm enough. They are thinking about what they need to say because their attention is so scattered they can’t even act chill so they have to pretend they have it together. How do you get this sense of calm when you lack it? You have to learn a new skillset which is tuning into the body. (1/2)
>>34872399Your body is full of sensations. You can feel the temperature on your skin. You can feel your heart beating. How your shirt feels on you. How your breathing feels. Emotions are sensations too. Anxiety gives you physical sensations, tightening, heart beating faster, shallower breathing. Through feeling the sensations inside your body you become more connected to your body. You actually learn how your body works. The thing is I know a lot of people wont even try this unless their life is so fucked they have no choice but to try new things. This information will literally change your dating life yet it sounds so unrelated on the surface. A big step in this process is learning how your body responds to different environments. You may feel calm at home. But a new social setting is scary. You have to feel what’s going on. We are so used to thinking and going in our heads that many of you will be incapable of even feeling your body much unless you deliberately practice this everyday. If you find yourself scanning for threats constantly in new environments then your nervous system is basically in a fucked up state. Fight or flight mode. You will need to spend a lot of time feeling into your body so you can discharge the energy that is stuck in you, keeping you in a high alert state. You might have a bunch of emotions that you need to feel. Tension in certain areas. A good starting point is just feeling what walking is like. Walking feels neutral or pleasant on your feet. Really tune into the walking feeling. It will ground you and make you more into your body. Finding people that can ground you is very helpful too. When you get all this down you will at least have a baseline to be more social. “Game” becomes way less important when you’re actually already feeling good and chill. You will literally just be able to walk up to a girl without being nervous.
>>34872412> If you find yourself scanning for threats constantly in new environments then your nervous system is basically in a fucked up state.Take your new age bullshit elsewhere.
Are weekend coffee dates pussy repellent? I have two coffee dates with Asian chicks this weekend because I have plans in the mid to late afternoon. So meeting them for coffee at like 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. on a Saturday or Sunday. I feel like these dates are pussy repellent. I don't plan to fuck them on the first date but going for a kiss in the sun in the middle of the day feels kinda cringe. Am I overreacting? I feel like I'm shooting myself in the foot by not waiting til later at night. But, Friday night and Saturday night I have plans with actual friends. Yeah, I wish my one friend would have the balls to tell his boss to fuck off so we can hangout in the daytime on Saturday, but that won't happen. And Sunday night, no one wants to do a Sunday night dinner date. So I'm really not sure what to do. Maybe it doesn't matter? What are you guys' experiences?
>>34863615does miss sweet Caroline come with the money or not?>>34864920>next time"next time" isn't a time, it's a signal to leave her on read or respond with k and move on and hope for the best>>34868186just try to invite her home, she knows the deal>>34869135>i don't want to fuck up the clubwho cares nigga, just don't be too aggressive about it>>34872735>going for a kiss in the sun in the middle of the day feels kinda cringethen take them to a park and make out in the shade?
>>348727357 pm is the earliest as far as dates go. Anything before that and it doesn't feel like a date. Best case scenario it's already dark outside when you meet
Met a girl that is 8 years younger than me, we had a good time watching a rodeo. None of us are particularly into that but i was there just out of curiosity so was she.Anyways long story short we end up talking the whole thing, laughed and got her number and the next day we got a chatShe wasnt quick to reply at first, she sent me an audio saying because she is too busy with school, pretty fair.I invited her to city event but she said she is busy [friday] gonna believe that for now but i havent. At the end we had a long chat until midnight we said goodbye. Havent text her back for two days and dont really feel i want to text her today either.But i want to see if I can take her to adinerada this weekend or next, if she comes up with being busy again im gonna drop it.Any advise?
It's the weekend and I'm alone at home.I was thinking that I could visit some local bars instead.At what time should I go and how do I spot places which are good for approaching people? Everything's so crowded in summer.
>>34872980Alright I'll try to get her to do Saturday night. Like 9:30 at some bar.
>>34868186>Is there a good way to do this without seeming like an asshole or ruining my chances?Just go for it faggot. You think she would care to hurt your feelings? Fuck her a few times and maybe you'll change your mind about her. With that kind of simp attitude you'd probably catch feels after fucking her anyway. No but seriously it's only the 2nd date just go for making out, fingering, sex, whatever you can. You don't owe her a relationship. You don't owe her complete honestly.
>This year, I really want to>Travel!
