cant she be actually mentally insane? and fi so shouldnt she intituationalized instead?i dont understand the notion of (oh someone did that then they deserve this) even if a man went on and attacked his kids because of a mental or wtv problem and he was deemed insane and unfit for societal existence then just be institutionalised or wtv
she was on 13 medications too in 4 month period, its not like she was actually sane but she had hope of getting better (seeing therapists and psychologists)
insanity isn't a real defense>oh hey i did some crazy evil shit i'm insaneyeah no shitstill a crime
Pretty sure mental institutions are WAY worse than regular prison. Not sure why this is even a defense. You are basically going to double prison instead of regular prison with ramen noodles and cigarettes and basketball.
>>34864627Not a free pass for murder. If you're a nut job, you go to nut job jail
I'm going to kill some foids now. I'm mentally ill. I expect a positive hashtag, a line of people outside the courthouse for my trial, and 1 million dollars CASH. Anyone that says I don't deserve it clearly doesn't understand what I have to go through.
>>34864897speak your truth king. Its societies job to make you be happy and mentally in a good place at all times. Nothing is your responsibility
>>34864775Wouldn't the alternative for her be the chair? Also, I know OP's pic is an edit, but it still deeply unsettles me for some reason.
>>34864627Still a crime and she is a danger to society, she killed 3 kids, she will kill again if possible
>>34864627i already hate women, i hate this woman even more because women are supposed to protect their kids, not kill them. i had a professor in college, a 20s skinny tall blonde, whose college thesis was on infanticide during the great depression. i immediately knew she was crazy and did the bare minimum for her before she got replaced.
>>34864914>>34864897You're going to get caught.
>>34864862This.>well it’s everyone else’s fault but hersYeah crazy people exist as crazy every day without murdering children. Many of those crazy people are parents and, while shitty parents, still don’t fucking murder those kids. Seeing women make so many excuses for literal murder is disgusting.
>>34864633>go around to different doctors in search of pills>women make excuses for you because you are also a womanWow shocking
>>34864627Because she killed her kids, now the question is was she responsible for her actions or did it happen because of her mental illness. It's true that she was on bunch of pills and there is evidence that she was having symptoms of mental illness, but she killed the kids after her husband went to get food and medication, she did lock the door before cutting her wrists and jumping out if the window. And to me that seems like she was sane enough to make some plans and to execute them. And the bunch of loud crazy woman screeching about her doesn't really help. Lastly how is this an adv post, fuck off OP this board is for one bunch of idiots to give advice, that won't be followed through, to another bunch of idiots.
Elliot Roger was mentally ill, and had lack of sex psychosis.
>>34864627She knew what she was doing. Throw her in prison.
She's 100% guilty no question. Even the witness early this week basically said she had "convenient psychosis" and had never heard the voice before the day of the murders and then she heard it and 18 minutes later killed them? Ffs people this was altruistic filicide and a botched suicide. I do suspect the husband was an ass, doesnt make him guilty - just probably a shitty husband. People are grasping at this theory he did it but if there was even a remote possibility her defense team would use that.She was a sad stay at home mom anxious about going back to work. Husband says no worries, no work for you. Then she just goes about her life as normal, takes daughter to a doctor appointment and then kills them?This story is sad as fuck but how is this any different from other filicide cases. The online true crime community seems pretty silent when it comes to comparing her to other horrible women who killed their kids. What makes Lindsay special? And now 2 million cash (Patrick has 1 mil and the Musgroves have 1)I hate people, especially these lemmings flying off the cliff for this witch.
The insanity defense shouldn’t even exist. Schizos aren’t above the law
ive had psychosis plus voicehearing. the idea that i would kill 3 relatives over hearing some bullshit voices is quite frankly absurd. maybe there are deeper layers to it than i experienced but i maintain this woman must have harbored some sort of visceral hatred against her children for a long time.
>>34866832plus, my biggest question in all this: why the fuck would you bear a third child if with your previous two children youve already experienced severe postpartum depression? that seems like lunacy on part of both the father and the mother. these people are retards no matter the legal outcome.
