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She's been wanting to get them since she was 14 and we're both 19 now, together for 10 months. She's made contact with tattoo artists, is trying to find "good" ones, and is mapping out the designs she wants on her body

Lets run through the scenarios of how she'd react to different approaches I could take:
>If I tell her I don't care and act nonchalant, she'll get them
>If I sternly tell her not to get them, theres a chance she won't, but the question will definitely come up at some point and theres a higher likelihood she'll do it
>If I act concerned and practical, talking about her future and her skin and how they age, she'll come up with roundabout reasons brushing off reason I can give
>If I get really annoyed/angry, who knows what will happen. Realistically she probably won't get them, but will resent me. She still might though
>If I act really sad, cry, and plead, she almost certainly will not get them, but I'm not going to do that over a fucking tattoo.

How do I even approach this?? Playing on her emotions and acting machiavellian is 100% in the picture. Only thing I'm not willing to do is be verbally or physically abusive. We've also just started long distance a bit over a month ago
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>>34900876
>Only thing I'm not willing to do is be verbally or physically abusive
Ultimatum it is. You'll break up with her if she gets them.
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>>34900876
It's her body and she can do what she likes with it. If you're so disgusted by tattoos that you can't stand being with a woman who has them, then by all means tell her that - sadly rather than angrily - but it is ultimately still her decision and not yours. And honestly, if she's a good girlfriend in every other way, you'd be a fool to break up with her over this. And if things aren't working with her for other reasons, then you should break up now, regardless of whether she gets the tattoos or not.
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>>34900911
Morally, I would happily do this. The problem is if it doesn't work, she'll realise that my words mean nothing and she'll just do whatever she wants in the relationship thinking I don't have the self respect to leave her (thats not a reflection on her, but of anybody you give an ultimatum to where you don't actually commit). This kind of "all or nothing" gambit too risky. Breaking up with her is not in the question.
>>34900925
Feels like you've said two opposing things
>Tell her you'd break up over this
>You'd be a fool to break up with her over this
The second one is true. She's loyal, beautiful, supportive, funny, and I'm not losing all that over a tattoo. There's really nothing that isn't working in our relationship that we don't talk through. That's why I can't tell her I'd break up and actually follow through. If I don't follow through though, what I wrote for the first post will happen
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Likely too fem brained and sees it as fashion. Appeal to spend that cash on a nice necklance and pendant or jewelry instead.
If shes spiritual you can appeal that theyre used by spirits as gateways. Search up tatoo spirit portal and research it
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>>34900876
Are you sure you want to be with someone who's mentally ill like this? Especially if you're now long distance.
Maybe she needs reassurance that she's cool and pretty or whatever. Or, maybe she's just a stupid modern woman. Try reassurance, concern, and negative reinforcement:
>why do you want tattoos? are you trying to fit in? I think it's cooler when people don't have tattoos these days
>you have beautiful skin, it'd be a real shame if you tarnished it with some scribbles
>I really prefer your natural beauty
>you know the ink is harmful for your body, right?
>everyone's skin changes with age, but the ink is permanent and stays in your body and lymph nodes forever. I think you'd really regret this in a few years' time
>I don't think very highly of people who get tattoos
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>>34900876
say its not trad
say its because of the gay modern world
say she will regret it
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>>34900993
>Feels like you've said two opposing things
What I said was, IN MY OPINION you'd be a fool to break up with her over this, but that if you are so disgusted by tattoos that you can't stand being with a woman who has them, then you have no choice but to inform her of that fact. This is not the same thing as using the threat of a break-up to get her to change her mind, it's just telling her the truth about how violent and irrational and uncontrollable your feelings are. If it comes to this, don't say it as a threat, say it sadly - that the last thing in the world you want is to leave her, but if she goes ahead with this, you won't have any choice. But you shouldn't say any of that unless it's actually true, and tattoos are an absolute deal-breaker for you.
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Anyone who dislikes tattoos is just a coward and a pussy lmao
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>>34901156
Do you also color on the walls of your house?
99% of the time people with tattoos are manchildren or retarded females who want to "look cool". In the remaining 1%, they have a symbol of some sort of lifelong group affiliation, maybe the only practical purpose. That's it. You're turning yourself into walking fridge art. People with tattoos have no reason or life behind their eyes.
Tattoos are actually more likely to be had by females these days lmao, it's actually become woman cattle behavior. Yet another sign of societal degeneration.
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>>34900876
tell her she can't get one unless she puts your name on it
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>>34901220
is being walking art not awesome?
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>>34900876
This sucks, OP. I also can't stand tattoos.

