>>34940022
Meetup? As a heads up, all the speed dating events on there are scams.

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How do I move on legal schoolgirls? 16+ is legal here, and I'm sure they're easy pickings, but I just don't know how to get in that situation with them.
Anyone got any experience? I'm pretty sure just hanging around the school gates at home time has a low success rate.

>>34940226
How old are you?

>>34940318
39

>>34940318
I'm 29, the other guy is a retard pretending to be me.

>>34940226
>>34940385
I'm sorry man but you really shouldn't. What do you think you're going to talk about? Her algebra homework?

>>34940385
Oh yeah. I'm the retard.
You poocel.

im in Europe and i havent seen a single fat guy with a gf. im convinced if you get lean its very easy to get a gf.

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Additional videos to watch and reflect.

Good starter videos
>Why We Shouldn't Leave Incels Behind
https://youtu.be/xHmDJyVT3g0?si=GEUm2HAZ-I6QpLgY
>How To Get A Girlfriend
https://youtu.be/05tG47pv1vM?si=x6Ngo0hvj7M9L1wn
>Dr. K Breaks Down The Science of Flirting
https://www.youtube.com/live/0k3YUL3iQds?si=OvrpJ6ZNK0je7Ybq
>How To ACTUALLY Find The Right Person For You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSfuHwENzXM
>Why Your Tinder Match Isn't Going To Date You
https://youtu.be/KJX-8C7OHmw?si=5HcbRpJbUa7PE-gO

More for Men
>Why You Should NEVER Confess Your Love
https://youtu.be/xHkcIRZa6lo?si=zGxmCIXyHEAbsXdQ
>Can Men & Women Be Friends?
https://youtu.be/OafdDpFjOIg?si=O4SIMEOF5EzBFKN7
>The Interesting Truth About What Women Need Today & How To Get What YOU Want!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2mD6_g3xpk
>5 Harsh Realities About Women | Every Man MUST Face Alone!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkhLybpZKzI

More for women
>10 Brutal Dating Tips for Women That Women Need to Hear | And Men Need to Share!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCMKgpl7HW4
>Why You're The Least Valuable Friend
https://youtu.be/ql5sWIEAcFw?si=lYx6LPTx8xaaS7OM
>Why Women Can't Find A Soulmate
https://youtu.be/58kdlgKvEU0?si=ZskCXZLFY1iMmbpF
>A Perspective on Female Loneliness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbGZaGzWdfs
Extras
>How Your Brain Perceives Love When You Have Autism
https://youtu.be/KlSsI2CKYaQ?si=1XYAjx97G9oeNeS_
>Men Are Getting This Totally Wrong About Being A Simp or Nice Guy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn-U2Sx4spo
>The Addiction Women Can't Talk About
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDv-bX7Pegg
>Your Standards Are Way Higher Than They Should Be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diIc5e2RLKI
>"Why Women Deserve Less": Myron Gaines Loves Projection & Bad Math
https://youtu.be/u6QcjXub8fo?si=6TaYexKVRHBncmOm
>Why 40% Of Young Men Need Erectile Retraining
https://youtu.be/2MwTDoT8q_A?si=C-7aytPOjXwgOuIX

>>34940512
I've been watching his videos a lot recently and he has probably some of the best advice for 4channers I've ever seen. It sucks that the excessive usage of wojaks and gamer speech can repel people who could really use his perspective/advice.

>>34940559
Which is funny because they only talk in memes and wojacks. If anything they understand exactly what he's saying and realize that it's easier too live on the internet than it is to grow up, which is even funnier because it would make their lives even easier if they did grow up.

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Look anon, maybe the reason why God prevented you from having that hot chick to be in a relationship with you is probably because God knew it would make you distance yourself from him and yourself making you into some monster instead of the decent human being you are. God was trying to protect you and he knows that if you weren't in the shape you were, you could be used and abused by both men and women if he wasn't careful. Perhaps the rejection was for the best anon.

>Rejected by hot chick
>knew it would make you distance yourself from her and yourself making you into some monster instead of the decent human being you are
What psycho bitch are you talking about? Your mom?

>>34940699
God knew it would make you distance yourself from him and yourself making you into some monster instead of the decent human being you are

That's about having humility.

To the dude who went on a speed dating event from the last thread:

These kind of events are never worth it dude. Don't be too hard on yourself because you're at least trying to do something so it makes you better than most.
You have to socialize even if it's just a bit. It's the best way to meet potential dates. Dating apps have their issues but I wouldn't discard them completely. Even I got some Tinder dates with attractive chicks despite being short. It works well if you live in the city.

Don't give up brother.

>>34941133
Yeah. I went to a cosplay night at a local club over the weekend and boy did I feel so fucking out of place and awkward. Not even the booze made me loosen up of my anxiety and insecurities, if anything it made it worse.

Still, shit was better than sitting at home moping about. I'm sure if I go a few more times maybe something will happen, either I pick someone up or I finally snap and do something else.

>>34941257
>I went to a cosplay night at a local club over the weekend
How'd you find it? That sounds like my kind of night.

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>>34940512
Could not link the videos with the tracking part?

>>34941292
https://sexynerds.net/

they do events all over the USA and expanding through the UK.

>>34941293
i honestly had no idea about this. I can change it if you don't like it. Or just search the names on youtube as well.

I find that woman above 35 pursue me like i pursue those below 25
But they still behave female like once you show interest back
Some are not so delusional and let you bang them no questions ased
but others try to make you dine wine and are more delusional thinking i would date them

Met a girl who's really hot, doesn't care about my lack of experience (rare considering my age), and has a high sex drive
But I can't shake this lack of respect for her. Recently when we meet I kind of wish she would stop talking and I feel terrible about it
Am I retarded for thinking I should try to find someone more interesting? I have this problem with finding friends too, it's very rare that I find someone who I don't kind of look down on
Maybe I'm too critical of everyone (but women in particular)
I feel like this should be ideal but I'm almost considering ending it it's just stressful somehow

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Reminder that she expects you to hit on her.

Beautiful women don't fuck cowards.

>>34941577
doesn't sound like it's her problem
sounds like it's you who's the problem
stay with her until she actually does something worth breaking up with
if you constantly look down on peple leaving her won't fix that part of you
it will only reinforce it

and in the future that will leave you bitter and alone

>>34941705
but i'm afraid

>>34941713
Then do it afraid anon

The first few are really gonna suck but if you power through it and stay positive you'll learn to enjoy the process, and you'll eventually miss the times when you were a scared newbie

>>34941705
>get girls showing interest in me all the time
>I'm just looking for future wife and don't care about all the hooking-up stuff so not going to take up the offer unless its a specific kind of girl I see a future with
>whenever I ask a girl I'm interested in out, she rejects me
What a cruel life this is. The kind of girls I'm interested in always tend to be more reserved and prudish I guess and they never really date much, which is the same as me. In the last couple years I've decided its time to be proactive but I get the same results as when I was to shy to be forward.

Is every man's fate just to have to accept the next girl who comes along throwing herself at him and he is sort of ok with her, so he ends up having a just about tolerable married life to a women he never really admires or respects?

>>34941732
I always freeze up and can't think, move, or speak

You have to be really fucking on point to get girls so just relax and recognize it will take time.
If you’re a late bloomer, late to the game or just have many failed attempts just calm down. Chill out. You need really tight game to get girls. You can’t expect to just go from having zero girls to getting girls or even one girl quickly. EVEN IF YOU LOOK GOOD as soon as the girl gets A WHIFF of you being desperate or not already having sex she will RUN. Yes even if you look the part if you do one small thing that indicates you don’t already “get it” as in you are already some cool guy that is getting laid she will instinctively get “the ick” and you may never hear from her again. That’s just the reality and ITS OKAY. We have to understand how this shit works without making a big deal out of it. Especially if you are a late bloomer you have to learn all this shit and it’s not going to happen overnight but if you keep moving in the right direction you will get it. Don’t take this so seriously, even though your life may be kindve shitty atm just see it as a neutral thing. It’s way easier to move towards what you want when you just see things as neutral whether they are good or bad. You said something awkward to a girl, it’s okay. She was mean to you, it’s okay. She liked you, it’s okay. This is really the only way forward. Don’t take any of this personally because it literally has nothing to do with you. You didn’t pick the circumstances you were born into, your family, any of the experiences that even shaped you. So when you get rejected or have awkward moments it’s not because YOU are bad, it’s literally just the way you came across or something about your energy or even something completely unrelated. You’re not a bad person because you have to learn how to attract girls. It’s just learning something new. Trust me these girls will forget about you so fast, you can even get rejected by a girl and the next day she could be yours!

>>34941840
This is actually your nervous system trying to keep you safe lol. It’s your fight/flight and in this case freeze response. Essentially your body sees you trying to mate with her as a threat and literally fears something like a more dominant male coming and bashing your head in if you are caught with her. So this relates to how your brain sees your social status. You need to carry yourself with more presence and start moving like you belong where you are. I’d say you need to at least have some women interested in you and to do this you will need to modify your behavior. You will need to follow your desires more, I want to say this so I said this, I wanted to do this so I did this, I wanted to go here so I did. If you learn to follow your impulses and desires then women will start getting attracted. If you are looking to others for approval, validation, getting scared of what people are thinking you will have a lot of trouble approaching a girl. I’d get on dating apps or something to boost your confidence when you see other women ‘picking’ you.

>>34941788
>Is every man's fate just to have to accept the next girl who comes along throwing herself at him and he is sort of ok with her, so he ends up having a just about tolerable married life to a women he never really admires or respects?

I relate to this a lot. It’s very black and white for me. I’m attracted to people that I admire so much that I feel unworthy of them. Sometimes when I get to know them better this image I have of them kind of shatters and I realise it was always delusion from my part, after which I lose all attraction and interest. I usually despise the girls who pursue me and see them as beneath me (and I’m not wrong about this). They’re fat, ugly, stupid or some combination of the three, and make it way too obvious that they like me (don’t fucking touch me bitch). It usually grosses me out. I’ve concluded that I need to be the one pursuing but I’m mentally fucked up and have been too much of a coward so far. I’m turning 28 (khhv) soon so I really need to get my shit together but progress has been slow so far… I could have gotten laid with some pig about a hundred times but never did so. Lately I’ve been considering hiring an escort or something to try and force myself out of this limbo but it’s a desperate measure and I just can’t really tell if it’s a good idea or not

>>34941788
>>34942212
> >Is every man's fate just to have to accept the next girl who comes along throwing herself at him and he is sort of ok with her, so he ends up having a just about tolerable married life to a women he never really admires or respects?

