>>34865118
Mostly because 4chan is male dominated

Crazy concept to grasp but people having conversations with other humans in public don't talk about looksmaxxing, who mogs who, blackpills, or how stacy turned down brad because of his negative canthal tilt. Bald/Balding dudes still land dates, chubby guys stil land dates, girls don't call the cops on you for striking up polite conversation and some women make the first move if they're really into a guy.

Go outside, quit trying to "learn" about dating from a crab bucket website full of other struggling men.

They have a "how to get high value guys" guide

>>34865332
Not to mention you're getting half of your advice from people who haven't been around women since high school (or are still IN high school).

>>34865118
There are how to get rich men communities online. Gold digger universities.

>>34865118
Seriously, women have it so fucking easy:
Even if they're obese and/or ill, some sucker will still want her: it's a matter of "when" for them.
What a fucking joke, lmao.
Literally all we can do as men is play the hand we're dealt as well as realistically possible.
No one else will admit this.

>>34866040
>You'll lose money chasing women.
>Though you'll never lose women chasing money.

>>34865118
Roiding does not attract women, and nobody cares about educational experience and most girls don't care about many of the things listed in that sub5 chud meme.
Women also need certain characteristics like having a low body count or being a virgin, not being fat

>>34866095
>Women also need certain characteristics like having a low body count or being a virgin, not being fat

Normally yes, but not in the current market

>>34866095
>Women also need certain characteristics like having a low body count or being a virgin, not being fat
A woman can be all that and still find some guy willing to marry her. There is absolutely nothing a woman needs to do to get into a relationship other than say yes.

>>34866144
/thread

>>34865118
Getting men for women is a lot more passive. They can "manifest", they can just put themselves in the right places and signal that they're available by making themselves appear a certain way.

>>34865118
there is, just not on this shitty website, because an entire army of retards keeps giving advice of 'stay a virgin'

>>34865118
Men are easy. Basically just requires a woman to show attraction.

there is

>>34866212
Not the case for the top 15% of men that women want.

>>34866226
I'm fat and bald and stupid and poor, and women have shown attraction towards me.

>>34866144
>There is absolutely nothing a woman needs to do to get into a relationship other than say yes.
Yeah, but a relationship with *who*, exactly? With a man they actually want? Probably not so much.
And if you don't actually want the person you're settling into a relationship with, then what's the point? Maybe you should take a page from their playbook and learn to be as discerning as they are, instead of desperately longing for any random warm body with a pulse because you're afraid to be alone.

>>34866306
>I'm fat and bald and stupid and poor, and women have shown attraction towards me.
What exactly do YOU define as signs of attraction that women have shown you?

>>34865118
>If this isn't true why isn't there a how to get men gen?
it is true so there isn't, they don't need it. It was never a problem for them and this gives them the impression it's the same way for men

>>34866041
It's like civilization is defying nature and in effect eroding the future of the species...

>>34866313
>Yeah, but a relationship with *who*, exactly? With a man they actually want? Probably not so much.
So do you want Handmaid's Tale to become reality, or not? Because you can't all have a 10/10 chad for yourself, the math doesn't work.

>>34866380
>Because you can't all have a 10/10 chad for yourself
I'm a man you fucking retard. And no shit they can't...just like men all can't have the 10/10 stacy. A lot of people need to be way more realistic about what they bring to the table and therefore what they can get. That goes for men and it goes for women.

>>34865118
Maybe you faggots should get some standards

>>34866375
Kek, you managed to turn a rant about dating into some bargain bin “future of the species” philosophy.
Relax, Darwin, you’re posting on /adv/, not rewriting evolutionary biology.

>>34866041
In terms of evolutionary success, it's very easy for a woman to have 2 or 3 kids, but impossible to have 300. A man can have 300 theoretically.

>>34865118
For the umpteenth time -

- Women have a high floor, low ceiling
- Men have a low floor, infinitely high ceiling

The worst thing that can happen to a man is demoralization, not failure.
Confidence is the most important thing you have as a man - guard it with your life - because it is your life.

>>34866555
Demoralization happens because of failure, you stupid Indian nigger

>>34866637
No it doesn't.
Demoralization happens when you mistakenly believe failure is the end, not information to gather for the next journey.
The moment you allow yourself to think failure is the end is the moment your life ends.

The worst thing about the internet is the endless victim pipeline slop that young men can easily fall into if they fail once.