Personally, I'd just be honest. If I were still in my teens, I might have sperged out, but I just don't have the energy to get into pointless pissing contests anymore. You can't save people from themselves, especially not when they don't consider it a problem.

I'd preface myself by saying that I don't want her to feel at all pressured, that she should do what she wants with herself and not worry about how I'd react.
Then, as diplomatically as I can manage, I'd just lay out that I've never liked tattoos, and why. For me, aside from just looking bad (and the common complications/risks), it amounts to people irreversibly defacing themselves. I'd emphasize that I have no interest in controlling what she does--if it's truly important to her, I wouldn't want to stop her even if I could. In principle, I would support her choice either way.
I'd leave unsaid that I would break up if she got them. The point isn't to threaten her--it's the opposite. It's to let her know what I think and find out what she thinks, whether she is invested in getting tattoos or just passingly thought it'd be cool. Just because I'd support her choice doesn't mean I'd stick around for it, but she won't feel supported if she thinks I'm threatening a breakup.

>We've also just started long distance a bit over a month ago
Unless you're getting back together soon, it's basically over at this point. It's very hard to have a meaningful influence (not even the manipulative kind, I mean just straightforward communication) this way. You will 100% lose out to the people she chooses to surround herself with, and going against them will only make you lose her faster.
It's not guaranteed--nothing is--but I would bet money on this happening.
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I have literally never seen a tattoo I thought looked good
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>>34901021
Neither would work on my girlfriend specifically but thanks for the ideas
>>34901036
Some of these are pretty good, cheers anon
>>34901377
This is the post I was looking for. Thank you.
On what you said about long distance, it does really fucking suck that what you described is definitely possible. It's already kind of started, in that she hasn't been calling me as much. I mean to talk to her seriously about needing to prioritise each other, but she just says she's "always busy", even though that "busy" also includes social plans she has....
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>>34900993
>This kind of "all or nothing" gambit too risky. Breaking up with her is not in the question.
You're in love with a woman who's wanted tattoos since she was 14. 5 years later she surprised you.

>>34901156
Found out that a guy who hates tattoos for no reason also fears needles. Its okay for a man to have flaws.