This is also what my dad did btw, it didn’t turn out great for him

>>34942212
you need to at least flirt with and have fun with the girls that like you. trust me when you do that you may even end up getting so turned on you fuck one which will make you more attractive to the hot ones. but at the least you need to have fun with them even if it doesn’t lead to sex. you can’t just believe you are going to walk up to the hotter girls and do well when you have no practice and no confidence. just use these less desirable girls, at least find one that is the least bad to play around with so you start to understand women more and you will actually be more confident around more women. and no you don’t need to settle for some ugly girl that is a loser thing to even think. just start to see all women as the same and start learning how they work because they all are very similar

>>34941788
You have the same issue as the guy that replied to you. You need to start having fun with all women, even if it’s not explicitly sexual. You need to learn how to flirt, laugh, play. You basically have zero or close to zero experience with women and are trying to ask out higher quality women. Girls don’t even want to be asked out. That sounds so serious to them. They want somebody who is fun, who gets what they want. These women that you like should enjoy being around you so much that they end up asking you out, not the other way around. And to do this you need to learn how women work and you already have such an easy road to do this with the girls that already like you. Your frame of I’m only going to talk to a girl that I will eventually marry is really bad. That’s like having no experience in baseball and expecting to hit a home run against a pro pitcher. Bitch you need to start in the little leagues why the fuck did you think you could jump straight to the deep end

>>34942184
This is fucking bullshit. Why does dating have to be a "game?" Why can't two people just like each other and get along and decide to spend time together? Why does it have to be this whole thing with "icks" and "shit tests" and all that nonsense?

>>34942279
I should preface my advice is for people interested in dating hot women. If you don’t care then just keep stumbling through dating and some girl will like you back eventually. And I say it’s a game because it literally is a game. But you are making the game sound like it’s a bad thing. It’s literally just about having fun. But if you are going to ignore what a women wants or needs from a man then don’t be surprised when they want nothing to do with you.
Women want to have fun and what’s fun for them is to chase after a man who is already cool and has a busy life. It’s not fun for them to date the guy who is super into them and will bend over backwards for her. So you either play the game, give women what THEY want and in return get what YOU want. Or ignore it entirely and probably at some point, or maybe not depending on your individual circumstance, SOME girl will want you but probably not the one you want if you’re being honest. I am being harsh to snap you out of your coping because dating is harsh nature yet you sound like you are viewing it through a Disney lens from movies. But even though it’s harsh ultimately it’s about fun, they just want to have fun with a guy that isn’t a total loser or pushover.

>>34942279
Brother we didn't make the rules, nature did. Don't worry, most of us have been through this phase, just don't get stuck there. Men are hardwired to be logical, women are hardwired to be "emotional" - reading your intentions, being completely "normie" (bell curve distribution of behaviour), which is why they hate autists, etc. A great book on this is men are from mars, women are from venus. Men talk explicitly, women talk implicitly. And learning to navigate that (as a man of course, a woman isn't going to navigate shit, she lets everything happen to her) is the whole "game" and "fun" and failing to understand that means failing to get girls.

See the positive side of that, you as a man can 100% decide on whether or not you will talk to a girl, whether or not you will push it further, all the good stuff.

>>34942279
And it is just two people liking each other but you’re literally in a thread about dating advice so on some level you must realize you can do things that make women like you more. You can do things that will make women like you less too. Shouldn’t you just keep doing the former until you actually can go out with the girls that you actually want?

>>34942287
Not him but this just sounds like you think everyone should turn into an extrovert. I don’t think I or anyone else who frequents 4chan could actually do that though

>>34940162
>be 19yo 6f white boy who gets little to no motion from white girls
>meet a cute 5'4 Vietnamese girl at work (I'm not even particularly attracted to asian girls)
>we text for less than 6 days
>we fuck on the first date

Overall pretty good, but I think I will need to do some penile reprogramming/nofap because towards the end I literally could not get hard enough to fuck her (finger fucked her into orgasm twice though & ate her out). Any tips on how to do this? I know I have a problem since I fucking goon on /gif/ nearly every day, and I just watched the healthygamergg vid on retraining, but I was wondering if any of ya'll could give me any tips?

>>34942294
nta, but I'm a turbo introvert who likes to play video games all day long and socialise as little as humanly possible, but even I wanted to get laid eventually. There is no alternative, you either start "going out" (fuck dating apps), or never get laid.

It sucks, and you have to borderline gaslight yourself into enjoying going out and talking to girls, but it works. You don't have to do it 8 hours a day every day, so enough time to recharge your introvert batteries.

>>34942265
>you need to at least flirt with and have fun with the girls that like you.
Thanks for the advice, but i’m trying to recall some of the girls that really liked me and I just don’t know if I could do that. Nothing about them was “fun” to me, they annoyed me at best or just straight up disgusted me at worst. In my experience a girl’s attractiveness and obviousness is inversely correlated, I guess I’ll try to keep your advice in mind the next time some girl gives me some more subtle signals (this also happens sometimes but as I said I’ve been too much of a coward so far). But I appreciate your advice and think you’re ultimately right, it’s just very hard for me to execute it. What do you think about getting an escort btw? Is it a viable shortcut or am I just deluding myself?

>>34942319
Can you tell me where you went out and what you did?

>>34942334
Success wise about a quarter during events like carnival, festivals / concerts, "party" spots like Mallorca and on vacations (pub crawls, talking with people at the hostel, shit like that). The rest mostly from bars and clubs. I lived in a shitty small town, so you were basically waiting for a new crop of girls to arrive with each new semester.

I was lucky to have a wing who was chasing girls as well, so I went out a lot with him. We just had very different styles, so basically we had to do our own thing every time. We usually only helped each other if the other girl(s) needed a distraction, which is a pity. He was not really interested in going up to girls as a team. At the highest level, game is a team game though, the stuff you could be doing.

The rest was done with with "regular" friends. Rarely did I go out by myself, which I have to change in the new town, though.

Approach wise, start with doing easy groups first, like 2 or 3 girls. Or try to blend into a bigger group. You will almost never find girls by themselves, except you're talking to them outside of nightlife.

Most of that pre 'rona, too, so 2017-2019. I went out the last couple years a bit, but was way too rusty and didn't go out nearly as much as I needed to, to get back to the old level.

If you don't have friends like that, you have to options. When you go out, be on the lookout for guys who also talk to a lot of girls. There's a good chance he's there doing the same thing. Or use some kind of meetup app (like meet5) where people are looking for other people to go do events together.

how can i find a cute bpd girlfriend?

>>34942279
>Why is life not ideal
Look. It's this, trooning out or fundamentalist Islam.
Your choice.

>about to join bigger LE agency
>don't want to date other officers because don't shit where you eat + they're female cops
>don't want to use apps because opsec
>don't want to use bars because opsec + STDs
what do

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>>34942620
I don't understand the question.
That's like asking "how do I find a public bathroom" or "how do I find weed".
Just don't be completely rural and look.
Find drum circles.
Find book shops or thrift shops that host DJ nights.
Start working at a smoke shop.
Learn how to refurbish plushies.

I am an attractive, fit guy who runs and goes to gym 5 days a week

I am like really really turned on by modern women’s gym wear. Like sweats / leggings / chunky sneaks / socks and all that shit. I think it’s sexy.
I’d like to find a girlfriend who will dress up like that and give me head sometimes.
Is that a weird ask?

>>34942793
Are you me?

In my experience, even if you let them pick the shorts out and pay for them, she'll have a fit about actually wearing them. But then, my ex was also a raging battleaxe feminist-of-convenience with body image issues despite being hot, so results may vary

>>34942184
I just can't learn anything good for this, for me it's all very sad and stressful. I'm poor and had a shitty upbringing. My mental state is horrible

I have a girl I see once a week and it's actually more painful than when I was an incel. Just feel empty and hollow and the days go longer just for a couple hours of soulless fucking where I go home and feel more alone than I did when I was a loser.

>>34941553
I'm 33, dating a 40 year old, and she's super easy going. She's pretty, fit and has a nice ass so that helps a lot.
It's so refreshing when a woman is attentive and shows affection outright but is also mature enough to know we're still getting to know each other and there's no pressure to put labels on the relationship.
First date she was menstruating but we still slept together and she gave me a blowjob.
No insecurities. No shit tests. Being proactive and paying for things to show she wants 50/50. Clear and honest communication. She gave me a handwritten poem on our first date it was so cute!
Makes everything so easy and pleasant... Man... so many shitty women out there she really stands out.

>>34942793
>Is that a weird ask?
Nope. Just do it in the right context, like naked in bed after sex, something like that.
To make it easier, ask her first.
>hey, are you into anything different sexually? like, any fetishes or desires? you can say anything, I won't judge!
She tells you, you affirm it: "yeah we can do that sometime", and then you say your piece.

>>34942204
To be honest, I'm like that with everyone, not just women. And the worst part is I actually did have a girlfriend once in the past, and she approached me even.

How do you talk to girls at the gym?

I am an objectively like really attractive dude. Very handsome / fit with lots of nice tattoos and I dress well.
Lots of women notice me at the gym. I get looks all the time. Smiles sometimes. Girls have put themselves next to me a lot and have made things kinda obvious but I never know what to say.

Like I relied on dating apps for years and never really practiced approaching girls in person and now it’s biting me.
I’ve pulled lots of hot girls off of hinge no issue.
I recently did work for a friend at a women’s fitness studio and friend was telling me lots of the women there were crushing on me. One of the instructors is super hot and I guess she had a big thing for me.
But I had no clue and wouldn’t have known what to say.
But I feel like if I applied myself and just went to talk to a girl I was into at the gym I wouldn’t have much issue.

What do I even do or say?

>>34942793
Bro everyone is weird. It is 2026.

>>34942184
Yep. Relax and trust the process. Fix your shit as much as possible and open up to the world.
Internalize the fact that you're not desperate. Desperation comes from a place of anxiety, and you can fix this anxiety with inner work. No external validation required. You don't need to have sex with a woman to prove that you are able to, so be patient.

Don't hide and don't play games. Be cool because you are cool. Talk to a woman like you're truly interested in her. There are ways to do this and make her feel safe and free, that's what she wants, she wants your to be into her but also allow her to catch feelings for your at her own pace.

