I'm 30 years old. An oldfag. I work a side job at a fast food place with dudes 16-25. None of them are interested in dating and just seem kind of dejected about life. How do I help them? Advice I could give?
They spend their days gooning to AI sexbots. They're scared of talking to prople, they're scared of making phones calls. Lost generation.
>>34904385You're asking advice.... About how to give advice? Get your interstellar ass out of here boy. And why the hell do you want to give advice to others, why do you care? If you want advice just ask, you don't have to weasel your way into it with excuses, what ails you friend?
>>34904385>None of them are interested in datingjuice isnt worth the squeeze. women demands are super high while porn comes in many flavors and doesnt demand anything.>dejected about lifewell, they are wasting their time in the worst possible type of job there is, while the easy access to information paints a rather bleak future.If you want to see happy zoomers who chase pussy, go to night clubs, not mcdonalds workers lounge.
>>34904398I cannot tell you how much it blew my mind when I found out my girlfriend was basically not a functioning adult. She wouldn’t call a phone company to remove a $20 monthly charge for insurance she didn’t really want. I did it for her, just thinking I was being helpful. But then it slowly revealed to me how bad she was. She wouldn’t call NOT write down a budget. She would not make a phone call to cancel her car insurance after I added her to mine for the discount. She would not take both of her kids to the grocery store by herself. She basically wouldn’t do anything you would expect a normal adult to do. I tried to work with her but ultimately I dumped her because I’m not doing everything.
>>34904385used to work fast food for a month and by far the best thing was knowing it was only going to be for a month. working there knowing you have no idea what else to do would probably suck the life out of me.maybe ask them about their goals in life? do they really wanna flip burgers and hand out trays for the rest of their lives?
>>34904385>I work a side job at a fast food place with dudes 16-25. None of them are interested in datingIt feels like women men now, so I'm trying to find happiness on my own.
>>34904892>It feels like women hate* men now, so I'm trying to find happiness on my own
>>34904385To me it's about being realistic about my dating opportunities. I stopped being a neet at 25 and I turned 26 2 and half weeks ago. I don't have anything that a woman would want and/or need in a man. I don't have a degree, or any useful/profitable skills, I'm lanky, I'm a black guy in a suburb, no license, awkward around young women, pretty much nothing that would make any good woman think I'm worth a damn. Logically there is no point in trying to put myself out there with my poor stats. I started going out a little more with a work buddy of mine and I did have a conversation with a woman my age, but I only got her linkedin while he got her instagram.I've also thought about coming off a little more casual with a customer I've spoken too a couple times, but I blew it because I was too afraid to do anything but keep it professional.
Don't worry about it. Society will completely collapse by 2030. You'll look back on all of this like boomers do the 1950s.
>>34905288What will that look like?
>>34904385Why are these young lads who feel disenfranchised from society (which young men very specifically are) going to listen to the old guy fast food worker about how to not fuck up their lives? I’m not saying that you have nothing to say but your position in life will likely indicate that you don’t to a bunch of young men. At a certain point, you have to have the “authority” to give certain pieces of advice. If you want to advise them on anything beyond what you’ve been able to accomplish yourself: get real. You might know the information but nobody can trust it. You could self research physics constantly but the only person who could truly believe your research without the proper authority attached to your name would be physicists prominent enough to otherwise verify your work anyway. Only people who have the capacity to already know what you do would be able to believe you.Especially if you come in there with some shit where you don’t even acknowledge society being specifically set up against them.
>>34905293People will choose death over life. Things get more expensive, wages don't actually rise, rampant gynocentric society is never satiated, endless boomer wars, stagnate birthrates, white people extinction, a handful of rich people extracting more and more resources as ordinary people get priced out. Gee what could be the result?
>>34904892>>34905000As far as I can tell, women actually do hate men now and it’s like nobody actually wants to talk about it. Incels bring it up all the time but they hate women anyway so what does it matter. Older men don’t want to admit they failed younger men. Young women both benefit from it and refuse to see it. Older women literally fought for these “opportunities” for their daughters so they’re the least sympathetic people out there. They know and they think you deserve it.I have never ever heard incel rhetoric uttered in real life. I now know less than 3 women who have been “radicalized” (unironically their own word) by feminism and act all shitty with men now. They’re always trying to float the topic of feminism like bait at family/friend gatherings and thankfully everyone knows not to take it. You’ll always get somebody telling you the fake gender war is just incels and femcels hating each other equally but my real life experiences and observations are far from that.
>>34905340I had a woman tell me to kms because I had the audacity to call her and thousands of other women out on their support for Lindsay Clancy. Someone who admitted to killing her own kids is being propped up as a victim simply because she was prescribed meds for depression. Meanwhile you never see men raising money for other men who have unalived their kids. Those same fathers would receive life without parole or worse simply for being men. When a woman does the exact same thing or worse? "No no see she was on all these le prescription meds and it was big pharma and doctors fault!" Women aren't held to the same standards as men. They'll never admit this though because it defeats the entire bs premise of them being the oppressed gender. Society is going into the shitter because of western womeme. Never forget it.
