I found a kitten trapped by the neck and paw in the neighbors patio. 2 months to recover the tissue, 3 x rays and no one noticed what was broken or bent after 8 reviews and rebandages. At home, without bandage, hid paw bends forward 140 degrees. A trauma specialist said growth plates are fucked, wait out until he's no longer 3 months and once an adult maybe amputate. Without a bandage he uses it and has sensibility but barely steps on it, when he has some support he uses it more. I'm visiting another trauma specialist for a 2nd opinion but apart of a split until he grows a bit I don't know what to do and want to avoid chronic pain for him. Thanks for any advice.
its a fucking cat not a human being just put the thing out of its misery or stop caring because it doesnt understand paineither way stop being such a massive faggot
>>34867914you're subhuman brown and deserve a bullet.Don't have any advice but to say good on you for rescuing the cat OP
>>34867785Advice? You didn't make a question. Let him wear the bandage, not using the thing means it will atrophiate anyway. Dunno why amputating would be necessary, just let him be a crippled kitten.
>>34868174Hmm i can ask a veterinarian if you want an opinion, this being said i hope you would adopt and take care of it, otherwise put it up for adoption you are a good human anon, wish it returns back to you.
>>34868681Oh I'm a 100 percent keeping him, he have a house with a decent garden and my other cats already groom him and take care of him. What annoys me is that after 3 vets that won't even send me the radiographs, not one told me hey maybe we have to take care of the joint. I understand they tried to preserve the tissues first but I've had 10 visits and all they did was medicate and bandage. Now hearing the orthopedic tell me hey let him limp for a few months and then I'll cut it, annoyed the hell out of me. He plays and uses it if he has some support, so after all he's been through I'll keep some faith in recovery, it won't be perfect but I swear finding a vet that doesn't simply dispatch you is too hard.
>>34868870Nigga listen.It's a miracle at all that the cat lives. Stop expecting more. It's not smart to waste a shit ton of money on specialist, surgery, postoperative care etc. The cat itself doesn't care and wouldn't thank you. You make a big deal out of it because you dump human misery on a cat shaped vessel. The only thing you should be concerned with is whether the cat is in pain or not, and if it's in pain you kill it, the vet knows this, any human doctor knows this and would euthanize a lot of people if it weren't by jewish laws.You gotta be happy beyond the cat, man. When the cat dies what's gonna be next? Gonna go for heroic treatments for your father and your mother? And when they die who's it gonna be? You're the only one you're stuck with for the rest of your life, let living things pass and worry about your own joy. Only saying this because that way of thinking goes deeper beyond the cat, and i have lived through it and still gives grief to my relatives.
>>34868174im white and dont give a shit about these bird murdering machinessave the bullet for the cat, itll need it
>>34869027cats dont understand pain retard, you call out anthropomorphisation yet are guilty of it yourselfif you think it knows what its like to live with chronic pain, it doesnt, its a fucking catit can "feel" pain but it doesnt process the meaning of it like we do, pain for us causes severe mental agony and deeply traumatic associationsa cat doesnt work like that, theyre absolutely retardedunless you systematically torture it like some kind psychopath, it genuinely doesnt carecats can shit out 3 litters of up to 6 kittens a yearmeanwhile childbirth for us is one of the most feared experiences you can have in life
>>34868870veterinarians are massive scammers taking advantage of overly emotional retards anthropomorphising their pets beyond reasonif you treated it like an actual animal theyd respect you more
>>34869143>>34869139>>34869122You should change your name to "gonorrhoeic retard"
>>34869274>t.
>>34869143If I didn't let it die under the sun when I found it and want to take good care of it because I want to maintain my anthropomorphic resemblance, I know letting it die would have been more convenient.
>>34869617i dont care about whatever you tell yourself to justify your irrational behaviourim just saying what needs to be saidthis is exactly how veterinarians think and this is why they suggest amputationamputating a limb doesnt register in a cats brain the way it does for usit may be aware, but it doesnt realise, it doesnt intellectualise, and therefore it doesnt careand so doesnt death, cats arent afraid of death, cats dont even know what death isone less cat means youve saved hundreds of birds, rodents, frogs and other small animals
>>34869739Love and compassion towards creatures in need is the defining trait of rationality. Your position is the irrational one. Rationality never leads to selfishness, because logic and impartiality go hand in hand.
>>34869891Jewish economists have defined rationality as self interest. But also having the ability to spend 10k on muh cat is a luxury.