One of the first things I told the woman I'm dating now is that I never had a girlfriend before and that I'm a sensitive person but I try not to show it. I didn't go into detail, I probably will at some point, but she loved that I opened up to her. There's a time and place and way to say these things that women will appreciate, and you'll learn it the more you talk to women.

It does boil down to bee yourself!
And it works if you understand your faults and shortcomings but also respect yourself and know your qualities, which you have many! Women love courage, and opening up takes courage. Being yourself and unafraid of judgment takes courage. Asking a woman you just met for coffee takes courage.

>>34943054
Approach her after she does a set:
>hey, nice technique! ... I'm Joe...
>yeah, that was very well executed! ... I'm Joe...
Just make it very casual, the point is to interact with her. Maybe you have a short conversation, then after the workout or the next day you approach her again.
>hey Jane ... (say something about the previous convo if you want to, it helps) ... cool, I think we should grab coffee sometime!
If she's into you she'll make it easy. She'll give you her number or instagram.

Something I like to do, not necessarily at the gym, is to strike a conversation and sort of end it and make as if I'm leaving "Anyways, it was a pleasure..." or whatever. Many times the woman will ask for my instagram or number.

>get women
When are you going to change this phrase OP? It sounds either perverted or desparate

>22
>Virgin
>Haven't dated since high school
>Physically unattractive
>Likely undiagnosed Autism and OCD
>Barely leave my room
Is it over?

>>34943275
No I lost my virginity at 31 and been slaying ever since

>>34943275
A little dating background:
The only 2 girlfriends I've ever had broke up with me for seemingly no reason but looking back I think I was too autistic to pick up on the sexual advances they were making and they were disappointed because it seemed like I wasn't physically attracted to them. But neither relationship lasted long enough that I would've said we were together long enough to have sex anyway.
I'm actually kind of scared of sex because I have a paralyzing fear of embarrassment that makes me not want to do anything I haven't done before and might be bad at.

most girls I approach in public will say hi back or talk back for a moment, but just continue to walk away. Yesterday I talked to two girls:
>absolute hottie in a gym
>see her but she goes to the locker room, never saw her get out after I finish some sets
>on a machine, see her pass
>as she passes say something to her, she turns around, takes off her headphones and replies
>introduce myself, shake hands, she drops her headphones doing this, stupid
>she starts to walk away already before I can say anything else
>say goodnight, she says it back

>see girl at coffeeshop
>ask her about her glasses, she takes out her headphones and answers, but then motions to start immediately putting them back in
>just think to myself "fuck it" and turn back away from her

Do women really think them wearing headphones/earbuds are going to stop me from talking to them? Why do they always have that shit on?
Its now a signal for going away from me when they put them on too

>20M
>never dated before
>no girlie friends
Anons, give me your honest assessment of this idea. I genuinely think there might be some potential here.
Here’s my plan: I made a greeting-card-type piece, and inside I’ve put several of my artworks (yes, I’m an artist). I was thinking of giving it to a random girl in her 20s, with my Instagram ID included in a small corner of the card, and basically asking her to add me.
The artwork itself is the main focus. I’m not trying to make it some huge romantic confession or anything.

>>34943122
You're on the absolutely wrong place on the internet to try your liberal world improving (its not) shit here.
Kill yourself

>>34943122
Please explain to me, Mr.Redditor, how the term "getting women" is perverted or desperate. I think you are projecting your own perversity on to it.

>>34943122
Is "how to arrange mandatory female animal slavery" better

>>34943696
This is a liberal board though, newfag

>>34943122
If you can learn to stop nitpicking words and pay attention to the context reading us would be easier. Here we treat approaching women like being the guy who gives women a shit ton of jewelry on the first date. Yeah, women hate that, but surprisingly one will show up and be infatuated with it. So yeah anon, true you and a lot of intelligent women who have strong beliefs may prefer the idea of a good righteous man approaching them honorably, but here we prefer to do things that feel natural to us and considerably even though if people don't like it that is their problem. We are ourselves people who like the idea of being a knight in shining armor as its grandiose ideal makes the most out of us as men. We as dorky men hope one day our lame jewelry trick will work, and you will keep finding evidence against it, but it will work in our favor if we believe in ourselves instead of beating ourselves up for not being this moral ideal the leftist part of the internet believes in.

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Have life in order but can't get a girlfriend?

Have my own apartment, vehicle, not antrophic or fat, young.

I don't have a lot of money work a dead-end job that I plan on replacing. My life is pretty boring I am aiming to improve that by going on an inawoods trip next month and doing more kommando stuff.

I also live in a town that only has 15,000 people and is somewhat isolated and the females around here aren't really good quality with a small dating pool. I feel like that is half of the problem here.

Is there anything I could do to improve this situation? I'm lonely in the town I live at but I enjoy living here and don't want to move.

I'm not looking for anything long-term more of a short-term FWB type of situation.

How would you handle the following public interactions
You're hanging out with a friend doing a weekly meetup and see a girl. Do you just flirt with her while your friend is right there? It'd be rude to suddenly change the focus of the hangout to trying to chat up a girl, no?
In the second scenario the girl is with either a mixed group of friends or all female group. How do you handle navigating unfamiliar group dynamics?
I've been using the assumption that if you intend on hanging out with a friend then you hangout with the friend. Then if there is a group scenario try to integrate into the group over repeated encounters if you can?
Curious what heuristics or insights other people have. Is approaching women best done as a solo endeavor? (small chat with strangers is easy, navigating group dynamics is a struggle)

>>34944746
that's a problem of bein a modern human
you're exposed to the whole world via instagram
so you view your town's girls as low quality
bro, you live there
that's your pick
you choose one of them, and you deal with it

or you'll always be chasing

Can't believe I blinked and looked away during eye contact with a cute-hot 18 year old. I'm supposed to be the man, damnit.

>>34942277
>These women that you like should enjoy being around you so much that they end up asking you out
Im not the guy you answered, agree with everything you said but this.

You should definetly have fun and be chill but expecting for women to ask you out is either a) you have constant contact with that woman so she just gets tired and asks you out or b) she is too nervous and will start getting mad at you and become passive agressive until eventually get over you.
So play around but if you want to fuck, you should be direct, not ask her out but tell her, something along the lines of "so when are we going after that coffee tomorow", she cant she's busy? oh well her loss you tell her, think something up you should be playing around but show her in every instance you are interested, like looking at her tits, lips while talking to her, don't be shy.
She will get the body language message and she will tell you through body language if she's interested or not.

is HealthyGamerGG actually useful for like anything ... he looks like a patel

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>>34941705
how tf do you hit on a foid w/o thinking imma bout to rape her

I went on a date today and it was really fun but she said there wasn't going to be a second date. She said I was really funny and fun but that she couldn't connect with me because I didn't go deep enough on the questions she asked and that she wanted more from me and that being funny wasn't enough. Pretty good criticism I guess need work on giving more detailed answers

>>34945312
his gf is a looksmatch and their flirty conversations are cringy

I've never asked a girl out and I have literally no idea how to. Any time I think about it, I am paralyzed by my fear of rejection and embarrassment. I have proven incapable of getting over this fear. Honestly I've mostly come to terms with the fact that I'm going to be alone forever.

>>34945513
Download Hinge and there is no fear because you know the girl already finds you attractive and likes you

>>34945515
I tried Hinge for months and received zero likes.

>>34945522
Bad pictures is the culprit 99% of the time. If the 1% of the time is that you're beyond ugly then asking them out in person isn't going to make a difference

is cold approach getting harder?
three years ago i used to be able to get like a contact info every single day i did it
and regular dates
i had a ltr and broke up last year, i did it again and got some decent results aswell but it felt like they would never go anywhere
now in 2026 i can go monthes without a date from cold approach

wtf

>>34940162
So this girl sent me a snarky message. I later sent her something a lot more rude as retaliation. All this is fine, but i don't know where to go from here.
And my goal here isn't getting laid, it's just getting attention.

>>34945806
>is cold approach getting harder?
I won't disrespect a guy who has the balls to cold approach but I'm 100% against it.
I'm not going to validate random women or get myself burned out by doing something that has a low success rate even for attractive men. I don't believe anyone who says getting rejected multiple times doesn't affect them at all.

IOI or nothing.

>>34942277
I get all this and it sounds correct, but I'm worried by doing this that I end up leadin loads of girls on. Wouldn't that end up souring lots of my friendship groups?

For example:
>There is a woman who has joined one of my social groups recently, and she clearly likes me.
>she looks great and all and is nice, but I just don't think we would be a great couple and I don't care about having a temporary, casual relationship.
>this could be the perfect oppurtunity to develop a friendship with a girl or practice flirting, but if I do I would be leading her on, which I'd feel bad about and might end up ruining the vibe in the friendship group and get me some sort of bad reputation
There's this event going on near where she lives soon, I was thinking of asking her if she wants to go to it, but she would obviously read it as a romantic date. What o I do in this situation?

>>34945837
>I can not exert my own agenda and go for what I want and only go for women who preselected me already
Not bad, but not good either.

Also >>34945806 I think so yes. Or rather, the way hookups / meetings happen has changed. e.g. getting her social media instead of getting her number

Going for the kill right away, instead of going through the contact -> text and setup a date -> date -> go home route

On top of shit being more fucked up than ever (more hatred towards men, anti-men content). On the other hand, standing out as a man for a woman is becoming easier with each passing year it feels like. Retards, autists, recluses, manchildren, women hater (same content women are being exposed to, just swap the genders), peoplpe brain-fried from smartphones / technology and many more "modern" cancers are pushing more and more men out of the dating market, if you can learn to stay "normal". All the people I know who are exposed to lots of young people see the same pattern, and it's only getting worse each year, making it easier for people who are genuinely trying.

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>>34945312
>judging a book by it's cover.

Anon if you're just going to be a /pol/tard then go ahead. You can either watch his stuff and put it to the test or continue to think your better then a "street shitter".

>money
>a nice house
>a car
>slightly above average face
>always hygienic and sharp looking
>had sex for the last time 3 years ago

Let me guess, it's because I don't leave my house isn't it?

There’s a girl at the gym who I’m pretty sure looks at me a lot. Like 95% positive we held eye contact for like 5-6 seconds. Yesterday she was picking something up and smiling really big looking at me when I walked over to a machine near hers and I couldn’t tell if she was smiling at me or on the phone or something so I just looked down. She picked up her phone and didn’t wipe her machine down and just walked away.

