my gf of 4 years is giving me mixed signals about sex>teases me several times throughout the day>compliments me and flirts with me all the time>says she wants to suck and ride my hog>nothing happens>when I try to make a move, she tells me that we'll have some fun later>when "later" (aka around bedtime) arrives, she usually says something like "we should go to sleep or we'll be tired in the morning, we'll have sex tomorrow or some other time">sometimes after saying this she still goes to play minecraft or sits on her phone for an hour or twoup until a year ago we used to have sex all the time and in all sorts of places, and she was initiating a lotnow it's like sex became some sort of afterthought or chore for her, which in itself is not a problem for me because I can just jack off and have my nut for the day, but the constant blueballing is irritating methe pattern I'm seeing is similar to one of my past relationships where my ex got comfortable and bored with our life (I got my own place, my own car, everything is paid off), and didn't see the need to give me any pussy after the novelty wore off (her direct words)is there some sensible way of fixing this problem or should I look for a new gf?
>>34896677You have been together for 4 years, be an adult and talk with her. Now fr, just ask dude, if you really dont want to ask (or feel that you aren't allowed to) then yes you must find another partner
Does she have adhd and time blindness?She probably doesn't remember wanting or making plans for later and that is why you will continue to be frustrated with her.
>>34896677The age old tale of a foid losing interest in having sex with her man. Classic.
>>34896677>didn't see the need to give me any pussy after the novelty wore offAre you always doing the same routine in bed? Gotta put in some effort to keep things fresh, stay curious about new ways to fuck and different stuff to try out.Asa guy you can at least get your nut at the end of boring sex, but for women its completely pointless.
>>34896677When you talk to her about the problem, what does she say?
>>34896677Evict her gaslighting, mooching ass, but be sure to have witnesses, because she WILL go apeshit and try to either have polive unalive you or imprison you out of pure spite. Women who withhold sex are abusive as all Hell and will always gaslight you about it and try to make you feel like shit for refusing to be gaslit. They will always try to paint you as the villain and as a rapist for not being ok with the bullshit they're pulling once they think they have you whipped.
>>34897754She clearly has no interest in him at all anymore. It's not just his responsibility to keep things fresh. It's hers too and she's just blowing him off like a mooching cunt. She's using him and anyone claiming otherwise should be slapped like the bitch they are.
>>34896677>suddenly zero sex fora year after 3 yearsShe's fucking someone else, bruh.Hire a private investigator or install home security and make sure to record the entrances especially. Then you can see who she's fucking and confront her with your friends and family present.Never do it alone. She'll call the police and cry abuse like all foids do.
>>34899576Yeah it’s definitely this, she’s about to say she’s cucking you brother You needa fucking get her ass or skedaddle
>>34896701>feminazi projects mental healthMany such cases
>>34896677my (ex?) fiancee started doing this. we've always been 100% open and honest with each other, but i never got a concrete answer as to why it started. we used to have (really good and insane) sex all the timeone time she said it was because she didn't feel confident anymore (she'd gained weight) and the prospect of actually following through with her teasing scared her. sounds believable. another time, though, she shifted the blame onto me and basically said she felt like i wasn't reciprocating her energy. both could be true, or either could be true, i don't know.