>>34904385>What is going on with young men?>None of them are interested in dating and just seem kind of dejected about life.Consequences of their forefathers not doing anything about foid harlotry and allowing themselves to get cucked, retroactively or otherwise.>How do I help them? Advice I could give?Patriarchy revolution maxxing but that means getting competent, discriminating against women, not showing any mercy to simps or other men who betray men, intense thot patrolling, etc.. A society that allows cheaters to get away scott free is a society that will eventually die out.
>>34904385I'm 24, so I might be able to shed some light on the subject. Right now the access to incorrect sensationalized information is so vast that men of my generation have created an isolating reaction to the world. >>34904398I would agree that Z is very similar to the lost and silent generation's of the 1900's to 1920's. Many are self sufficient and quiet. I was raised in the 2000's, my parents could barely afford to feed us. I was taught that taking fathers socks without holes from the laundry was a criminal offense and refusing to eat because you didn't like something meant you hated the cook. They would argue and I often cried, sometimes my father took it out on me. In my teens I thought if I was gone there would be no more problems.So I shut up, I went online. To a world that told be that everyone else was the problem. I enjoyed the past and learned to love my history. I thought I could dissociate into a "better" world when none of my families problems existed. But I found that people have been having these problems. They survived, I will too. I put my nose to the grindstone, did everything I was told would make me successful by the adults around me. I failed, not because I did something wrong, but because I wholeheartedly trusted them. Now I've started again, this time looking back to those who came before. I own a thriving business, saving for a house. After I own it in full I'll begin to look for someone to share the rest of my life with. For those looking for a woman.I've learned skin rots, beauty or sexual attractiveness will disappear as a water does in desert heat. Vapid love is rapidly lost. To those who find love at first sight, expect that love to be easily lost. I have been regaled time and time again from men who chose poorly "never get a wife son, they'll steal everything from you." Take your time, years if needed. Let no one rush you into a hasty mistake of unprotected sex. The next time you see young men, try to encourage them.
>>34905288two moar weeks, rite?
>>34905335Well more of the same, sounds like
>>34905473This is you
Teach history somehow
>>34904385>I work a side job at a fast food placeyou can't. Fix yourself first
>>34904385There's a shocking amount of normie women online who think men are bums and won't contribute much, so they would rather live alone. They are obviously dating for looks and not character, but that's not the point. Their attitude kills men's pride, and thus their willingness to date. The economy being shit is the biggest reason for this. It used to be that the average joe could support a house on a single income and then the woman would raise the kids and do most of the chores. Now the meta shifted to dual income thanks to feminism and corporations. Everyone is too burnt out to take care of kids and work full time. You want to give your coworkers emotional advice when in reality they need financial advice. The only way to escape this mess is to have a lot of money, which unfortunately capitulates to a lot of these whore's demands. Thankfully you can always date for character and not give someone that gift who doesn't deserve it.
I work with a bunch of dudes that are proud of their infidelity and brag about it. I wouldn't blame women for holding a contemptuous view of most men. The bar is in hell.
>>34905899This. Pride and morale matter even if people don’t want them to. Women have basically done everything but run an intense demoralization campaign for a while now. Now men are demoralized. You’d think that’d be “mission accomplished” for them but now young men are still at fault for all the problems around. Relationships are just you DOJ g the guy parts while she avoids all the girl parts because equality. You are expected to have constant responsibility with no accompanying authority. Not how it works. Responsibility comes with AT LEAST SOME authority or otherwise it gets ignored. Who the fuck wants a job without the full paycheck?
>>34904828A lot of women are like this unfortunately
>>34905752holy shit is this real
>>34904385>>34905000>It feels like women hate men now, so I'm trying to find happiness on my ownThis is my reason as well. It hurts because I genuinely like women. But how am I supposed to be in a relationship if I'm not loved too?
The next president in about 2 years will either be JD Vance or AOC. Both spell doom for the other gender.If AOC wins, men are done and its hot girl summer and a flood of illegals. If Vance wins, we get handmaids tale.
>>34906027Closet feminist vs overt feminist.OBARIDA>>34905654
Why are you even thinking about shit like this? Why is it any of your business what they do? Fucking annoying stalker shit, people are so weird nowadays.
>>34904385>dudes 16-25the women our age are absolutely dogshit, constant stress being caused on by prospects of future, like AI replacement, if you are poor you cannot really afford anything meaningful other than just surviving.
>>34906027AOC even dumped her white fiance in preparation for her run
>>34905733>I would agree that Z is very similar to the lost and silent generation's of the 1900's to 1920'sbiggest lie ever most are laziest generation more like
>>34905906You know multiple husbands under 25 cheating on their wives?
>>34906129>the women our age are absolutely dogshitimplying women haven't been absolute dogshit for over 60 years. our moms themselves were dogshit whores. lmao at your fucking cope.