Anyway I’m telling myself I’ll never know unless I just go say something to her.
What do I say though? Just “hey how’s it going? I see you here a lot and wanted to introduce myself?”

>>34945312
He's exactly as useful as he looks like. Maybe your gut instinct says scammer. Trust that instinct.

>>34945893
The answer will blow your mind, but here it is:
Pussy doesn't simply fall on your lap

>>34945895
"Hey" - She says "Hey" and hopefully smiles
Then some insanel boring shit like "I see you around quite often" - "Haha yes" - "Good to see people taking care of their health" "Yeah I guess so :)"

And then you get into a rant about how Horus betrayed his own kin - "Who is Horus" and that's when you go into a 30 minute long autistic rant about how there's this Spanish Inquisition empire thousands of years into the future fighting off forces of chaos and how there's space elves whose magic is powered exclusively by rape and how you want to fuel your own magic that way if she knows what you mean

Been talking with this girl and she flirts with me and flirt back but it just feels exhausting. She loves when I talk about her and has said more than once she likes when I make her laugh and to keep being funny around her.

Just feels like that jester dancing for the queen meme. Is this how it always is with women? Shes 34.

>>34945893
>it's because I don't leave my house isn't it?
.... yes?

>>34945975
You think I got a shot?
>t. Hot fit guy

>>34946055
I'm dating this woman and it's going really well. We had the first date last week, already have the next date planned this week, and we talk every day. I can't remember making a single joke or ever making her laugh.
I do make her smile a lot though, but not for humorous reasons.

But when I'm hanging out with my best friend of 10+ years and his wife they're constantly laughing at my sarcastic and witty remarks about things. That's because they know my worldview and how each joke I make fits into it.

Are you always trying to be funny with strangers? Because this girl is basically a stranger. If your humour style is akin to a stand up comedian then I guess it makes sense because you're always cracking jokes with everyone.
What you can't do is become a jester to attract her, win her over, then become a completely different guy.
What I mean is: you don't need to be a jester to attract women. If it feels forced, don't do it.

>>34944746
>more of a short-term FWB type of situation

Be hot, or at least hotter than the other men available in your area.

Accept that you'll have to deal with damaged women. Trauma, emotional instability, BPD, etc... Any woman looking for a FWB is damaged in some major way.

>>34946055
You get to fuck her regularily and destress afyer another shit day with her small soft body resting on yours in the post-coital embrace while you lapse into sleep. You are fucking her, right?

>>34946172
No, Im having doubts about if she would be worth it. shes 34 and divorced

>>34946123
When Im with friends or meeting a new person, I kind of ham it up a little bit, because normally i'm very reserved and mild. its why I live on my own, it lets me be myself without feeling performative for anyone around me. I like talking to people but I need a lot of downtime in between. Texting someone every day can feel exhausting. I dont even talk to my own family that often.
I'm not being funny to make her like me, but I'm also not being my mild relaxed self either, otherwise I wouldn't talk as much or be as animated. I think I do it because it forces me to be able show who I am instead of retreating to the back and becoming timid.

However it almost feels like I'm falling into the same issue I had with my ex. where once she experienced who I really was she became very bitter and angry. She expected a man who could do more than I could. I didnt fake it with her, but I was very animated early on, and she wanted me to be that way forever.

>>34945528
I used the best pictures I had of me so yeah I'm beyond ugly

I'm screwed
>Ask this girl out being completely inadequate, finally some courage
>Response so unclear I make the mistake of asking a female friend about it
>She tells on me, I get an apology from this girl and now it's all forced and ruined
>End up hanging out with this girl, until the first drink there's nothing but awkward, she looks like she doesn't even wanna be there, I'm dying inside
>After a couple of drinks we can't stop yapping about shit, laughing and finding common ground
>Drunkenly realize I like her more than before but I've been befriended permanently
>Now my friend is now bitching at me because I used alcohol as a crutch

You know what if you can't be satisfied being alone, at least be satisfied you've made friends and had connections your life. Doing that is a lot better than beating yourself up for not having a girlfriend. You may think you're the worst guy she has encountered, but pal she's dealt with worse. You are not alone in your struggles okay.

Zach belongs in a lake of fire

Zach belongs

Day 6 of nofap

>>34946455
Here's your most retarded gay award

>woman invites me to her home for sex
>cant help but wonder how many men before me she invited before
am i sick for thinking like this?

>>34946504
Nobody cares if you fuck some slut. It's not that important.

do woman actually get attached to you and clingy once you fuck them?

Honest question, how do I know if I'm attractive? Lately I've been noticing women looking at me more but I have no idea if that is because they find me attractive or not.

I thought of posting my face on /soc/ but I'm afraid of being doxed lol.

>>34946571
Go on OmeTV niggas will let you know when you're ugly as fuck and if the women stay your hot

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>girl ive been dating for 3months breaks up with me
>tells me she has no romantic feelings for me
>makes no sense since she was the most engaged one in our relationship
>we end up seeing each other again the day after and have sex twice
she now writes me constantly and is even more into me, at least based on her behavior, what the fuck is going on?

Trying to talk with this Vietnamese chick on Hinge. Apparently she's lived in my country for a few years and went to college. Genuinely the dumbest texter I've ever fucking encountered lmao.

30m. One of my friends said their friend had a big crush on me so I hit her up on instagram and we scheduled a date.
She seemed nice when we met briefly,
However I looked at her profile and a couple things came up that made me want to cancel the date
1) She’s 4 years younger than me, which isn’t a huge deal but 26 feels a little young idk
2) She doesn’t have an actual career and just serves different places downtown and works as a fitness instructor
3) She does acro pole. Like it’s basically a stripper pole but you do crazy stunts and moves / positions on the pole and do spins and stuff. But a lot of her profile is her basically half naked downtown at clubs or restaurants, and she even has one post where she’s shoveling snow in crazy high heels and a bikini and she’s twerking on camera.


I dunno dude maybe she’s sexually confident and that’s great but to me it screams male attention and hoe shit. And I want a real partner and can’t imagine dating a woman who exposes herself online that way.
Am I wrong for wanting to cancel?
I also re sparked with this super sweet girl I have a crush on forever and weve gone out a couple times and she wants to take our dogs out together Sunday afternoon. And I kinda want to cancel Saturday and get good rest and go see the girl and her dog.

>>34946735
>sparked with this super sweet girl I have a crush on forever and weve gone out a couple times and she wants to take our dogs out together Sunday afternoon
Why tf are you even talking to other girls right
There's no comparison here unless you've left out some major details

>>34946204
>I didnt fake it with her, but I was very animated early on, and she wanted me to be that way forever.
Yeah, that sucks man. That's why I never jester. My flirting is very subdued, I bring the same level of energy that I bring to everything in life, so expectations are set from the very beginning and there are no disappointments later on.

In fact, I don't actually flirt, I try to connect. I share things about myself, talk about random things, etc...

I'm always thinking
>I'm trying to see if this woman is cool, interesting and can hold a conversation, and if we're compatible
Instead of
>I need to make this woman like me
Conversations with women flow way better when you're thinking like this.

I ghost many women for things that I'm sure they have no idea they did wrong.
Like when I ask about their day, they tell me, and then they don't ask about mine... that's an instant ghosting offence to me.

If you like this woman that you're talking to, keep talking to her and maybe reduce the jokes a bit. In my experience when women initiate conversations a ton like she's doing it means she's into you, so if you want something more with her set the date and see where it goes.

>>34947340
>when women initiate conversations a ton like she's doing it means she's into you

Every girl i dated started because the woman was more forward with me and made moves on me first, and I didnt really like them until they liked me first. this has caused me to become less of the decision maker in those relationships and I end up in situations where the woman is taking the lead more often. Over time that wears me out and I withdraw and eventually we break up.

All that to say is that I want be able to be more forward and deliberate with the women i get involved with. Im not performing for her to make her like me, but I do have this base level of "social extrovertedness" that comes out when I'm everyone except family. My friends only see me a few times a month so it's alright.

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How do you meet nerdy girls? Hinge has been the main way I've met women for the past two years, but lately it looks like all the actual weebs and cosplayers started hiding their powerlevels or something, making them way harder to find. I tried going to a local singles meetup as well, and it was normie central. I'm trying to get a relationship instead of just quick sex, so some rave-like thing like what >>34941368 said will likely not work for me.

>>34947561
board game nights, finding a local culture club, just going to every single convention or fantasy event.

Or manning up and just going to a rave to have fun.

>>34946567
>do woman actually get attached to you and clingy once you fuck them?
only ones that liked you from the start
and also have low body count

>>34946571
It's half you. If you think you are attractive then people will start to think of you as attractive. Not gonna work on everyone, but if you start to notice people and getting that vibe then you probably are.

Remember too attractiveness isn't purely looks. Other traits are also taken in to account.

How do I forgive myself for leaving a chick who was fine as a gf?
How do I get over her? It's been a fucking year already and I know she's fucking someone else

>>34946567
>do woman actually get attached to you and clingy once you fuck them?
If she's not a blown out whore, yes.

I lasted like 2 minutes with a girl once and she still became all clingy and lovey dovey with me later

>Spend months lifting weights and slimming down
>Get job surrounded by women coworkers (they know I’m a straight man), hit on a lot all day
>One of them invites me out to group outings, we have great chemistry
>Invite her out 1 on 1
>Makes excuses twice and never reschedules
>I start backing away and don’t invest time anymore
>She just acts like I never asked and wants to continue having chemistry but now I can’t

Why are women so confusing

Quitting porn is the best thing you can do when it comes to this shit but whenever I suggest this to men on here. They refuse to even entertain the idea and it's pathetic. Gooners have no shame.

Blog time.

Does anyone remember the post I made like a week ago about that married colleague that gave me fuck me eyes?

I've not been pursuing her because I decided that I was not gonna force the matter, today by chance we were alone and i offered her a coffee.
I told her I am almost 30 and she said I looked much younger, I casually asked her if she's into younger or older men and then dropped a "well I guess you're married anyway" and turns out she wasn't??
>Oh this ring?
"This fucking ring right here on my fucking ring finger were people keep rings from their fucking spouses?" I add in my head
>Oh no this is like a thing with my sister. Sister rings.

Well fuck me, guess I never had to worry about being a homewrecker. I really want to get with her, I got about a month before she's transferred to another office.