>>34864698how come?if im too insane to know right from wrong?being on 13 different medications is just a recipe for disaster many of them were extreme ones from what i remember
>>34864897okay? do it?i mean you dont see me restraining you, im actually looking forward to itpost details
>>34864958>Still a crime and she is a danger to society,well yeah ofc she is, but just attacking her and generalizing this about all women?many insane men go on killing sprees and they dont get discriminated against because of their genderall im asking is to stop calling her a "murder", it hasnt been declared yet nor the judge decided anythingcalling her a murder waters down the effect of the word when used against actual murders not some loony girl that was too retarded and drug raped by 13 psychotropics
>>34866852She knew right from wrong.>she killed the kids after her husband went to get food and medication>she did lock the door before cutting her wrists and jumping out if the windowThese things indicate she knew what she was doing because she was planning for what might happen next. Insanity defense doesn’t work if you’re obviously aware of consequences or things which might obstruct your ability to commit your crime the way you want
>>34866867Yep the fact she tried to commit suicide after what she done tells me shes guilty. People don't excuse school shooters after they fail to kill themselves, why should she get one? Because shes a woman that can't handle women problems?
>>34866869Honestly, using “mental illness” and her obvious doctor shopping as an excuse for murder does more damage to the mental health shit than it helps anything. Imagine being just an autistic schizo and now you’re associated with murderers because women can’t handle the idea of a guilty women, even if they don’t know her.
>>34865645do you have ropes in your home?>>34866164>Elliot Roger was mentally ill, and had lack of sex psychosis.LMAO well er was out to hurt others he didnt attempt to get better nor retrain himself he was highly intelligent and understood right from wrong, and wanted to harm people for the sake of it, on the other hand LC was on multiple drugs sought medical help, felt bad, and there was a narrative that she killed them to make them feel better or to go to a better placesame action can be done by two different people WITH different reasoninga cat was hit by a toddler/adultjust from those 7 words, you can presume the adult had ill intent, and im not saying women are retards/childrenbut some people are actually incapable of understanding or reasoning, calling anyone a murder is just bad rap to actual murders with ill intent
>>34866838cause she was retarded, that actually helps her case she couldnt plan ahead even with having something as big as bearing a child
>>34864775I've worked in one such institution, and I had to deal with people who had committed violent crimes during psychotic episodes. This isn't about defending them, it's about recognising that in a lot of cases they don't actually have any control or even awareness over what they did.
>>34866869WOAH school shooters and lindsey clancy?do you not see the difference, bullied teens with resentment and anger out to INTENTIONALLY HARM otheron the other hand, A stupid mom who couldnt plan ahead, had to leave her job went to the emergency because she had insomnia, sought multiple psychologist, got on meds for 4 months and didnt like having those thoughts about harming her children?are you actually serious? cant you not tell the difference between a mom killing her children, and some teens getting revenge or even with school mates
>>34866893>This isn't about defending them, it's about recognising that in a lot of cases they don't actually have any control or even awareness over what they did.ntathanks
>>34866895You’re making a lot of favorable assumptions about her. I could just as easily say she was taking revenge for not having the life she wanted by committing murder.
>>34864698It also doesn't get you out of anything, considering that Forensic Psychiatry is about ten times worse than the worst prison imagineable, and theres not even a fixed sentence.Frankly I'd immediately fire any lawyer who suggested an insanity defense, it looks good for them but the defendant will end up eating literal human shit for it.
She’ll get life and then we’ll get juicy pictures of pussy hat bitches crying to make memes out of. Is what it is.
>>34866903The reason so many defend the insanity defense without even understanding it is because they reserve that for themselves if they want to use it later on. They are truly bad people.
>>34866901you are the one making assumptionsif it was all about revenge why would she seek psychologists to begin withsomeone with the "revenge" mindset dont usually feel bad about having those thoughts
>>34866910Because she wanted pills, retard.