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>>34865118
hate them so much it's unreal

>>34866046
Good one

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>>34865118
>no brakes on this bait plane

>>34866380
Even if every man was a 10/10 chad, women wouldn't be happy and they'd want the top 10% of whatever the new distinguishing factor is.

>>34866422
Retarded simp won't get pussy for defending foidkind on the internet.

>>34865118
One of the nicest and coolest guys I know is dating an ugly fat chick who just plays gacha games all day. It sucks out there

>>34866669
Peak incel-posting.

>>34865332
no they just don't talk about it in public.

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>>34866793
Peak retarded roastie or cuck fuckwit posting

>>34865118
>exist
>be pretty
Its hard being pretty anon so stop this blackpill bullshit
Just look online at the endless self care routines girl do with like 1000 steps

>>34866793
He is right though.

I've actually been working on a new OP that changes /htgwg/ to /how to date general/ but I'm a male and have been having a hard time finding healthy and non toxic resources for women on how to date.

>>34867104
>blackpill
OP is a redpilled incel

>>34866948
Nah boss, they don't talk about it at all. These are chronically online perversions of the real world, going out into it proves it all wrong real quick.

>>34865118
>why isn't there a how to get men gen?
Because 95% of 4chan are men.

Nothing you do fucking matters. It is completely arbitrary whether or not you get a gf. You can be fat, skinny, muscular, whatever. Some people are just destined to be alone.

>>34867824
>let me just offload all responsibility for my value on the dating market onto some made up fate entity because nothing scares me more than the realization that nobody is behind the wheel and im just a whiny baby

>>34867880
Whatever makes you feel better. You totally "earned" everything that happened to you. I'm sure next time some tragedy comes into your life it will be your fault and you just had to do the right thing.

>>34867880
I'm sure it's the fucking 3yo toddlers fault they get murdered by their parents. They should have just had more value and tried harder. We do have the ability to control some things but ultimately if we are wired in a fucked up way or if circumstances prevent us, things will be difficult. Fuck you, man.

>>34867910
>>34867928
>It is completely arbitrary whether or not you get a gf. You can be fat, skinny, muscular, whatever. Some people are just destined to be alone.
but suddenly when faced with reality, the goalpost becomes
>I'm sure next time some tragedy comes into your life it will be your fault and you just had to do the right thing.
>I'm sure it's the fucking 3yo toddlers fault they get murdered by their parents.
you're literal monkeys you're so predictable

>>34867115
Not really, no

>>34867115
About what?

Thread premise is doubly stupid because, unless I've been Mandela'd again, I'm pretty sure this board DID have how to get men generals not too long ago.

>>34866653
I dunno man, I see other men succeeding thanks to stuff that they were born with. I cannot self improve my height or my face

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>>34865118
Even if I am an autist virgin incel I have a somewhat active social life and I have come to the conclusion that personality is the most important part, it can't be otherwise.

I'm not saying that being tall, have a nice face or whatever is useless but it's only secondary.

A good enough personality can always compensate every defect you have (Both mental and physical), I have seen short people, ugly people, fat people, asshole people, nice people, people not having a car or even a driver license, people that have shit dead end jobs (Or no job at all), people that still live with their parents and poor people date 8+ women without being fit, secretely rich or whatever. All they had in common was that they weren't turbo autists like me (The nerd in that list I guess) so they had a good personality.

Some people I have seen had even more than one of the defects I listed above and still manage to get a date. That lead me to believe that there is always a personality that you can "get" that will always compensate all the defects that you may have regardless of who you are, it's just difficult to get it because it means to change who you are (Improving as a person) and is often easier to blame women instead of yourself.

It's like the body is the hardware and the personality is the software, you can always change the software to get more out of your hardware.
Outside there must be a clone of you that has a normie personality and get laid all the time. The only true thing in that image is that for women is easier but that image overall is fake because the only type of incel that exists is the mentalcel.

>>34869403
What this dumb normie is saying, if you want to get laid you need to be a bluepilled normie who does all the normie shit, then some mid or ugly woman will give you her attention after carefully selecting between countless other bluepilled normies.
But as soon as they get a whiff of you being redpilled or even worse blackpilled, or that you suffered traumas, are sad or down on your luck they will run away. These are the agents of the matrix, trying to drag you back into their illusionary world where they think are in control. Vile fucking golems.

>>34868554
But you can self improve your social status and wealth to offset the lack of height and face. Women are not men, looks are half the story. For men finding women attractive, nothing but looks matter.