We exchanged numbers, what's the next part? I'm too fucking nervous around her, I'm usually somewhat suave with women but around her I start slurring my words and stuff.

she keeps saying yes to my advances but delays it. always saying next week or not today etc. why not just reject it if you dont want?

>>34948973
>why not just reject it if you dont want?
Because she gets to keep your attention by stringing you along. And male attention is the most valuable resource in the universe for a woman.

>>34948973
Women very rarely say no either because they crave the attention or because they're scared of making you mad/disappointed
If she were interested she'd have said yes bro.

>>34948973
Ask for tit pics. That's the best you're going to get from her.

Met this girl bout a week ago
Want to ask her on a date but I'm only free tomorrow or Monday after work
Which one would work? Should it be just dinner or some activity like escape room or mini golf

>>34946942
Yeah basically this girl and I matched on OkCupid when we were like 17 or 18. Texted ton. And we almost went out but we lived far from eachother and it just fizzled.
Years go by, I’m like 24 or 25 and we follow eachother on instagram and I send her a message and try flirting and she’s receptive but says she’s living in another state.

More years go by. Now it’s 2026, and like in April she posted some art that I was into and we got to messaging and went out a few times. She’s a little quiet and reserved but super sweet and wholesome and seems like a real grown up with her shit together.
We go to plan another date but things get in the way and we ended up not rescheduling.
But we randomly started texting again this week and I invited her out on a hike with the dogs and she’s excited.

So I did cancel on the dancer girl, yes. It’s too soon to tell with the girl I’m into but she seems great and I’d love to get to know her more.

It’s not shallow to want to be physically attracted to your girlfriend is it?
Or like if you’re a good looking guy it’s not wrong to want to date a girl you think is hot?

I’ve dated a lot of pretty women and both of my long term gfs were really pretty but for some reason I worry that I’ll end up settling?
Idk im v attractive and I work out a ton and look really good and I also want a girl who takes care of herself and shit. Is that wrong?

If they seem asexual around you its because you're seen as unattractive. They become whores in the presence of the right guy, I've seen it myself. Used to work as a bartender for a while, the behavior I've seen was enough to blackpill me for life. Even the shy, mousy ones become whores that grope and grind. Those same girls act like royalty in the presence of their beta male friends and they even get offended and disgusted if anything related to sex comes out of the mouth of a man they don't find attractive. If a girl is ever acting appalled at the mention of women even so much as having a libido, its because the man that's even so much as going into that topic without being attractive, is deemed as a creep instantly. They will try to shame you into going back where you belong in their imagined hierarchy. They don't want ugly men seeing them as the whores that they know they are, especially in friend groups. If the ugly ones found out the girls were giving ass to their attractive male friends, that could potentially open them up to approaches from those same betabuxx friendzoned guys and they couldn't explain away the dynamic without social incrimination.

>>34949122
Stale pasta; bad chef

>>34949120
>It’s not shallow to want to be physically attracted to your girlfriend is it?
What happened with society that wanting to be with someone you're physically attracted to could even possibly be considered wrong?

Why would you care if someone was psychotic and deranged enough to think you're shallow for wanting to be with someone you're attracted to?

>>34949120
It's not wrong. It is okay to want your girl to be attractive to you ofc but what else is there? If looks is all you bond with then you're gonna keep looking because even novelty overpowers objective looks sometimes if you're too used to your girl.
I do want my girl to be attractive but at a certain point I also do value personality over looks. I've talked to a lot of fine looking boring bitches to the point that I'm just tired. I don't want to hear about pilates and how much they love to travel as their personality.
If she looks good enough and also her personality is great and she's fun to talk to and reciprocates ideas then I'm happy. I'll love her regardless.

>>34949145
I don’t know. I think it’s my insecurities and I think I’m just worried about having to settle.
Again, there’s been no shortage of pretty girls in my life but I like worry I’ll never find a woman who’s fit and attractive and has a good character and such.

>>34949147
For sure. I’ve been with enough women to understand that looks aren’t everything.
Character / values are more important but I do want to think my gf is hot.
Hot women can be really shitty but so can ugly women

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Genuine need advice bros, please help
>been seeing a girl for +4 months now
>she has already broken up with me twice
>both times, I remained calm and just talked it out with her, she cries every single and believes she does not have romantic feelings for me
>despite constantly texting me, inviting me to stuff, initiating for sex, everything that would indicate she is in to me
>she has never really felt "romantic love" as she describes it outside of middle school
>claims to never have loved any of her exes of which only two exist
>second time she ended things, we met the next day, she initially tried to behave as if the break up never even happened, i had to force the conversation to start around it
>she is now seemingly "in" to me again
wtf is going on

>>34949236
Leave dude

She is mentally and emotionally unstable and you will get hurt if you invest yourself. She is the type of woman that will damage you, your peace and stability if you allow her to.
Been there done that. Don’t waste your time. Learn your value and don’t settle for that shit

>>34949236
Have a real conversation as to why she's not into you but also not letting you go, figure out why she's staying if she says she doesn't love you, talk it out like adults.
If either of you can't do that, just end the relationship for good.

What’s the 'sensus on asking a woman out over text vs over a call?

>>34949295
Don't call her unless she's at least 35.

I’ve dated / fucked many really hot women, and have fumbled my shot with others. I relied way too heavily on dating apps to do this despite getting a lot of female attention. Like I can definitely get a hot girl.
I’m just so afraid of approaching IRL. I like can’t do it. I get so nervous. I’m such a pussy about it.
It doesn’t matter how many women I’ve been with or how much success I’ve had, I’m always so nervous to talk to women in person.
Especially at the gym. And fit girls are like exactly my type.

How do I get over this?

>>34949236
She's crazy. Proceed at your own risk.

>>34949295
Calling unprompted is not something you should do nowadays. Everyone hates it.

>>34949412
>How do I get over this?
By doing it more.

>>34949236
>wtf is going on
She's flaky and probably a mental case of some sort like >>34949238 said. Stop engaging and move on.

>>34949428
There’s this super bad chick that I always catch looking at me.
Like anytime I look in her direction she’s already peeping at me.
99% positive we held eye contact for awhile once and I’ve smiled at her and shit.
Yesterday we were working out right next to eachother and I wanted to say something but I was waiting for her to look or acknowledge me or smile at me or something so I just didn’t say anything.

It’s so much less about actually getting the girl as it is me being afraid to try at this point. I really just want to get over it.

Like granted I am objectively very attractive and fit, I worry I’ll be creepy or bother someone or people will judge me etc etc.

Maybe I need to retardmax

>>34949440
"Just do it (tm)"

>>34948493
Quitting porn is easy but quitting jerking off is the real challenge.

>>34949440
Like the guy said the only solution is doing it more. You have experience with dating apps you know how it is, the more you chat up women there the better you get at chatting them up. Same goes for approaching in person.

>>34949310
>>34949427
i thought my chances would be higher if i called, i guess not.

>>34949573
It's even a lil weird.
People nowadays don't like calls or calling. Texting is for when you're getting to know someone. They have an easy way out. If you want to honestly tell something to someone you know, you do it directly anyways.

>quit porn and stop jerking off for two months
>girl touches my dick for literally 1 second
>cum immediately
There has to be a solution to this that doesn't involve embarrassment

Alright let me tell you all something, when you are out trying to get chicks as usual, there is one thing I want you to know. Enjoy the chase. It is like scratch cards from the gas station, you would love 10k, but you know you ain't getting it. However, you love the game nonetheless. Just remember that.

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Find my mind blanking when talking to people. Doesn't help with approaching. I can walk up to a girl no problem, but I just have nothing. I think I wasn't socialized properly as a child.

>>34949583
numbing cream/sprays. Welcome

>>34949281
We already had this conversation. She said she liked me a lot, that she really enjoys spending time with me and doesnt want to let me go, but that she is afraid that the romantic love isnt going to come later down the line. She also said that we are a really good match, almost as if we are best friends.

>>34949238
>>34949438
This is the literal only symptom of her being a nutcase though. She is really grounded in most other matters.

how can ppl find girls in general?
like i dont want to go to hobby clubs just to meet girls, or go to parties. i did not tried dating apps, and dont want to. asking somone out in in the streets is also no, since im shy af and would look like a creep or like that. also, most ppl ik just complained about his relationship so im questioning it in the first place. most of their motivation seems to be sex whats isnt a big selling point imo.

>>34949882
Try shit and be an adult and socialize or shut up

Seriously you need to have pathways to meeting people if you want to meet one to partner with. If you don’t want to go and meet people, don’t complain

>>34949760
She broke up with you two times in four months. That's a pretty big symptom.
>but that she is afraid that the romantic love isnt going to come later down the line.
>as if we are best friends
She's flaky. Sounds like she has no idea how to have a relationship and is already friend-zoning you in her mind. And going by that "outside of middleschool" bit she might be chasing that feeling of being infatuated as a teen. I don't know how old you two are, but she's probably going to keep 'playing around' with you and other people because she can't commit.
You've been with her for a few months now. Ask yourself if you want to run the risk of being led on by her for longer before she quits on you again.

Either she gets serious, or you'll keep this friends with benefits scenario going. I wouldn't get too attached to her for your own good. Hell set a date like X months from now, if she still can't make up her mind then just drop it.

>>34949760
>but that she is afraid that the romantic love isnt going to come later down the line. She also said that we are a really good match, almost as if we are best friends.
Friends with benefit or cut it off, you genuinely couldn't trust this person to not cheat on you anyway.

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>Invite girl out to thing
>Cool! Let's invite-
Translation: I don't want to be 1 on 1 with you

2027 will be my year. This time for sure.

>>34948406
>>34947802
This is why I'm hesitant to have sex with someone, especially if shes the one who's pushing for it. I'd hate to have to tell her the next day that I didnt enjoy it or it didnt feel right, then for her to get clingy and feel used.

>>34949583
Start jerking off again, but keep it to once or twice a week tops.

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Girl was pushing boundaries and pretty much flirting with me for 5 weeks, eventually developed a crush on her, she was escalating the relationship constantly so eventually asked her out 3 days ago
Her exact response?