>>34863615Unironically bankmans wench id chase her around on Adderall and goose her funny ass
>>34873300Went out, checked out the 3 open bars nearby, all three are really just "bar themed restaurants" that serve alcohol if that make sense. The American sitcom-style bars with people waiting to be approached just does not exist around here in Rome. Sad!Got sloshed and checked the various bars around my place though, better than gooning all night.
>>34871767>the only unbreakable ruleever heard of bitches that fall in love with serial killers or "i can fix him" typeswomen are animals just like us and suspectible to attraction above all else just as much
>>348733059:30 pm is firmly in a hookup territory, you want an actual date, try 7-8 pm
>meet a girl from South Africa>we hit off>she messages me, wants to see me againIt's all fun and games but I'm afraid she'll tell me she doesn't do premarital sex
>22/m/usaquestion in the opposite direction ig but over the past two years i've had more attention from women and success w/ dating/casual sex than ever before, but i'm kind of getting tired of it?like, the more i interrogate my desire for a girlfriend, it's more a desire to not be pegged as a failed adult than it is a desire to foster a relationship. frankly, i don't really care about any of the women i've slept with beyond the level of "friend i'd text if i saw something relevant to a convo we had".like, i have two fwbs rn and i'm about to break things off with both of them because i really don't feel like entertaining them or going through the motions. now that i've been there/done that i realize dating (or even a committed relationship) is kind of useless for what i want to get out of life.i don't want the stress of wondering whether she's actually satisfied or not. i don't want to have to confront the feeling that she may be settling for me. with all this in mind, i'll probably be fine being single/unattached through my 20s at the very least.but having also lived the sexless bachelor life, i find that it's hard to find people who won't subtly pick up on your singleness and judge you for it. everyone seems to tie romantic wealth to intrinsic value, but can i avoid this?
Virgin here. I got invited to go to the bar with some friends tonight. Any tips on how to get laid?
>>34873896Shit. Well I already asked and 9:30 is the earleist I'd be able to meet her. If she says no should I offer Sunday coffee at noon or Sunday night dinner? ? I already have another date on Saturday plus another girl I've already been fucking so it's not a big deal.
>>34873919yeah. enjoy yourself and be comfortable in your own skin. otherwise you have absolutely ZERO chance.
>>34873925>be comfortable in your own skin. otherwise you have absolutely ZERO chance.
incel thread
>>34873919Focus on having fun. Don't be that guy who nervously oggles girls>>34873924Sundays aren't very good for dates for obvious reasons. Try Tuesday at the earliest
>>34873978>Don't be that guy who nervously oggles girlsDo people notice that?
What do you do on those 3 hour facetime calls with girls when your mind just blanks it's not like IRL where you can just point at random shit or whatever
how do I create a lifestyle that puts me near beautiful women for at least the majority of my day?Posting again for any new insights
>>34873939why arent you comfy in your own skin anon
>>34874061I started going to Kava bars because that's where under 21's go. Filled with hot beautiful young women and a way more chill vibe. People playing pool or video games sitting around and chatting. Easy to talk to people
>>34865889>ignore/walk with her, but I feel like if I get a negative/IoD from her, I should just walk away, no?
>>34874061fill your algorithm with beautiful women that *actually go outside*, not the ones that sexy dance in their bedroom.
>>34865512circumscion be like that, allow yourself time and space to "grieve". I mean it. You were ritually harmed at birth, grieve and feel that now. No one told you.
>>34871035disingenuous lying fags like you probly
>>34874071That's what I've been doing. Not really getting anywhere though. Most girls there have fucked a few of the alphas there already and huddle around him or them. If you keep coming you can meet the newbies that they bring in. Keep it up.I don't know if I fucked up yesterday night there, though:>girl I knew introduced me to her friend, she was hot but definitely trashy>She asked me about my book that I still had, it was such a perfect square>I tell her if she looks in the mirror she'll see the same square>she gets pissed and says "I just met you and you insult me??">I just laugh and say it made me laugh so that's enough>she's also kinda buzzed on kava, about to throw up, it was her first time>a nigger comes up and sits right next to her and make eye contact and skin contact immediately, they flirt fun, I realize I've just been seriously MOGGED>I start talking to the nigger aggressively until I get bored>see her again later that night, she's talking about how dating life sucks, they all want to fuck on the first date>I try to play around with her, reintroducing myself>make rebuttals, not so much that I want to woo her, but because she was flirting with a nigger in front of me>piss her off again and she says "do you even have friends?">just then, a girl friend came up behind me and said "ANON!!! HOWS IT GOING??" we hug>I eventually go back to the girl and she asks "who even are you?" I say "im just a guy">it fizzles out, she ignores me when I try talking to her again laterI didn't try to touch her or get close to her, I just didn't feel the warmth, I guess I need to force it more. I used to do that while travelling, but when it's in my hometown I'm very self conscious. Travelling I can get women more beautiful that her easily, but at home I just can't fuck like I do outside.