>>34906141>lmao at your fucking cope.your mom nor mine doenst have nudes leaked to some men or the internet, knows how to cook, worked or stayed at home, didnt scroll tiktok or instagram all day, didnt abort, didnt hate white people and western civilization, didnt fuck chad only, doesnt have butterfly tattoos, didnt feel atractted or dated criminals or niggs, didnt read dark romance novels. i could go on. yes women in the past were shit, but nothing compared to now.
>>34906155>didnt fuck chad only, doesnt have butterfly tattoos, didnt feel atractted or dated criminals or niggs, didnt read dark romance novelsNot true >>didnt scroll tiktok or instagram all day,they would have if they could
>>34906162>Not trueso your mom did those things? mine didnt>they would have if they couldyes, but still they didnt. so whats the point?
>>34906168There is no point. Just meanitoning>didnt feel atractted or dated criminals or niggscant prove wasnt attracted to them
>>34906214>cant prove wasnt attracted to themWell, if they were, they hided it. Unlike today were they post on Instagram or Twitter about it
>>34906155exactly. I'm 38. they didn't have the internet, social media or endless chads to cycle through and cheat on us with. in fact, cheating was frowned upon. the most they might've had to dictate how they act the way tiktok now does, was magazines like cosmo and maybe tv/bands. one night stands were rare, they freaked out when kids were having sex younger and younger when i was in highschool. the society they were in was based on god, not satan. my mom is based and rightwing. also the time they were from was just better in every way. if my parents knew just a little of the online thoughts and reality we grew up with and know every day they would be horrified.
>>34906027>The next president in about 2 years will either be JD Vance or AOC.Both of them have zero shot.
>>34906266Then who's it gonna be, big man?
>>34904892>>34905000Yes and no. Most women (99.99999999%) are NPC cattle who just follow the social programming. So of course they’ll just hate men or “decentralize” men because that’s what boss babes are “supposed” to do. Even nice girls (my gf is a very good person) still have this anti-man sentiment around the edges.The caveat is that if they find you attractive, I promise you all of this hate goes out the window. There’s a reason there’s the stereotype that the most die hard feminists end up with absolute scumbag men because they get the tingles. Women are propaganda sponges. We might as well program them with what is best for society. But as it is now, we have no power at all so that will be for men of the far future
>>34905907Basically this. That nagging feeling most men feel in relationships is that exact thing about responsibility vs. authority. Women can choose not to do any of the traditional roles but a man has to maintain most of them or he's a bum. I'm not even talking about providing, necessarily. I'm talking about taking care of the house, protecting the house, fixing shit, protecting her and then on top of that the chores that they always want to split equally. I moved in with my gf a month ago and while it's great to be living on my own, it seems women have this communist mindset where absolutely everything has to be split equally (except traditional roles, of course). There's literally almost no incentive for a man to be in a relationship because even having kids isn't a guarantee and most women resent it even if they find a guy they want ones with. Back then at least you got some type of incentive as a guy to stay loyal and actually be a "real" men. Nowadays you get no kids, no house care, no femininity, trashy behavior, combativeness... you just get the pussy and cuddling, I guess, and some guys don't even get that. And any dude that knows ball will tell you that pussy and cuddling can get old quick. It's bleak but it is what it is. Aside from religion or having children, there's literally no upside to a monogamous relationship that I can think of, let alone marriage.
>>34906155Sure buddy. Your mom was definitely a chaste, pious virgin on her wedding night and she didn't get her back blown by other men prior to meeting you dad.
>>34906252>if my parents knew just a little of the online thoughts and reality we grew up with and know every day they would be horrified.this. i feel like they have no idea what kind of thoughts and shit we see and feel everyday. i had an ex that was an absolutely deranged woman, and i feel like if i tell my dad or my grandpa about everything she did or said, they would beat me up for being with her, or would say that i should have murdered her unironically. and to think every women is kinda like my ex is blackpilling
>>34906414>your mom nor mine doenst have nudes leaked to some men or the internet, knows how to cook, worked or stayed at home, didnt scroll tiktok or instagram all day, didnt abort, didnt hate white people and western civilization, didnt fuck chad only, doesnt have butterfly tattoos, didnt feel atractted or dated criminals or niggs, didnt read dark romance novels. i could go on. yes women in the past were shit, but nothing compared to now.>"""yes women in the past were shit, but nothing compared to now."""can you read or your iq too low? where did i say my mom or women in the past were a chaste virgin?
>>34906435"men" or whatever that means today, allowed women to be hoes, didn't care about loyalty & virginity, considered muh bodycount as a nothin burger as long as it stayed in the single digits or if the woman didn't bring it up, didn't resist foid only quotas, gibs, scholarships & shiett cuz u wanted to be in the good books of foids and outshine the chud incel who may've grumbled about blatant discrimination against men, and now all of you are acting suprised.>>34906440nta, but if u give up an inch by compromising on things like virginity, you end up giving up a lot more miles
>>34906451i know we shouldnt compromise on virginity, although i learned the hard way when i broke up with now my ex. however, with that being said, virginity is nearly nonexistant today, i think the only way to find a virgin would be the groom and date 14 y old girls(legal in my country). but virginity isnt the only issue, i think internet acess is unironically on the level, womens brain melt when they access tiktok or instagram.