>Gets flustered, says "I-I can't, I have a bf"

I just said that's fine and moved on, did my day as usual didn't care much.
But now a couple days later I'm getting quite fucking pissed off, what the fuck is wrong with women?
You don't fucking do this shit when you have a boyfriend and this was all on HER side

>Staring constantly
>Initiates conversations one on one
>Gets physically close constantly, even if I'm far away
>Always sits next to me and gets annoyed if someone takes the spot
>She learned I take a specific bus, a week later she says she's coming with me because we live close
>15-20 minute rides
>Talking nonstop for all those rides and then walking together every time, always us 2 and no one else
>Tells me to message her regarding work stuff, I didn't ask or offer, when I said I needed hours she immediately said we should take shifts together
>Never put a boundary when I touched her back or shoulders, in fact she escalated even more after that
>Finds ways to have little moments together
>Always smiling at me
>Always calling me by name
>Always waits for me to make a move or do something before she does the same
>NEVER mentioned a boyfriend or any kind of relation
And many other things, this was a pattern of escalation not simple friendliness to the point that the only thing left was asking her out.
AND I have to keep seeing and working with her for a few more months

The worst part?
SHE JUST FUCKING TEXTED ME ASKING IF WE'RE DOING THOSE SHIFTS
I am feeling a mix of heart break, not giving a shit, anger, hating women, regret, still liking her and a desire to heavily improve myself and get a girl that's worth it but why if it's just gonna be this shit again?
Shit sucks man, and I just had a bad breakup some months ago, why would you do this?

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>>34950533
You know what, nah, fuck that, I know what I'm doing.
I'm still going for her, but now casually and with no hopes of her being a long term thing because I now know how she is, while also going for another girl we know in front of her, whatever happens, happens.

I'm done caring for her feelings, she obviously feels SOMETHING and worst case scenario it'll be good practice, it'll be up to her to figure it out and get to me again, not me, but I'll still keep it going so she feels the connection.


>dude but you shouldn't take someone else gf!
Don't care didn't ask, if they were fine and dandy she wouldn't be doing this

Brothers there has to be some niche place to meet artsy girls I go to bookstores and libraries and shits and I never see them

>>34950533
>>34950826
Congratulations, you learned what an actual "attention whore" is. Don't fret, almost every man has gone through a similar situation.

Women can flirt and seduce just for sport, for attention, for validation and a myriad of other reasons with none of them being attraction to the man. This is what we call attention-whoring.
She got what she wanted out of you, attention, validation and an ego-boost from knowing that she was capable of making you fall for her. She never wanted anything more than that.

This is why the redpill says you should make your move as soon as possible if she is indicating interest and if she pulls back after you make your advance, then you cease to pursue her immediately and never give her your time or attention for free ever again. Waiting, being "friends" and trying to "build up comfort" first or any of that bullshit is bluepill myth.

>>34951080
I wasn't interested on her at first, or any women to be honest, between the time I got the crush and this it's only been a week and half or so.
At this point I'm reversing the game, she's trying to keep it going, I'll make her REALLY try, don't really care what happens I got other girls to ask.

>>34951099
Still going for her is simply giving her more unearned validation. The right move would be to cut her off completely.

>At this point I'm reversing the game
There's no real way to "reverse" the game because she's likely never going to give you what you want, meanwhile every second of your time that you're invested in her, physically or mentally, is her getting what she wants from you for free.

>>34951163
I'm not investing on her, that's my point, she was always the one engaging and escalating, I'll just let her keep doing it while not reciprocating much unless she basically takes the leap, at which point I won't treat the relationship seriously anyways
I can't completely cut her off as I will literally need her and her cooperation for work, like it or not, so I'll just let her keep doing it while focusing on other girls.

>>34948480
>No responses
Damn

>>34951191
The response is she wants your attention but doesn't want to commit, you pulled back so she HAS to reel you back in for her dopamine fix.


You have two options:
Tell her to stop unless that one date is happening
Backing out even more, and make her reel you back in with a date instead of going back and forth

>>34951199
I basically completely ignore her at work unless she speaks directly to me. I stopped texting first as well. I’m leaning towards she never liked me since she hasn’t reached out outside work.

>>34951212
Yeah I haven't texted her first at all since, she texted me first as I said earlier after the boyfriend rejection.
Gave her some strictly professional answers regarding the hours because I really do need them as fast as possible, and just left it there, she's been voice messaging me even more than before but I ain't checking that shit I got stuff to do, maybe tomorrow.

I can't fully ignore her because I have to interact with her as a team but not gonna do shit beyond that.

>>34951221
Sorry, saw a you from the above post and thought that was for me

>>34951221
Yeah see how our situations differ then? Yours is actually reaching out to you, mine isn’t. I’m cooked it seems.

>>34951226
Yeah no worries, just needed some genuine advice

>>34951228
that retards girl has a boyfriend and your retarded ass doesn't it's a different situation
you have a chance just don't worry about it and live your life, move on, if she's interested and since she knows you're interested she will be the one to ask for that date

>>34949583
Thatt' actually a good sign anon. Sex is only supposed to last about 15ish minutes. You really just need to fuck more.

>>34951174
>'m not investing on her, that's my point
I see. I thought you meant you were going to keep pursuing her because you said "I'm still going for her".

Anyway, I think your strategy of letting her do the pursuing would be fine if not for the fact that as you already know she's an attention whore and will pursue you only to reel you back in for free validation and most importantly, because she told you she has a boyfriend. It could be a lie, or not.

This whole situation is simply not worth it and it's very obvious. This woman is your coworker, has already played you and strung you along for her entertainment, you made a move, got rejected and told directly that she already has a man, yet you want to keep engaging. At this point you're asking to be played again at best, or lose your job and maybe get into a confrontation with a jealous boyfriend at worst. All for some vapid attention whore.
I'd never engage with this woman out of basic workplace formality ever again.

>>34951282
Is it different? This girls younger she probably was just being nice even if I’m attractive

>>34951346
>even if I’m attractive
Which is certainly not the case

>>34951446
I know that would be the conclusion considering where we are, but as I stated in the original post I get lots of femae attention and lift/diet and am conventionally attactive. I’m just not getting the attention I want from this particular woman and it’s confusing me.

>>34951346
It doesn't matter just go with the flow, you already asked her, she knows you like her, now it's up to her.
You gain nothing by chasing her, and a woman biggest ick is a desperate guy.

>>34951468
You’re right, and I’m doing that (I think) properly. Just completely ignoring her unless she talks to me first and never texting.

i watched many of andrew tates approaching girls videos and even he seems awkward and oblivious on what to do. im becoming convinced nobody really knows what to do and only looks/money/status matters. game is a lie

>>34951675
Andrew tate is a racemixed bald dysgenic chinlet. He's not even charismatic. He's just relatable to his indian audience because he's dumb and ugly just like them.

>>34940388
What are you going to talk about with a roastie hag? Women stop maturing at 16, none of them are good conversation partners.

>>34951675
Cold approaching strangers has never been a normal part of society. Everyone is awkward when doing it because it isn't normal behaviour.

>>34940512
Don't listen to Indians when it comes to getting women

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All the attractive women who would make great wives and mothers are taken in high school and college the latest. Whatever remains is taken shortly after they enter the workforce. There exist very few good looking women that are single and have a good heart, are modest, raised in a decent family, soft spoken and pretty. The window of opportunity when they are single is very very narrow. These are the 2% of women, the highest stock of females this wonderful creation can offer. If you don't frequent their circles or the events they attend you have no chance of meeting them. Women also don't go anywhere alone, so whatever hobbies women have or events they attend it is done with their husband or boyfriend and if they are single with their groups of friends.

tldr; there simply aren't enough single good looking young white women to go around for everybody, they are rare and exist mostly in very niche places where men without social circles (loners) can't get in to

So how do I 'cold approach'?
Theres a girl at the bookshop I frequent, she always smiles at me. So anyway today I was asking her about stuff and she helped as best she could. But how do I transition to asking her on a date? Or is that not actually a thing that happens in real life?

>>34943030
Yeah too bad she's infertile

>>34943384
>Do women really think them wearing headphones/earbuds are going to stop me from talking to them?
Yes. That is a sign they don't want to talk, why are you acting suprised when they don't want to talk?

>>34951830
>But how do I transition to asking her on a date?
You should express interest sexually. Not in a vulgar way, but through flirting and compliments. You want to see if she's even interested in the possibility.

That's also not really cold approaching. A cold approach means you have no prior knowledge of the person.

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>>34951802
>this shallow copy pasta again.

>>34951781
Suck to suck then lol

>>34950533
You're putting way too much mental energy into this bro. You should be flirting and asking other girls out and forget that this girl even exists.

>>34951080
>none of them being attraction to the man
She's probably attracted to him. He's the third element in this situation. Her relationship may have fallen into routine and lost excitement, and so she's focusing her libidinal energy in some other guy who's new and exciting, but her morals and fear of judgment won't let her actually cross the line and cheat on her boyfriend.

>>34951802
>implying I want a "modest" boring woman
>implying I want to get married
Speak for yourself, loser.

>>34951843
Good. I can creampie her freely. I don't want kids.

>>34951951
OR she's using him for attention and personal entertainment, which is far more likely.

>>34952016
Yes, because women are all machiavellian demigod villains and not merely humans with confusing emotions.

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>have qt coworker
>very standoffish and prickly, hard to get a read on
>been making small gestures to get friendlier
>think she's starting warm up to me
>want to ask her out
HOWEVER
>current job has a benefit where they will cover the entirety of a four-year degree for me
>been working here for a year
>know from experience that our other coworkers love to gossip
>even to the point of constantly bringing up dirt about people that quit over a year ago
>don't think the qt herself would maliciously tell anyone
>can't shake the anxiety of someone else finding out anyway
>know that it would make me the next target of gossip for the next 4 years
do I just bite the bullet? I'm not overly attached to the degree so if it were to somehow go nuclear I could quit
but also getting a bachelor's without paying a dime would be sick as fuck
autistic khhv btw, I'm sure it's apparent but I want to be clear

>>34952146
Women are incapable of self-restraint bro, they only act on emotion and constantly use phrases like "but he made me mad" to justify horrible behavior. If you were a dolt, only capable of pursuing short term gratification with no thought as to the consequences, you would be a villain too.

>>34946172
Is this really all I get to expect from a woman? That sucks bro, I don't even really like sex, and I can't sleep next to others. I hate women bc the only benefit a man gets from a relationship is ALSO a benefit for the woman. And yet they act like we are the ones who should be grateful.

>>34947389
Where are you meeting these women? That's my biggest hurdle. I'm sure if I had more platonic women in my life, they'd eventually draw first blood like you're saying as well.