>>34866910It is called drug seeking behavior, my friend. She didn’t get thirteen different pills from one doctor. That’s not how things work.
>>34866919ah yes armchair psychologist, my favouritehave you even read the case? are you just blindly hating on women? are you 17?
>>34866895They both commit murder though and you're trying to justify it because she took some meds and shit? Dude it takes work to fucking hang a child, it takes time and EFFORT which she could of stopped anytime but choose not too. The comparison may seem insane but both are people who tried to escape their crimes instead of coming clean and surrendering
>>34866520Isn't the insanity place shit anyways? It's not like a paradise where they get treated good? I know the workers and nurses are mean old black ladies that treat em like shit lol
>>34864627>why do men attack lindsey?Because she's a woman. Anything a woman does is worthy of attack. Anything a woman says is worthy of attack. Women get attacked just because they are women. Our society is fundamentally misogynistic.
Should there be a /trucrime/ board?
>>34866927For a woman, it’s very impressive that you are such an unbelievable fucking faggot. You should be proud of your time defending ratcunt murderers online. That way it won’t be your fault when you snap and do the same shit. You’re disgusting top to bottom. You’re so full of shit that your eyes are brown.
>>34867072Uhhh no, murdering your children and trying to get off on “muh mental illness” is worthy of attack.If you shitfaces stopped making this murderer the hill you want to die on, it would probably fucking end immediately :)
>>34867072>I can’t believe you guys are attacking this poor innocent child murdererTruly, can women fall ANY farther?
>>34867029This shit is genuinely ridiculous. Does she have a dedicated online defense force?If a man raped a child, I wouldn’t care what meds he was on or about anything that went through his head. He should get the rope in my opinion.Rape is a lesser crime than murder.Why should this woman be spared the rope for a greater crime?>uhhhhh fuckin’ uhhh woman?
>>34864698The reality of mental illness sentences is that you get put away in a place that will hopefully treat you, and you're not getting out until a whole bunch of people sign off on the fact that you're no longer a danger to anyone, which means you may be in there for the rest of your life. It's not a "defence," it's just a specific type of sentence.
>>34867367She killed multiple kids on purpose with evident planning.You are insane>O Lord make my enemies ridiculous
The PPD excuse was a master-class in setting feminist discourse back a century. If you can't be trusted not to kill your children because your hormones told you to, why the hell should you be trusted with any relevant position of power?
>>34867370I didn't say anything about any specific person, retard, take your meds
>>34867540PPP (not PPD) is like a 1 in 1000 phenomenon, and has only resulted in death in a handful of extreme cases of medical neglect
>>34864627One of the most common cop-outs psychopaths use when they get busted is the "I have voices in my head" excuse. The dumb cunts defending her should know this for all their obsessions with serial killers, most interviews with killers feature that excuse a lot. Lindsay Clancy used that exact same tired excuse.And the only reason the dumb holes who support her ate it up is because Lindsay tied it to her pregnancy blues, post partum psychosis. Which is an insult to actual mothers who have gone through PPD because she has lied about the symptoms she claimed to have had, which a psychological examiner has already pointed out today. PPD lasts 12 weeks. Her last kid was 8 months old, meaning she claims she had it for 5 months longer than average, which is suspicious. She claims she heard a voice command her to kill the kids. None of her therapists or psychologists or anyone she has ever confided in recall her mentioning voices. She claims she heard it just once. Psychosis does not feature a 'one time only' delusion or hallucination, she lied about it.What she most likely is, is a cunt with Histrionic or Borderline Personality mixed in with some Psychopathic traits. The most likely psychological profile is she had the delusion that she should kill her children "out of love" to spare them the pain of her suicide. Which is a common delusion some type of psychopaths have particularly if they are high in narcissism. She is an evil cunt and when she goes to prison every hole who defended her should kindly go get their tubes tied so they can't procreate or put a child in danger themselves.