>>34905000>>34905340>women hate men nowI mean, men oppressed women for centuries. Can you blame them?
>>34906466>people who were not you [allegedly] did bad things to people who were not me and so therefore you can’t blame me for being a cuntExhibit A
>>34906466>One of my ancestors hundreds of years ago was treated poorly at one time so that absolves me of all guilt and lets me abuse whomever I want despite being at the top of the social pyramid in current yearThis is the logic that niggers use.
It's just that women are a lot more vocal & open with their hideousness. Women back then were hideous as well but kept it a secret. Besides, many of the laws in the West have protected cheating, degenerate women from getting murdered, so genes & culture surrounding foid harlotry(and male cuckery) was bound to rise in the due course of time and manifest to what all of us are seeing today.
>>34904385No point in dating. Why bother with women when they're expensive and you have to work all day? When I'm done with work I go home and watch TV or whatever else. I don't have time or energy to do anything else and I'm not getting an app or Discord. AI bots work fine
>>34906466Yes but many prefer the oppression. And women are still oppressed, but just by the capitalist class.
>>34906466>men oppressed womenBy keeping them in the kitchen instead of the battlefields, and providing for them with a house, money and protection.
Avg seethercel fate itt:You'll die sad, poor, bitter, alone, cucked and childless and you won't do anything about it.Women can easily get pregnant & stay as single moms if they chose to before 30 or even 40; all using chad's sperm that he shags in these women or donates to his local cryo bank, while majority of men will not have a biological legacy and of the lucky few of you who do; it will be so with a whore making thereby making your children forever known as that of a whore and a cuckold. Make your peace with the fact that the Chad-Foid duopoly won and you lost, miserably & painfully
>>34906624What kind of gay cuck fantasy is this?Can you guys not do this on your own fetish sites kek?
>>34906638it's a fact retard. what are you going to do? revolt? in this hyper surveillance state? you'll get killed by the military who themselves are incentivized to keep you down and have it that way for times to come.>foreign powers will fund muh revoltLMAO.
>>34905293Quality of life improves after mass death eventsThink black death, 30 years war or world warsEconomic collapse or ww3 will be the likeliest cause starting with exports to turd world cut off and genocide following after. Most first worlds will be suicide from inability to cope with lowering standards and basements no longer being an optionItll give people a reality check after where things will improve with survivors and limiting the population to the more resilient.I dont think anything will happen until they've confirmed the final boomer death and then they will pull the economic plugSince boomers own 50% of the wealth compared to silent millennial X alpha and z, the current plan is avoiding that until they can extract as much boomer wealth from the inheritors before they kick the bucket. A slow death and exploiting the collapse until you wake back to ancestral serfdom. The good ending is waking up a happy peasantThe longer it takes before reality check (collapse) the more room there is to exploit any future wealth you have from accumulating. The depression has already been held off since 2008 by taxing you in the future with inflation
>>34906785Western Europe throughout it's history has always been cucked af thoughbeit. Even Arabs and other orientals who'd visited Europe were shocked at European men's proclivity to be simps & cucks. Even uber feminists don't deny this. Feminism could've originated only in a place like Europe because only European men would've tolerated as they never kept a tight leash on their women. They're paying the price for their mistakes dearly today.https://www.ggd.world/p/men-are-slaves-to-the-women-hereOne of the descriptions of Rifa’a Rafi’ al-Tahtawi, a young Egyptian cleric, sent to Paris from 1826 to 31 on Parisian men:>“Balls always include men and women… it is mainly the women that sit down, and no man will ever sit down before all women have found a place; if a woman joins a company and there is no seat available, then one of the men will get up and offer her his seat. Conversely, a woman does not get up to give up her seat”>“the men are slaves to the women here, and under their command, irrespective of whether they are pretty or not”; they “do not have a bad opinion of women, despite their many faults”.>In justification, he cites Arab poetry: “be disobedient to women.. The man who hands women his halter will not prevail/ They prevent him from developing many of his virtues… Always think the worst of women” (Al-Tahtawi, 178).Euro men and simping go hand in hand.
>>34906838>Muhammad is incapable of comprehending women not being treated like livestock
>>34906841>whore wants to be worshipped as a goddess lel
all the mental stress people put on me manifests in weird ways. what is it people even want?