>>34874215Can I grow it back
>>34873908Fuck you fakecel, "I have two fwbs rn!" In the "how to get women" thread on 4chan, fuck you. It's like going into an alcoholics anonymous meetup and saying how great your life is. Fuck you
>>34874312never claimed celship. just wanted advice on how to have a relationship with dating i'm comfortable and healthy with, anon.>"I have two fwbs rn!"yeah, and they're ugly and the sex sucks it really is leftover from college sex fomo. since posting that i broke things off over the phone, then blocked one of them, if that makes you feel any better.i just want to move on from women.
Rate my tinder profile Name: GreenAge:28Height: 3 foot zero inches(an obvious lie)Bio: Looking for a femcel but not picky.If you think it's wrong if a person to offers a fat person a calisthenic exercise date, then you're probably not going to like me.
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>>34874405>>34874401You're trying to be an edgy tryhard because you're an online incel and you're scared that people won't accept you so you are doing this as a defense mechanism so you won't be hurt when you get rejected. It's so obvious
>>34874441Meh half true. Not an incel, but you're right I'm filtering like fuck the trash on those apps.
>>34874401>>34874405anon i...
>>34874449Hinge is pretty good as a online incel you probably have some good taste I've met a lot of interesting smart women on there. Just take it seriously try to be some what normal but show your interesting side and just swipe left on the bikini whores. You will meet someone good
>>34874466>>34874449I meant online autist on the second post not incel sorry
>>34874466I tried hinge because I heard from you all its like tinder and its the new standard but I get on there I have to put a detailed bio and prompts AND verification and all I get per day is like 5 not-so-local women to look though? Seems much more geared for longterm relations than casual flings. And yet even there the women are so high maintenance lavish lifestyles, for me to truly care about them.
>>34874466Oh I have one.
>>34874468No worries friend. >>34874475Yeah it's annoying. But it gives you free, regular chats you can send without having to fork over chase.
>>34874475Also I matched with a couple that seemed sort of promising, but after chatting a bit they ghosted, just like tinder.
>>34874494Yeah there's a whole lot of trash out there right now. Had this one girl who got upset because she thought I was bad mouthing her buzz cut.
>>34874475It's geared for long term relationships but women are women. I got two FWB from there if you just make it known from the start you don't want a long term you can still succeed. Tinder is ass filled with bots and whores who want rich guys. Bumble is completely dead. Hinge is the only place I've had actual good matches
>>34874500I've heard good things about facebook dating...but i don't have a facebook. Well I do, but it's not a good one, and I don't want it on my phone. And I heard the good things from a chad, so it might not actually be good it might just be wherever he goes he gets laid if he wants it.
>>34874514Me too but I'm not making a facebook. A Chad friend of mine says his best success was adding every girl that comes up on his quick add and if they like his stories then he starts chatting them up
>>34874514*on instagram
>>34874500I mean I don't say "here to fuck the hypergamy hivemind" but I barely have a bio there so if they're liking me its solely because the pics and I assume they want to hookup. Same with tinder. In fact I don't really trust any women I'd meet on these apps, I just want to test if I can. And if they do then I'll push it as far as it can go and if it turns real I guess I'd go with it.
>>34874519Yeah I don't even know where to get started on instagram. That's another way im incel, I barely have any social media know-how. I've done what you describe, on snapchat. Usually just leads to them pitching their onlyfans or hookers, but first they pretend to be real and send nudes for free.
>>34874525Dude just live your best life. Post a filter on your favorite dating apps. Then swipe maybe 3 times a day. Don't put a lot of weight into it. Go out and be the best you. If nothing happens that's fine. When you're rich and older, you can buy a test tube baby and a sex bot.
>>34874499I had to lookup what those logos are at the top but why are you on grindr if you're looking for women?
>>34874538I'm bi. I'm not an incel because I regularly pound beta bussy.
>>34874536>Post a filter on your favorite dating appssee I don't even know what this means that's how lost of socials i am. a fake-face filter like in snapchat?my best life is pre-internet...actually the very start of the internet. My first and most important love was online, but not like this. I didn't even know what she looked like at first, but thankfully she was a cute girl and not an old pdf.>when you're rich and olderI'm never gonna financially recover and I'm probably going to die in a few years in the gulag with the rest of the exiles. Even if I had the money I wouldn't want a sexbot I want a real woman I love.