>>34901220
Yes. The walls aren't commie white.
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>>34901519
https://youtu.be/FTCfKVHxbZY?si=tEDu-HEGj_38fGnB
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Ultimately you can't and it's up to her. She's been brainwashed by her peers to think it's the cool thing to do, and no matter how you'll behave, the end results are
>she gets them done in secret because "he'll obviously like them"
>she doesn't get them and resent you, leading to a break up after which she'll get a healing-up-from-trauma tattoo
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>>34900876
Hard truth- you never need to explain why to a woman. Only explanation should be "because I said so." If you tell a woman not to do something, it isn't because of some random dice roll- there is a reason why it bothers you and she will turn this into some shit test. Don't play the game. If a woman doesn't listen to what you say, you simply get up, leave, and move on to the next. They will respect that and it will make you more attractive. Women want men who are choosy and this solution makes you choosy.
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>>34901220
It's not like tattoos have been done for centuries and by several cultures around the world. You're a retard and factually wrong
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>>34902992
People who get tattoos should go back to living in mud huts in the forest.
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>>34900876
tell her her natural body is beautiful, and how much you admire her pure skin
positive reinforcement
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Did she get the covid shot? If she did she is already marked and you can't save her so she might as well make it official on the outside too.
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>>34900876
I'm going to fuck your girlfriend and then fuck you too
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Write "nigger" with a pen on her arm. Then point out how it looks retarded.
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>>34900876
If she's wanted them for 5+ years she's not going to change her mind. I waited to get my back done for 10+ years. Finally hit a point of fuck it and got it done over the course of last year. It improved my perception of my body immensely. Is it a religious thing for you or just an aesthetic thing?
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Tattoos are great. They're a precise statistical indicator of just how much of the population has genuine mental illness and how much can be manipulated into believing anything.
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>>34901036
>lymph nodes
I'd go with this, the cancermaxx angle. The tattoo fading isn't a result of new skin, it's the result of your immune system working to break that shit down. And while those chemicals sit they are oxidizing the fuck out of your cells, especially the nodes where they collect and can't be fully excreted. If she's vaxxed then it's a double whammy.
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once again, if she's covidvaxxed there's no point trying to save her from marking herself as the devil's. let her have her slutty fun. and if she didn't get it, she probably already would know tattoos are bad.
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>>34900876
>We've also just started long distance a bit over a month ago
lmao
you're fucked lad
you getting in the way of her tattoo hopes and dreams will be the excuse she uses to break up with you for the new guy she's been seeing

>anon this whole experience has made me realizing how controlling and manipulative and selfish you are; i need to be with someone who wants me to be myself instead of trying to keep me from doing the things i want
you have zero chance of this going your way

i wrote this having skimmed your post and misreading it as the two of you having been together since you were both 14
but only fucking 10 months?
you have zero chance, 100% fucked
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>>34900876
Prior medic here, I've seen a tattoo infection. I had to treat. It made me doing some digging. All tattoo ink has a possibility of just containing bacteria, every major brand and everything. I've only ran into one but its a real thing.
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>>34904805
My love broke up with her fiance after realizing he was so abusive and controlling he'd tell her what to do who to see what to wear. she got with me and i gave her a short leash to do basically whatever she wanted because i loved and trusted her and she ended up cheating when i let her go to a party with her girlfriends. There's no way to win.
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>>34904893
Son, the one girl who cheated on you once is not a representative of the entire female gender.
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>>34901036
This is the best answer in the thread.