>>34906852All women are queens
>>34906132I have worked hard, studied went above and beyond my peers in education and in service. I've owned two businesses, serve my community and employ all I can. I have had a rod puncture my hands while working my machines and my back crushed my delivering thousands of garments. After learning how to profit and what to sell I still work earnestly. My discovery was that the elderly of the American public (the ones with the largest amount of capital mind you) wanted convenience and lower prices. Even when I have worked since I was a teen, spanning all sorts of jobs I am forced to either live with my parents or rent. Buying a house is more difficult than it was in the 1900's to 1920's. You believe the media's interpretation of youthfulness rather than actually having experienced it. I'd argue you perception is heavily wapred.Funnily enough the exact same was parroted to the silent and lost generations:>“We defy anyone who goes about with his eyes open to deny that there is, as never before, an attitude on the part of young folk which is best described as grossly thoughtless, rude, and utterly selfish.” The Conduct of Young People, Hull Daily Mail 1925
>>34906132unc if you were a friendless bullied incel you would have shot yourself in the head already. you gen x and boomer pansies are fucking soft
>>34904385>How do I help them?Get them a better job lol
>>34906451>just find a unicorn bro
>>34906882all women are whores who deserve to be raped
>>34906624>Women can easily get pregnantWhat is the point if they cannot produce a chad? An individual's genetic makeup is a combination of its ancestor's. I'll illustrate something for you. The Alpha represents the superior minority and the Beta represents the inferior majority. Take a look:Alpha Male * Alpha Female = Alpha Male / Alpha FemaleAlpha Male * Beta Female = Beta Male / Beta FemaleBeta Male * Alpha Female = Beta Male / Beta FemaleBeta Male * Beta Female = Beta Male / Beta FemaleThis dynamic taken to its logical extreme leads to inbreeding as only one Alpha remains in the end. Most of today's Alphas are tomorrow's Betas. You might be able to pass on your genes to the next generation, but are you True Adam? If not, I think you are essentially the same as some geomaxxer "ascending" in the third world — destined for extinction.
>>34904385>Advice I could give?passports
>>34907910copethere is only one winner and his name is Adam
>>34904828>her kids
>>34906354>The caveat is that if they find you attractive, I promise you all of this hate goes out the window.Too bad at this point women don't find 99.99999999% of men attractive.
>>34907910He's right though, even if I was in a position to have kids I would be terrified to do it because I wouldn't want them grow up in a world of hypergamy where my son would have even less of a chance than I did and my daughter is just a number in Chad's body count before she ages out into a life of loneliness.
>>34904385The men are unambitious losers and the women are narcissistic bitches with unreasonable standards.
>>34904828>her kidsBro...
>>34906275Gavin Newsome - and it will be Chad Gavin vs Incel Vance
>>34906229nah they talked about it to their friends tale as old as time
>>34906588true in 1950s womens happiness was at its peak according to TikTok and according to TikTok they also got they ahh beat every day
>>34906638if it's true then why don't you take over? Lol cope as usual from israeli
>>34906466>I mean, men oppressed women for centuries. Can you blame them?Yes, zoomettes never experienced that. I'm not over here seething at Swedes for oppressing my people hundreds of years ago.
>>34904385Have women always hated us? Are there accounts of this from antiquity?
>>34908999The entire feminist mythos for their supposed oppression is bizarre as fuck to begin with. You can read old books and see that women weren’t constantly slapped in the mouth for speaking out of turn. Even books written by women show how much that mythos wasn’t true and those books written by women of the past without a high opinion of men were still not as hateful as young ladies today (who are apparently past that point of oppression)The handmaiden’s tale was never real but they act like it was. Literally nobody is threatening them with the handmaiden’s tale but they act like somebody is.It all just makes no fucking sense.
>>34904385There's nothing that can be done. Over 56% of the zoomers are projected to die childless and unmarried. One third of Gen Z has already been aborted, and over half will not breed. They are being filtered out and only the mentally and genetically fit among them will procreate.
>>34909007>only the mentally and genetically fit among them will procreate.Good. I wish that happened more with all the previous generations as well.
>>34907941>Too bad at this point women don't find 99.99999999% of men attractive.Except that's not true, that's just a cope you made up and then started to actually believe.>>>34907963Yeah, most likely Gavin. I'd expect Vance (and AOC) to be primaried out and not even make it that far.
>>34907908It is the variety of women themselves that provide the necessary genetic diversity. Sorry lad, but chads & foids will breed and you twats will do nothing but seethe
>>34909038Except it is true, have you actually tried dating?
>>34909177What happens after an entire generation is born to the same father?
>>34909250Yes I have an furthermore I've been quite successful.So either I'm part of that 0.0000001% (which seems statistically unlikely, by definition) or maybe you're just a hysterical whining and coping faggot.I mean I'm flattered if you think I'm the former, but if I were a betting man the latter scenario is looking a bit more likely.
>>34904385Of course they're dejected about life. They're aware of the fact that a grown ass 30 year old man needs to work a side job at a fast food place to make ends meet. That they'll probably end up like you or worse.
>>34909757There is sufficient variety even within chads. You don't have to worry about something that is none of your business. Now, off you go and snap your neck off like a good boy
>>34909867Why would women settle for anything less than number 1?