>>34874532Yeah the Instagram only works when you have a lot of friends because you can quick add random people who are real and normal
So...how do I speak to girls without using the dating or fuck apps? Not only have I refused to use them for years but I know they're not good any more.
>>34874562you just strike up a conversation in public. girl at the store, girl at the bus stop or train station, social clubs, parties.
>>34874554>see I don't even know what this meansIt means post something to keep the trash from swiping right on your profile. Something to give the real ones a piece of what the real you is. >my best life is pre-internetNo one is stopping you from dropping the phone retard. >I'm never gonna financially recoverIf that's true maybe try to go on Caleb Hammer's show to get your money life in order. If it's because you have a shit career then get a better one.>Even if I had the money I wouldn't want a sexbot I want a real woman I love.Just because I want a good woman doesn't mean I can get one either. Adapt and survive, or become a suicide statistic. Your choice.
>>34874570How can you do that without being some creep though?
>>34874583by being comfortable in your own skin. get your dopamine hit somewhere before you go.
Where are good places to naturally meet women that aren't bars? I have an involved remote job and my mornings are usually busy with the gym.I usually work on my laptop at coffee shops during the day but I rarely if ever see someone around my age (26). I'm pretty social but all my interactions right now are with guys in their 60s showing off their cars so I need to get more reps in with women.
>>34874617Walks, parks, grocery stores, anywhere there's single women who aren't too busy.
>>34874574>then get a better one.oh ok let me just redivert my hundreds of applications toward a completely different field, go back to school to learn something new again aaaaaaand its gone.>>34874574>No one is stopping you from dropping the phone retard.yeah just stop being a part of the rest of society that uses their phone even if you don't, easy.>or become a suicide statistic.see that's the hardest part. I have no place in this world anymore but I can never suicide. Most like me probably already have, but I'm held back from it. The World'll just have to take me out when the time comes.
>>34874690>oh ok let me just redivert my hundreds of applications toward a completely different field, go back to school to learn something new again aaaaaaand its gone.The military is a good way to get a headstart in a new field free of charge. >yeah just stop being a part of the rest of society that uses their phone even if you don't, easy.Or just use it for work only dumbass. What are you retarded and have no impulsive control?
>>34874583Be enthusiastic about the topic youre talkong about
>>34874720I am 36 and even if I were younger and jacked I'd rather join ICE than the military. And the phone is not that I just can't not use the phone/socials, it's that everyone else is. In fact this is the same thing that happened when social media first started. I thought I'd stay off it and my friends would just hit me up whenever they wanted to do something. But no, everyone lives on lifelog now and I got mostly forgotten whenever they kept in touch through that. But I guess its fine, they all ended up turning into commies and troons anyway.
>>34874583be attractive and if you're worried about being a creep then you can't be onebecause creeps don't care about being creeps and aren't aware of the discomfort they're causingyou would be
>>34874757>rather join ICEThen join them. They all raised the age of enlistment recently. >that everyone else is.Not true. Only the majority are. There's plenty of people who don't though. Go outside and make irl hiking friends or something. There's plenty of irl public hobbies you can find on people doing you can befriend. The only thing that is really dead and gone is men only spaces.
>>34874583Rule 1 and 2
>>34871090what I'm hearing here is "stop being good, stop caring about people as people. accept satan and satan will reward you in this world with all his tatted pierced drug-addicted whores and help you corrupt the other good and carry on generations for him"
>>34874807He's not accepting Satan. He's just accepting the meta of the dating market currently. It's full of trash that wants to be treated like trash. There's nothing wrong with accepting reality, or getting your rocks off using it.