>>34869454
>if you want to get laid you need to be a bluepilled normie who does all the normie shit
Did you expect something different?

>But as soon as they get a whiff of you being redpilled or even worse blackpilled, or that you suffered traumas, are sad or down on your luck they will run away
You should wait to open up with somebody only after you get along really well, that's not valid only with women but with men too. Opening up to strangers is a sign of bad personality (unpleasant to be with, why this person I just met is telling me this). It's not nice but it's true.
Don't show traits of you bad personality until you get along well. Do you think all people show their true self with a person they just met? Again that's not valid only with women but with men too.

>>34868009
But he is, though.

>>34866226
That's the other side of that coin, yes.

>>34869454
>But as soon as they get a whiff of you being redpilled or even worse blackpilled, or that you suffered traumas, are sad or down on your luck they will run away
Well...yeah. Therefore, the obvious solution is to stop being such red/black pilled faggot then. So why do you cling to it so proudly then? Is being a seething blackpiller so important to you that you need to make it into your whole identity? And only drive women away and lower your odds even more? Because yes anon, women as a rule do not like men who make being resentful of women into their whole personality very much, who knew.
As for your trauma, I'm sorry to hear that anon but guess what, so have a lot of people. More than you think, because with a lot of people who have been through hell and back you will never know about it, never even guess. And the reason for that is, a lot of them won't walk around seething and trauma-dump on people at the first attentive ear that comes along. That's just part of basic social skills and mental hygiene. Again, some things you'll need to learn and come to terms with if you want any happiness or success with women, or even just in life in general.

>>34865118
Nah it's more like, be born good looking, moids standards being way lower

>>34869454

We really need to get rid of the word normie and just say what it is: That you're a fagot who sees emotionally secure people and get angry that you don't get unconditional love.

>>34865332
>Balding dudes still land dates, chubby guys stil land dates,
LMAO even in your "it's not so bad post" you still had to qualify with balding and chubby because you know the actually unattractive guys aren't getting a chance to date and you have to distract everyone from that

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>>34865332
>Bald/Balding dudes still land dates,
The bald guy getting dates

>>34865332
Women think they can't get dates because guys who don't check all those boxes are not people and don't exist to them. Men who can't get dates even try to get dates with women they find repulsive ugly fat crazy single moms etc and can't.

>>34869735
assuming this is actually the case, how would you get over that?

>>34870276
Get over your insecurities and deep dive in to your personal history to see where your resentment and inability to form secure bonds with people comes from

Pro tip: your parents are more retarded and spiteful than you think!

>>34870092
>>34870124
>>34870134

What you gentlemen choose to believe is the single largest limiting factor keeping you miserable and lonely. Even lolcows still get laid, some even find real love if only for a time.

If you truly feel that the best way to spend your time is defending your misery instead of chasing your happiness then that's not my place to stop you, but I would like to encourage you otherwise.

>>34867104
they do that because of vanity.
women dont need 1000 step self care routines. often they dont even need makeup.

stop pretending like putting on some eyeliner and not being fat is a hard task you dumb retard

>>34870371
>Get over your insecurities and deep dive in to your personal history to see where your resentment and inability to form secure bonds with people comes from
ok
>Pro tip: your parents are more retarded and spiteful than you think!
you lost me here. sounds like therapist no-contact propaganda

>>34870371
>>34871985
also
>Get over your insecurities
how?

>>34871999
what are your insecurities?

>>34870371
what if you have both undiagnosed ADHD resulting in lifelong micro rejections and RSD, AND retarded and indifferent parents?

>>34871164
this is so mompilled/dadpilled son you can do whatever you want nothings stopping you except trying ok mom

>>34866144
lmao I fucking wish this was true

>>34870124
I'm kind of blackpilled, but I've seen exceptions to the rule. A coworker of mine who's like 5'8-5'9" and balding convinced 2 pretty decent looking young women to apply for a position at my store on Wednesday and they actually showed up for an interview today with a cv in hand and they're coming back tomorrow for an interview with the gm. Mind you, they were there to get a new phone plan to begin with.
Today, this fucker had this 15-16 year old girl giggling while he helped her figure out how to use a scientific calculator.
I'm over here kicking myself for not trying to get a conversation going with this cute customer I met a few times, while he effortlessly chats with people of all kinds with zero fear.