>>34909878Things get a lot more blurry at the top and that's where subjective taste starts taking more precedence over looks. That's where things like personality, character, etc., begin to play a role. Besides, chads themselves have to cover each other's back so that you cunning incels don't do something sneaky.
>>34909757>>34909878I love the steady escalation of hysteria on display here. I remember like 10 years ago I would always read this "80/20" stuff from incels online which was already silly enough. Now we've gone up to either only the top 0.00001% of men or even literally just one individual super duper terachad out there has literally all the women and everyone else is doomed to inceldom.
>>34909891You're suggesting that physical attraction is subjective and not the only factor? Interesting...
>>34909911It's more like a preliminary filter. You've cross a certain threshold to even be considered as worthy.
>>34909828>>34909906>I was successful>10 years agoHave you considered that the steady escalation isn't hysteria but something that actually happened?
>>34909943Except I didn't say I was only successful 10 years ago, in fact I'm more successful now than I was then.So no, I don't think it's something that actually happened. I think it's festering mental illness online that's only been getting worse.
>>34909953I don't believe you. I think you're settling for girls way below your league so you can feel like a player.
>>34909965>I don't believe you.That's nice, don't care what you believe.>I think you're settling for girls way below your leagueQuite the opposite actually, though again I'm flattered you give me so much credit. I'm actually pretty picky all things considered.I did though, last year, date a girl who was way below my league and I regret it. One of the worst gfs I've ever had. Vapid, selfish, you name it. Now I'm with a girl who is way nicer, way smarter, AND way hotter, whose company I actually really enjoy. Seethe about it.>so you can feel like a player.Have zero desire for this and never did, in fact I hate hurting people (even inadvertently) so I would rather distance myself from someone than put them through it.
>>34909975You hate hurting women.You will actively try to drive men you view as lesser to suicide.
>>34909891copeit's over for sub-10's
>>34909983Me:>it's not nearly as bad as you make it seem>you guys will be fine if you actually try and get out of your own wayYou:>OMG STOP MAKING MEN WANT TO KILL THEMSELVES
>>34909975I really don't think someone who needs to show off to the lowest of the low is actually that high up on the pole. If your gf was that good you wouldn't need to compare yourself to people who can't even get a gf to feel better about yourself.
>>34910000>if you actually tryThere it is.If I didn't actually try I would still be living in the delusion hope that I will actually be fine.
>>34909990Cope moar. It's only over for the bottom 80-90% men.Those at the lower end of the top may not necessarily be swimming in pussy, but they atleast aren't dry.
>>34910014>It's only over for the bottom 80-90% men.>only
>>34910007>If your gf was that good you wouldn't need to compare yourself to people who can't even get a gf to feel better about yourself.And did I bring up who I was dating, or did you anon?You made this post >>34909965 only like 20 minutes ago anon, so you shouldn't have to think too hard about this. It literally just happened.
>>34910012>if I didn't actually tryOh? What have you tried?>>34910007>show off to the lowest of the lowAnd I forgot before, maybe the fact you think of yourself as "the lowest of the low" is a big part of your problem anon.
>>34910014>but atleastcope terminology
>>34910045You're the expert, what do you think I HAVEN'T tried?
>>34910052Honestly I get the impression you haven't tried much of anything, at least not very effectively.It's up to you to prove me wrong on that anon, not the other way around.
>>34910055I get the feeling you don't want to be specific and actually say it because you know you'll be wrong.If you actually think I haven't tried anything you would have the guts to name one of ANYTHING.
>>34910063Have you tried, at the very least, not being a bitter neurotic sperg around women, thereby drying them up faster than the Sahara?Because you certainly haven't tried that just while posting in this thread.
>>34910041Why does it matter? You came into this thread to epicly own le incels regardless.
>>34910067I wish getting girls was as easy as me being right about you.
>>34904385>How do I help them?You can't. Their life sucks, and you yourself can't change that. You can at be best understanding about it, but that's about it.
>>34910055By trying he means he confessed to his high school crush when he was 15, got rejected and now thinks no woman will ever want him
>>34910071>what does it matter?>I mean sure I accused you of doing a thing that you didn't actually do, but that doesn't even matter!Actually I come here to give advice and help you retards out, but you can see the thanks I'll get. Truly no good deed goes unpunished, kek.>>34910073You have yet to be right about anything.
>>34910080bzzt wrong!
>>34910080>By trying he means he confessed to his high school crush when he was 15,The funny thing is, I bet you're giving him way too much credit here if anything.
>>34910082>You have yet to be right about anything.I was right that you can't name a specific thing I haven't tried, and no your passive aggressive seething about my attitude in a 4chan thread doesn't count.
>>34910082Your advice so far has been>it's not that bad (at least for me)>have you actually tried (no I won't tell you what to try)>i'm better than youReally helpful stuff. Also this must be your first day on /adv/ if you think this shit isn't shit we have heard a million times before.