>>34874822Fooling people into believing what they're doing is okay is Satan's specialty
>>34874822>It's full of trash that wants to be treated like trashYes, and that's satanic. How's he plan to have "fun" with them? The more satanic you are the more reward you get. These whores are here to enforce that you become that. Being good gives them the ick, and is boring. So first off, pop open the dating app with the illuminati logo, all owned and controlled by the same company. You get to choose between the flame from hell or the freemason symbols. Meet a hot (hell) whore after lying about your life, or just being a bad chad for real. Get on their drugs so that you're easier to control and more accepting of everything else they're going to put you through. Don't even think about it it's all just fun. Now lets go to a club or bar and grind against eachother to horrible deafening beats that if it's not specifically repeating a fuck kill and money mantra it's promoting that there is only one life and hedonism is all that matters and you better do everything you can now to have fun you are just a soulless animal after all. Now let's go watch some satanic woke shows and movies and maybe go to a ritual concert run by satanists. If it all goes well at the end we can fuck like we hate eachother, choke her slap her whip her turn her inside out, she'll be screaming to God but there is no god there, and if you get her pregnant she'll just kill it with no cares. Pregnancy is now a "breeding fetish."And later you both go fuck some more bitches and chads, rack em up. Why not, love isn't real, can't have soulmates without a soul, and no point in loyalty none of this was serious it was all just fun. But don't forget to stay in touch on the latest social media that rewards, encourages, and promotes your sins to others. Maybe some other night one of them will be drunk and craving enough to use your body again instead of her toy. And it goes without saying you both got the covid shot right?
How do you get a GILF? And I do mean at least 20 years older than me (as a 35 year old). Is it harder than getting a young gf? I am physically attractive but I don't have a job right now. So I would also need one that doesn't expect me to have a job right from the beginning. Are they more demanding than younger women? I would appreciate any experience you have
>>34874886Is Satan in the room with us right now? Fucking 16 year olds, get off 4chanI'm going to fuck any woman who will let my dick close to her
>>34874959Yes, outside and ever since 2021 inside you and most people. Absolutely on 4chan. If I think about it the first place I ever learned you're supposed to act like this to get laid, was 4chan, back in the early 00s.
has anyone here stopped their obsession with stacies and focus more on women around you? how did you do it?
I wish this thread was old fashioned. In the olden days, you wouldn't give advice, you would just talk about the last chick you fucked and say how you got her, because of hoeflation people only post as a humblebrag, it's way different these days. In the past you'd say *how* you got her, but dudes are too ego mode with no aura or game so they say stuff like "she manifested idk i guess im just superior" with no actual logic, works for looksmaxxers maybe, but I'm mostly getting pussy with rizz and good dental.
>>34874405awful haircut bad lighting bad picture overallshitty bio>>34874401bad lighting, bad pose, and you might as well trim your shitty chest hairEverything about this is a clear swipe leftBetter grooming and better pics will do the trick, preferably wear something smart like a collared shirt or something.Keep the bio simple and don't include perma online vocab into it
>>34873837>around here in RomeAre there not places where people hangout and drink on the street there, either like casual outside bars or just places where people grab beers from the shops and hangout? I know that's how it works in a lot of European cities, especially in summer, and those places are easy to meet people>>34874057>those 3 hour facetime calls with girlsI simply don't have those because my time is too valuable and your girl needs to understand that or she won't respect you>>34874617>busy with the gymI find the gym one of the easiest places to talk to people since you naturally need to have conversations to share equipment. Also, try different coffee shops until you find one with a good vibe and women
>>34875050I would take practically any woman and it's still not happening
I'm nervousI have a date tomorrow with a girl I met on an app but I can't really see her face in her pics.
>>34875232If she's ugly you'll just go home after 30 minutes
>>34875232>I can't really see her face in her picsthis is a shit test and you already failed
>>34875144why not? are you even trying? when was the last time you asked out a girl
>>34863611This is should a retarded question but I've always struggled with this one: where the fuck do I actually put my hand when I have my arm around the back of a girl? I have lanky arms so my hand has always just kind of flopped off the shoulder not grabbing anything
is there anyone here who after being single his entire life finally got a gf or wife in late 20s or 30s? do you think your lost time had any impact on you? how did ur gf react when u told her?
>>34875447yeah we met randomly. impact sure, time is precious and it sucks knowing you were alone during your best years instead of fucking and forming memories with your soulmate.she reacted surprised because I seemed experienced and put together, and empathic. she just hugs me when I cry and gives me an understanding smile and a few love nibbles on my neck and whispers cheerful things in my ears.[spoiler] sike I made allat up, the rejection fear way too intense [/spoiler]
>>34875454i am not scared of rejection. i got rejected by a girl i had a crush on, it hurt like a mf, cried myself to sleep that night. what i am scared of is that i dont know a single guy who was like me who turned his dating life around, got married or had kids. most people who get married were in relationships from college or highschool. and those who weren't still fucked around, racked up 10,20 bodies had their fun basically. i had neither . literally the worst case scenario
Talk me out of buying some time with a whoreNo sex is making me crazy
I'm taking this girl out on a day long date of a specific activity, then she mentioned an art show near by that she wants to go to, I said sure, then I realized we have to reserve in advance and saw the prices and I don't really want to pay for that, if she paid for it I'd go though, or at least let me pay for my ticket and you pay for your ticket.How do I bring this up? I realize I might sound spineless but trust me I came a long way. Last year I would have paid for the whole thing no questions asked. This experience will help me make the decision faster next time I come across something like this.