>>34896677We really just need to have a sticky for this>IF YOUR WIFE/GF HAS STOPPED FUCKING YOU THERE IS NO WAY TO ARGUE HER BACK INTO FUCKING YOU>YES, THIS IS EXTREMELY COMMON. THE NORM. EXPECTED.>YOU HAVE THREE OPTIONS>cheat, jack off more, or leave her and try again with another woman
>>34896677>>34896718>>34899616Is this what people deal with being in relationships?I'm almost glad that I'm a blackcel coping with a torso sex toy.The way people describe it, it seems almost to be expected your girlfriend will lose interest in fucking with you after a few years.I wonder how many men deal with this but won't say it out loud out of shame.Why are women so flimsy? Why do they change so suddenly and easily?The Coolidge effect is supposedly a male thing but honestly I'm wondering if in humans its actually more pronounced in women and people just haven't cared to research that. But what do I know... I'm just an ignorant virginHonestly I would rather be a wizard than have to deal with this type of pain. Imagine pair bonding for years with someone, have amazing sex with them just for them to make you feel like an inadequate cuck.And OP if I was in your situation, if I was able to I would cheat 500%. Because at this point she is probably cheating on you or going to. Obviously I wouldn't gave this option which is why I have Tantaly Selena in my closet and 33.5 Fl Oz of water based lube but I also diligently practice noporn.My heart goes out to men in these situations who have CHILDREN with these women
>>34899616She was gaslighting you.Either the moment she shifted the blame, she was lying, or when she said she felt uncomfortable she was lying. They're not both true.She was probably cheating or fantasizing about cheating. Most women are incapable of true loyalty.
>>34899645Not all women are evil, however, most of them are. It's very difficult to find a good woman because most women mask their narcissism and sociopathy. Actual good women won't ever be perfect, but they'll likely be just as annoyed about bullshit as you are.
>>34896677>>when I try to make a move, she tells me that we'll have some fun lateryou ever try making a move wearing no clothes with a giant hard on? it is easier to have sex that way. Hope that helps.
>>34896677Wife did the exact same thing>Met when she was 22>lost her v-card to me >Wanted to fuck all the time, like every time we saw each other it was 1-2 times minimum, we never went to bed together without sex>To the point where me, even as someone with a fairly high sex drive, was like "ok lets chill I am exhausted tonight lets fuck in the morning" and she would wake me up at 3am crying that she felt rejected by me because I didn't wanna have sex before going to sleep and I'd have to fuck her at 3am while I'm annoyed and half asleep and she's getting off to how angry I am and she can feel it from the sex>Fast forward 8 years, married and living together>Ask her how often sex is good enough for her,>"At least once a week is fine I think?">I remind her it is now april and we've had sex twice this year>Almost autistically only wants to have sex last thing before bed, directly after a shower, when SHE wants to go to bed, when I want to have sex is never considered a factor>Try to initiate sex any other time of the day and she is giggly and like "later later!" (Sound familiar?)>Later comes and 90% of the time she is "too tired" from whatever regular stuff she had to do that day, but most of the time perfectly happy to ask me to grope her tits while she has a wank instead, but lets me know that she's "too tired" to help me get off>When I tell her its not enough sex for me, we're both fairly young and fit, we shouldn't be so tired that we cant even have a quicky most nights when we get to bed at a decent time, and not every fuck has to be immediately after a shower, she says "I'm not a sex machine!">Every time sex is brought up its like its her doing me a favour, like she wants to "give me pleasure" not that she wants it for herself (Perfectly happy to fuck drunk for her own pleasure or have a wank though)So tired of it
Same thing happened to me around the 2 year mark. She also said that the novelty wore off, only to backtrack and say she was going to put an effort into fixing things. But, exactly like in your case, all that led to her making up a bunch of excuses to postpone sex.She isn't cheating like the other people suggested. I suspected this was case, so I went through her phone (she gave me her password, she knows mine too) and found nothing. And I'm not away from home long enough for the logistics of cheating to work. She just seems to have given up on sex, despite being acting like a nympho during the first few months and basically begging me to fuck her ass and other things like that.I suspect it has something to do with female sexuality and how they are wired. Even if they don't want children, I think they subconsciously lose interest in pair-bonded mates who fail to get them pregnant. It's her lizard brain telling her that her partner is infertile and to stop trying to mate with him. That's my hypothesis anyway.
>>34900160>not cheating>she let me see her phoneShe has a burner phone, retard.Possibly several.
>>34900169This. She also definitely has at least 3 children by three other men in Jamaica. She visits them when OP thinks she’s at work.