>this entire fucking threadhey, thanks for helping the cat, that's super nice of you
>>34869953>heal my crippled cat magically
>>34869976you absolute retard, we are all going to die anyway. nothing in life matters beyond the scope of your personal life. so she is happy when she helps a cat and cat is also definitely happier than dying alone. literally wtf is your problem, how much abuse did you take from your parents to become this angry?
>>34869891you are literally conflating morality and rationality here you massive cock sucking retard
>>34867914This.
>>34869988cats dont have emotions fucktardwe barely know what happiness means why the fuck would you think something with a brain the size of a walnut would
>>34870288Could I have your opinion on my thread Phallus Father? >>34870283
>>34870304sure
>>34870284Morality is adherence to rationality. What's morally right is dictated by what's true, and what's true is discovered through reason. You cannot be moral and irrational at the same time, nor can you be immoral and rational. Selflessness and objectivity refer to the same disposition, which is adherence to principle over personal desire.
>>34870352rational would be valuing the hundreds of lives of innocent woodland creatures the cat would brutally take in its murderous pursuit of self gratification over the life of the one cat
>>34870401It's rational to value those lives as well, but that doesn't necessarily entail snuffing out the life of every creature that threatens them. I care enough to capture flies and let them out of the house, but that doesn't mean I go around smashing spiders because they prey on flies. That would be preferential treatment on a personal basis, which is the opposite of impartiality and thus the opposite of rationality. With that said, it's true that cats are in an unnatural position because they don't have natural predators and are more like an invasive species than a legitimate link in the food chain, so a responsible and compassionate cat owner should keep their adopted pet in the house.
>>34870449
>>34870449cats ARE invasive retardthe only reason its here is because you demand and sustain its existencemeanwhile that spider is just a normal part of the local ecosystem keeping populations of insects at bay, in turn also becoming food for larger predators
>>34870499Yes, that's my point. Cats should be kept out of the ecosystem and prevented from breeding, and cat breeders shouldn't be encouraged with business. People who want cats should simply adopt wild cats and sterilize them until their population is managed and kept to a minimum. For my part, I've never had a cat and don't ever want one. If you thought my position was otherwise then you need to keep your assumptions in check instead of indulging yourself in useless emotional outbursts.
>>34870453>>34870499>this retarded faggot is seriously dropping his name so that he can samefag and doesn't think anyone will noticefucking embarrassing
>>34870536Lmao no me and him are two different people.
>>34870536im a namefag not a homosexual
>>34870527i just support our policy of shooting feral catsits also the only way you can be sure catshitters keep their murder machines locked indoors
>>34870536And I support my dogs right to catch and eat feral invasive animals and pests.
>>34867785My advice? Listen to what the vets have to say, and not random strangers on the internet. Otherwise, keep up the good work.
>>34869139The definition of pain is literally severe mental agony. Physically pain is meant to cause mental pain, that's how it can be registered as pain at all. Traumatic associations is some other bullshit but that doesn't negate the fact that pain still has to be registered mentally to be registered at all.Cats, chimpanzees and basically every other mammal and animal can shit out fuckloads of kids because their skulls are not massive and their brains didn't evolve the way humans did with our high encephalization ratio compared to every other living thing on the planet. The childbirth fear actually maps onto real physical danger of massive baby's head in conflict with our narrow pelvis for bipedal locomotion. Just like physical pain is going to map to mental agony just by definition. Otherwise you aren't experiencing pain, or you're experiencing your teenage meme depression woe is me muh ~deep~ understanding of le ~pain of existencing~ angstFuck my assOh but nah it's fine because it doesn't "understand" pain so let's prolong its suffering because "feeling" pain is not the same as "understanding" pain like whatIf something's in pain it's in pain"Understanding" the pain is some other meta layer that may increase or reduce the pain, but the pain itself is a fixed constant that is there regardless of "level of understanding"
>>34872032*the initially triggered pain itself
>>34867785My condolences about your furry friend, I would probably wait before amputation, unless waiting will cause a future disability. Do not worry so much about pain, being permanently disabled is worse.
>>34875015Thanks, for how he's kinda fucked at the joint but seems more active unbandaged, next ween the vet and the orthopedist will discuss and advice after holiday and reviewing the new scans
>>34872032not reading your pseud shit
>>34877803Stfu pajeet
>>34877867Not m* but sure