>>34874886Dude it's not satanic to do what you must to thrive and survive. >>34874922Too long didn't read. >>34874932They're easier to cold approach than modern women. Find a retirement home or something. >>34875112Lmao good. I was going for that. >>34875577Bussy is free if you get a Grindr.
>>34869848>Only women pick the partner because of money.and how is she going to pay for herself when she's got no money, huh? how are you going to 50/50 with a brokie?fucking idiot
>>34875467if you think you cant do it because noone else has done it before, just be the first one.
brosIs finding a wife our ultimate purpose in this life?because I'm lost
>>34875756Your ultimate purpose is what you choose it to be.
>>34872133Girls just want to have fun, anon. That’s the only rule. The only thing 0 girls on earth are into is boredom. You bore a girl it’s over.
>>34874057End it after an hour.
>>34870893So I decided to test the waters by first giving her oral from behind. I had her on the edge of the bed while I knelt on the floor. It was really easy actually. She came in just a couple of minutes, pushing herself against my head. It was a new experience having my eyes only an inch from an asshole and staring at it for that long. I’ll do it again next time and lightly brush her taint, then go for the rim if she receives it well.
>>34865637It depends. If you're a decent looking and socially adjusted person despite being shy, you shouldn't worry because you have the ingredients for eventually achieving something.>>34865512Congrats.>>34865732This. When I was a teenager this didn't apply because if she likes you she'll hit directly on you, but from 18yo onwards, the attention they receive is so high that she finding you attractive isn't enough. >>34869826This.>>34874617I can think of gyms and supermarkets as places where you can casually strike conversations, but if you have a dog, that's by far the best thing IMO during your walks. Dogs are rhe ultimate wingpals.>>34875756>Is finding a wife our ultimate purpose in this life? No, being happy is.
>>34874215>>34874300That’s a 4chan myth. Circumcision has no effect no sexual pleasure.>>34865512Are you on meds?
>>34875128>Are there not places where people hangout and drink on the street thereKinda? But it's group of friends or couples, I can't really wedge myself in there
>>34875756gee have some self respect slam piggy
>>34864920>>34865732>>34865830>>34865838>>34871191You cant approach or message women anymore as a non chad. At best they will reject you by acting completely uninterested or do something like this >>34865853 or tell you she has a boyfriend oh and then comes the risk that she will tell everyone how much of a creepy weirdo you are. If you do this at the gym, school, or at work, the chances of you getting in trouble with the HR, Dean, or whatever is frighteningly high. You cannot approach women and talk to them anymore in this post covid, dating app, feminanzi, individualist world. They dont want to talk to non chads. >b-but clubs! Dating apps! Bars!On dating apps, its 20 guys for every girl and even worse outside larger cities and the girls are all mentally ill single mom whores with 3 nigger babies looking for someone to provide for her. At the bars and clubs women autistically stick to their huge group or their boyfriend and they certainly dont want random non chad guys approaching them.>hobbies!Just like the other scenarios, no women wants random guys to try to flirt with them while doing their hobbies. This gay advice of trying to pick up bitches at the salsa dancing class does not work.Anytime you get a girls number or social media 9/10 times she will just ghost you because she was too scared to reject you IRL Stop coping and denying the truth that for the vast majority of men, dating is completely hopeless and impossible
>>34875599Just be honest, if she doesn't like it then you dodged a gold digger. Best case scenario you come more autentic and def not as a simp
Okay people, I made a whoopsie and forgot the Instagram name of a girl, but felt pretty nice asking her number and got her instaNow I have another girl I asked her if she was free this weekend, it was pretty late at night.So her reply is was somewhere along the lines "maybe next weekend, today I have to go out with a friend and Sunday I'm busy with uni work"Its the second time asked her and both said she was busy, im gonna give the benefit of the doubt since university can be a lot of work.Gonna ask her out for the next week to a cafe or modest restaurant, any advice here?
>>34876167>maybe next weekend>Its the second time asked her>Gonna ask her out for the next weekyeah, you're heading straight to ghost town
>>34876194Good advice, if she doesn't say more I won't ask her XD.I did all I should have time to move on. I'm still salty I forgot the insta of the other girl lmao
>>34876046>Are you on meds?No but I started vaping
>>34876152How do I say it tho? Just be blunt? Tell her since you suggested it you pay for it or how do I phrase it?