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>>34951951
>>34952146
>>34952016
She's definitely attracted, I wasn't fully sure before but weird enough I'm almost completely confident now after the rejection because of the way she behaved.
A girl doesn't act like that without attraction while having a bf, she didn't put any real boundaries or tried to pull away and her rejection was a "I can't because of x", and then desperately sending me voice messages to keep things rolling and trying to make a new space together, barely 2 hours after.


So a bit more context, I did peep her socials a handful of times, about 3 before asking and then again yesterday and she never had anything about a boyfriend until the day I asked her out, funny enough she posted it the day before I asked her out and apparently been together for a year or more, I didn't see that.
But the day after I asked her out she deleted/hid all the social stuff regarding her bf, she has no idea I've checked her socials.


My guess is that she's on a fucked up relationship and on the way out, has a crush on me but can't fully take the next step and wasn't expecting me to actually ask her out, me doing it has potentially shaken her a bit.
But again I'm not losing sleep over this bullshit, I shot my shot, I'm not gonna be behind her chasing her, if she wants anything she can figure it out and then come but I'm not gonna be her arm chair psychologist or backup boyfriend, fuck off.
I got other girls pulling the moves on me, and I gave HER the chance which seemed to be a mistake.

>>34952261
>come here for advice
>rebuke all advice and assert that actually you know exactly what's going on
genuinely why even bother

>>34952264
But I am following the advice, mostly, I'm not gonna chase her nor worry about her, I admitted it was a mistake, I'll talk to other girls to both get over her and let her figure out whatever autistic gamey bullshit she's doing and even then I'll probably/hopefully be with someone else by then.
I'm just giving a bit more context.

>>34952270
>I'm not gonna chase her nor worry about her
idk man you're still writing entire paragraphs about her to strangers on the internet days later
give up on her or don't, but whatever you do don't delude yourself

>>34952276
Well no shit, I'm still thinking about her, this all JUST happened less than 2 days ago, I can't just flip a switch and instantly change, but notice how I talked in future tense.
I'm talking about the future after this weekend when I actually see her again, if I bottle it up it'll just keep thinking about it while this allows me to vent out and mostly get over it on the weekend and focus on important stuff.

>>34952261
You do not have other girls "pulling the moves" on you

>>34952253
tldr i met them on dating apps or through social circles in my city, (its a big city)
in the last 10 years ive had 3 gfs, and there was a lot of dry spell between each
girl 1 - met on bumble, we dated for 4 months, she ended it
girl 2 - met on hinge, we dated for 3 years, she ended it
girl 3 - met in a social group, we dated for a year, I ended it.

girl 1 seemed like a shy nerdy girl on the first date but i learned fast she was a huge slut and it was fun for a while, but one day she called me on the phone to break up with me and that was it

girl 2 was very forward on the first and second date, and asked me to come back to her place and initiated the first intimacy. it was a pretty good relationship but moving in together is where it all fell apart.

girl 3 was someone who I never paid attention to but she was really into me for a while and eventually came out and told me she was really attracted to me and that eventually led to us dating, but she was very much in charge of the relationship and would get angry if I ever stood up for myself.

>>34952308
Girl 3 sounds like a latina lol

https://youtu.be/tyVuk1X0pU8?is=jLfJBw7DxZM3gFvx

Algorithm hit me with this. Unironically good information

>>34952314
lol close, she was definitely non-white, and the last non white i'll ever date

>>34952331
ah, a blackie, I dated one and she was pretty mean, very hot though

>>34952300
I do, one I've been talking but keeping the distance, another one I don't know but she's also trying to get close, one of them in front of the first girl.
Like I previously said I didn't want anything and just got off a fucked up relationship about 4 months ago, I had no interest in seeking out anything with women but this kinda woke me up.
Problem is it could just be the same fucking bullshit of crazy women looking for attention.

>>34952362
sure bud, not like you're manufacturing their interest at all lol

>>34952402
Believe what you wish anon, have a good day, I got shit to sort out regarding this girl.

>>34940388
>What do you think you're going to talk about? Her algebra homework?
He's there to have sex with her moron, you don't talk with women about anything serious or "deep"

>>34952193
I wouldn't ask her out unless she makes it clear and unambiguous that she is into me. "Small gestures" and "getting friendlier" do not mean she is romantically interested in you, specially when she's your coworker and could simply friendly and cordial due to workplace etiquette.

>>34952410
Yes, focus on her because you don't have others waiting

>>34952467
>I wouldn't ask her out unless she makes it clear and unambiguous that she is into me.
Cheers, that's pretty much where my head is at. The sexless dork in me is afraid I'm being too cautious and might miss a chance, but I suppose that's preferable to it blowing up in my face entirely.

>>34952323
Yeah she makes a few good points but she's still a woman so she's never going to really understand our perspective or delve into stuff like hypergamy.

>>34952558
>being too cautious and might miss a chance
That would be the case... if she weren't your coworker.

Ultimately it's up to you to assess the situation but I would not pursue her for that reason alone unless she makes it unambiguous she is romantically interested. Specially if you really like and/or need your job. You already said it's a very gossipy place with probably lots of of backstabbing and rug-pulling (which workplace isn't, really?) so if you're reading this wrong it could backfire seriously.

>>34952323
She is spot on, that has been my experience dating younger and older women.

>>34952323
>>34952615
>>34952564

To add to my previous post:
What she says about women giving misleading dating advice to men because they state what their previous partner lacked instead of what actually draws them in is 100% wrong and she doesn't even say that in bad faith, it's just her woman brain trying to rationalize things it isn't supposed to.

Women instinctively give misleading advice because when thinking of what makes a man ATTRACTIVE they will speak what makes him an interesting choice for long-term relationship and marriage (aka the "beta bucks" side of the alpha fucks/beta bucks dichotomy), that's why they'll mention qualities and characteristics usually found in men that are good earners and providers, they also will say things that they think will make them appear virtuous and increase their moral social standing. The type of men they describe will not be the type that they are actually sexually attracted to, and they will do so in good faith (like the woman in the video is doing) because after all they're not really lying from their perspective, a mild, kind, nice guy beta bucks with a stable job IS attractive, just not sexually!
Replying that they want to get dominated physically, mentally and emotionally by a handsome, virile man with typical masculine traits and capacity for violence will attract judgement and turn possible beta providers away.

Don't hate them for it, it's how they were designed, they can't help but be ambiguous, indirect and dualistic because they evolved for it.

How do I get good pics? I tried a photographer and they look good, but very staged unfortunately and did not help my profile. I hardly have any friends and of course, they can't take pics or shit on me if I ask because, bucket of crabs theory or whatever. What's an easy way to get really good "female gaze" pictures without being to try hard? All my hobbies are women repellent so I don't get any naturally. The only one that isn't is music, but at 30 years old if all my pictures are of me playing metal it no longer has the effect it did when I was under 25. I get like 0 matches now

>>34953020
You need candid pics, not photoshoots. Just you preferably not looking at the camera, focused on the environment, engaged in something, having fun, etc. Have somebody take rapid fire pictures of you where you act like it’s candid. Also you can just take the pictures yourself with a tripod if that’s too much. The key is for you to look comfortable, grounded, focused. Doing things you would normally do so its not like “hey look at me I went out of my way to take a dating pic so you would like me”

What's the difference between girl nervous around you (Good) and girl nervous around you (Bad)? Feels like I may have wasted some opportunities here

>>34953097
The golden rule is that if a girl is trying to spend time with you and trying to get your attention she's really interested because she's lowering her defenses.
The problem is that interest != guaranteed relationship, they might be playing games or some other shit.

>>34951675
this is bullshit but it’s really not that common to meet guys good at it, I’ve met some and the things they can pull of you wouldn’t believe and call it bullshit. it’s quite common even for people that don’t know ‘cold approach’ to get laid from going out to a bar or a concert and they happen to vibe with a girl. the thing is this would never happen to guys that ‘struggle’ with women, it’s usually guys that already are social. but even me who is also awkward have gotten hugs, phone numbers, etc from consciously trying to make it happen. honestly I would NOT recommend cold approach until you get good from dating apps. it’s just way harder to get started and all the rejections and bad interactions will affect your confidence. if you insist on trying i would start with dancing at a club. if you can dance with a girl then you are beginning to understand the basics of vibing and showing intention towards women. the guys who are good at this can constantly pull a girl from a club or a bar. think of some ghetto rapper dude or drug dealer, he will just start dancing with a girl with no anxiety and from there you can imagine where it could lead. dating apps are easy because the girl already said yes so you just need to keep things light and setup a date, if you can’t even do that then good luck cold approaching. Tate has no issues getting laid trust me he is 1000x more confident than anyone here even if he’s a bit quirky, and no it’s not his look. If you are comfortable and doing something you truly want (talking to a woman) she will respond to it. If you look good but you are uncertain when you try to talk to a girl she will get uncomfortable and leave. find RSD videos they show you how to do it but they use momentum meaning they just start talking to so many girls the same night that your energy shoots up then you get into this state that attracts women.

>Girl I check out at the gym regularly and have spoken to a couple times was there
>Noticed she was filming herself with a tripod today
>Also once saw her talking to a black guy
>She walks up to me and says something
>I pretend I didn’t hear or see her and walk away
Who was in the wrong here, me or her for being a walking red flag?

>>34951675
Because Tate is a fucking retard why are you watching him.

>>34953097
One is she feels self conscious around you because she finds you out of her league or something. She is attracted you just have to make her comfortable. The other isn’t really her being nervous it’s probably that she is uncomfortable because she in unsure about you or scared of you, she isn’t sure what you want from her, or she just wants you to leave but is worried how you may react.

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What's your favorite way to open when cold approaching? the very first question.
Mine:
>hi excuse me, I don't like the fact we don't know each other

>>34953258
>hi, what’s your name?
i’m autistic

>>34953110
>The problem is that interest != guaranteed relationship, they might be playing games or some other shit.
No, interest is a green flag but you have to make the right moves. Women won’t help you get into a relationship with them. They expect a mate who has enough experience to know how to seduce and secure them

>>34953660
Interest is a green flag for approaching, but it could be feigned interest just to get your attention, that's what he meant.

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>Create a list of small-to-mid-sized towns (at most 50k, and excluding suburbs of major cities) within a 90 minute radius of my location
>Sort these towns by demographics (young, white, median and below income)
>Visit one to several towns each day on the weekend
>Check the mall and every store where a young (as young as legally possible) gf might shop or work
>Walk into every restaurant to see if a girl works there, if not pretend to use the restroom and leave
>When a suitable target is acquired, ask her if she would like to date me, an older (23) man
Is this a solid strategy? For any anon who has tried (and succeeded at) something similar, where is it best to look for teen (legal) gfs? What time is most optimal to search? Probably not too early in the morning, right? Should I check small town libraries as well?