>>34896677It's natural As for novelty, mystery, and excitement plan out date nights with that theme and/or learn to get freaky in the bedroom. You don't have go full blown Kink Master cruising all the Swinger Clubs but stuff like roleplay and costuming are pretty vanilla: esp stuff like a RP were she roleplays and dresses up as hooker you just bought showing up to your door. Or even better yet do that RP at hotel room. But there are 1000s of saucy RPs and costuming you can doTell her you've decided you want to spice up your sex life and ask her to come up with 10 sex fantasies she's always wanted to try
>>34899576>>34899598She absolutely fucking someone else. When women do this they are dick crazy, thinking about it all the time. Hes not there so you are the only thing around with a dick to tease. Shes not going to fuck you though. Thats for someone else.
>>34896677Instead of engaging in sunk cost fallacy, I'd dump her and find another one. It'll hurt for a while but it's not like you're getting your needs met anyway. Romantic passion is like a grapefruit, you squeeze all the juice out of it and you won't get it back.
You pissed away 4 years of her life without marrying her or giving her children. Of course she would stop seeing you as a viable mate.
>>34900352No, it's not normal, at all. Desire easily collapses if she has you in totality. You should always be dating your gf. Never get complacent.
>>34896677The leading cause of dead bedrooms is marriage. Putting a ring on a woman is a death sentence to a healthy sex life because it signals that you're a doormat and will stay with her no matter what.Take a look at relationships where there's sex all the time - the dude is either unstable or doesn't give a shit about the woman.
>>34896677Your mistake was allowing her to live with you.The data is that sex tails off dramatically the moment you allow this to happen.
>>34896677god forbid you talk to her.
Hoping pic is unrelated
>>34896677what the fuck do you expect to happen? That she's gonna roll out a red carpet leading directly to her genitals? Do you need a manual air traffic controller with sticks to guide your way in?
>>34896677If she's in your house you can fuck her whenever you want.
I’ve been in a relationship of 5 years and we never got tired of sex. In fact, it kept us closer together. If not for the good sex (yes even 5 years in) we would have broken up earlier.Skill issue OP. Do you tease her? Do you still bother looking attractive to her?
>>34900116>Met when she was 22>lost her v-card to meYou have absolutely no room to complain.
>>34909329My girl regularly welcomes me in lingerie or nude when I come back from work and when we hang out she often sits on me and tells me to play with her ass or gives me a massage. Tends to happen when you're not a chud beta that has to do chores to get sucked off kek.>>34909466>Do you still bother looking attractive to her?This.Attraction is non-negotiable. If you're attractive and she's into you, sex will always happen.
>>34896677>>34900116>>34900160I'm in a similar position. So sick of being told 'later' every time I initiate, and then her being too tired when the time rolls around.I don't have an answer, and I feel like this advice >>34899629doesn't help that much.>cheatwhat's the end outcome here? There are so many ways for this to go badly and fuck up your life, and you're probably not enough of a sneaky sociopathic mastermind to pull off the so-called 'good' outcome where you deceive your gf indefinitely and get all the sex you want. And why would you do that instead of just>leavesure you can just find another gf and arrive at the same problem (situation I'm in), which supposedly is expected because everyone says this is normal, and takes several years to present itself. I mean, suppose you find some turboslut. Won't she just eventually do the same thing, or cheat, or both? How can you tell when deciding whether or not to get into a relationship? Or how to prevent it?alternatively you can just become a perpetual fuckboy and waste your life away scrounging around for pussy like an absolute degenerate. Maybe with enough effort you can get all the sex you want, but the cost will be everything else meaningful about a relationship.>masturbatecurrently my attempt at coping, and I can tell you for sure that there's a reason we're all looking to solve this issue. You're kidding yourself if you think it's just about the orgasm. Hiding away in the bathroom to go wank after getting turned down is such a shameful state of being, so far I have been unable so separate it from my self esteem. I don't even think I'm bad looking or anything, and I have no idea what I could do to be more appealing.lastly, when people say this is normal, why should that justify it? Look around, everyone's miserable. Don't tell me I should be happy to fit in with all the depressed dudes with oblivious partners
>dude all women are like this, it's normal>dude just break up with her and find a new girl
>>34910253>Maybe with enough effort you can get all the sex you want, but the cost will be everything else meaningful about a relationship.If your """"soulmate"""" doesn't want to have sex with you, you don't have a meaningful relationship.>uhh ackshually I can be a goober around her, we buy chinese toys from temu and she sometimes laughs at my jokes, so it's like a very deep connection and uhhh we were destined for each otherlol
>>34910424>If your """"soulmate"""" doesn't want to have sex with you, you don't have a meaningful relationshipI agree completely. That's why I hate it when people say to just expect your woman to stop wanting sex after a while. Clearly there's something wrong if this is happening. But then the response is always>if you don't like it, then just leaveand what do we do when the same thing happens in the next relationship?