>>34875756You should respect yourself enough to understand your likes and dislikes at least, then see if finding a wife aligns or if you need to peel back your inner resistances to find your true want in life
>>34876318>she mentioned an art show near by that she wants to go to, I said sureDid you agree you wanted to go with her, or agree you'd buy the tickets? I wouldn't try to make her pay for both of you, just be calm and honest that you didn't know how much it was and ask her to split the cost. Also, how much is it? And is this girl a princess or a reasonable person?
>7 matches in one day. >0 matches for the next two month.The Lord giveth, and the Lord taketh away
>>34876405I agreed that we can go after my thing which I'm already paying for.I think she is a reasonable person, I met her not too long ago and we talked about stuff and I mentioned this thing im going to and she said she'd love to go to it so I invited her to go with me.I think I'll just send another text saying I'm not familiar with this show so I looked into it and it seems we have to reserve tickets, I suggest splitting the cost on this one
>>34876409IndeedI've been doing one cold approach every other day and every time after I've been crying and yelling in my car. Got flaked on 5 times last month, one of them asked ME out. Last year I had two beautiful girlfriends.
>>34876122one of the guys you quoted here, you're a faggotDon't give up niggers.
>>34877161I stopped trying cold approach it's just too difficult too much anxiety compared to just sitting at home and waiting for a match that you know actually likes you.
Women want you to be tough.
>>34873973Takes one to know one.
>>34876122You keep saying it'll never happen it'll never happen anon. Have you tried believing in yourself when the times get rough instead of running away from it?
A single mother 15 years my senior with zero face or body photos who lives in a different city liked me on tinder.Should I like her back? I'm getting seriously desperate since I haven't managed to get a single date in all these years. I'm scared my parents won't approve of her, but I mean at least she's a biological woman, and who am I to be picky?
>>34877386namefag
>>34877460You're going at all this wrong. You need to make friends with women and find the right friend to like you for you. Apart from that Tinder has Chads all over the place, you ain't gonna get much from there. Try a more unpopular dating site and get to know a dorky woman from there. In fact get to know more women. You ain't gonna do much if you just bitch and whine at the world and then call everyone who tells you try a bit more a moron and then refuse whatever possible blessing there is for you to do something your life as mentally insane. Anon, I hate to say this, but your sanity is fucking insane. You being sane all the time is going to lead to depression and misery if you keep doing what is sane. You know what is sane? A white room with nothing in it and a chair to sit in it staring at everything, that is perfectly sane anon.
>>34877506Hahahahahahahahaha!
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>>34877508So your advice is basically niche online dating services and friends.>niche online datingI tried several different apps and I always run out of people in my area quickly. I had some success on one of these apps, but my only two likes were: a woman from another country, a woman living in the same city that I matched with that sadly was way too fucking lifestyle-incompatible and I told her it's not gonna work out after a few days of chatting.>make friendsI still don't know how. While adults are more polite than teens, things are pretty much the same as in high school. People avoid me and don't want to hang out with me.
>>34877560Stop replying to the autistic schizo who has never had a girlfriend. That is not the way to get laid.
>>34877560Anon reality is not like dialogue options in a role playing video game. You have to learn by throwing yourself out there what works and what doesn't. If it was easy then everybody wouldn't do it. And that is what most people do they go huddle up in a corner at a bar act all deep and serious when they can't get a girl to like them and then bitch about it the next day. You want to stand apart from that by being this guy who isn't afraid of himself.
>>34877571Did you read the paragraph above the statement below?
>>34863611>https://www.fantasticanachronism.com/p/how-to-be-good-at-datingNonsensical AI written article. So what, you guys are just pushing snakeoil PUA course bait blogposts?
>AI-writtenmindbroken
>>34877460>zero face or body photos who lives in a different city liked me on tinder>I'm scared my parents won't approve of her,Just how desperate are you anon? You know that even if you match, it'll likely go nowhere?
reminder that if you've been bullied, it was with the approval and (at least passive) encouragement of girls in your environment. they could have stamped that shit out in a second, but instead they were rewarding your bullies with sexthey just couldn't help it tee hee
>>34877916So what your saying is that we oughta go for hags or younger girls. Gotcha.
>>34863640Thank you, I appreciate you putting this together.