Holy shit, America is so cucked and psyoped that a 23 year old guy is afraid he might be considered old by a 18 year old woman.

>>34953735
It is something I have to take into account regardless of how little it personally bothers me. Everyone in America is so insane and neurotic about age gaps I remember in high school guys would be labelled creeps and pedophiles for dating a 10th grader as a 12th grader.

>>34953748
What an absolutely cucked and MKultra'd country. Most women are fully sexually mature by 15, some even before that.

>>34953775
I agree, though jannies always ban me when I argue with people about this so I just leave it alone and pretend to be a consenttard.

Genuinely, how do you date on a budget and with no car in your mid 20s? I can't help but despair at how cooked my situation is. It hurts a little to see and hear people younger than me being in love, while I still have no experience.

Going out to a club to enjoy some house music. First time doing this alone any tips on how to approach women?

>>34948929
>sister rings?
LOL either she really does not want men after her or she really wants to cheat on her man with you.

Either way, just think of her as another friend. Its not that hard. You just have to prioritize what you want out of her. When you go in with a mindset to just have hot sex, of course you will get that performance anxiety.

Go in there thinking you are just going to get to know her. Understand that she is playing a game. Its all women do all the time they can not help themselves. If you end up bumping uglies, then its a surprise you will have to deal with when it happens and see if you are a home wrecker or not.

Hi X
My ticket is for the Xth, if you could spare a little time for me before then, even just for a coffee and a quick chat, it would make me very happy

thoughts on this msg adressed to a 40 yo businesswoman? too formal? too needy?

>>34954080
Bit too formal and the very happy part at the end sounds needy

I have a custom ~7’ x 4’ Kohler bathtub that draws about 60% of its heating from the quad 4090 media server in the next room; when I’m outside the tub, the server constantly calls Claude for random girlfriend descriptions then feeds them to one of the 4090s for img creation showing the gf in a range of environments and sexual positions. The remaining 3x 4090s are then dedicated to img->video, so the server constantly builds up a media bank of GFE/JOI material.

I get home around 630pm and by 645 I’ll be in the tub, typically almost prone with my upper back at a 15 degree angle to look up at the 6x 4k monitors suspended above the tub, one being dedicated to a custom LLM interface (basically Chaturbate UI with some improvements and speech-to-text focus) and the other 5 dynamically selecting scenes based on a combination of my voice prompts into that LLM interface, webcam scans of my face to evaluate my emotion/proximity to climax every 15 seconds, and live sports coverage in case I wanna watch the Cleveland Browns get fucked too haha.

When I specify a desired GFE/JOI experience e.g. “redhead chess slut big eyes”, the server will scan its database for a close match to get me started, and then set about tailoring it further as I respond. Default protocol is ~10 mins active date and romantic progression then ~2.5 hrs VR goon using a waterproofed Vive, but again the structure is flexible, the point is around 1.5 hrs of that footage will be ‘stock’ and 1 hr on-demand so hopefully that ratio improves further.

I went on a date and the girl asked me for my lore and I was like "oh you want to go deep I have some deep shit" and she goes "I don't want deep lore just normal lore"

What the fuck does that mean. She didn't explain it. I'm too old for this.

>>34954569
she was trying to be cute and let you get the ball rolling on small talk and you threatened to get into heavy stuff not appropriate for a first date so she politely gave you an out

At what point do you tell a girl you have a 10+ body count and all of them were prostitutes?

>>34954634
It's not her business.

>>34953810
Impossible to know without location.
Some places you can just walk for your first date and it's considered inappropriate to NOT split the bill.

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>>34953949
>willing to date club girls
>goes there for the music
That's all there is to it. People who either don't want club girls or don't like dance e are at a major disadvantage.
Literally just dance and go with the flow.

JFL at this thread. I'm so sick of this shit. I wish I had a life outside of 4chan and didn't have to put up with you.

It's always the same fucking shit.
>broo height, face and race don't matter, just walk like you own the place and women will be all over you bro
>oh man women in clubs are desperate! haha! you'd have to try pretty hard not to get laid! (90% men btw)

I could ask in this thread
>guys I'm an average looking dude, about to try out dating apps, any tips?
And I just know what type of advice I'd get
>bro be careful to pick the right girl! too many crazy whores!
>they're too desperate bro watch out!

And with dating apps it's even more hilarious because it's not even that I could, like in a bar or club, just be ugly, project and underestimate other men's experience, and somehow not notice all the other men around me are easily getting a woman. Instead, with dating apps, the statistics are out there for everyone to see, and they're objective, factual and conclusive. And yet normies will still say the
>broo girls are too desperate!!

JFL. Can we get FUCKING REAL and first off, stop pretending the elephant in the room isn't there, and secondly and most importantly:

Which is better for geomaxxing, Thailand or Vietnam? What cities and neighborhoods in particular are better? What to watch out for to avoid a ladyboy?

I mean. I can't be the only one who's interested in discussing reality and real solutions.

>>34954715
>broo if you can dance! it's done!
>just go with the flow, enjoy yourself, and women will be all over you!
shut the fuck up you annoying retard, you don't know if he's 5'5"

>>34954775
women can tell you dont think theyre people

>>34954781
if that was true then how come that their intuition just so happens to fail with good looking guys? while other guys who are also unattractive but don't loathe women are still having a hard time?

>>34954786
you are not confident and you project an aura of disgust around women, which makes you unattractive. im willing to bet you never approach women and you act super weird whenever you talk to one


we aren't aliens, man. overwhelmingly conventionally attractive people have an edge, overwhelmingly conventionally unattractive people will have a hard time, but if you put some effort into your appearance, kick the misogyny, and actually try meet people (people, not 'girls'), you'll be surprised


larping sex tourism and throwing out misogynistic and transphobic rants will get you nowhere

>>34954791
>transphobic
what the fuck

>just be confident
i dont have a "confident" face or height

>never approach women
it is true that I never approach women. which in itself is due to the way I'm treated. do you think if I looked like a chad, i'd never approach women? i would gladly take the hints and do so. chads feel safe approaching women because they'll obviously say yes

i just don't see any hints that women are particularly attracted to me. if i did i would approach

>>34954799
they are not attracted because you are a self critical deer in the headlights drafting your next incel forum post whilst you stare at them saying nothing

>>34954634
Never

>>34954810
Society is against me. I am an enemy of the state. I am a dissident purely because of who I am. I will be arrested if I talk to women, you don't understand the life of the incel. You just don't!

>>34954780
I'm assuming he wouldn't try to go that route if he were. Why the hostility?

>>34954810
>>34954791
>>34954781
My neighbor beats his wife.
I'm still waiting for her intuition to kick in.
Any day now.
Other day she rang on the door but honestly there's no point in helping.

>>34954932
Wouldn't a man who's unsuccessful with women be more likely to ask for tips on how to approach women?

But most importantly,
>assuming he wouldn't try to go that route if he were
so short men are supposed to just not try?

>>34954810
its easy to lecture someone who you perceive as below you

in reality, what i said makes total logical sense. and yours doesn't, you did not address any of my actual points. your response amounts to:
>looks like someone got dealt very bad cards in life and isnt doing well
>i am doing well
>i am above him
>lets lecture him on how its actually his fault
pathetic

>>34954826
you're such a useless imbecile if this is your impression of me. kek. you can't even process any of the points im actually making, because you don't even have an inner dialogue or any thoughts.

>>34954941
>so short men are supposed to just not try?
That's not a serious or honest question.
>Wouldn't a man who's unsuccessful with women be more likely to ask for tips on how to approach women?
That's not a serious or honest question.
Apologies but I have to disengage.

>>34955035
>Apologies but I have to disengage.
Sounds reasonable, I perfectly understand and it's no problem at all.

I take it you'll live up to that and won't respond to me again. So I'll just say two things to wrap up our insightful conversation.

First, the
>assuming he wouldn't try to go that route if he were
is particularly vile even for regular normie advice, because it's not even that you believe everyone has it easy, or that whatever works for people with an easy life works for everyone. Instead, you seem aware of the existence of people whose life contains significant challenges, and admit that your advice won't work for them but you're not taking them into account.

I'd compare it to someone saying
>if you have no job just get one at your dads business
>if you're homeless just buy a home
and then when confronted, not even being confused that there's people he wasn't considering, but actually saying
>oh well, the poors don't count

Second, those questions that you say are not serious or honest were me trying to be patient, because I'm trying to not just call other anons retards all the time every time I get frustrated by a comment. And while you could argue that the first question is not really honest because the answer is obvious, the second was actually honest and not necessarily rhetorical.

Here's the real problem though. You're not even processing any of the content of what I'm saying. I'm pretty sure you actually have no idea what I'm saying. All you're doing is respond to stimuli. First by playing the cool normie in response to a comment about clubs, and now by disengaging from what you see as a not well adjusted and totally uncool and problematic comment. You don't even have an inner dialogue or any thoughts.

>>34954948
What are you talking about? You know nothing of the way of the incel. NOTHING!

>>34954946
it is not his fault he ended up this way, but he is the only one who can resolve the situation and blaming other people is not going to magically resolve it for him. after a point, inaction becomes willful.

i genuinely pity men who end up this way because the world was unkind to them, but it isn't an excuse to just give up and be awful on the internet whilst they waste away hating themselves and everyone around them

i have been in some terrible bitter places because very unfair things happened to me when i was little, it wasn't my 'fault' i was mentally ill and shitty to people, but it was still me who had to fix it

>>34954707
I live in a suburb in Canada. I don't know anything about the dating culture here because I've never gone a date.

I honestly feel like everything women teach me on how to date a woman never comes from a honest position.

When do you actually ask her to be a girlfriend? We've kissed as this point, gone on a few dates, met eachother's friends. Is it something you can do over a phone call or is it one of those things better in person?

Does “investing” in a girl actually work? Matched with a girl off hinge she’s fairly cute but a bit outside my physical preferences. Debating if (assuming we even hit it off) I can slim her down is that something feasible? She’s not fat, but, yeah.

>>34955719
Why are you placing emotional weight on a bunch of maybes and perhaps with absolutely no idea or hint that you can change her, don't do that.
If she was outside the preferences why are you matching in the first place.