>>34867873And the best partEven if she did hear an audible voice during a psychotic break, free will and agency does not disappear. Anyone who has had psychosis episodes can swear to this, I can swear to it too. Your free will doesn't vanish during auditory hallucination, you are free to either listen to the voice and ruminate on it or ignore it. When you listen to a voice you are typically gripped in fear and spend the entire day in a spiral, unable to get out of bed let alone go into a basement and get busy on killing three children. She is full of shit. And the only thing this court case has shown is how pitifully ignorant the general public are if both post partum pregnancy and mental health issues.
>>34867329>Truly, can women fall ANY farther?They can Three women in the court room laughing or smirking when the details of the murders were read aloud. The one in green is from the popular woman's magazine, Vanity Fair.
>>34867873Didn't she tell her husband "I have thoughts of harming the children" and ask him to keep them safe or something? Why would she do that if she was mentally in control? You could argue that she just wanted to give everyone a scare, but it's hard to reconcile that with the image of a lying, emotionless psychopath.
>>34867923Psychopathy is commonly misunderstood, this isn't like classical stone hearted sociopathy. Psychopathy is different, what psychopathy by itself as a trait fundamentally is, it's someone who cannot give a single fuck about long term consequences that their short term whims create. They will always jump to the short term goal at the expense of others or themselves, with shallow empathy to boot. They still possess some empathy and one of the most common behaviours of psychopaths is they always tell on themselves, very often. They do this because they gain a thrill from being seen and take satisfaction from assuming the person they tell is not smart enough to catch them or find them out or figure out they have psychopathy. They mask off and tell someone to their face what they intend through indirect hinting to see if that person is bold enough to do something. It's a power play, and Lindsay would be a female psychopath and the way female psychopaths operate in that power play is they don't act cocky or assertive with vague threats, they play heavily into the damsel/victim plea. Whether they will formally diagnose her as such who the fuck knows. Point is, Psychopaths aren't simply emotionless liars, they possess shallow emotions and they don't lie, they do something worse, they tell half-truths strategically for short term thrills
>>34867947Last post and my final thoughts in the matter.The reason why this case in particular has struck a nerve and successfully created tension between the sexes among the online sphere is because it plays on gendered compulsions.>Men are wired for detecting threats. Alarm signals fire off and their protective urges fire on all cylinders, especially if it's about defending children. Three kids got brutally killed, the father lost his children and his wife turned out to be a psycho. A man's worst nightmare, the failure to defend his young.>Women are wired for self preservation especially during intense moments of vulnerability, and nothing is more vulnerable and emotive than pregnancy, child birth, and the deep fear of being ostracized or abandoned for being imperfect.Post partum psychosis is almost every woman's fear because women fear not only killing their young (not that they commonly do, it's insanely rare, they fear it due to the high profile media cases). But they intensely fear other people presuming their guilt just for suffering through post partum anything. It implies possible abandonment and ostracisation at a time of extreme vulnerability.Pit these two voices against the other in an online space and you get a shit show. The men cannot believe their ears, women are sympathizing with Lindsay because PPD? The women cannot believe their ears either, Men are choosing to ignore the harsh fears women may endure delivering his children? After all that sacrifice she is suspected to be a villain for things outside of her control like hormonal crashing and post partum mental illness? Both of them miss the fact that Lindsay is simply an evil cunt, case closed.
>>34864627By this reasoning, everyone who commits murder is insane and should be let off. Look at her man, she's a wacko bitch. I've never even met her but I can tell by just looking at her she's a psycho. She murdered her kids cos she is a responsibility dodging scumbag. And this insanity defence is more of that.
>>34868032Your explanation does make some sense. However, I think her many doctors would have noticed if she was a psychopath and refused to prescribe medication. If she had been suffering from symptoms of bipolar disorder, which is what at least one doctor thought, then her symptoms of short-term thinking might have been treatable and her psychosis as well. That would have made her a victim of medical neglect.
>>34867571they are just repeating bs, they dont even know what she claimed to have.i would bet they dont know whats the difference between both of them