Look, OP. She would have to really fucking love you to not get that tattoo. But she's going to get it. Do you understand what this means?
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>>34901036
>she's mentally ill if she wants to do an extremely normal and common thing
>>34905017
>yeah you should definitely turn this into a huge event where you try to emotionally manipulate her into doing what you want over this petty issue
in case anyone was wondering if getting relationship advice on 4chan was a good idea or not
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>>34905114
Turning point USA or whatever shilled here so heavily for so many years that we now have a bunch of unironic nu-Quakers that reeee at anything they seem remotely strange, including tattoos. This is the site's culture now. I wish I could leave entirely, but a couple boards keep me here.
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>>34900876
I made it clear to my girlfriend before we started dating that I find tattoos revolting and trashy and would never be faithful to any woman who had them. 10+ years later and she remains tattoo free and comments about how disgusting tattoos are.
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>>34900925
>her body her choice
It's so cute that you brainwashed puppets actually believe that. My woman belongs to me. That includes her body, mind, and soul.
Any woman who would ever believe otherwise is simply not worth my time, or anyone else's. Women are property.
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>>34900876
Only faggots and retards get tattoos.
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>>34905114
>extremely normal and common shit is ALWAYS ethical, moral, or acceptable
So, you admit you're ok with babies being raped and murdered. Good to know, degenerate. Stay the fuck away from my kids.
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>>34905114
>Ad Populum
kek
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>>34905357
This may be the most strawman post of all time. Literal cavemen had tattoos. It's not a big deal. Don't get them if you don't like them.
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>>34905380
People who get tattoos should all be violently raped and murdered by goats.
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>>34905454
For choosing to have ink under a patch of skin? Is it a religious thing for you, you think it's demonic possession or something?
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>>34905467
>copes
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>>34905491
Claiming they aren't bad falls under gaslighting.
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>>34905505
Why are they bad?
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I'm willing to bet the copers for tattoos are either women, or emasculated retarded men.
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>>34905509
>>34905560
>seething
Found the fat, fuck ugly hamplanet doodleniggers.
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>>34904105
Pretty much. Most of the white guys out working or have gotten married have tattoos. The neets are nearly 100% against tattoos. Its a good indicator of personal tolerance level.
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>>34905879
I wouldn't say most, especially white collar, but in blue collar it's more likely to come across a tattooed coworker than not.
>>34905865
Are you capable of engaging in actual discussion?
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>>34905230
bible says your body is a temple and not to decorate it with fucking graffiti. you probably got the covid shot, because it was "normal and common" and are now soulless just trying to tempt everyone else to fall with you lot.
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>>34905990
Ok so you are a religious fruitcake. I didn't grow up going to your churches, so I don't have your indoctrination. It's fucking ink. Chill.
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>>34906000
You don't have a soul anymore either. You and most of the world will be full cyborg slaves in a couple years when merging with super AI is the only choice left
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>>34905230
Liking tattoos and disliking tattoos are both subjective opinions.

Why do you privilege one above the other? If the woman has the right to adore tattoos then OP has the equal right to resent them. To claim otherwise is bigotry.

You are projecting your own puritanism onto the opposing side. Perhaps that's why you can't quit 4chan. You're drawn to who you think are closed-minded individuals, because they remind you of yourself.
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>>34900876
maybe just don't care about a silly decoration on her body lol.
if you actually love her you won't care and will try to support her in what makes her feel more like herself.
if you cant accept that she has a body and mind of her own, you dont love her. dont be in a relationship with someone you dont love.
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>>34900876
Realize you were groomed into tattoo obsession by your peers (4chan posters) just as much as your gf was groomed to want them. Realize everyone who posts here is a retarded faggot. My sister has tattoos she is much smarter and has accomplished way more than me.
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>>34905114
I just wonder how a degenerate like you looks if not like a terminal AIDS patient
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>>34905114
There are two options:

>A. It's not a big deal
Then it's reasonable to expect EITHER ONE of the sides to back down.

>B. It is a big deal
Then it's reasonable to end the relationship over this.


Both sides feel very strongly about this, so it obviously isn't option A.
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>>34905879
I work in medicine and none of the doctors have tattoos. It’s a nurse thing.

Nurses also gossip about each other and talk shit about their husbands.
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>>34907856
Maybe it is she who shouldn't care about a silly decoration on her body?
If she actually loved him, she would accept that this matters a lot to her partner. If she can't accept that he has a mind and body of his own, she doesn't love him. She shouldn't be in a relationship with someone she doesn't love.

Your argument is void, because it can be made to argue the exact opposite case.
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>>34900876
Just tell her that it would disappoint you.
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>>34904048
>It improved my perception of my body immensely.
I genuinely mean no offense, but surely you see how this could be a cause for concern about your emotional stability, right?
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>>34900876
maybe you can get her to show you the designs she picked out and try to convince her those designs specifically are shitty. might end badly if its something that she personally has designed, but if its some flash art you can maybe make her hate it
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>I don't like tattoos
And like flies, the ink skins come swarming with their tired and trite excuses to try to badger a person into accepting them.