>>34872272
it is
>what about
just lie, women always do for fuck sakes
>oh ha ha i was only with 3 guys
i know dudes who married girls with 30+ bodies


ITT: Betas, cucks and foids trying to deny the obvious

>>34872321
>i know dudes who married girls with 30+ bodies
Meh it sucks but also I have fucked more than 30 women

>>34872289
Sucks that you have to see that. I wish all the boys were able to get girls, me included, unfortunately I'm fucking autistic by behavior (not diagnosed) and have severe fear of the outside

>>34872376
I'm not mad at him or society. I'm mad at myself. I'm a grown ass man in his mid 20s who's so far behind most other men in the same age group. I've never been the type of guy who can just start up a conversation with a woman without worrying about what they think of me. I don't know how he or my other coworkers do it.

>>34865118
The leasson here should be stop being an effortcuck

Nothing stops you from creating one. Obviously your pic is not true, it's only low IQ incel cope. Most incels are also closeted homosexuals so they would actually flock to a "how to get men" thread. They dream of getting their own "Chad".

>>34865118
even some of the disgusting dysgenic freaks on To Catch a Predator were able to remarry

women have it easier than men, yeah, but not by a whole lot

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>>34865118
you won't find it here but you'll find tons of

>how to get men to commit / stick around after sex happens

content over youtube and social media, which is the real challenge for women

>>34872530
troon/landwhale detected

please women gtfo this thread
troons too [not women]

>>34872272
just because 10/10 chad doesn't want you doesn't mean it isn't true

>>34872056
that i'm awkward, annoying, and repetitive. also the fact that i'm a khv

>>34872289
That's not the same as having a girlfriend or even a date. But your autismo is even preventing such interactions. Your guy sounds sleazy but maybe that reads as bad boy energy that girls like.

>>34872586
>how to get men to commit / stick around after sex happens
Which isn't a real problem for women because all they have to do is not be whores and wait for sex until marriage.

>>34873336
>Your guy sounds sleazy but maybe that reads as bad boy energy that girls like.
He's not a bad guy imo. He was a theatre kid in college so that may explain his level of confidence.

>That's not the same as having a girlfriend or even a date. But your autismo is even preventing such interactions.
I don't think I'm autistic. I'm just a very shy individual, but I have been told that I have a serious looking face. I did talk to a woman around my age at a political event 2 weeks ago in a platonic matter. It wasn't that bad, but it was still nerve-racking because again, I don't want to sound weird or come off as a creep, and if I'm being honest, I don't have what most women would generally want in a man.

>>34871164
>If you truly feel that the best way to spend your time is defending your misery instead of chasing your happiness then that's not my place to stop you, but I would like to encourage you otherwise.
i asked out dozens of women 1999-2014 and didn't get a first date

why should i believe starting again now would have a better result? (not trolling, i honestly want to know how you figure pursuing my happiness now would have a better result when, as far as i can tell, saying has only gotten far worse and more competitive than the period i was actually trying in)

>>34873970
>i asked out dozens of women 1999-2014 and didn't get a first date
Good on you, what was your approach?

>why should i believe starting again now would have a better result?
Have you changed? I'm sure you've matured, wizened and mellowed out a bit, we all tend to with time. I know the world has changed around you, whch might even be to your benefit. What do you have going for you now that you didn't then? New interests? Hobbies? Learned any new skills?

Regardless, there's an old expression "the best time to plant a tree was 10 years ago, the 2nd best time to plant a tree is right now". Nothing is going to grow if you don't plant it. Some seeds die before they bloom, but the only way you can guarantee NOTHING will bloom is by not planting anything.

>>34872217
There's some truth to that, yeah there are always going to be factors outside your control but the only way to guarantee you won't make something happen is to never even attempt it.

>>34866653
repeated failures without any "experience" to "earn" is the same vibe as "God gave each of us a beautiful life; just ignore Tim's Cerebral Palsy and Down Syndrome. He'll find love too"
Men, since maybe as far back as the mid 20tu century, have worked harder, become wiser; and acted more carefully and patiently sexually than any other group of men in history. We are rewarded the least. The games rules do not make sense anymore. No one should play. RapeFuture will happen. RapeRapeRape. Literally deserve it for whipping four generations of men into Model Tier Inceldom.

>>34874455
just try harder bro

>>34866653
>information to gather for the next journey.
Do women actually tell you why they reject you and give you a list of improvement points that you can work on so they'd say yes next time? Because they don't for me.