Why do people who want to give advice to incels always come at it from the point of view of someone who is an adversary? I've never seen anyone actually approach incels with advice from a point of sympathy or understanding, which makes me think there can't possibly be ex-incels who made it and understand what incels are going through and how to fix it. You're either an incel for life or you're not an incel for life and there's no way to cross over, which is a very blackpilling thought.
>>34906882if she breathes SHE'S A THOT
>>34904385It’s because men in their 30s are stealing our women in mass. Age gaps are more accepted then ever. That’s why millennial women whine so much about it
>>34904385We are kinda fed up with women's nonsense OP. Zoomer guys are dropping out of dating and focusing on building wealth and capital so that when we reach 30+ we can at least enjoy our riches.
>>34906624>Cucked and childlessSaar, I...
>>34905943Why?
>>34906275Me :3
So I'm not in your age bracket (26). Personally, I got dumped after 6 years right before proposing, losing out on the opportunity for a "married my first love" story. And that relationship cannot be matched.That makes me a leftover man, and my options are dating dumbass zoomer girls or leftover women. All the women I am interested in are taken, and what options I have are terrible. I hold myself to a higher standard.So I remain alone. I'm gearing up for a manwhore-period soon, just need to finish moving.
>>34907941I’m the anon you replied to, that’s not true. The reality is a bit more complex than that. Attraction doesn’t work the same way with women as it does with men, at all. For whatever reason you’re taking what women say seriously (lol) and letting them dog you on what they supposedly want men to be. They wouldn’t know water from piss if you sprayed it on them so why do you expect them to understand attraction dynamics? It’s all a shit test, the same one your dad and grandpa failed and the reason we’re in this feminist shithole now. Literally don’t listen to women, walk like you’re a 10/10 and you’ll at least have some winning chance.
>>34910330Not everyone can be in the top 10% of wealth accumulators. The higher the net worth of the top 10% goes, the harder you are expected to work to achieve such a status. And if all you can attract is a worthless hold-digging whore, what the fuck do you as a single man need all that money for? Weed and vidya only cost so much.
>>34910107Getting sexual validation from women boosts a guy's ego so high that when he sees a struggling brother all he can think is "boo hoo, sucks to be you"
Literally almost all of my experiences with women in regards to relationships have been negative. Why should I even bother anymore? The last woman who ghosted me left such a pit in my soul I don’t think I’ll ever bother again
>>34910832Most empathetic gender btw.
>>34910803>>34910330What jobs are you guys even getting? Wealth accumulators...you're never gonna get rich working at mcdonalds, You think just because you've given up on dating, magically jobs are going to start opening up for you, or that it matters the free time you have to focus on it now, when no one's really hiring?In fact you have a better chance to find a job if you have a gf, mostly because she was likely hired somewhere simply for being pretty enough the boss wants to fuck her, and will probably advance up the ladder faster than men because DEI is still alive and well, and she can put in a good word for her bf, or even hire him herself when she becomes HR. And if not her, she knows a ton of others who might be able to help you.
>>34910912The script for the social fabric has absolutely flipped. You know those stories about male “rulers” who were actually just proxies for their wives who made all the decisions? My wife works on some pretty important stuff that I can’t really even talk about here. I got her that position through another woman in my family. You’d be shocked (or maybe not shocked) at how much of her writing, professional strategy, and general preparation is just me. I am male, however, so it is clearly not as easy for me to move through professional circles because I’m not constantly in “the girl club”. We truly make more money this way than me spending my time on some other job.
>>34910774You're kinda agreeing with me here. Women don't all want the same thing but they have a very specific "type" (usually based off of some celebrity that they're obsessed with) and if you don't meet the type 100% they'll lose all interest. This is why "icks" exist, it's just an indicator that you aren't their perfect man, and if you're not the perfect man they dreamed of, you're out. Men will compromise if a girl isn't a exactly what they're looking for, women will not. That's why 99.99999999% of men are out.
>>34910107im an incel and i still get laid once to twice a year, i just fucking hate all women because they're retarded and i can't fuck the hot ones. they're not worth it anymore
>>34911059Nope, it's not logical at all. One day they think that weird guy is kinda cute, the next day he combs his hair differently and tries to ask her out and holy shit ick get away from me you creep. Women love building up your hopes and then yanking the rug out from under you. It's a power play, it makes them feel confident and in charge. Same with responding to a polite advance with rudeness. It's female empowerment! Old feminist hags brainwash sweet young girls into becoming nasty cold-hearted bitches.
>>34911059>That's why 99.99999999% of men are out.And yet, it's not only 0.0000001% of men who have a woman. Your numbers don't add up anon.
>>34911075>and i can't fuck the hot onesAnd why should you be able to fuck the hot ones?Are YOU hot anon?
>>34910946Supposedly some out of work office guy was struggling to get any job offers so he made an exact copy of his resume and changed the name to a girls name and he had legit interview requests within a few days. It's bullshit until I see the pics or footage or whatever but it's entirely plausible.