OP, it's too late. Your girl is a shallow, compulsive novelty seeker. She wants something new, she wants to fit in, she values visual noise over elegance, prole culture over integral identity. She doesn't contemplate long term consequences, she'll rationalize afterwards a decision she can't undo.
Most of all, she doesn't value your opinion. It won't seem like a big deal now, but this decision is going to percolate throughout every facet of your relationship, and that scribble will exist as a constant, permanent visual reminder of that breakage.
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>>34906000
are you saying the body isn't a temple - religion irrespective
> It's fucking ink. Chill.
age is just a number, jail is just a room? no way jose
>>34907841
Purity is superior to impurity
>>34905114
normality is no sign of wisdom
>>34907883
there's a stereotype about nurses: this isn't helping the case for tattoos
>>34901156
said by anime poster
>>34902992
which people? the yakuza? slaves? prostitute of a pimp? prisoners?
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>>34908745
>>34906037
You guys are freaks. What, does the needle draw my soul out, one little tick at a time? Walk me through this. You throw around these ridiculous false equivalencies left and right, something you'd expect to see in like sixth grade debate.
>>34907978
I was fine with it before, now I have more appreciation for my back when I get out of the shower. So no, I don't see what you're getting at.
>>34908733
>Long term consequences
Like what? If it's not a face or a hand tattoo, it won't affect employment.
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>>34908822
that's what you're doing, name calling and such
i didn't make any assertation on soul
you didn't answer anything of mine
tattooing, grotesque body modifications, make you more of a freak than i can ever hope to be
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>>34908965
You equated getting permanent drawings to fucking kids, dude.
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>>34908822
>What, does the needle draw my soul out, one little tick at a time?
if you're talking about the tattoos, no, they just make you a sinner and marked by satan. That could've been forgiven in the past, you still had a soul. it's the covid shot where the illuminati put together their research over many years to isolate the god genes, the connection to your soul and destroy them with their "vaccine". And the key ingredient is that you were not tricked, you willingly chose to value the satanic world over your soul, after a year of clues. Your will is important in the transaction, so its theirs now. All the covid vaxxed are satan's now, they're not part of God's children anymore, they can't be saved even if they wanted to. But they don't. They will keep piling on the sins and becoming more demonic. They are NPCs able to be mindcontrolled and possessed for the purpose of trying to convert the last few stragglers they may know. And more upgrades will come and soon society will fall and AI will get more powerful than humanity and in the end in order to stay alive and ahead you'll take the choice that is offered to merge your mind with AI to become like God. But you will be a slave forever to the NWO and hunt the last of us down with your new powers to kill us. And then with no human souls left on earth the game's over and God will destroy the world. We are in the endtimes.
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>>34909010
>>>/grippysockjail/
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>>34908980
i similarized an act of trivialization to a platitudinous example of trivialization to highlight faulty minimizations. how about 'its just a flesh wound' like from monty python.
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>>34909019
Ok, fine, the body is a temple. Are all of your temples completely barren, with no decoration?
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tattoos used to symbolize rebellion. now almost everyone has them and having no tattoos is the rebellion.
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>>34909023
it would be like decorating the temple with graffiti
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>>34900876
maybe as long as they get a tattoo with your name on it idk i walk alone
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>>34901339
did mona lisa have tattoos
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>>34901036
As knowing a girl who recently got tattoos at the age of 27 I genuinely think there is a mentally ill impulsiveness behind it. Or they have body image issues Do you really want that long term?

Leading up to this did you let's her know that you like her body the way it is and her natural skin so that she doesn't feel insecure to want to change it?
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>>34900876
Do porn with her
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>Like what? If it's not a face or a hand tattoo, it won't affect employment

Like this. Enjoy the lymph node cancer
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>>34909058
theres another portrait under the mona lisa

OP is a baiting fag with no gf
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>>34900876
If you can find some before and after pictures of people with tattoos it may help her see why you don’t want her to get them.
Especially women will get the stupidest shit on earth.
Unfortunately I was in the exact same position as you in 2007.
It didn’t go well for me and she got a tattoo anyway.
Oh well to that relationship.



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