>>34874838
crickets in response to this post. curious!
>just magically get the knowledge bro
we can't all be blessed like that

>>34873348
Men are the ones who want sex as fast as possible

>>34865332
>They don’t talk about lookmaxxing, who mugs
Yeah they do, I’m doing a master degree and that’s how most of the undergrads freshmen talk. They grewup brainwashed by tiktok!

>>34865332
the internet is real life now unc
we're cooked

>>34875211
Only the men women want to keep, that's why they're looking for videos on how to make them commit, kek.

>>34875207
when you hear you're "not her type" 10-30 times it should activate some almonds. Unfortunately most retards here come to the conclusion "welp I'm just ugly and there's nothing I can do, time to jack off and play video games until I die"

>>34875262
>when you hear you're "not her type" 10-30 times it should activate some almonds.
but what conclusions should you come to

>>34875262
>when you hear you're "not her type" 10-30 times it should activate some almonds.
Do you really not get how vague "not my type" is?

>>34875398
That she wasn't into you like that. Should be pretty cut and dry anon.
>>34875410
>Do you really not get how vague "not my type" is?
Are you really so autistic that you need a point by point breakdown from her and can't just take the hint? You'll never get that completely logical dissertation that you're looking for from a woman anyway, and if by miracle she did, you wouldn't want to hear it. Sometimes women who reject you are actually trying to be nice, believe it or not, and won't just say "you're a creepy autistic faggot who totally dries me up" unless you really, REALLY push the issue. But she's more likely to just block you at that point.

>>34875441
Also I forgot, "no spark" is another one you'll hear along the same lines as "not my type". But again, these all really speak for themselves if you use your brains for two seconds.
The other thing too is, if you guys ever had any actual experience with dating women (and not just glomping on to the first thing you see with a pulse) you might have realized on your own that you also have had run-ins with women that you just didn't like much, that she wasn't YOUR type or you just didn't connect or see her as worth a bother besides one or two dates. And that's fine, because not everyone is compatible or a good match. But it's like some of you can't even imagine that scenario, let alone one where it's you the girl just doesn't like very much.

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women OWE me sex.

>>34875398
>>34875410
you will never get anywhere with women when you treat everything they say this literally. You are literally too autistic to reproduce, if your attitude is
>but what conclusions should you come to
it's nature telling you your genes are too stupid and weak to reproduce. If you literally cannot read between the lines to save your life, you just don't get to have a girlfriend, simple as. She will leave you by week 2 because you treat life like programming

>>34875441
>>34875477
Why are you seething?
You're literally agreeing with me that >>34866653 is wrong, women won't ever actually specify why they don't like you so there's no real way to improve from rejection and demoralization happens because failure IS the end, as you yourself admit that some people are destined to die alone.

>>34875462
Women owe me so much more than sex at this point.

>>34875518
No we're literally not. It's the end for THAT DATE with THAT SPECIFIC WOMAN you retard, not all women in general.
>so there's no real way to improve from rejection
Maybe not for you, because you steadfastly refuse to learn from anything. And yes, you should be able to still learn from it without the woman holding your hand through the process and straight up giving the answers away.
>some people are destined to die alone.
I don't know about the other anon you quoted (I'm the first one) so I won't speak for him but I actually 100% agree with this. The thing is, when I give advice what I'm trying to impart upon you guys is while yes, that IS true, the whole point is that it doesn't have to be true FOR YOU. But again, some of you just refuse to learn and don't actually want to succeed. So for you, that may well be the case. But it's by choice. (and it usually is)

>>34867020
No one cares about your opinion.

>>34865118
There's barely any women on this site to be frank. I see more gay men post than women.
Even Hiro's best demographic estimate was 70% male and 30% female, and this was with advertisers in mind. You can check this on the self serve ad page. This was also from roughly 8 years ago and the site has since tanked in activity by about 50-70%, with most primary and secondary boards dropping heavily in traffic and every tertiary board is flatlined. For example, /cgl/, the board that had the highest concentration of women, has about 10% of the activity it did in 2018, which in itself was a mountainous drop from its prior activity.
So basically there's a sparse demand for that kind of thread, and even if it did exist, it would likely be mostly gay men and the threadly shitposter that hates women and/or gays
I have seen similar threads on other sites however

>>34875518
>so there's no real way to improve from rejection
there is, you just exhibit learned helplessness and exhibit everyone else to do the work for you.
Natural selection at work.