>>34896677>be married guy>obviously sex once or twice a week max>more than that makes you a sex addict who needs therapy, obviously>blue ballin’ 5-6 days per week. >6x more days than not blue ballin’>in a relationship>gets to the point where the fat lady who works at the gas station and flirts with you starts to seem kinda hot>tfw
>>34910253>cheatSexually satisfying yourself is the point. It is obviously very risky for a plethora of reasons. If you are determined to satisfy yourself, it is one way. I’m not trying to convince you it is or would be the best way. You bring up a good point about masturbation not being the same thing because it’s not just about the orgasm. For the same reason, this would probably not fill the entire hole (lol) because it is still effectively just the orgasm in terms of your main relationship.>leaveYou probably would land at the exact same point with another woman. Again, it is just an option. It’s rolling a 50 sides die. Maybe you get 50 this time. Doubt it but maybe>masturbateYeah I’m married and I cannot tell you how sad that feels. You already know so it’s fine I guess. You’re not supposed to fantasize about other women but how is fantasizing about your own wife supposed to work when she doesn’t fuck you often and also you JUST got turned down? You supposed to jerk off to a less disappointing version of your same day? That’s goddamn near humiliation ritual level. So you end up jerking it to other fantasies and it just feelsbadman.jpg. Got no advice there and nothin’ to say other than it’s the “safest” option>when people say this is normal, why should that justify it?Not at all. Settlers of Catan is a better game but Candyland is nailed to the table. At a certain point you have to manage your expectations even if the issue is bullshit.
>>34910475Think about it like this:>the economy currently sucks and shit is fucked. Pretty much nobody argues with this>people are not paid enough for the jobs they do and corporations squeeze everyone for everything they’re worth. Also common opinion>so when it comes to a job, you have a few choices whether you like them or not>get underpaid and cope. Look for a new job that will do the exact same thing to you because they can. Not work and not get paid at allYou have to realize there are social conditions around you which are highly unlikely to change even if you can make an excellent argument that they’re wrong.
>>34910274All those men don’t actually justify never having sex to the women. It’s other men they lie to about it. It’d probably be much more accurate to draw all those men seething in private and then proudly bragging to each other about how much sex they always get because nobody wants to admit their wife doesn’t give a fuck and won’t fuck them
>>34911184ironic that you'd be getting more sex if you weren't in a relationship>>34911211such a grim state of affairs. At least I can take some small amount of comfort in knowing that so many other men are dealing with the same problem, and that I'm not just some sex-crazed exceptional case like my gf has me believe>>34911222I get this, but if I found out there was something I was doing, or not doing, that was causing my gf to be this dissatisfied, I would be appalled and would immediately take steps to correct it. Isn't it just so awful to consider the fact that your partner finds sex with you so difficult that they just simply can't do it, despite knowing how important it is to you? Try to think of the worst thing you would put yourself through to keep your partner happy. Sex with you is worse than that for them. You're right, it's simply something to come to terms with. But it's a hard pill to swallow
>>34896677>and didn't see the need to give me any pussy after the novelty wore off (her direct words)Means she wasn't attracted to you in the first place and you were betabucks. Sorry. Happened to me too.