>>34863640Have Dr K's videos helped anyone?I think they changed my life for the better in the sense that they helped me get into introspection in general, you know the "sometimes your brain thinks unhelpful thoughts and you need to learn to analyze your own mind." kind of deal.But when it comes to the actual lessons in the videos it feels like a whole lot of nothing.>"Bro you need a competing interest to quit your bad habits/addictions" Alright cool but I don't have one besides craving companionship>"Bro you can't just chase women you need to work on yourself first."The other day I saw a homeless couple sleeping in the street. Women get in all sorts of trainwreck relationship, what's wrong with just some guy with a job and an apartment? >"Bro it's all in the confidence and the attitude and you must signal that you're in a good place."I can talk to random girls, make them laugh, get their number and they'll just ghost me. I'm not blackpilled because with hindsight there have been girls who liked me back when I was a teen so I know that I'm not excessively ugly or weird. But now that I've moved for work and don't know anyone here, I need a way to rebuild a social sphere from zero and idk how to do it.Every dating advice video is like >"So you walk into a party and you act like a total GAY SPERG, here's 10 tips to be less GAY and less SPERGY">"Number 1, don't maintain ceaseless eye contact! Number 2, do some conversation! Number 3, loosen up!"But that's the easy part, you can just practice talking to people even if you are an actual gay sperg, but how the fuck do you get into social situations in the first place unless you know a guy that knows a guy?
>>34878405All he does is put the blame on the guy even in things outside of your control I stopped listening to him a while ago
>>34878405>rebuild a social sphereI think this needs to be talked about more in the context of dating. We like to focus on not finding a partner but I'd wager that a very significant amount of us in this boat also struggle to find friends at all.
>>34878417accountability is a real thingsome of his explanations make sense and he has some good insights on mental illness.but I agree that I shut off too when the idea that everything is purely my fault gets shoved down my throat. didnt get that impression from the few vids of him i saw tho
>>34878461The one advice I've gotten over and over and haven't tried yet is joining dance or cooking classes and being social with my classmates.I'm hesitant because if things don't work out now I'm paying for a course that I am not necessarily super interested in and my job already leaves me with not so much free time.
>>34877916another example of god punishing the deserving and favoring the undeserving
How to turn the conversation sexual?I went on a date today with a girl that is a bit of a hoe, she's a heavy drinker and a pothead. But she is somewhat boring, and we did talk about a lot of different things, even sex - she had this pseudo opinion how sex is just unimportant etc, but I couldn't turn it into something that would arouse her. The whole conversation just felt monotonous.And even when I tried talking about sex, I talked about this one time I had sex in public, i felt like she just disregarded it.
>>34877771>100 swipes 1 match 0.1 dates 0.05 lays 0.005 meaningful connectionsJesus christ, this makes me feel like gigachad himself with my 40% or so matches per swipe and getting rapport with about 70% of those.
>>34878672try saying "so, uhhhh.. do you like sexual intercourse?" that should do the trick
>>34877771>>34878680>and I highly recommend asking for consent first: "is it alright if I kiss you?"Do you guys do this? I’ve only done it once, with an obviously extremely conservative girl. Other than that I just go for it. Only been turned away twice and those were in my more awkward years. I probably wouldn’t have tried in those situations today.
>>34878680You're joking, right? I live in a large city with a lot of young people and I only save my swipes on ugly women, people said my profile is perfectly fine, and my recent match rate is 0% for the last couple of months. Something like 1 per 2000 for all my time on the apps. I knew this general is a Chad hangout and I shouldn't be here, but I keep coming back. Fuck.
>>34878782No. I’m not a chad, I’ve just looksmaxxed. You have looksmaxxed haven’t you?
>>34878786Beyond getting rid of my acne, no. Gym didn't change anything and I don't wanna roid.
>>34878799If you haven't looksmaxxed, you're not doing /htgwg/ properly, and you have no basis to complain about your results.
>>34878812I don't think there's much to improve. I'm already slim, muscles wouldn't add much. I would need plastic surgeries to unfuck my face.
>>34878775>Do you guys do this?lol, fuck no, i barely ask for consent before sticking it in them
>>34878819What’s your skincare routine?
>>34878826Non-acidic cleanser > moisturizer in the morning and before bed. Sunscreen before leaving.
>>34878828No tret?
>>34878848I've been taking accutane for a year. My face has been clear for months. The issue is not skin, but my rather ugly mug.
>>34878859ah i took acctuane too. shit works, but the side-effects messed up my stomach when i got off it
>>34878859What are your current squat, deadlift, bench and OHP?
>>34878895nta but the best stat for aesthetics is the number of pullups you can do