>>34911082It seems like you’re slinging your own bitterness preemptively. That guy didn’t say he thinks he’s entitled to sex with them, he said he’s pissed that he can’t. He’s perfectly aware that he can’t lmfaoPeople can be pissed off they weren’t born rich and that’s totally reasonable too. It would be a better hand to be dealt
>>34911085I’ve never seen anything like that and I have worked some professional jobs myself. I’m not claiming to be some NEET loser who rules some shit like a secret emperor. I am actually good at what she does and she is an effective complimentary piece for me to do it. It’s so much less effective for me to be the face of the work it’s unreal. I absolutely do not look down on her for this situation. It’s not her fault and we bring in a truly good amount of money this way. I get to work from home at all times because I’m technically nobodySometimes I chuckle a little as I’m falling asleep at night that I actually do some pretty important shit that actually does effect things but I have no title because male.
>>34911087>That guy didn’t say he thinks he’s entitled to sex with them, he said he’s pissed that he can’tTo me there's no difference. If he acknowledges he's not entitled to them, what's there to be pissed about? He hasn't been wronged, there's no injustice, he's right where he's supposed to be.>People can be pissed off they weren’t born rich and that’s totally reasonable too.Reasonable? Maybe, maybe not. But either way, it doesn't help anything, or make them any closer to being rich themselves now does it?
>>34911097>to me there’s no difference “To me” adds nothing to an argument other than making room for you to talk about your dumb feelings. They are different things because they can be differentiated as different things. Fucking cry about it but at least try to make sense as you do.To me you are a retard. See how much that means?
>>34911075>im an incel and i still get laid once to twice a year
>>34911100What makes you think I'm here to have an "argument" anon? I'm here to call you a faggot and the guy you're caping for a delusional incel, and move on. There's no "argument" to be had here.
>>34911111The fact that you are having an argument with me right now makes me know you’re here to argue. You could have not replied but you were compelled to do so because… we are arguing.
>>34911114>They are different things because they can be differentiated as different things>NO NOT LIKE THAT
>>34911127I thought you weren’t here to argue
>>34911114>be woman>lose argument>”why are you trying to argue with me? I was never trying to do that.”Literally every time in every relationship.
Thread autism has shot through the roof on the last couple posts, and it was pretty high to begin with.
>>34911127>arguing about whether or not you're arguing wew lad
>>34911155Anon if you say the sky is green and I come along and say uh no, it's blue actually, we are not having an "argument". I'm stating a simple fact, and moving on.To even call the interaction an "argument" gives your position far more credence than it actually deserves. It is intentionally misleading abuse of language.
>>34911188You didn’t state a bunch of facts, retard. You literally led with “to me”, indicating it was your opinions.And you are still arguing. You have to be trolling at this point.
>>34911188Arguments still include the statements of fact when you’re using them as a disagreement with someone else. Just shut the fuck up. You lost.
>>34911188>arguing about whether or not you're arguing about whether or not you're arguingwewwer ladder
>>34904385>How do I help them?Change the world.They see the world as shit because it is shit.Either fix it or sell them on some delusion.
>>34911059How am I agreeing with you if my point is almost the exact opposite of yours? Again, you’re falling for women shit. Taking any sort of “ick” seriously is your own fault for actually listening to a woman (again lol).I’m not saying icks don’t exist, I’m just saying that 99% of the icks you’ve heard are just women saying dumb shit when a camera is shoved on their face or they are behind a keyboard. It’s the same thing I said before. It’s social programming and women are reinforcing that because it’s in their DNA to just parrot what the majority are saying. Attention is crack to them, so you actually acknowledging their ick is feeding into their frame. Do you think the ick matters for the degenerate DJ or the random dude that got a girl at a party? Or even the normal dude that got a girlfriend? The ick is a collective test to see if men roll over and take it.Don’t take it from me, try it yourself. Whether you want a girl or you just want to be chilling on your own, stop caring what women think (except your mom and grandma, if you got a good relationship with them). Stop caring AT ALL. Do not take them seriously. Not in an overt, asshole way but genuinely in every fiber of your being just realize they have no power over you. They’ll love you for it and any ick that might’ve existed will be replaced with “why isn’t this guy bending over backwards for me?”
>>34905943current gf is sort of a retard too, only gf who was ever competent was one ex but she was a bpd cunt. Current gf though currently is unemployed, cannot hold down a job without getting fired, gets welfare and is looking for a job, does get interviews to be fair but is incapable of keeping her apartment clean. She is also for some reason incapable of eating cleanly and exercising and spends most of her time ''resting'' which is beginning to irritate me. I dont live with her but her frivolous spending on fast food, door dash, refusal to cook or clean her own apartment with very limited funds (because she cannot fathom saving enough for an emergency fund) is unironically giving me the ''ick''. I do not know how they live like this, I am the complete polar opposite of all of this.
>>34906155Is somebody going to tell him?
>>34911075oh but "incel", you CAN fuck the hot ones, you just have to pay for them. you're not an incel in the slightest btw. get outta here you sexhaver go watch sports or get drunk and wrestle your bros to prove whos stronger or something