>>34911266>Isn't it just so awful to consider the fact that your partner finds sex with you so difficult that they just simply can't do itI don’t think that’s it. They’re usually more neglectful and dismissive of your needs than malicious. You seem to like the other parts of your relationship so I doubt she’s malicious for finds you wholly disgusting. Men have different biology when it comes to sex, different needs emotionally, and different drives for it all. Women do not understand this and do not care because they believe you to be equal to them in every way. If you’re not seeing it like them, you have a problem. Now this wouldn’t be such a big deal but you’re expected to anticipate and address her needs even if you don't understand them perfectly.I’m sure you’ve noticed that sex is how men feel close to women. You feel less close when it doesn’t happen and you’re constantly getting turned down. It absolutely does shit all over your self esteem. Trust me I’ve been there. Fuck, I am there. The way to check if you’re crazy or not when it comes to your own desirability is to just flirt with other women without doing anything further. If other women would obviously still fuck you then you’re fine. If all other women act like they want to have nothing to do with you, then it’s you. It would probably feel wrong but ultimately you’re not touching anyone or getting emotional with them and if she would address the issue more seriously then you wouldn’t even be thinking of it in the first place.
>>34908271>Hoping pic is unrelatedrelated*
This is the last stage feminism and fucked up female thyroids. That's basically the problem.
Why isn't ISIS better?
she's cheating on you retard break up with her
>>34910475>and what do we do when the same thing happens in the next relationship?You leave and try with the next one. Have some respect for yourself nigga. There's a foid out there that will suck your dick in the middle of the night without asking, you just gotta find her.All that lovey dovey stuff doesn't matter when your balls are being busted most of the time and your foid of choice shrugs it off when you voice your problem.
>>34896677Talk to her about it. Ignore all retarded misogynistic comments.It could be a lot of things. A lot of those things are bad news. A lot arent. There's 4 main reasons for this:>she's not attracted to you anymoreWorst case scenario but often its fixable if shes willing to have an honest conversation about why. Weight gain is the most common cause.>she doesnt feel attractive anymoreMake sure you touch her a lot when you DONT want sex. Women need lots and lots of non sexual physical affection or they feel like objects. Also if she recently gained weight this is common>high stressUnlike men high cortisol makes women not want sex>unrelated health issueCould just genuinely have something else going on.I was actually just getting a tad insecure because my gf didnt want to have sex for like 4 days which is way less than normal for her. On day 5 she started shitting blood and I took her to the hospital and now shes recovering. Turns out she was extremely constipated all week. Dont always assume the worst.
>>34911278>It absolutely does shit all over your self esteem>just flirt with other women without doing anything furtherNah, go all the wayMy gf was on a several-weeks-long streak of turning me down and she said that my dick is kinda small and that she has trouble orgasming with meAt that point I was basically tweaking 24/7, so I started dating women on tinder behind her backAll of them were telling me that I'm a great guy, they were orgasming left and right when we fucked and a lot of them said that my peenor is YUGEThanks to cheating on my gf, my self esteem returned to normal and any doubts I had were cleared because now I KNOW that I'm a good looking and charming guy and that my junk is more than enough for some good sexNow I'm cheating on her out of pure spite and waiting for the moment when she finds out so she can atone for being a stupid bitch
>>34913635Bro if my gf ever said my dick was small and I wasnt satisfying her id dump her immediately. Go dump her before you get caught cheating youre out of your fucking mind. The breakup is gonna be so much messier if you get caught.
>>34913635>My gf was on a several-weeks-long streak of turning me down and she said that my dick is kinda small and that she has trouble orgasming with meWhat the actual fuckHave some self esteem retard drop that whore.
>>34913662>>34913669Nah fellas, I'm going scorched earth on her ass and she won't be able to do anything about it except for throwing a tantrum
